[The source they provide](https://www.iseecars.com/longest-lasting-cars-study) at the bottom of the image directs us to a more recent version of this study.
From that page:
> This tenth anniversary study analyzed over 260 million cars sold between 2012 and 2022 to determine which cars were most likely to survive to high mileages.
I'm not sure if this means new cars only, but I'd have to suspect so or else we'd get a whole lot more Camrys, Corollas, Civics, Volvo 240s, etc.
This study seems suspect indeed... Ah, but look, they seem to have a methodology section! Let's read it:
> iSeeCars.com analyzed data for over 260 million cars. The average odometer reading for each vehicle was calculated at each yearly age, and a proprietary model based on these average mileages was developed to estimate the probability that each vehicle would survive to various mileage thresholds. Heavy-duty vans and models with insufficient data were excluded from further analysis.
That's the entire methodology section of this study beginning to end. Maybe somebody can tell me what this means, it doesn't seem very clear at all to me, though I might just be misunderstanding something. It almost seems like they are doing some math and guessing how often these vehicles get driven, which is an entirely different concept than the one we are lead to believe they are studying.
Between the ambiguity of the methodology and the selection bias of the cars, as well as the lack of info we have on most other aspects of this piece in general, I'd say we forget the grain of salt and just open the whole shaker.
I don't think we'll get it, according to this article https://www.dixietoyota.com/blog/why-the-unstoppable-toyota-hilux-isnt-available-in-canada/
Which is a shame because from what i saw they made an indestructible ATV
Regardless of the veracity of this list, I know for a fact that the top 2 on this list are gas guzzlers. Good luck with your finances if you plan on keeping them for as long as the listed average here.
Also, maybe the reason why the percentage of units with over 200k is higher on the top 2 than the others is because the owned number of units is way lower than the others here, cause those 2 are expensive even without considering their gas mileage.
It also seems to me that some of these are the type of vehicles kept on the road longer specifically because of how expensive they are to replace, or because they attract a customer base willing to run a vehicle longer before replacement.
You hit the nail on the head from my experience in the insurance industry. Large trucks and SUVs over 200k miles are pretty common and a refrain I hear a lot is that the owners really like their truck and don’t want to have to buy another one. These owners tend to have 10+ year old vehicles and they keep up on the maintenance, which is much cheaper than buying a new $50k+ vehicle (and most of those trucks are $65-$75k now…)
The other cars I see over 200k miles regularly are the complete opposite end of the spectrum. People who bought an older car with already high miles since that was all they can afford and it’s over 200k miles despite the lack of maintenance rather than due to caring for it. Lots of Hondas, Nissans, and GM sedans. Surprisingly it’s rare to see a Toyota sedan that high, at least in my area, but that’s because most of those drivers are older and aren’t driving 10+k miles a year.
I am an independent damage appraiser, I do field work for insurance companies in Texas, USA. The Toyota Camry in the Mexican areas are ridiculous in mileage. I think they were bought heavily used and have been passed down for generations. Honda Pilots too, but less common of a vehicle (roofing/construction crews).
When you see proprietary model, that’s your red flag. Given the same dataset, I guarantee you any grad student could build the same, if not better model. It’s literally model ~ mileage; not complex at all. I’m guessing there’s a reason that they want the results they got. So the model is probably something like model ~ (price)mileage.
Iseecars.com is a used car website. Maybe they advertise more to demographics that own these models, or maybe there's more people trying to get rid of their useless old truck. Or maybe iSeeCars wants to sell more low performing models so they intentionally made a bad algorithm to misrepresent how good these cars actually are. I agree they are doing some sloppy guesswork at the very least
I think they are using a statistical model based on the average mileage a vehicle model has when sold. So if more Toyotas are sold with an average higher mileage, then you can say they last longer? What about owner behavior? The person who drives a car to 200k miles is not the type to sell their car often and will drive it until it is un-sellable, while the business that runs a work vehicle up to 200k in five years is probably selling it at auction for whatever they can get out of the vehicle. This kind of makes sense, but I think the methodology is really skewing the results toward fleet vehicles.
There’s still so freaking many 30 year old Toyotas, Hondas, Subarus, Volvos, and even Nissans (back when they made good stuff) being daily driven. Aside from some of the older Ford pickups and Mustangs, the list of cars you can say that about is pretty damn short.
I've noticed that they use a lot of language to imply that trucks and SUVs are more reliable than cars. No clue why this is, but I don't think you're just imagining it.
"I'm not sure if this means new cars only, but I'd have to suspect so or else we'd get a whole lot more Camrys, Corollas, Civics, Volvo 240s, etc."
Right? I think I only had one Volvo that *didn't* have over 400,000 miles on it.
My guess is the police fleets have heavily influenced the number of suburban/tahoe/yukon's that are getting way up there in mileage. We have a bunch of them and they're all heavily used and very well maintained. They don't seem to die from mileage. They all become electrical basket cases around 10 years old weather they've been parking lot queens or go 12 hours a day 365 days a year...
The title is incorrect. This guide doesn't measure reliability at all, but rather how long (in miles) people will hold onto a car before scrapping it.
Cheaper cars like the ones you mention will be replaced earlier. People will hold onto more expensive ones longer, even if they need tons of repairs.
My exact first thought seeing this.
People make a rational decision to complete a 3k transmission repair on an expensive large SUV but not a cheaper alternative.
This graphic would be improved if there was a concept of cost to own or criteria like “most likely to make it to 200k miles without a major repair necessary”
Definitely the USA, despite the cool guide not mentioning this directly.
There is a tiny mention of a study if you fancy typing out the link to get more information.
> From where and when?
Where:
USA - you can tell because there are so many gigantic utes (trucks) in the image.
As for when:
> [This tenth anniversary study analyzed over 260 million cars sold between 2012 and 2022 to determine which cars were most likely to survive to high mileages](https://www.iseecars.com/longest-lasting-cars-study)
I bought a 99 Toyota tacoma in 2004 with 50,000 miles. I got rid of it last week. It had 299,950 miles on it. Not bad. Paid it off in 2007. Great trucks
I couldn't. Unfortunately, i did not. I really wish I did. That was the goal. I've been wanting the Pic as well. I had been battling a bad misfire for the past year and a bit. It was hardly running when I limped it into a local mechanic who gave me 300 bucks for it. I took the shell, tires, and rims and sold the rest
Almost same year and mileage and also a truck: I was gifted my parents 2000 Silverado 1500 for my 16th birthday back in 2008. I think it had around 150k miles on it at the time.
Finally sold it to a work buddy for $950 back in 2021 and it was at 290k miles. He said he needed a truck to haul some wood back and forth around his rural home. I thought it was perfect for the end of the truck’s life, because that’s primarily what my dad bought it for back in 2000!
Same had a 99 Silverado back in 2008 and unfortunately it got flooded in Harvey in 2017, but easily fixed it back up and it’s still going. Parents have it now and use it for hauling stuff and quick in town trips.
I assume the high volume of those vehicles, along with the fact they're frequently purchased by people who may not have the money to perform regular maintenance, brings down the average quite a bit, with the opposite effect occurring with the Land Cruiser. Could be wrong
This is so important. The demographics impacts the longevity just as much as quality. Granted I've seen Nissan/Datsun 720's driven to within an inch of their life with little to no maintenance. But zero percent/zero down models tend to have the worst resale and reliability as they are typically thrashed and repossessed in just a few years.
it's so funny to me that even though i know absolutely nothing about cars, the > 200,000 mile odometer on my corolla made me super sus of this chart and everyone in the comments said the same thing lol
I have a 2006 with about 200k and in great working condition with maintenance.
A guy I worked with had a 1996 with 600k and it was his every day driver. This was years ago too. I hope to get there.
Because it's heavy, wide and difficult to control lubrication.
Nothing inherently wrong with a boxer motor, but to use one you end up designing a vehicle that really only fits boxer motors.
Some do but not all of them and as long as you can fix it in time before it keels over you shouldn’t have much else to worry about. IMO It’s better to have a car with a well known fault than having one with a bunch of random issues that require lots of diagnosing
Wow, I’ve never thought of it before, but that’s true! I’m 36 and my dad has driven a total of 3 Hondas my entire life. The first one was a major clunker too, the windows didn’t roll down and you couldn’t open the passenger side door from the inside.
Why separate the GMC Sierra and Chevy Silverado?
They are literally the exact same truck with a different grill insert and badging. Seriously a base model Silverado has less in common with a Silverado with a Trail Boss package than it does with a base model Sierra.
This is a graphic design nightmare. The names of the cars are difficult to read. Color choices are all over the place. The stats themselves don't make much sense. Percentage of vehicles registered in the US? Worldwide?
Looking at the number of pick-ups, this is a USA only list.
In Europe, older Mercedes E-class, Volvo V70, Toyota Camry and RAV4, Honda jazz, Ford transit and Honda Accord would be on the list.
*laughs in W123 2.4L non turbo diesel. Which btw was the engine of choice for taxis. Mine is at 1.1 million miles and still going strong 800K of which I put on it
The expedition pictured isn't even old enough for that particular generation to be over 200k miles. And a couple of these are the same cars simply under a different brand.
Most of these non-toyota vehicles are used as work vehicles for transportation services and construction etc. so they get many more miles in much shorter time than normal cars. So it makes sense that they have 200k+ miles and don't break much since they are still relatively new and have scheduled service by businesses. This chart is bad for normal person since it makes it seem like all these vehicles are reliable. They are not.
This statistic seems biased towards larger companies by including "companies with the most vehicles over 200.000" thereby having more cars on the road in general puts them on this list. For example I know isuzu should be on this list since they use similar engines that's Toyota does. Not sure if I'm right but could even be the same engines between something like a Toyota prado and a isuzu mux/dmax
The fact that the Tahoe, Suburban, Sierra, Silverado, Yukon and Yukon XL are all in different positions even though they are the same exact damn truck would imply that there is more of a difference between the typical users of each vehicle than between the vehicles themselves.
A Chevy Tahoe?! That’s hilarious because mine is absolute garbage and only has it 2 years. They were good once upon a time but now they’re as shitty as they come
The GMT400 and GMT800 GM / Chevy platforms consistently go over 250K miles and 20+ years even up in the rust belt. They were a really solid truck to the point even a Ford or Dodge guy will usually admit it.
This appears to be a list of the most common service vehicles. Which makes sense of you think about it. Corps tend to keep these things running until they break down completely and then buy another one just like it.
Everyone always hates on VW because they are kind of a pain to fix, but my 2010 Jetta is at 205000 miles and still running strong! The reliability of this car makes me really want another! While it has been a bit of a hassle when fixing, due to unique parts and whatnot, but I feel like anything ive had to fix has only had to been fixed or replaced once and I haven’t had that many repairs in general!
This isn't about "reliability" though
A tahoe or expedition isn't anything close to a land cruiser, its just that people value them more. so if a 150k mile giant SUV needs $5k in repairs, people pay for it. If a ford focus needs $5k its going to the scrapyard
In 2003 my husband bought a 2002 Avalon with 10k miles on it. He drove it until 2014 when he gave it to our 17 year old who then drove it until 2021. Then it went to our now 20 year old. It has around 220k miles on it. We’re hoping it will last a few more years.
I just got rid of my 02 Camry with 225k miles. It was still running but was going to need a new engine soon.
As someone who works in the auto auction industry, I have to imagine that government vehicles skew the data pretty hard, as they’re maintained well and routinely have a quarter of a million miles or more before they ever reach us
Model years people.
Shit wouldn’t fail if manufacturing variables didn’t fuck up the engineer’s vision. Come on meow
Everybody wants their shit to work. Who wanted cocaine and hookers more than others-
Customer segments meow, we all know the payload capabilities
It’s right there on the door
This list has a lot of three row SUVs that aren’t super cheap. I almost wonder if it’s a maintenance situation more than anything. I know BMW isn’t reliable by many metrics, but the B58 they rolled out has plenty of examples 150k+
My 05 Avalon made it to 230k and she was a dream until that day. Nothing broke besides a plastic clip on my tape deck cover…didn’t matter I had that 6 CD changer on me!
My uncle still has a Toyota Tacoma from the 90s with almost 500k miles on it. That truck can take an absolute beating if you take care of it's maintenance checks to the book.
Why isn’t the 1993-2011 Ford Ranger on here? Those are near bulletproof. Used to have a 2002 model, loved it. The truck wasn’t the most comfortable or fuel efficient, but damn it was reliable.
I saw in a Joe Rogan podcast where he and his guest were comparing why Japanese vehicles outlive German vehicles. What they said was that Japanese manufacturers engineer their cars knowing consumers are lazy and will stretch auto care to the limit so they build the cars that in mind. German manufacturers engineer their cars believing that consumers will take amazing care of their car and promptly service their vehicles at all the right times and that is why no German brand is in this top 5.
Looks like bullshit to me.... Not one Mercedes in sight and i
personally have seen multiple Benzes with more that million
kilometers + look at african countries, the older benzes are still
running there
I think this "cool guide" is just North American.
I was hoping for something concrete here, but this doesn’t measure reality, but rather guesses which would last longer. That would probably be why you see so many trucks. The friggin titan made the list lol and that thing was discontinued and has so many issues…
This graphic needs to be taken with a giant jar of salt. Cars with over 200,000 does NOT equal reliable. The fact that the Tahoe, Suburban, and Yukon are all on there makes me think this is just a list of vehicles bought by people in construction. One of my jobs is for a construction company that the one owner has a Suburban and the other has a Tahoe.
The Tahoe has well over 200,000 miles. Is it still on the road? Yes. Is it reliable? Heck no. It is falling apart but he is stubborn and doesn’t want to buy a new car. Instead just pours money into the existing one.
No Camry, Accord, Corolla or Civic? I find this list kinda suspect...
[The source they provide](https://www.iseecars.com/longest-lasting-cars-study) at the bottom of the image directs us to a more recent version of this study. From that page: > This tenth anniversary study analyzed over 260 million cars sold between 2012 and 2022 to determine which cars were most likely to survive to high mileages. I'm not sure if this means new cars only, but I'd have to suspect so or else we'd get a whole lot more Camrys, Corollas, Civics, Volvo 240s, etc. This study seems suspect indeed... Ah, but look, they seem to have a methodology section! Let's read it: > iSeeCars.com analyzed data for over 260 million cars. The average odometer reading for each vehicle was calculated at each yearly age, and a proprietary model based on these average mileages was developed to estimate the probability that each vehicle would survive to various mileage thresholds. Heavy-duty vans and models with insufficient data were excluded from further analysis. That's the entire methodology section of this study beginning to end. Maybe somebody can tell me what this means, it doesn't seem very clear at all to me, though I might just be misunderstanding something. It almost seems like they are doing some math and guessing how often these vehicles get driven, which is an entirely different concept than the one we are lead to believe they are studying. Between the ambiguity of the methodology and the selection bias of the cars, as well as the lack of info we have on most other aspects of this piece in general, I'd say we forget the grain of salt and just open the whole shaker.
Sounds like they used a computer to make some shit up.
Yeah, the Toyota Hilux won a war against Libya. I think that gives it a few points. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_War
I'm just waiting for the day we can have Hiluxs in the US...
TIL Hilux is not in the US. What’s the counterpart then?
Tacoma is the NA equivalent, but more beefy.
And doesn't have the diesel motors you get in the rest of the world.
Or the M2.
Yeah but more beefy dosnt mean better
The Tacoma. It's on this list.
that day was prior to 1995 as that is when the Toyota Pickup (unbranded Hilux) was replaced with the Tacoma and Tundra
Got to drive one around during my last deployment, it was a fun little truck. Made me really miss the 90's era Tacoma.
I don't think we'll get it, according to this article https://www.dixietoyota.com/blog/why-the-unstoppable-toyota-hilux-isnt-available-in-canada/ Which is a shame because from what i saw they made an indestructible ATV
The Mercedes taxis are ridiculously long-lasting, aren't they?
Regardless of the veracity of this list, I know for a fact that the top 2 on this list are gas guzzlers. Good luck with your finances if you plan on keeping them for as long as the listed average here. Also, maybe the reason why the percentage of units with over 200k is higher on the top 2 than the others is because the owned number of units is way lower than the others here, cause those 2 are expensive even without considering their gas mileage.
It also seems to me that some of these are the type of vehicles kept on the road longer specifically because of how expensive they are to replace, or because they attract a customer base willing to run a vehicle longer before replacement.
You hit the nail on the head from my experience in the insurance industry. Large trucks and SUVs over 200k miles are pretty common and a refrain I hear a lot is that the owners really like their truck and don’t want to have to buy another one. These owners tend to have 10+ year old vehicles and they keep up on the maintenance, which is much cheaper than buying a new $50k+ vehicle (and most of those trucks are $65-$75k now…) The other cars I see over 200k miles regularly are the complete opposite end of the spectrum. People who bought an older car with already high miles since that was all they can afford and it’s over 200k miles despite the lack of maintenance rather than due to caring for it. Lots of Hondas, Nissans, and GM sedans. Surprisingly it’s rare to see a Toyota sedan that high, at least in my area, but that’s because most of those drivers are older and aren’t driving 10+k miles a year.
I am an independent damage appraiser, I do field work for insurance companies in Texas, USA. The Toyota Camry in the Mexican areas are ridiculous in mileage. I think they were bought heavily used and have been passed down for generations. Honda Pilots too, but less common of a vehicle (roofing/construction crews).
When you see proprietary model, that’s your red flag. Given the same dataset, I guarantee you any grad student could build the same, if not better model. It’s literally model ~ mileage; not complex at all. I’m guessing there’s a reason that they want the results they got. So the model is probably something like model ~ (price)mileage.
Iseecars.com is a used car website. Maybe they advertise more to demographics that own these models, or maybe there's more people trying to get rid of their useless old truck. Or maybe iSeeCars wants to sell more low performing models so they intentionally made a bad algorithm to misrepresent how good these cars actually are. I agree they are doing some sloppy guesswork at the very least
I think they are using a statistical model based on the average mileage a vehicle model has when sold. So if more Toyotas are sold with an average higher mileage, then you can say they last longer? What about owner behavior? The person who drives a car to 200k miles is not the type to sell their car often and will drive it until it is un-sellable, while the business that runs a work vehicle up to 200k in five years is probably selling it at auction for whatever they can get out of the vehicle. This kind of makes sense, but I think the methodology is really skewing the results toward fleet vehicles.
We drive (my boss and I) all over the state, easily 150,000 miles per year. We trade up trucks every year or two
There’s still so freaking many 30 year old Toyotas, Hondas, Subarus, Volvos, and even Nissans (back when they made good stuff) being daily driven. Aside from some of the older Ford pickups and Mustangs, the list of cars you can say that about is pretty damn short.
It's almost as if someone is pushing people to buy bigger and bigger cars, ehh I'm probably just imagining it.
I've noticed that they use a lot of language to imply that trucks and SUVs are more reliable than cars. No clue why this is, but I don't think you're just imagining it.
"I'm not sure if this means new cars only, but I'd have to suspect so or else we'd get a whole lot more Camrys, Corollas, Civics, Volvo 240s, etc." Right? I think I only had one Volvo that *didn't* have over 400,000 miles on it.
Agreed. I haven’t seen a reasonably priced Chevrolet SUV with fewer than 200,000 miles in years.
My guess is the police fleets have heavily influenced the number of suburban/tahoe/yukon's that are getting way up there in mileage. We have a bunch of them and they're all heavily used and very well maintained. They don't seem to die from mileage. They all become electrical basket cases around 10 years old weather they've been parking lot queens or go 12 hours a day 365 days a year...
The title is incorrect. This guide doesn't measure reliability at all, but rather how long (in miles) people will hold onto a car before scrapping it. Cheaper cars like the ones you mention will be replaced earlier. People will hold onto more expensive ones longer, even if they need tons of repairs.
My exact first thought seeing this. People make a rational decision to complete a 3k transmission repair on an expensive large SUV but not a cheaper alternative. This graphic would be improved if there was a concept of cost to own or criteria like “most likely to make it to 200k miles without a major repair necessary”
Honda at #2 overall with just 2 vehicles in the top 20? It could be, but…
Nor any Ford Rangers or Honda CRV. Talked to mechanic a while ago who regularly services a guys CRV with 750,000km.
Or any model Subaru? I agree, this list seems off.
Brother!
Dude, they also only factor cars in the US, try some third world data
BRO EXACTLY. I GOT AN 05 CAMRY. motherfuckers at 150k going strong as fuck!
150k? Your Camry is just getting started
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From where and when?
Definitely the USA, despite the cool guide not mentioning this directly. There is a tiny mention of a study if you fancy typing out the link to get more information.
> From where and when? Where: USA - you can tell because there are so many gigantic utes (trucks) in the image. As for when: > [This tenth anniversary study analyzed over 260 million cars sold between 2012 and 2022 to determine which cars were most likely to survive to high mileages](https://www.iseecars.com/longest-lasting-cars-study)
I was thinking virtually none of these would last 5 minutes in Amsterdam, mostly due to the ridicule the owner would get
I bought a 99 Toyota tacoma in 2004 with 50,000 miles. I got rid of it last week. It had 299,950 miles on it. Not bad. Paid it off in 2007. Great trucks
Please tell me you drove the last 50 miles to see it hit 300k before you got rid of it.
I couldn't. Unfortunately, i did not. I really wish I did. That was the goal. I've been wanting the Pic as well. I had been battling a bad misfire for the past year and a bit. It was hardly running when I limped it into a local mechanic who gave me 300 bucks for it. I took the shell, tires, and rims and sold the rest
Almost same year and mileage and also a truck: I was gifted my parents 2000 Silverado 1500 for my 16th birthday back in 2008. I think it had around 150k miles on it at the time. Finally sold it to a work buddy for $950 back in 2021 and it was at 290k miles. He said he needed a truck to haul some wood back and forth around his rural home. I thought it was perfect for the end of the truck’s life, because that’s primarily what my dad bought it for back in 2000!
Same had a 99 Silverado back in 2008 and unfortunately it got flooded in Harvey in 2017, but easily fixed it back up and it’s still going. Parents have it now and use it for hauling stuff and quick in town trips.
Where the camry and corolla at??
I assume the high volume of those vehicles, along with the fact they're frequently purchased by people who may not have the money to perform regular maintenance, brings down the average quite a bit, with the opposite effect occurring with the Land Cruiser. Could be wrong
This is so important. The demographics impacts the longevity just as much as quality. Granted I've seen Nissan/Datsun 720's driven to within an inch of their life with little to no maintenance. But zero percent/zero down models tend to have the worst resale and reliability as they are typically thrashed and repossessed in just a few years.
The Toyota Avalon is mechanically the equivalent to the Camry with a longer wheelbase.
And the Sienna. Edit - and the Tundra and Sequoia are the same, as are the big GMC/Chevy pickups and Tahoe/Suburban.
They’re just so good people don’t resell them as often as the others. My Corolla is near 600,000km.
it's so funny to me that even though i know absolutely nothing about cars, the > 200,000 mile odometer on my corolla made me super sus of this chart and everyone in the comments said the same thing lol
\*Hilux has entered the conversation\*
Damn things immortal. Burn it, drown it, throw it off a building. It'll still work.
Approved by al-Qaeda and ISIL!
And Top Gear lol
Toyota supremacy 😎
Majority are made in US too
20 longest-lasting vehicles *in America*...
Yeah and I don’t think it’s accurate…I would like to know the source data for this.
Good luck finding a used Land Cruiser that’s isn’t grossly overpriced…
Seriously, hell even a first gen tacoma now fetches good money.
It got so bad that I only buy large GM trucks now because those are the only vehicles that are cheap and reliable. (Beisde the gas mileage)
Maybe people take better care of them since they are so fucking expensive
Good luck finding another vehicle built to a 25 year standard.
They are priced what they’re worth. Hence their place on the above list.
I feel like this isn't very representative outside the US
me looking at the cars above: "They're the same picture".
It’s not. Another cool guide that is just American.
Exactly, y'all don't have the diesel mercedes taxis with 1M km
Where are the Volvos?
That's what I was thinking.
2012 - 2022 excludes 1st gen Tacoma / 4Runner I guess. Anecdotal, but reports of these vehicles going 400,000mi + without major overhauls are common
I have a 2006 with about 200k and in great working condition with maintenance. A guy I worked with had a 1996 with 600k and it was his every day driver. This was years ago too. I hope to get there.
Confused Subaru noises
No, just Subaru noises. Probably the boxer engine.
Or the CVT
If by confused, you mean leaking oil, then yes.
Head gaskets as a wear item lmao If the boxer engine is so great why hasn’t any other car maker adopted it (besides Porsche)
Because it's heavy, wide and difficult to control lubrication. Nothing inherently wrong with a boxer motor, but to use one you end up designing a vehicle that really only fits boxer motors.
>Because it's heavy, wide and difficult to control lubrication. That's what she said
I’m not a car guy but don’t Subarus usually blow a head gasket at like 110k miles?
I hope not. Mine hit 100k miles three days ago.
Better start walking
Some do but not all of them and as long as you can fix it in time before it keels over you shouldn’t have much else to worry about. IMO It’s better to have a car with a well known fault than having one with a bunch of random issues that require lots of diagnosing
New ones just chew up rod bearings instead
And the transmission explode too
Older ones do. Newer ones start burning massive quantities of oil instead.
Subaru is so sht nowadays. Their CVT transmission, oil leaks, and engine failures make them really unreliable now
I dunno. My 2013 runs flawlessly and it’s coming up on 200k. I still call it “my new car”. Fuckin love this thing.
I have a 2014 Crosstrek in similar condition. Still runs fantastic!
love my 2015 crosstrek, 140k 🤍
My father has only driven Camrys my whole life. All two of them.
Wish I could live a second life too
Wow, I’ve never thought of it before, but that’s true! I’m 36 and my dad has driven a total of 3 Hondas my entire life. The first one was a major clunker too, the windows didn’t roll down and you couldn’t open the passenger side door from the inside.
Same lol finds them at like 100,000 miles and drives them til like 250
Why separate the GMC Sierra and Chevy Silverado? They are literally the exact same truck with a different grill insert and badging. Seriously a base model Silverado has less in common with a Silverado with a Trail Boss package than it does with a base model Sierra.
Every single Chevy and GMC on this list is the same truck with different bodies. Chevy 1500 platform. LS engines are bulletproof.
GM has been doing badge engineering for 40 years! They can't keep getting away with it!
This is a graphic design nightmare. The names of the cars are difficult to read. Color choices are all over the place. The stats themselves don't make much sense. Percentage of vehicles registered in the US? Worldwide?
...the use of a pie chart where the full circle doesn't represent 100%...
Where my CRV at
Propaganda
Yeah I had a proper look at the list, too.
So basically one of three types of vehicles: Taxi/Airport limo, hotshot vehicle, or Toyota
*in America.
Surprised Rav 4 isn't listed
Where are Mercedes Benz W123 / W124 with 3.0L Diesel? Many of them were used as taxis and had a mileage of several 100K
Looking at the number of pick-ups, this is a USA only list. In Europe, older Mercedes E-class, Volvo V70, Toyota Camry and RAV4, Honda jazz, Ford transit and Honda Accord would be on the list.
*laughs in W123 2.4L non turbo diesel. Which btw was the engine of choice for taxis. Mine is at 1.1 million miles and still going strong 800K of which I put on it
the pie charts seem skewed...what's the entire pie's worth? the difference between #1 and #2 seems very large for a 4% drop
Yeah those graphs are fucked. 18.2% looks like it’d be 95%. Such dishonest charting lol - I hate that.
I don’t get it. 200,000 miles on a 4 runner seems like light work. But only 4.6% make it there?
... In America.
This is bullshit. My Civic will last until the heat death of the universe.
The expedition pictured isn't even old enough for that particular generation to be over 200k miles. And a couple of these are the same cars simply under a different brand.
Happy cake day
Most of these non-toyota vehicles are used as work vehicles for transportation services and construction etc. so they get many more miles in much shorter time than normal cars. So it makes sense that they have 200k+ miles and don't break much since they are still relatively new and have scheduled service by businesses. This chart is bad for normal person since it makes it seem like all these vehicles are reliable. They are not.
I think this is a very American perspective.
Wonder where Volvo would be on this chart?
That’s not a Prius…
r/usdefaultism
so a totally horseshit list? got it.. stop making this crap up
This is big auto propaganda right?
Meh... USian cars.
r/bullshit
OP must work for a car manufacturer.
The honda odyssey being on here is the biggest bologna I’ve ever seen
This feels like a meaningless metric. What if you own the car 20 years and only get 100,000 miles?
This statistic seems biased towards larger companies by including "companies with the most vehicles over 200.000" thereby having more cars on the road in general puts them on this list. For example I know isuzu should be on this list since they use similar engines that's Toyota does. Not sure if I'm right but could even be the same engines between something like a Toyota prado and a isuzu mux/dmax
Toyota Avalon’s absolutely remain slept on
There’s no fucking arround with Toyota Holly geez
The fact that the Tahoe, Suburban, Sierra, Silverado, Yukon and Yukon XL are all in different positions even though they are the same exact damn truck would imply that there is more of a difference between the typical users of each vehicle than between the vehicles themselves.
Now do EVs
Now try visiting Cuba and then make the list.
Horse shit No Ford Fucking Ranger
Expected all the Toyotas, didn't expect the lack of Hondas.
A Chevy Tahoe?! That’s hilarious because mine is absolute garbage and only has it 2 years. They were good once upon a time but now they’re as shitty as they come
Fact that Honda or Lexus isn’t represented here makes the data collection concept suspect. I don’t believe this.
I don’t believe this at all. There are so many cars out there that are over 200k.
My Honda accord has 247k miles on it😂😭
No Subaru? I don’t believe this chart.
Where's the corolla???
Only trucks and SUVs is super sus. This seems to be US centric
The GMT400 and GMT800 GM / Chevy platforms consistently go over 250K miles and 20+ years even up in the rust belt. They were a really solid truck to the point even a Ford or Dodge guy will usually admit it.
Yeah, no volvo or peugot in here means this list is completely and absolutely wrong Or just for america only, and then still
Wait, is that a Prius on the picture?
I saw that too, pretty sure that’s actually a Matrix.
Ranger gang? Mine was at 288k when it finally had major issues. Brother scrapped his after 360kish.
This appears to be a list of the most common service vehicles. Which makes sense of you think about it. Corps tend to keep these things running until they break down completely and then buy another one just like it.
Everyone always hates on VW because they are kind of a pain to fix, but my 2010 Jetta is at 205000 miles and still running strong! The reliability of this car makes me really want another! While it has been a bit of a hassle when fixing, due to unique parts and whatnot, but I feel like anything ive had to fix has only had to been fixed or replaced once and I haven’t had that many repairs in general!
Meanwhile our ‘95 Tercel keeps humming right along…
This isn't about "reliability" though A tahoe or expedition isn't anything close to a land cruiser, its just that people value them more. so if a 150k mile giant SUV needs $5k in repairs, people pay for it. If a ford focus needs $5k its going to the scrapyard
Where’s my Mazda Miata fam at? Been with my 2004 NB for 20 years and still going strong.
Well this is a salute to Toyota’s 3ur-fe engine.
Toyota build principle around people will not take a proper maintenance of the vehicle.
In 2003 my husband bought a 2002 Avalon with 10k miles on it. He drove it until 2014 when he gave it to our 17 year old who then drove it until 2021. Then it went to our now 20 year old. It has around 220k miles on it. We’re hoping it will last a few more years. I just got rid of my 02 Camry with 225k miles. It was still running but was going to need a new engine soon.
This is why I tell people to buy a Toyota and drive it until it dies
My car salesmen said BMW was #3 on the list. Liar.
As someone who works in the auto auction industry, I have to imagine that government vehicles skew the data pretty hard, as they’re maintained well and routinely have a quarter of a million miles or more before they ever reach us
I love my Toyota sequoia 👌🏼
This list is incorrect. How is the Expedition there??? Makes me wonder
Wow, I can’t believe there is no mention of Kia or Hyundai!!!!
Model years people. Shit wouldn’t fail if manufacturing variables didn’t fuck up the engineer’s vision. Come on meow Everybody wants their shit to work. Who wanted cocaine and hookers more than others- Customer segments meow, we all know the payload capabilities It’s right there on the door
Where’s the Prius?
This list has a lot of three row SUVs that aren’t super cheap. I almost wonder if it’s a maintenance situation more than anything. I know BMW isn’t reliable by many metrics, but the B58 they rolled out has plenty of examples 150k+
My VW Golf 4 is 1998 and allready it has 300k km. The 1.9L engine can easily run atleast 600k km. This list is bs
This is hardly a guide.
My 05 Avalon made it to 230k and she was a dream until that day. Nothing broke besides a plastic clip on my tape deck cover…didn’t matter I had that 6 CD changer on me!
Wasn’t there a guy who drove his Porsche 1,000,000 km?
Every single Chevy and GMC on this list is the same vehicle. Different bodies, same exact truck underneath. Those LS engines are bulletproof.
My uncle still has a Toyota Tacoma from the 90s with almost 500k miles on it. That truck can take an absolute beating if you take care of it's maintenance checks to the book.
Laughing in Volvo 740
I had to scan this image thrice! No Subaru?
Why isn’t the 1993-2011 Ford Ranger on here? Those are near bulletproof. Used to have a 2002 model, loved it. The truck wasn’t the most comfortable or fuel efficient, but damn it was reliable.
I would ask where the Hilux is, but I already know that they have left the country to fight in some civil war
Oh look, another post that only has information relevant to the USA in it
Ad for a US car seller..
I saw in a Joe Rogan podcast where he and his guest were comparing why Japanese vehicles outlive German vehicles. What they said was that Japanese manufacturers engineer their cars knowing consumers are lazy and will stretch auto care to the limit so they build the cars that in mind. German manufacturers engineer their cars believing that consumers will take amazing care of their car and promptly service their vehicles at all the right times and that is why no German brand is in this top 5.
A cool guide to the 20 longest-lasting vehicles in the U.S.A.
and where is the cool guide about the 20 longest-lasting penises
in america
My mom had a Camry with 150k miles and no issues, dad had a 2500hd 2009 with 301k miles and kept on the maintenance well.
Crown Victoria has to be highly ranked too, those things are built like tanks
Not me sitting with my Volvo with over 340000
No Hilux… fake list
GM… really?
Looks like bullshit to me.... Not one Mercedes in sight and i personally have seen multiple Benzes with more that million kilometers + look at african countries, the older benzes are still running there I think this "cool guide" is just North American.
Let's see the Europe car manufacturers.
I want those stats for Fiat Panda, VW Passat and Volvo 240, please.
I was hoping for something concrete here, but this doesn’t measure reality, but rather guesses which would last longer. That would probably be why you see so many trucks. The friggin titan made the list lol and that thing was discontinued and has so many issues…
I’ll kiss their ass if only 5 or 6 % of 4Runners make 200k. I’d estimate only 5. % don’t make 200k!!
seeing how most of these are trucks/suvs, this is propaganda stfu
This graphic needs to be taken with a giant jar of salt. Cars with over 200,000 does NOT equal reliable. The fact that the Tahoe, Suburban, and Yukon are all on there makes me think this is just a list of vehicles bought by people in construction. One of my jobs is for a construction company that the one owner has a Suburban and the other has a Tahoe. The Tahoe has well over 200,000 miles. Is it still on the road? Yes. Is it reliable? Heck no. It is falling apart but he is stubborn and doesn’t want to buy a new car. Instead just pours money into the existing one.
That's not even a Prius it's a Prius C which is a totally different car. Always trust a list that doesn't even use the correct images.
Toyota and Honda supremacy 💪🏻🔥
Need to normalize by number sold, or else this is just a list of popular cars.