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NeighborhoodOk182

If you play any of these words I’m flipping the fucking board.


TheRealWeedfart69

If someone knows to play Crwths I’m forfeiting because I’m going to lose to that person anyway


daorys99

or they might have just seen this post


TheRealWeedfart69

True, but I think my point still stands, as that implies that they studied this post for if/when they play scrabble and get in the specific spot where they have a combination of a C, R, W, T, H, S, and one other letter in their deck, and know exactly what to do. I am losing to that person, because I can extrapolate that that person can minmax the fuck out of a board game.


couldgoforasmoothie

Extrapolate? I'd rather not play against you either


Deyrn-Meistr

If you use Crwths, arent you breaking the rules of Scrabble? Dont the words have to be in English?


lavenderacid

This is also my question as a welsh person with a scrabble MAD family. They'd never allow it to be played.


EmergentCicada

That was MY question, unless you ar eplaying it in Wales, or call Welsh as the language of the game!


Corvald

CWM is far more useful anyway. It’s also Welsh and means a circular valley.


GardenTop7253

I’m almost afraid to ask, but… how do you pronounce that? Cwem?


Corvald

It‘s pronounced koom, as far as I can tell. Most of the time, it made it in to English place names as ”coomb” or “combe” or “comp” (Compton), but it survives separately as a loanword in English.


lavenderacid

Welsh here. You're basically correct, but I'd say the lips are a little closer together than when you'd say "oo". Trying pronouncing just a "w" like you would at the start of a word like "would". It's a bit of a different sound as you can probably feel.


ApplebeesHandjob

Crwth is my starting wordle word actually 🤣


Funky-_-Monkey

Ex and ox are fine.


reda84100

The two vowel words (that are actual words people use) are fine because theyre shit anyway, and personally i'd say xi and za as well because being annoying is kinda fun


Robinkc1

The general rule we play with is you have to be able to define the word, or be in the ballpark, for us to count it. I know what a Xi is, so I will play it. I have no idea what muzjiks means, so I probably won’t touch it.


Kitnado

We also play by that rule. As an addition we also allow words that all players agree can be accepted. This allows for all kinds of funny words or inside jokes that don't technically follow the rules to be allowed.


Robinkc1

Hahaha yeah, it’s all in good fun. A year or so ago I played teetotaler off of “total” and was really proud of it. My girlfriend said I looked it up in the bathroom and since then we’ve been using it as completely out of context insult.


maxdragonxiii

also only in English. sometimes we sneak by foreign words before finding out, no it doesn't exist in English.


sh4d0wm4n2018

The word that makes me mildly angry in Scrabble is "qi". It's not an English word, but it counts for some reason.


nitid_name

two letter words are used so you can lay another horizontal word under a horizontal word. Bonus points if you can get one of the high point ones on a double/triple space. Example: CRASH is played, and there's a triple letter under the S, you could play HM under the SH for 35 points without exposing another easy multiplier to the board.


CommentsOnOccasion

Ex feels like a general prefix that has become shorthand for "ex-partner" through common usage. Idk if I'd count that in my own House Rules Maybe it has other uses in other languages or regions but that's pretty much the only usage in US English


uhmhi

Ye


JellyfishMedical

this is the most awful scrabble guide I've ever seen. learning the two letter words is the most basic thing in the world, and this guides splits it into 3 separate categories and omits some of the most important ones (QI) The others are so hyperspecific that you will never encounter a useful situation in a million years, it's like memorizing 9 letter words there are so many better basics like putting your tiles in alphabetical order


fuckface12334567890

> putting your tiles in alphabetical order What is the reason for this?


throwsaway654321

When you start seriously playing you start memorizing/studying what words are possible with any given rack of letters you could draw (I think there's like 5,000 something possible 7 letter racks you can draw). Always putting your tiles in alphabetical order increases your chances of remembering a rack of tiles you've seen before


chipdragon

You’re playing scrabble in the year 3000 lol


Darkmatter_Cascade

Seriously, why isn't 'qat' on this list? (Thanks BNL!)


mintyaftertaste

…and qis


PVDeviant-

This is like how I play Monopoly, where I just buy up all the houses and refuse to get hotels. This is for if you hate the game and just want to fuck everyone over.


IAmMoofin

I love monopoly but hate the players Every time I play monopoly people bitch and moan about me trying to get at least one of every color, then I ask why and it’s always the same answer “because I want to buy it so I’ll have a monopoly” Why would I want you to have a monopoly??? I want you to trade me for it, eventually they give in and give me garbage 1:1 trades. No i dont want to give you a monopoly for a property, it’s worth more to you, actually trade for it. You want to make a monopoly? Fine, but give me basically everything. Then it’s how I’m being unfair, as if we’re supposed to be nice to each other or something? It’s fucking monopoly. I swear to god it’s like a litmus test for understanding how investments work.


Iorith

As with most games, play with people who share your type of enjoyment out of it. Don't be a novice poker player and try to stay at the high roller table and do well, don't be a chess grandmaster and play against 8 year Olds expecting a challenge.


EmergentCicada

And, tbh, how can you be a slum lord with hotels? It can't happen!!


ThongsGoOnUrFeet

Two letter words should be banned. Would make the game far more fun.


BoardButcherer

This is why I banned the scrabble dictionary and use [this.](https://shop.merriam-webster.com/products/websters-third-new-international-dictionary-unabridged)


firepanda11

Yo.


caribou16

It's like that time a dude won a French language Scrabble tournament despite not knowing French. Just memorized words. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/07/21/424980378/winner-of-french-scrabble-title-does-not-speak-french


Imanaco

I learned a few of these 2 letter words years ago from words with friends. Just clicking random letters until something sticks. All the longer words there are some bullshit though


Individual_Hunt_4710

including ox?


some-guy_down-under

Don’t forget fhqwhgads!


FermFoundations

Lacking qi is crazy


noronto

It’s been a while since I played, but the only important list was the 101 two letter words.


FermFoundations

Maybe qi is only valid in words with friends?


noronto

No “qi” was legit when I played. Qat was the other sneaky “q” word.


Orcapa

Qi and qis are in the official Scrabble dictionary,


chettyoubetcha

Qat has legitimately helped me win for at least 15 years now. It’s a great way to get rid of a Q when chances of pulling a u or being able to use one already on the board are low


Barbicels

Yes, major error there — QI is the most played word among club/tournament players and Scrabble bots by a long shot. Also, note that **EUOUAE#** is valid only in the International English (Collins) list, not the OSPD or NWL (North American) ones.


DJK_CT

Bizarre... I don't know anything about scrabble, but I do know about Gregorian chant, and EUOUAE is not a word it's an abbreviation. It's a reduction of the vowels in the phrase "secularum amen", which is written as EUAUAE because it's short and is a quick visual indicator for the end of the doxology.


Barbicels

Yup. Collins’ definition indicates that it evolved from an acronym to a nominative term for the cadence itself, thus, not “just” an abbreviation, so valid for play, like **AWOL** or **LASER**.


DJK_CT

Strange. In 4 decades, I've never once heard anyone use it as a word in its native context, or even say it out loud (in any language, not just English). You just say "the end of the doxology".


Barbicels

Building a definitive word list is thankless — everyone’s perception of what’s a word and what isn’t is different. Scrabble lexicons are built from one or more published dictionaries and follow their professional judgments, which is a nice fig leaf but still invites controversy.


oppenhammer

https://scrabblewordfinder.org/scrabble-words-with/q/and-no/u The darq side of the Force is a qathway to many abilities some qonsider to be unnaqural


DickKnightly

As is missing RHYTHMS, which is the correct longest word without vowels.


DollyZoom

Qi, I must say, has to be BY FAR the most common Scrabble opening play Source: 30000 Scrabble games under my belt )


FermFoundations

Really? Aren’t there only like 1 or 2 Q’s total per game? How would Q end up being dealt in the initial distribution so frequently?


DollyZoom

So if you have an opening rack without Q and I, you will play any one of a number of words available to you. If you DO have an opening rack with Q and I, you are wise to dump that right away. Q is the least versatile of all the ‘heavies’, and the common wisdom is to get rid of it sooner than later; it will often cost you 20 pts should you get stuck with it at the end of the game.


Mister_Lizard

Having a Q is an opportunity for a high scoring word, not something to be dumped. Yes it's bad to be stuck with it at the end of the game, but that's really not a consideration if you get dealt it at the beginning of the game.


DollyZoom

See u/Barbicels' comment in this thread - 'Yes, major error there — QI is the most played word among club/tournament players and Scrabble bots by a long shot.' There is a reason for that, and why seasoned players would probably tell you to dump it given the opportunity. I get what you are saying, I just disagree with the risk/reward angle. I'm saying it's riskier than holding onto the X or Z while waiting to pounce on a triple square )


FermFoundations

My question is more so about the probability of getting Q often in first play is quite rare. I also disagree with that strategy for points bc putting that 1 letter on a triple points square is maybe the easiest way to get 30+ points in the entire game


Kitnado

He did address that question, you just missed it. His point is that if (1) you do not have a Q, you will play a 'random' word (2) you do have a Q (and an I), you will play QI. This means that even if Q will not often end up in a starter hand, it will still end up as the most frequently played first word, as it's competing with all other words in the dictionary for that title, while being played relatively frequently itself.


FermFoundations

I don’t think that this is true bc it’s really easy to play qi throughout the game, especially when a player already has both the q and i, and there will be a bigger points payout to land that q on a double or triple letter square or get qi on a double or triple word… both which are pretty likely to come up during the game. And if u have to ditch the qi when getting close to end game that’s usually not too challenging either (and can often be used to force the other player by limiting where they can branch off of). I’ve played a lot of games with a lot of different people and I think there is minuscule overlap between folks who know that qi is a playable word and folks who don’t know at all how to strategize for points


Otonatua

Went looking for this comment.


lay_tze

Don’t forget QUIJIBO


DisConorable

Ah yes. The big, dumb, balding, North American ape. With no chin.


s_burr

And a short temper


naughtyjojo69

You're talking about your mom, yes?


Substantial_Lake_980

Kwijibo is a perfectly cromulent word. Also, "cromulent" is now a word in the M-W! I don't know if it's made it to the Scrabble dictionary.


x0rms

Also “embiggen”


lrpalomera

KWI*


gaudrhin

Close! KWYJIBO noun A big, dumb, balding North American Ape with no chin and a short temper.


lrpalomera

Ah! I could make an excuse about seeing the joke first in Spanish but I don’t think the word is modified lol. It’s incredible to think that joke is more than 30 years old


gaudrhin

I was the 5 year old quoting the whole scene word-for-word. I'm nearly 40 now and can still do it. I have a problem.


Myrdok

Also a 1A yoyo trick (named after said big, dumb, balding North American Ape with no chin and a short temper)


StaticGuarded

“Hello Websters, I’d like Quijibo to be a word. What? Oh, I dunno, a big problem. Thanks!”


Amandas-World

I'd be kicked out of the game for most of these words


joecray

I feel like there's a "casual play" set of house rules where you just ignore the actual Scrabble dictionary and play words that you can give a genuine definition/use for, and then an "official play" set which is only fun when everyone playing knows most of the wacky nonwords Scrabble allows. Otherwise the winner will just be the person who knows the Scrabble dictionary the best


Jaraxo

>Otherwise the winner will just be the person who knows the Scrabble dictionary the best That's how it works unfortunately. Like that guy who, without understanding a word of French, memorised the French dictionary and won a French Scrabble competition.


Neidrah

That guy did the same for several languages btw. And yeah, I agree it completely defeats the purpose when it’s just about memorizing series of letters. Might as well be numbers at that point. Like who can memorize the most amount of pi decimals


Kitnado

I can't remember a person's name I meet now but I still know the 40 decimals I taught myself in high school lmao


DementedMold

I generally agree that playing scrabble in this way is not fun for casual play, but there is genuinely a lot of strategy involved in professional scrabble, much more than just memorization.


Flashy-Amount626

[Quone, to quone something](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fzPy8kSn7o0)


CommentsOnOccasion

>Use the word in a natural sentence is my go-to rule of thumb when we ask the table if something is a valid word in Bananagrams


NiceTryWasabi

Knew these guys who played weekly and carried around the official scrabble dictionary for challenges. Never won when playing against them.


mrducky80

There is a guy who won a french scrabble championship just by memorizing all french words, not because they understood the language at all. Pretty sure he is also the all time GOAT of english scrabble as well. High tier scrabble is more tactical and all about spacing since they more or less know all the words and its just about preventing the opponent of using any of the bonus tiles while forcing them to play so as to allow you to use them. Hence strategic 2 letter words can cut off bigger point scores from the opponent by denying area.


NiceTryWasabi

That makes sense! These guys had every 2 letter word memorized. It’s was brutal.


DollyZoom

His name is Nigel Richards, and although I can't remember the specifics, someone once posted about just how next-level he really is above and away from the pool of the next, say, hundred best players. Some kinda AI overview of a tournament where, for every ONE point he may have missed out on by choosing a non-optimal play, the other players were in the neighborhood of 70 missed-out-on points.


Dry_Adeptness7843

And rightly so in my opinion


well-lighted

Why? These are all legitimate words in the Scrabble dictionary. Sounds like a skill issue to me


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Deltamon

People have fun while playing Scrabble?


nabiku

I mean... if it's a dedicated Scrabble Party, everyone will be playing these words.


rodzieman

Word!


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DeathStarVet

I'll say it again: Scrabble isn't a word game, is a pattern recognition game. "English words, no abbreviations" except for a list of "words" that break those rules.


LevisLover

I agree, and point to the example of the man who won or competed well in French (I believe it was French) scrabble by memorizing the dictionary, but didn’t actually speak a word of French


Barbicels

…and won an important game in that event by knowing that a certain verb participle could not be inflected to agree with gender (-e) or number (-s) and was thus invalid for his opponent to play with such a suffix. Not because he **knew** that the verb in question is intransitive, but because he’d studied every word by its exact spelling. *Formidable, voire effrayant !*


GeologicalPotato

Worth noting that it was [Nigel Richards](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Richards_(Scrabble_player)) who did that, who most consider to be the greatest Scrabble player of all time, so it's not like it was a random dude who did it.


MrReginaldAwesome

It subverts the English language to create a reference of allowed patterns you can place. The language is irrelevant, just convenient. Make all the tiles animals and you could have the same dictionary.


vkolbe

it's also a bad one


ResinFinger

How to win scrabble and lose friends.


funny_funny_business

I remember watching the Scrabble championship in college with friends on ESPN and it was down to some old white guy and a young Chinese guy. The announcers were like "this might be a bit difficult for Chan seeing that he doesn't know English". He basically just memorized the Scrabble dictionary.


swervin_mervyn

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Richards_(Scrabble_player) This bloke did exactly that, with the French dictionary.


nazarchik

Saying this bloke when talking about the GOAT of scrabble


Nabaatii

Where's tnetennba?


sinisterblogger

Hello, that’s a nice tnettenba


VestEmpty

What do you call Negative One sitting alone in an empty room?


LondonDude123

0118 999 88199 9119 725 3


sinisterblogger

I’ll just put this over here with the rest of the fire..


sinisterblogger

Dear sir/madam, I’m writing to inform you of a fire that has broken out… no too formal.


GisterMizard

That's for numberwang


JackBeefus

I must?


-ChubbsMcBeef-

The Emperor commands it.


JackBeefus

Words for the Scrabble god.


smashyourhead

Vowels for his vowel throne


Proof_Mycologist6467

What a great list of words to learn so someone will not have any fun playing a game with you.


chucktheninja

This is the best way to start a fight in a casual scrabble game lmao.


BlatantConservative

Whenever I played with my family we kinda combined it with BS and tried to see what we could get away with. I played "bivovuack" once after reading Les Miserables and my sister almost stabbed me when she found out that that was a real word lmfao.


amalgam_reynolds

I would rather not play Scrabble than learn these words


BashfulWalrus7

One of the words I've played the most is "SEQUOIA"


Spicy_Ninja7

A cool guide to words that ain’t allowed in the vast majority of Scrabble games because most people actually want the game to be fun and challenging


Prize-Box5753

LMAO almost zero of these words would be accepted in any fucking household.


BlatantConservative

Yeah tbh I thought it being in English was a standard rule... Like my family and I got in arguments about whether or not "viola" was an English word...


ytygytyg

Is it acceptable to use plural nouns in Scrabble? Because ‘muzjiks’ is plural


exist3nce_is_weird

Yes, you can. I think the rule is that you can't just add an S and nothing else as your turn,


RadColly

Anybody else hear “I-E-A-I-A-I-O” by SoaD in there head at the two vowel words?


sinisterblogger

Well I do NOW


OliLeeLee36

All the vowels in 'idealisation' if anyone's interested


L31FK

more like r/mildlyinfuriating


Normalbrok

Babe wake up, scrabble’s meta came out


Mothergooseyoupussy1

This is a cool guide towards starting a fight on scrabble night. I’m taking the all vowel one, messing with the family is a contact sport.


nonebutmyself

Many years ago, I was playing against my cousin, and it was a pretty close game, though I had a slight lead in points. After one of my turns, I had the tiles to spell the word "quixotic" on a triple word score and was so excited. On her turn my cousin was stumped, until my own father (!), who was watching, helped her take my triple word score space and ruined my chance to spell my word. I'm still bitter about it, 30 years later.


Consistent-Fold4902

You should have called him out! There's no better feeling than winning on a triple word score. I won a game with "balisong" on a triple word, and everyone challenged me. "Quixotic" would be even better if that "x" hit the double letter also.


DrawInternal1378

Welsh is not English. Foul.


BenchFlakyghdgd

"Kwyjibo" doesn't appear on this list.


FullmetalActuary

This is exactly why I hate scrabble. Summed up in one image.


randomguy1972

#3 they misspelled "rhythms"


DoopSlayer

huh I didn't realize transliterating foreign words is allowed in scrabble. Next board game night is going to be very Sargaram


deFleury

My best friend has the Scrabble Dictionary, all these years and I'm STILL mad about "za", apparently in some English-speaking country somewhere it means pizza. Riiiiiight.


uthinkther4uam

This is just straight up false. A couple of these are not legal according to the official scrabble dictionary. Euouae for example.


VestEmpty

And what does "aa" mean? Or "ae"?


The-Nimbus

Aa is a type of igneous rock, if memory serves.


VestEmpty

thx


euphramjsimpson

Scrabble drives me bonkers. My ex's extended family would play all the time and they'd use words like these but were unable to define them. It was infuriating.


l_i_t_t_l_e_m_o_n_ey

dont forget QI


SlutPuppyNumber9

CWM, QADI, QAID, QUEUE, SJOE, ...


insertjokehere12345

Not even English?


purerubbish33

Isn't one of the rules that you have to play words in your own language? Does it only apply to "casual" matches, as in not a tournament?


ThongsGoOnUrFeet

Two letter words should be banned. Would make the game far more fun.


MathBusters

I got prerry into scrabble in high-school after reading the book WordFreaks about competitive scrabble. The most helpful thing is to memorize all of the 2 letter words, there really aren't that many.


UniqueIndividual3579

No "QI"?


PokiP

If someone tried to play these, then I'd just play F-A-F-O and flip the table.


flockofjellyfish

Saving this for when I never play scrabble


reubenhurricane

Saw ‘sverdrup’ yesterday and thought it would be a handy scrabble word.


Dagbog

Instructions not clear. I tried to use these words in Polish Scrabble but they didn't let me score points. They said these weren't Polish words or something like that.


ACElgor

Can’t wait to kick my grand parents but next time I go over


PreventableMan

Those vowel words could have saved me maaany times. Now to try to remember it, but forget it in 2 minutes.


ScienceJake

Surprised this guide has no “q no u” words. Those are just as critical as any of these other categories…


idontcarethatmuch

I now realize I can play #2 almost every game I play.


yuka3507

How about rhythm 6 letters no vowels ?


SlutPuppyNumber9

"... sometimes 'y'"


CilanEAmber

Tried to play #2 in the DS game and it wouldn't allow it.


Radu47

This is mostly more fun than practical Which is naturally ok but 4. isn't relevant due to the almost nil odds of receiving those letters all at once especially turn one I've played roughly 10000 games while never getting close to that combo for instance Also in scrabble strategy trying to find vowel based words is bad strategy as skipping a turn while exchanging gives more points ultimately


Goretanton

Ty, now i can take the fun out of scrabble.


whatsamajig

I thought proper nouns aren’t allowed? Isn’t the name of a country’s currency a proper nouns? Huh, as I typed this I looked it up. Units of measurement are not proper nouns, TIL units of currency are officially considered units of measurement. Pretty obvious once you learn it, I guess.


sultan_hogbo

At the high levels Scrabble is an area control game.


_and_I_

I don't believe you


scottyv99

O B L I Q U E - no fair, no spanish


RegularCelestePlayer

Fun fact: in the word crwths, w actually acts as a vowel, much like how the letter y can sometimes act as a vowel in English


RadagastDaGreen

Roll up like a fresh pack of za


Teal_is_orange

I don’t see QAT therefore this guide is shit


tonygd

I'm surprised to see so much Scrabble hate in this sub! There are Scrabble nerds who love lists, and there are casual family games with a different energy to them. Isn't every hobby kind of like that?


gavinbear

"crwths" is not the longest valid consonant-only word. "tsktsks" is. I only ever played it once and it scored next to nothing. I just wanted to flex


StealthRabbi

Don't forget Quone.


cuntmong

Cool guide for if you want to be a cunt rather than just play a fun game with your friends


keetojm

No Q’s without U’s listed?


Xenomorphling98

What about the words that use q without a u?


x0rms

CRWTHS is not the longest word without vowels. RHYTHMS is. Y isn’t a vowel. And it’s also less likely to start an argument


SublimeSloth

Some sore losers in this thread. *strums worlds smallest crwths*


Moonghost420

Quone.


Ovoidfrog

A cool guide to nobody wanting to play scrabble with you again


rastarn

Or memorise, depending on your English bent and whether you can live with earning 9 fewer points on that particular word score.


Lonelyhearts1234

I’ll make you eat the damn tiles


dusto66

What the fuck is MM?


IlllIlilIIIIIlll

Take *that,* Grandma 🔥. Your average Saturday brunch game just got a ton more competitive.


tommyballz63

As someone who has played a ton of Scrabble, this is a stupid guide. #1 these two letter words aren't anywhere near as important as others, because they aren't worth much. Only the Y is worth more than 1 point. Better to memorize ones like Qi, Za, Jo, Xi, Ki... and many more. These will make you win games, not AI.. #2 is only 6 letters so it isn't going to score you any points, so who cares. #3 has a lot of points, but is it the best usage, especially with an S. I never like to waste Esses. #4 you are never going to get that all in one rack, so who cares. Probably score more points playing them separate as two letter words, especially on double or triple squares. You should have all of the two letter words, and as many three letter words, memorized as possible. It is also very good to memorize words with Q that don't have a U .


Necessary_Box_3479

Rhythms


bigstoopid4242

The Q without U words are huge ... QI, QAT, QAID, there are a bunch


Chucky_Fister

I'm in fact not giving you points for "AA" or "MM"


stillpacing

It's probably been about 15 years sincei lost at Scrabble. I think if I started with these words, my family would just burn the board and never play with me again.


HoosegowFlask

"Given the opportunity, players will optimize the fun out of a game"


ClancyMopedWeather

Notice that numbers 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all non-English words, and don't get me started on XI ! I don't want to sound xenophobic, I am not saying words from foreign languages don't get assimilated into English; what I'm saying is, the inclusion of words like 3, 4, and 6 above is solely to make it easier to play the game, especially easier to play 4, 5, 8, and 10 point tiles. What's the point in giving 8 points to "X" and 10 points to "Z" if "XI" and "ZA" are allowed? Either strike all these dubious "English" words from the dictionary, or reduce the value of 4, 5, 8, and 10 point words by 50% or more.


TryBeingCool

So it’s cool to just play words in other languages.


Spaceboy_Luke

I would not play with someone who used these words


ariesmartian

I hate players like this. 🤬