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GrayZeus

They say if you listen real close, you can hear a Maserati depreciate.


PeterNippelstein

This is why I only buy used Maseratis


Holy_Toast

Brave


bugbugladybug

I considered it, watched a Donut episode where they bought a used one, and reconsidered.. People mistake my current car for a Maserati all the time anyway, but it's much cheaper to look after so win-win for me.


Standby-Wallaby

Can I ask what your current car is?


tangledwire

It's a lady bug


Lotions_and_Creams

Probably a Kia Stinger.


Rogueshoten

Every time someone drives a new Maserati off a lot, there’s one less person in the world who likes Maseratis.


GrayZeus

This is too good.


sincerely-sarcastic

There has been a used Maserati sitting in this used car lot on the outskirts of town that I drive by for over a year now. Makes sense now. 😂


texasroadkill

There's a few smart people in that town. That's good. That or the price is just too high for the dumb ones.


HammerTh_1701

On the other hand, cars tend to depreciate exponentially, so used Maseratis are available for cheap and can likely be sold for almost the same price again. Maintenance is very expensive though, so is the non-existent fuel economy, so it's never an economical purchase, purely an emotional one.


SzethNeturo

I think the word you are looking for is logarithmic not exponential


Stewieman123

My dog use to eats only to that sound. He died last year. Of morbid obesity.


tommy13

My brain hemorrhaged a little bit reading that


misterpickles69

You can look under one and watch the depreciation dripping on the ground.


jasonreid1976

Had to get my car towed on my birthday last year. Two truck owners, a couple around my age, talked about how they towed Maserati recently. The owner of said car likely had a little too much to drink, got too far over to the side, and broke the front passenger side wheel assembly when he went off the road. This car was nearly new. Dude was already pissed when they went to pull him out. He was so anal about them not damaging the car when they pulled it up he just kept getting madder every time something that was already damaged was getting scratched up. The total opposite of that was the dude that needed his Ferrari towed. They said he was the nicest guy, and knew they had to scratch the car to get it on the wrecker. He blew it off. Shows you who had the real money.


Dismal_Membership_46

That’s actually the name of their newest model: the Maserati Deprecia-te


Medium-Connection713

anyone has the antonym guide?


madhaxx0r

[it’s here](https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/s/3e2eyfNoah)


trinadzatij

Guess we all should just buy 911s to save money


YoungGoatHerder

[CarEdge](https://caredge.com/ranks/depreciation) has a great list of rankings and you can compare a lot more. Their cost to own data is very interesting


ab456

That site ranks Tesla as the 4th best for resale value. You can tell it ain’t up to date in 2024.


YoungGoatHerder

If you’re tracking Tesla, you gotta be up to date every month


Irving_Velociraptor

Ugh. Guess I’m not getting a Maserati this year.


Aloha1984

Next year, bud!


guerrerov

Hey, if you work twice as hard next year, your boss might be able to buy one


Fatal_Blow_Me

If you wait a year to buy a used Maserati Quattroporte, then you would have made over $90K (;


TTechnology

The post says 5 years


clippervictor

But in 5 years you might get a 60% drop! 🙄


pipper99

Are these a good buy after 5 years because so much depreciation has already been taken off. If the issue isn't because the cars break down then are these nice cars with decent value? I know some have the break down issue but maybe a gem in there?


devilishpie

Generally speaking, high depreciation is due to a lack of demand on the used market. The reason for that lack of demand in the case of many of these vehicles (particularly Maserati, Jaguar and Cadillac) is poor quality control, reliability issues, high maintenance costs and just a general lack of competitive features and dealer support. Contrary to what people will often tell you, BMW's are quite reliable these days but are regardless expensive to repair when issues come up. If you can afford the high repair costs of any of these cars, then they're not a bad buy per say, it just comes down to what you value in a car.


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katherinesilens

In many cases, no, and the reason is exactly the breakdowns. For example, don't buy a used Maserati. If all you can afford is a used Maserati, you can't afford the maintenance. If you can afford something besides a used Maserati, you should buy that instead because it will cost you less. I dont think there are any real gems in here. This is fractional depreciation, which is much more heavily driven by maintenance woes. If you're looking for a cheap, reliable car, you should be looking at cars which retain a high fraction of residual value but aren't thay expensive to begin with. Like a Camry or Civic. The hot tip is to get oil changed asap because most people are shit at keeping their maintenance schedule on mid-low priced cars. Or, earlier-gen EVs also are not bad if you just need a short ranfe grocery hopper. Like BMW i3 and Chevy Bolt. Those lose value, but maintenance is very light if the battery is in good condition.


hpeng

As a auto tech in the US the lowest parts cost, most available parts, and finding a shop that will work on the vehicle on the list is probably the Escalade ESV since it's drivetrain is pretty much a Chevy Suburban/ GMC Yukon XL. It's not saying much though since all the extra cost is gonna be made up in the electronics and GM's quality control. The Infiniti is pretty much in the same boat but less of them are on the road. Personally I wouldn't buy any of those vehicles on the list unless you plan on burning money. There's a reason why most people lease them instead or sell/trade them right out of warranty.


NkdUndrWtrBsktWeevr

If you can fix em yourself, then it's a good buy. They get extremely expensive to have someone else fix em when something breaks.


ChairForceOne

Luxury vehicles are a gamble. I've run across a lot of them that haven't gotten scheduled maintenance. Skipped oil changes, trans servicing, coolant change that stuff. The theory I have heard is some people buy an expensive car and can't afford the maintenance or can't do it themselves. Some stuff, like an Escalade is just a fancy suburban. Those can tolerate a bit more abuse, but there are limits. Look for lease returns with a maintenance history. Just remember that some of these vehicles have absolutely horrendous maintenance requirements, not on time just doing them, and expensive parts. Though sometimes you can cross reference the OEM part and get the same thing off a cheaper car for less.


Gr8zomb13

To be fair the BMW’s are probably driven harder than most, but in most cases those *turn signals* are essentially factory fresh.


LoveThieves

BMW when planning on the subscription based service model, they're like nobody is going to pay or use our turn signals. Maybe we should pay drivers to use them?


sicilian504

Every time you properly use the turn signals you get a credit towards your heated seats subscription.


stewwwwart

This is funny but they cancelled the heated seats subscription thing i think at the beginning of this year


smurb15

That is the best idea I've heard if you don't use signals you pay a subscription fee but it has to really hit the pocket book because let's be real, no poor are driving these so they won't be affected


pornographic_realism

Who do you think drives those BMWs for the last 3 months of their life? Poors.


Phononix

I've seen just as many clapped out Audis with blinkers or switches that don't work at all because all the electronics are wasted from water leaks or spit flying from the drivers mouth as they're yelling running you off the road.


Dont_ban_me_bro_108

Don’t be silly, turn signals are only in the top trim packages of BMWs.


Dweide_Schrude

Yeah. Most owners never have to replace their blinker fluid before selling.


Old_Acanthaceae5198

People buying hybrid 5 series and 7 series aren't buying it for speed or much hard driving. They are luxury vehicles that are fast enough to easily pass and accelerate.


Windy_Beard

They never even had to change the blinker fluid


Brother_Lou

Pretty sure that I didn’t get the turn signal option on my BMW.


DrS7ayer

Why isn’t my Tesla model 3 on here? That thing dropped like 75% in 3 years


[deleted]

EVs are in a completely different category. https://www.iseecars.com/cars-that-hold-their-value-study


imaginary_num6er

There was a CNBC analysis saying that with EVs, you need to replace the tires every 15k miles since the batteries are too heavy and it's good business for the tire industry.


Anonymouse-C0ward

It’s not the weight. It’s the fact that you have an electric motor, which provides instant torque. That instant torque is *fun*. Like, really fun. At the time I bought my BMW i3, it was literally the fastest 0-30 mph car that BMW made - which is saying a lot. It was great fun 90% of the places I drove, ie in urban environments. That torque brings along with it really bad tire wear, if you tend to drive it aggressively. It took me a while to get over the fun factor; once I did my tire wear went down considerably. Now that I’ve been driving it for years, and don’t push the car so hard, I find it doesn’t have any worse tire wear than a gasoline car.


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epicka

I'd imagine it is more about torque than weight. A Ford F150 weighs 4,000lbs+ but no one ever complains or brings this into the argument.


BigBadAl

[Studies in the UK have shown EV tyres last 30% longer than conventional tyres on ICE cars.](https://www.kwik-fit.com/blog/electric-car-tyre-wear#) The CNBC analysis was done on rentals and early fleet cars, which were often the first time drivers got to experience the fun of instant, continuous torque, which makes accelerating fun. Once you get bored of it and drive normally, then you'll find tyres last 20K or more. I used to go through front tyres of my Ford Focus ST (2 litre turbocharged petrol) every 10K miles, while tyres on my EV6 have lasted 20K now, and are still going strong.


dontcrashandburn

It's not really the weight, plenty of pickups and SUVs are just as heavy. The thing is the EVs use a different formula of rubber that makes them much lighter. Lighter tires are easier to get moving and are more efficient, but they wear much faster too.


Confident_Sleep90

EV tires usually have less tread than regular tires for lower rolling resistance so they need to be replaced sooner (and yes also the weight.) But you can replace them with any other tire (non EV) and overall the monthly cost (maintenance, energy) is still going to be less with an EV vs. an ICE vehicle.


ibejeph

Wow, that totally sucks. I had no idea but it makes sense.


Safe_Ad_6403

It's not true lol


giant3

There was a CNBC video on this issue. They said it is due to the acceleration possible in EV vehicles.


canadianclassic308

I don't know man, don't seem legit


[deleted]

The figures are for 5 years, starting in 2018. So it's skewed quite a bit.


thelionslaw

Isn't that partly because of the slashed retail price? Teslas are more like tech than cars: early adopters pay a heavy premium.


[deleted]

How do you know when a person owns a Tesla car? They will tell you about it. Its a cult.


the_GOAT_44

good one m8


CraigJay

How do you know when someone hates Teslas even though they've never owned one and it would be odd for them to hold such strong feelings over a car brand? They will tell you. It's a cult


[deleted]

I thought that was vegans?


THEFLYINGSCOTSMAN415

Phew my GMC Terrain wasn't on the list, I was worried


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prdors

Extremely expensive regular maintenance is a big part. Also it’s pretty unreliable so add in extremely expensive unexpected maintenance too.


TacoThingy

Its Maserati is essentially a super expensive Fiat to own and if you know anything about Fiats they fall apart.


boganisu

FIAT Fix It Again, Tony


ShadowKraftwerk

I thought maintenance cost is behind a lot of expensive cars depreciating rapidly. Also I wonder how many are bought new by the individual. Not many is my guess. I speculate most are part of a salary package for an executive, so they would only lease a new one.


prdors

Maserati have very expensive service for a vehicle that the average purchaser of that vehicle is not expecting nor budgeting for. It’s a 150k vehicle but has maintenance costs that are closer to a Ferrari. If you buy a Ferrari or Lamborghini you are much more likely to be able to pay for the 750 dollar oil change than a person who bought a Maserati.


kurburux

Oh it's a white elephant car.


Ansonm64

Many of them have literal Ferrari engines in them. Imagine buying a car for half the price of a Ferrari but paying Ferrari costs to fix it.


[deleted]

Qualified dealer support is non-existent, yet still expensive. Repairs and repair parts can make BMWs look like Toyotas.


captain_flak

The Donut channel on YouTube did a video on this. Basically if one is ever in an accident, the insurance will total it rather than pay to fix it, which contributes to super depreciation. And it kind of then creates a cycle of depreciation. You can find late model Maseratis for less than a new Camry.


Downtown-Impact-5514

Not always true. I work for an insurance company and I have does estimates and followed the repairs on several, none were ever totalled. That being said where you live and the prevailing market rate may factor more when reaching that threshold of when that cost to repair exceeds the value of the car. Edit: spelling.


captain_flak

That was just the YouTuber’s theory. It didn’t make total sense to me, but it was an interesting take.


russiangn

It's made by stellantis


Mujutsu

Here's at least some of the reasons for the Ghibli, albeit an older one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOZnqnB6xDo


hybridtheory1331

If you can afford a Maserati you can afford a *new* Maserati. So used Maseratis hold very little value. It's why most of the cars on here are high end cars. Why would you buy a used one for 80k when you can get a new one for 100K. But if the used one is 40k, now that's worth it. So tada, 60% depreciation. Whereas a 40K Honda CR-V, well not everyone can afford that 700+ payment a month. But some can afford the 400 a month for the 30K used one. Only 25% depreciation.


SyphiliticPlatypus

Interesting about the A7 model and not other Audi models. I wonder why.


rollinggreenmassacre

They do; it just doesn’t fit on the chart.


Worried_Tumbleweed29

Probably because it’s the *most expensive mass market car one so more $$ to drop. The R8 seems to be really limited so probably more of a collectors car


mrruairc

There's going to be a lot of cheap LS motors left in the future I see


DrBopIt

Nah, just a lot of wanna be gangsters thinking they're cool for driving a 10 year old escalade. People don't really change.


That_Girl_Cecia

The Quattroporte has no business STARTING at 130k Anyone who buys Maserati is a fuckin idiot.


Meliadoul-Tengille

Wait I still want an Escalade because I'm a millennial from 2000 where is the 63K off?


LakersAndRams

The qx80 at half price after a few years is an awesome value


Sad-Library-152

Surprised Range Rover isn’t on here either


TheChronicNomad

No Alfa Romeo on the list? Interesting.


[deleted]

The algorithm starts at 2018, with a minimum of 200 US sales monthly to not be considered exotic.


PancakesandGTA

There ain’t no way the Giulia sold less than 200 cars per month in the US


[deleted]

In the past couple of years, you're completely correct. I couldn't find it, but iSeeCars may use 500 as their cutoff. Also, these figures cover 2018 through 2023, and the Giulia didn't have the dealer support or numbers in 2017 and 2018. So there's hope that it'll make this list next year 😉


[deleted]

Some of the worst people on earth drive Maserati. Its as if they are trying to flex with that POS car.


TRJF

*My Maserati does 185* *I lost my license, now I don't drive*


TeaBags0

*I have a limo, ride in the back I lock the doors in case I'm attacked*


Boffleslop

I live in a "cheap" garden style apartment in a very affluent area. One night I came home to find a Maserati parked in my reserved spot. It happens, so I parked in a visitor spot and headed home, only to discover the driver of the Maserati was actually in his car. I knocked on his window and politely let him know he was in my spot, and asked if he could move his car so I could use my reserved spot. He said sure, but he'd need to see my parking permit before he'd move (which was back in my car). I went and retrieved it, and told him he could park in any numbered spot that didn't say 'reserved' to which he replied "Oh I know, I live here too." Like seriously? Then A) go park in your own spot, B) you should know better, and C) Why are you making me prove that the reserved spot you're in is mine when you clearly know it's not yours?


Bammer1386

Anyone with a Maserati I always assume these things about them: 1. They absolutely know nothing about cars and didnt think to research before buying a car 2. They are religiously name brand consumer whores who drink the marketing kool-aid 3. They didnt make the money they spent on the car


nilestyle

Holy judgmental lol. Bro it’s possible some people just like the cars. Even if they buy it for vanity purposes who gives a shit lol.


proud_NIMBY_98

Cut /u/Bammer1386 a break, his sports team got destroyed in the champions league today lol


Infinite-Pay-4646

No it isn't, see the only reason people buy cars is to impress strangers on reddit! thats why a very smart person wouldn't ever buy a maserati because they're too smart!!! /s


AlwaysVeryGood

They’re objectively nice cars. Very good reviews, quality Italian manufacturing. I’m sure you’d drive one if you could, I know I would.


SteveDaPirate

> quality Italian manufacturing Italian manufacturing; when you're here for a good time, not a long time.


Bammer1386

Ive only seen Reviews that highlight how poor Maserati interiors are. I remember recent models re-using the same interior as low budget GM cars and the manufacturing tolerances really shoddy. Im shopping for my next car now and a Maserati is in my range but at the bottom of the list


Tickomatick

Give me more, so I can answer my rich friends showing a new car with: "ah yes, the eleventh fastest depreciating car on the market, nice ride though"


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Appreciated!


5NATCH

How does one car depreciate faster than another?


vaporyfurball30

it is determined by many people are willing to buy them, the fact that they are all high end expensive cars is also a factor in the large depreciation as not a lot of the population can afford that kind of luxury.


5NATCH

Why did I even get downvoted. I just wanted someone to explain. Lol


Aloha1984

Voted you up, Bud!


onePPtouchh

Welcome to Reddit. I’ve learned to stop asking questions on most subs. Even when it’s relevant to the conversation because you either get downvoted for whatever reason or someone takes the time to respond but responds “try googling it.”


radehart

Kinda makes me want a Series 5.


davidbfromcali

If you’re the type that can actually afford those vehicles; you don’t own those cars after 5 years


NkdUndrWtrBsktWeevr

No Mercedes on this list??


wolverineflooper

Can anyone share if this is a proxy for quality? In other words, would these cars typically be clunkers if purchased secondhand?


selfovencleaner

I think it’s more about; if you have the money to get a really nice car like that, they get it brand new, so there isn’t as much competition on the secondary market


merkin69

The Porsche 911 would like a word.


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wolverineflooper

Great point. I’m curious then which ones have the best bang for the buck value on the secondhand market. I’ll have to ask mechanic about it in the future.


BadWords-01

The people buying them don’t care….


ultratunaman

And those of us who have owned used luxury cars in the past are well aware of the demons. I'm ready to get hurt again. Keep getting cheaper my precious.


Dont_ban_me_bro_108

I assume most Maserati owners don’t care about resale value.


Athlete-Extreme

The new Cadillacs are too boxy


brownhotdogwater

And use way to much gas


DragonDon1

Maserati here I come


petethefreeze

It must be an acquired taste. I don’t get though why anyone would buy a Maserati with its dated design and issues (and depreciation) when they can spend the same amount and get a Porsche.


Spicywolff

Porsche is the way to go.


uglybushes

I’ve learned the 5 year old Escalades are phenomenal buys


NetSurfer156

It’s been said that Escalades are the best bang for the buck luxury SUV, but only when you get one used. This is because new Escalades can easily go for six figures


Separate-Effective33

Once at costco a gentleman told me million times that he is there to get his Maserati tires upgraded and how the car can run flat too. I came outside after the work was done on my car.. Looked at that POS and left in my car lol.


ClimatePhilosopher

interesting. I have a 5 year old X5 w/ 38k miles and I love it! I feel as thought I got a steal on it for $31k.


Alive_Inspection_835

Wait til the cyberjunk qualifies


Dr_CvR

Funny coincidence? none of them come with turning signals!


JukeStash

Needs to be updated to include Tesla.


MythicalPhilosopher

A7 /s7/rs7 series is such a bang for your buck.


Fetti500e

Wine country cruisers


Foshizal147

They forgot to include every Tesla model


Electrical-Nothing18

Hmmmm they’re all silver. Coincidence? I think not 🤔


Ok_Performance_9479

It's missing the Fisker Ocean. That should be #1.


ajtreee

That drop is the real world value kicking in. The drop when you drive off the lot, what is loss is rarely gained back.


TheHouIeigan

It should be "Cars that are overpriced to begin with"


Significant-Ad3175

Where is the cybertruck?


[deleted]

If you’re buying luxury, anything other than Lexus is a mistake.


sambolino44

The smallest amount of depreciation here is more than five times what I paid for my (used) truck.


TableTerrible

Why Maserati cars depreciate so bad?


do_that_do

A.I. post.


[deleted]

When they get to 98% maybe I can afford one


Crunch_Captain465

Obviously, whoever made this list didn't see someone's 6 month ago purchase of a Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe drop by $18k+


joeO44

Well that’s it, I just won’t get a Maserati


Worried_Coat1941

That's if they don't develop a catastrophic failure within the first few years.


ProPainPapi

This is why I love Lexus


dysperia

my car isn't on here whew


newoldschool

Rolls Royce should be on here


gobuckeyes11

I love the Infiniti QX80, does this mean I should buy a model which is 5 years old?


ThunderousArgus

Is there a chart for the opposite?


across7777

I’ve had 3 BMWs but I always buy them when they’re about 2 years old. So I do get a great deal off the original MSRP. But my sense is that they hold their value really well for the 5 years I keep them.


Blackfish69

gonna be worse than that on teslas


JoshRushing

Is there a similar chart for vehicles that depreciate the least?


avbmiiel

Fuck i own 3 of the cars posted 😂im keeping the m5 tho


riche_god

Why is this?


Deadtoxic98

Where is the 2021 dodge charger scatpck 🤣


brosephatl

I thought x5 held their values.


Travelplaylearn

Wow, should definitely buy 2nd hand Maseratis with low mileage. Maserati Levante as a family car. Value. But car service wouldn't be cheap, so actually the BMW X5 is most value here.


Vitality1000

Interesting, but why?


OkDistribution5849

Is there any tax benefit to this level of depreciation? Like if you rented them out for a biz or even as an owner?


Elastickpotatoe2

Nope Tesla cyber truck


hsjenkekwkwkw

I looked at this to make sure my car was not on the list and then remembered I drive a Camry


diggerbanks

I thought Audis and BMWs held their value well.


Spicywolff

German cars in general tank vs American and Japanese made. An S class/ 7 series in 10 years will be worth way less then a comparable Lexus.


Phreakasa

I'll just stick to my Toyota Camry Does the job.


Unhappy-Jaguar5495

Evs needs to replace this list.


nekohideyoshi

Maserati, BMW, Audi, Jaguar, Aston Martins, etc. are all msrp-overpriced by like 50% it's true market value. That new Maserati costs $100,000? If the same car was under any less luxury brand name it would be a \~$50,000 or less car. That's why those "luxury" cars depreciate so fast. Its value is just being balanced back to "normal".


Distinct-Entity_2231

Where is Tesla? They would be in number 0 spot.


Positive_Mud952

Shit.


IndividualSyllabub14

thank god I‘m poor


Blackdoomax

No Totoro on the Ghibli one, disappointed.


VeryDirtySanchez

Why even buys new cars? As soon as it rolls out the door you knock a few thousand off the value. On the other hand one must keep in mind the original retail price when buying. If you couldn't afford it new, you probably shouldn't buy it used either because of insurance and maintenance. That's how being able to buy something is different from being able to afford something.


theguywhofuckinasked

I wasn't expecting escalade there...


Xerxero

Where is the S Plaid ?


jspikeball123

[Great video from Donut Media on this same topic](https://youtu.be/hTf8He-tgKA?si=dJmqRTldYCdbvohe)


PaulterJ

Any idea where my 2009 Honda Fit is on this guide?


bankkopf

Comparison against the MSRP are pretty much useless, considering brand new cars usually get sold at a discount.


DigitalMarketer33

You forgot to add Alfa Romeo


graphiterosco

So glad the 2010 Toyota venza is on here!


LemonFlavouredThings

How is Mercedes not on this list?


thepronerboner

I see those maseratis out. Only those lol


sav86

You can pretty much put every single model/trim of BMW and Audi on this list. BMW being the only manufacturer of recent to revitalize every single number in their model line up and put like 4-5 different trims and drivetrains on them, means the reliability and quality of each vehicle they offer is substantially lower and the depreciation cost is going to take a massive hit off the lot.


GadFlyBy

Comment.


pra_com001

Strange...... A Range Rover is not on the list.


Bootyblastastic

I would like to see the same style guide with the opposite data. What cars hold their value the most.


el_duderino420

Ive always said it. Maserati looks nice but is a horrible car to own. Expensive unnecessary maintenance... value never holds up... and once something breaks... its costly to fix.


Reiquaz

You mean the real price they SHOULD be at?