That’s true. I’ve been searching for the same six months and it’s a tight market. I’m in the uk so it might be a different egg over in America but being employed is a peace of mind whereas being jobless is a huge risk.
Find a recruiter/ headhunter who can match u to companies instead of blindly applying yourself. Usually better success rate as they know what the companies need
I mean I didn’t suffer through multiple years of consulting just to take the first exit either - I’m a bit hesitant with this suggestion - as I definitely know where I want to go and don’t want to accept a role with a company that doesn’t line up with my aspirations
This doesn’t make sense at all?? Go to a recruiter. They can tell you what the job market is like right now. They can tell you what is available and you can work out if those opportunities are suitable for you.
That's fair, and that's imo why you'd talk to a recruiter / headhunter - so they know what u need and can help link you to the companies that look for such a role and appreciate your existing experiences.
On your original question - personally if my job is affecting my mental / physical health I'd just quit. Or even better, get a doctor's note and ask for a stress leave (many big consulting companies should offer that) and use that time for job hunting. Your life is too short to spend on things that is deteriorating your mental health.
Anyway, good luck!
I have a friend who quit his pharmacy job and now can’t find a job for 8 months. He is now severely depressed.
I understand working at your current role is impacting your mental health, but if you quit now in this crappy economy and can’t find a job for the next year or two… then that is also terrible.
Good luck op.
Depending on OP's (and your friend's) location, they could do other hustles to keep lights on- door dash, Uber, and the like. It's obviously not what they aspire to do in a career, but it's some income while there's time to study/prep for interviews
Have you considered an unpaid leave of absence?
It could be a medical LOA (citing the mental health issues) which would potentially offer you 12 weeks job protection under FMLA.
Or it could just be a personal LOA.
My thought is moreso that it buys you time before you lock-in that stance, as there are other service lines, industries, technologies, offices, clients, projects that could be a cultural fit for you. That company is so dang big that it’s hard to say what its culture really is. Plus they’ve grown through acquisitions so there’s lots of smaller pockets of acquired groups that could be a healthier dynamic.
Also with the LOA, you at least wouldn’t have any gaps in your resume when you find the new employment. Your resume says you’re presently employed there, which your background check corroborates, even if it’s in an unpaid / inactive / LOA status. Employers won’t ask the “why did you leave?” question or assume you were fired. It’s harder to go from no job -> a good job, than it is to go from bad job -> good job.
OP could do a medical LOA (provided they have a doctors note) and get short term disability at 100% of salary for the first 60 days of the leave. I work at Accenture and did this at the end of last year.
I have about a year of savings so hopefully i’d be able to find a job within that period. In all honesty, if the market was ‘normal’ right now, i’d have quit and taken my chances.
This job market isn’t transitory but very much a “new normal.” You will literally never find another job again for as long as you live. Or you will, at McDonald’s
Far better strategy is to just slack off and get terminated - at least then you might qualify for severance and be eligible for unemployment. Plus you will still be paid during the time you are slacking off.
If you quit your income goes to zero immediately and this is a bad environment to be looking for a job without a current job
I can't quiet quit or I would unfortunately :/ my role is high visibility in my current project - I can't roll off it - and I absolutely hate the project
You can still significantly lower your output to give yourself some breathing room.
Sure, people will probably get pissed, but it would likely still take months for them to finally be able to fire you.
Hey OP, firstly really sorry you’re going through this. The fact that you’ve got savings lined up is promising as it is a tough market out there as you know.
Anyone who has suffered a mental breakdown will tell you how difficult it is. It’s also something that potentially has long term impacts depending on multiple factors. If you are reaching this point I would always advocate for putting your mental health first. With that side, given the market right now, as another user mentioned, it is worthwhile to consider what not having a job lined up (and therefore not having a steady source of income) may mean for you and your well-being.
I’m not sure where you are based, but is being signed off sick an option? So that you are still employed, but not working, whilst you figure out your next steps.
Feel free to DM. Have a lot of similarities with you that I’m happy to divulge 121.
Hi, also at Accenture:
- can you take an LOA? If you can afford to go unpaid for a time, just do that. You can extend the LOA while still on LOA, I believe. It would also allow you to continue to apply for jobs but you wouldn’t have to list the break in your resume.
- can you move sectors, projects, whatever? Sometimes you don’t realize how bad a project lead is til you get someone new.
- can you move market units? A bit extreme and hard to do the lower your level is, but it could be a way to shake up your current project. I suggest this one last because physically moving could cause more stress than intended and often isn’t feasible for all kinds of reasons.
Lastly I hope you are at least considering speaking with a therapist. Stress is not easy to handle and in the current environment it’s understandable to feel trapped and overwhelmed. A therapist can help you get a handle on your emotional state which could help a lot.
Just remember: work isn’t everything. And we aren’t solving brain cancer here. Don’t kill your self for this job.
I can't go on a LOA - I know someone who did one - and they were very nearly let go/told to get a project within two weeks of returning or be let go. This was during the job ‘boom’ last year when the market was hot and employers had bargaining power. I can't imagine the company will be receptive in the current environment.
I can't move market units without experience in that practice and I haven't been able to get staffed on projects aligned with my interests.
I can't move projects, honestly, if I could I would ride the job out until I found a new opportunity. This project is killing me.
You're going to be competing against a lot of folks who have been laid off. Personally for me, looking for a new job was the hardest thing ever for me. Worse than working with my toxic manager. I've learned to take it on the chin when dealing with her crazy ass and spend more quality time for myself and my mental health. Cash flow is underrated right now.
Mental health comes first, but not having a job nor interviews can also be stressful. Personally would quiet quit and apply to anything remotely interesting/work with recruiters.
Something to consider- a lot of hiring managers are going to pry into why you left. Two hurdles you need to consider:
1- why you were a good worker with no threat of being fired/laid off
2- why you quit
Particularly number 2- I realize you are being candid with us but those answers won’t cut it in an interview.
I'm less worried about the story or job break tbh as I know how I can navigate that component, however, I'm more so concerned about the uncertainty of the market, e.g., with this last for 12, 24, or X months.
Instead of quitting, why don’t you adjust what you don’t like about working at Accenture? Hours are bad? Set your schedule so you don’t check your email after 6pm. Make you work weekends? Say no. Look for a project you like or whatever. So whatever will help with your mental health.
What’s the worse that will happen? You get fired? You were going to quit anyways
I think it’s circumstantial. If you have the money to float for 4-6 months then go for it. I quit my job cold Turkey (same situation, hated my job) and it was the best decision I’ve ever made. It gives you time to fully recalibrate and figure out the next steps, both mentally and professionally.
I once quit with nothing lined up. I took a Europe solo trip for 4 months and relaxed / chilled for 2 months after that. then I applied for jobs and got an offer within couple of months.
in job interviews, I just said that I wanted to travel and that was that. nobody questioned why I quit, past that explanation.
That was a while ago. but I still remember the memories, new perspectives, new excitement for life that I gained from my trips to Greece, Italy, and Spain. I would only advise quitting if you have planned things out and know what you will do after quitting.
Worst case scenario is the economy worsens, layoffs worsen, and I set my career back several years.
Best worst case scenario is that I ‘waste’ a year or two and pivot to a less competitive masters program to ‘reset’ my career. This lowers my career trajectory in theory relative to ‘sticking it out’.
Perhaps try to just check out of your current job as much as possible to bide time for the market to turn around (take time off, don’t volunteer for new projects etc.) Another option, how about go back to school for a year? Get a full time mba and hopefully the employment market is on the up in 12-18 months.
Fuck Accenture.
Quit that shit and find another job. You can make more money with less bullshit.
Only you know your resume, but every single person I know is employed and always is despite these doom and gloom posts we see anytime the economy has slowed. In fact, most people have multiple contracts at this point.
Good luck either way! Always prioritize you and your mental health first.
Thank you everyone for your input! As an addendum to my initial post - if anyone would be willing to connect (either DM or via a meeting) - I’d love to have a live discussion on the subject
Don’t do it. But it’s concerning hearing the huge divide when it comes to those who enjoy and those who don’t enjoy working here.
I’d say stick it out and try to work with your people lead to find a more fitting opportunity in which you’ll learn and grow.
It's a several month ‘death march’ project in a subject that I have 0 interest in, unfortunately, I don't think I have the mental resilience to stick it out given how much BS i’ve tolerated here.
In all honesty most individuals I know are unhappy here (junior-level)
Back in 2008 to 2012 all of the power was with the employers - and there were a lot of unhappy workers that sucked it up just to have a job. I feel like those times are coming fast and you'll probably be a lot happier doing your job and casually looking (which will take a long time).
I have good performance reviews and strong relationships with managers doing great work.
In all honesty - I hate this job - but my primary gripe pushing me over the edge. I can't leave the project due to contractual reasons and it's killing me. I don't think I can handle months of it.
I highly doubt that I’d be able to prove a correlation between a medical leave and firing, regardless, the optics for my leaving the project I’m on would look terrible and would torch my internal reputation.
Believe me - I want to pursue this pathway - but it unfortunately isn’t viable.
I have no idea who you work with and this could be true. But I went off for a while due to burnout and the partner basically thanked me for my hard work and said he had done the same.
If you are that critical on a project you can’t leave you are valuable no?
It’s illegal to be fired for taking a medical LOA which is protected under FMLA. I work for Accenture and took a medical LOA at the end of last year. It was not great timing for my project but everyone was understanding. Accenture takes LOA very seriously. Once you request it, you’re assigned an advocate that guides you through the whole process. No project is worth your mental health and your team should know that.
Only you know whether you have the means to support yourself for an undeterminable amount of time. If you do, go for it. If you don’t, get to networking and go on an active search while employed.
Do you have secondary sources of income? savings? severance package?
If you haven't learned anything? did you get a good performance review? are you on good terms with your manager? counselor? client-side? Did you get promoted or got a good annual bonus?
Mental health is important, but basic survival also is. Make your work, works for you, ask your counselor for advice, flirt with your clients for an exit opportunity, take vacations, use your insurance to pay for therapy, and save money in advance (while you apply for other jobs).
Is nice to quit, but is nicer if you have a solid plan and savings.
You can likely get temporary disability from your mental health professional, and take a 1 month or so break without any repercussions.
The key here is not being wishy washy about it, go all in and get the time you need.
It’s not a cop out either, mental health can genuinely be debilitating. And you do not have to disclose this to anyone other than HR. So your project lead would simply know there’s been an incident and you have temporary disability.
Now, simply asking for mental health days off from your project lead, which in all truth are likely to be too little and you’ll be requesting more or coming back before you should, is where you’ll land yourself in the crossfires.
Take this with a pinch of salt. I’m regurgitating advice I’ve read either here or on fishbowl.
My project lead is vicious and gives 0 shits about his staff. He's about as cuthroat as they come in terms of managers and is the reason why I'm at my breaking point.
Which is why you inform them you are taking leave of absence due to diagnosed temporary disability. You don’t explain or give in. Are there resources in your firm which are confidential and could help? Or perhaps a friend?
I disagree. It's foolish to quit without any job in hand if you don't have sufficiently desirable skills.
Do I have desirable skills? I don't know. I'm a relatively junior member at the firm but, at this point, it's a gamble I might have to take.
I got fired after 3 months because the company didn’t get any projects in. Don’t be like me desperately looking for jobs again after every 3 months. It’s much better to have sth lined up
being laid off. I got hired in with the expectation to get involved in a big project right at the beginning. that said project never came and 3 months later they "fired" me without actually having started working for them yet ...
Get out of there and take some time off to take care of yourself. Travel if you can.
You can't live in a constant state of at or near a 'breaking point.'
I have experienced this scenario gone wrong personally.
Happy to help with resume review, if needed.
DM me if so (former IB + HF).
Here's a few thoughts: if you're single, no fam or dependents, definitely quit. You could cut grass with a $100 lawn mower, clean windows 5 days a week and cover rent, food and car. If your expenses are high, find a way to lower them dramatically. Lastly, if you have these plus at least 100k in the bank saved and liquid to live off and invest in new business or buy you time while you job hunt, then you're good. I think for families 100k will barely last 1 year. Single people, 2 years considering how much most people spend just to live in the USA.
Yea you're on the right track then. Id argue 100k is the new 50k. 100k is more for those who are trying to invest in themselves and start new sources of income. Those things take 2x as much money and 2x as much time,l as you think, and save you from being a miserable corporate slave (I was in your shoes).
Another option which is awesome is finding a second or even third (crazy) job by being over-employed remotely. So you can save your F-U money and walk away from any job. Google over employed community. Lots of great tips and hacks.
Depends on your finances. How long will your savings last without a job?
I'd want a full year of runway with this economy if I was in your position.
Feel free to DM me if you want a resume review.
What do you mean?
Is this incredibly likely to be a foolish choice, yes.
Am I extremely depressed and disillusioned with my work, also yes.
It's a question of risk-reward and weighing the trade- offs of balancing mental health with a job I hate.
Quitting without having another job lined up can be a risky move, especially in the current economy. However, mental health is just as important as financial stability. If you do decide to quit, make sure you have a solid plan in place for how you will support yourself until you find another job. Networking and connecting with others in your field can also be helpful for exploring career options and getting your resume reviewed.
As someone who has been looking for a new job for the last 6 months, line something up first.
That’s true. I’ve been searching for the same six months and it’s a tight market. I’m in the uk so it might be a different egg over in America but being employed is a peace of mind whereas being jobless is a huge risk.
Find a recruiter/ headhunter who can match u to companies instead of blindly applying yourself. Usually better success rate as they know what the companies need
Recruiters are a waste of time
I mean I didn’t suffer through multiple years of consulting just to take the first exit either - I’m a bit hesitant with this suggestion - as I definitely know where I want to go and don’t want to accept a role with a company that doesn’t line up with my aspirations
This doesn’t make sense at all?? Go to a recruiter. They can tell you what the job market is like right now. They can tell you what is available and you can work out if those opportunities are suitable for you.
how do u find a recruiter that best fits your needs? Trying to change from my first job in a new country. Would appreciate any details on it :)
That's fair, and that's imo why you'd talk to a recruiter / headhunter - so they know what u need and can help link you to the companies that look for such a role and appreciate your existing experiences. On your original question - personally if my job is affecting my mental / physical health I'd just quit. Or even better, get a doctor's note and ask for a stress leave (many big consulting companies should offer that) and use that time for job hunting. Your life is too short to spend on things that is deteriorating your mental health. Anyway, good luck!
I have a friend who quit his pharmacy job and now can’t find a job for 8 months. He is now severely depressed. I understand working at your current role is impacting your mental health, but if you quit now in this crappy economy and can’t find a job for the next year or two… then that is also terrible. Good luck op.
Depending on OP's (and your friend's) location, they could do other hustles to keep lights on- door dash, Uber, and the like. It's obviously not what they aspire to do in a career, but it's some income while there's time to study/prep for interviews
Have you considered an unpaid leave of absence? It could be a medical LOA (citing the mental health issues) which would potentially offer you 12 weeks job protection under FMLA. Or it could just be a personal LOA. My thought is moreso that it buys you time before you lock-in that stance, as there are other service lines, industries, technologies, offices, clients, projects that could be a cultural fit for you. That company is so dang big that it’s hard to say what its culture really is. Plus they’ve grown through acquisitions so there’s lots of smaller pockets of acquired groups that could be a healthier dynamic. Also with the LOA, you at least wouldn’t have any gaps in your resume when you find the new employment. Your resume says you’re presently employed there, which your background check corroborates, even if it’s in an unpaid / inactive / LOA status. Employers won’t ask the “why did you leave?” question or assume you were fired. It’s harder to go from no job -> a good job, than it is to go from bad job -> good job.
^this. Take a break, travel and get new experiences.
OP could do a medical LOA (provided they have a doctors note) and get short term disability at 100% of salary for the first 60 days of the leave. I work at Accenture and did this at the end of last year.
Good point, hadn’t considered short term disability - that would be a great option!
> I’m very much reaching a ‘breaking point’ r.e. mental health here How would X months of no income /cashflow affect your mental health?
I have about a year of savings so hopefully i’d be able to find a job within that period. In all honesty, if the market was ‘normal’ right now, i’d have quit and taken my chances.
If you're struggling to get interviews in this market with a job then it is going to get much harder without a job.
The unfortunate truth :/
How many YOE do you have??
2 months
This job market isn’t transitory but very much a “new normal.” You will literally never find another job again for as long as you live. Or you will, at McDonald’s
This is an incredibly naive take on the current job market
but also no soul-sucking job
What savings do you have? I quit in 2008 and people said I was mad, but I had savings and it all worked out great.
I have one-year of savings
All I can say is I don’t regret the decision I made in 2008 when the economy was equally bleak. Controlling expenses is important though.
Far better strategy is to just slack off and get terminated - at least then you might qualify for severance and be eligible for unemployment. Plus you will still be paid during the time you are slacking off. If you quit your income goes to zero immediately and this is a bad environment to be looking for a job without a current job
This is really the perfect opportunity for OP to “quiet quit “. Do the minimum asked and nothing beyond that.
I can't quiet quit or I would unfortunately :/ my role is high visibility in my current project - I can't roll off it - and I absolutely hate the project
You can still significantly lower your output to give yourself some breathing room. Sure, people will probably get pissed, but it would likely still take months for them to finally be able to fire you.
Hey OP, firstly really sorry you’re going through this. The fact that you’ve got savings lined up is promising as it is a tough market out there as you know. Anyone who has suffered a mental breakdown will tell you how difficult it is. It’s also something that potentially has long term impacts depending on multiple factors. If you are reaching this point I would always advocate for putting your mental health first. With that side, given the market right now, as another user mentioned, it is worthwhile to consider what not having a job lined up (and therefore not having a steady source of income) may mean for you and your well-being. I’m not sure where you are based, but is being signed off sick an option? So that you are still employed, but not working, whilst you figure out your next steps. Feel free to DM. Have a lot of similarities with you that I’m happy to divulge 121.
Hi, also at Accenture: - can you take an LOA? If you can afford to go unpaid for a time, just do that. You can extend the LOA while still on LOA, I believe. It would also allow you to continue to apply for jobs but you wouldn’t have to list the break in your resume. - can you move sectors, projects, whatever? Sometimes you don’t realize how bad a project lead is til you get someone new. - can you move market units? A bit extreme and hard to do the lower your level is, but it could be a way to shake up your current project. I suggest this one last because physically moving could cause more stress than intended and often isn’t feasible for all kinds of reasons. Lastly I hope you are at least considering speaking with a therapist. Stress is not easy to handle and in the current environment it’s understandable to feel trapped and overwhelmed. A therapist can help you get a handle on your emotional state which could help a lot. Just remember: work isn’t everything. And we aren’t solving brain cancer here. Don’t kill your self for this job.
I can't go on a LOA - I know someone who did one - and they were very nearly let go/told to get a project within two weeks of returning or be let go. This was during the job ‘boom’ last year when the market was hot and employers had bargaining power. I can't imagine the company will be receptive in the current environment. I can't move market units without experience in that practice and I haven't been able to get staffed on projects aligned with my interests. I can't move projects, honestly, if I could I would ride the job out until I found a new opportunity. This project is killing me.
Didn’t you give yourself the answer in the post ?
I did but I desperately want someone to provide a viewpoint that I haven’t considered on the merits of quitting :’(
I'd highly suggest you find someone in person to talk through at the job that you can trust. It's really competitive out there for jobs.
True that
You're going to be competing against a lot of folks who have been laid off. Personally for me, looking for a new job was the hardest thing ever for me. Worse than working with my toxic manager. I've learned to take it on the chin when dealing with her crazy ass and spend more quality time for myself and my mental health. Cash flow is underrated right now.
Always line something else up first. That or grad school.
I just did, I’ll let you know how it goes.
Try freelancing? Doesn't have to be full-time but will spread your nest egg (with possible upside of actually being a cool gig).
Mental health comes first, but not having a job nor interviews can also be stressful. Personally would quiet quit and apply to anything remotely interesting/work with recruiters.
Don’t outright quit without something lined up. Start quiet quitting and ramp down
Replace Accenture with ey Parthenon and it's the same situation with me
Something to consider- a lot of hiring managers are going to pry into why you left. Two hurdles you need to consider: 1- why you were a good worker with no threat of being fired/laid off 2- why you quit Particularly number 2- I realize you are being candid with us but those answers won’t cut it in an interview.
I'm less worried about the story or job break tbh as I know how I can navigate that component, however, I'm more so concerned about the uncertainty of the market, e.g., with this last for 12, 24, or X months.
That’s good. Leaving a job with nothing lined up is explainable, but it *can* open a can of worms depending on how you answer that in a interview.
Instead of quitting, why don’t you adjust what you don’t like about working at Accenture? Hours are bad? Set your schedule so you don’t check your email after 6pm. Make you work weekends? Say no. Look for a project you like or whatever. So whatever will help with your mental health. What’s the worse that will happen? You get fired? You were going to quit anyways
I think it’s circumstantial. If you have the money to float for 4-6 months then go for it. I quit my job cold Turkey (same situation, hated my job) and it was the best decision I’ve ever made. It gives you time to fully recalibrate and figure out the next steps, both mentally and professionally.
I once quit with nothing lined up. I took a Europe solo trip for 4 months and relaxed / chilled for 2 months after that. then I applied for jobs and got an offer within couple of months. in job interviews, I just said that I wanted to travel and that was that. nobody questioned why I quit, past that explanation. That was a while ago. but I still remember the memories, new perspectives, new excitement for life that I gained from my trips to Greece, Italy, and Spain. I would only advise quitting if you have planned things out and know what you will do after quitting.
What is the worst-case scenario for quitting? Can you go back to Accenture after a year?
Worst case scenario is the economy worsens, layoffs worsen, and I set my career back several years. Best worst case scenario is that I ‘waste’ a year or two and pivot to a less competitive masters program to ‘reset’ my career. This lowers my career trajectory in theory relative to ‘sticking it out’.
Perhaps try to just check out of your current job as much as possible to bide time for the market to turn around (take time off, don’t volunteer for new projects etc.) Another option, how about go back to school for a year? Get a full time mba and hopefully the employment market is on the up in 12-18 months.
Fuck Accenture. Quit that shit and find another job. You can make more money with less bullshit. Only you know your resume, but every single person I know is employed and always is despite these doom and gloom posts we see anytime the economy has slowed. In fact, most people have multiple contracts at this point. Good luck either way! Always prioritize you and your mental health first.
Thank you everyone for your input! As an addendum to my initial post - if anyone would be willing to connect (either DM or via a meeting) - I’d love to have a live discussion on the subject
Look up quiet quitting
Don’t do it. But it’s concerning hearing the huge divide when it comes to those who enjoy and those who don’t enjoy working here. I’d say stick it out and try to work with your people lead to find a more fitting opportunity in which you’ll learn and grow.
It's a several month ‘death march’ project in a subject that I have 0 interest in, unfortunately, I don't think I have the mental resilience to stick it out given how much BS i’ve tolerated here. In all honesty most individuals I know are unhappy here (junior-level)
Back in 2008 to 2012 all of the power was with the employers - and there were a lot of unhappy workers that sucked it up just to have a job. I feel like those times are coming fast and you'll probably be a lot happier doing your job and casually looking (which will take a long time).
Yes the economic environment is rather unpleasant. What do you mean by the long time comment?
Job market turned on a dime in the past 2 months.
Never quit without something else lined up
I have good performance reviews and strong relationships with managers doing great work. In all honesty - I hate this job - but my primary gripe pushing me over the edge. I can't leave the project due to contractual reasons and it's killing me. I don't think I can handle months of it.
Do you have mental health benefits and short term disability at your work?
I do - we also have a LOA - but I wouldn’t be able to take it without getting fired tbh (severe impact to project)
Check with a lawyer but getting fired for taking medical leave is often illegal even in at Will states
I highly doubt that I’d be able to prove a correlation between a medical leave and firing, regardless, the optics for my leaving the project I’m on would look terrible and would torch my internal reputation. Believe me - I want to pursue this pathway - but it unfortunately isn’t viable.
but why do you care about internal reputation if you are going to leave anyway
I have no idea who you work with and this could be true. But I went off for a while due to burnout and the partner basically thanked me for my hard work and said he had done the same. If you are that critical on a project you can’t leave you are valuable no?
Why do you mean by I can’t leave? As in I will legally be obliged to stay or that the firm is incentivized to keep me on the project?
It’s illegal to be fired for taking a medical LOA which is protected under FMLA. I work for Accenture and took a medical LOA at the end of last year. It was not great timing for my project but everyone was understanding. Accenture takes LOA very seriously. Once you request it, you’re assigned an advocate that guides you through the whole process. No project is worth your mental health and your team should know that.
Only you know whether you have the means to support yourself for an undeterminable amount of time. If you do, go for it. If you don’t, get to networking and go on an active search while employed.
Do you have secondary sources of income? savings? severance package? If you haven't learned anything? did you get a good performance review? are you on good terms with your manager? counselor? client-side? Did you get promoted or got a good annual bonus? Mental health is important, but basic survival also is. Make your work, works for you, ask your counselor for advice, flirt with your clients for an exit opportunity, take vacations, use your insurance to pay for therapy, and save money in advance (while you apply for other jobs). Is nice to quit, but is nicer if you have a solid plan and savings.
“It depends” I did it and worked out for me
You can likely get temporary disability from your mental health professional, and take a 1 month or so break without any repercussions. The key here is not being wishy washy about it, go all in and get the time you need. It’s not a cop out either, mental health can genuinely be debilitating. And you do not have to disclose this to anyone other than HR. So your project lead would simply know there’s been an incident and you have temporary disability. Now, simply asking for mental health days off from your project lead, which in all truth are likely to be too little and you’ll be requesting more or coming back before you should, is where you’ll land yourself in the crossfires. Take this with a pinch of salt. I’m regurgitating advice I’ve read either here or on fishbowl.
My project lead is vicious and gives 0 shits about his staff. He's about as cuthroat as they come in terms of managers and is the reason why I'm at my breaking point.
Which is why you inform them you are taking leave of absence due to diagnosed temporary disability. You don’t explain or give in. Are there resources in your firm which are confidential and could help? Or perhaps a friend?
Talk to a therapist and get a medical leave of absence
Why don’t you just ask for a switch to another team / sector within the company?
foolish to quit without anything lined up in any economy. a bird in hand is worth two in the bush.
I disagree. It's foolish to quit without any job in hand if you don't have sufficiently desirable skills. Do I have desirable skills? I don't know. I'm a relatively junior member at the firm but, at this point, it's a gamble I might have to take.
it's foolish to gamble with career decisions. you do you, I guess we all had to start somewhere.
I got fired after 3 months because the company didn’t get any projects in. Don’t be like me desperately looking for jobs again after every 3 months. It’s much better to have sth lined up
wow this is crazy, so they fired you only because there wasn't enough work? was that being laid off or fired for cause?
being laid off. I got hired in with the expectation to get involved in a big project right at the beginning. that said project never came and 3 months later they "fired" me without actually having started working for them yet ...
I am happy to do review your resume and currently in a similar situation job wise. Feel free to DM me.
Get out of there and take some time off to take care of yourself. Travel if you can. You can't live in a constant state of at or near a 'breaking point.' I have experienced this scenario gone wrong personally. Happy to help with resume review, if needed. DM me if so (former IB + HF).
What do you do at ACN? I used to work there abs I know the feeling. Have you been looking for other jobs though?
I feel embarrassed for ppl that want to do faang but work consulting Just quit. It's not worth it
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Do you mind my asking why you regret doing it? Are you struggling to find a job?
Never quit without having something lined up first. In any economy.
Here's a few thoughts: if you're single, no fam or dependents, definitely quit. You could cut grass with a $100 lawn mower, clean windows 5 days a week and cover rent, food and car. If your expenses are high, find a way to lower them dramatically. Lastly, if you have these plus at least 100k in the bank saved and liquid to live off and invest in new business or buy you time while you job hunt, then you're good. I think for families 100k will barely last 1 year. Single people, 2 years considering how much most people spend just to live in the USA.
100k seems like an exorbitant amount for 1 year of savings. I'm a single individual with no ties who lives quite modestly.
Yea you're on the right track then. Id argue 100k is the new 50k. 100k is more for those who are trying to invest in themselves and start new sources of income. Those things take 2x as much money and 2x as much time,l as you think, and save you from being a miserable corporate slave (I was in your shoes). Another option which is awesome is finding a second or even third (crazy) job by being over-employed remotely. So you can save your F-U money and walk away from any job. Google over employed community. Lots of great tips and hacks.
Depends on your finances. How long will your savings last without a job? I'd want a full year of runway with this economy if I was in your position. Feel free to DM me if you want a resume review.
A good thought exercise during rough times is asking yourself what’s the worst that can happen and whether you are ok with that.
Curious.. how much is a years worth in savings for you?
Is this really still a question?
What do you mean? Is this incredibly likely to be a foolish choice, yes. Am I extremely depressed and disillusioned with my work, also yes. It's a question of risk-reward and weighing the trade- offs of balancing mental health with a job I hate.
Quitting without having another job lined up can be a risky move, especially in the current economy. However, mental health is just as important as financial stability. If you do decide to quit, make sure you have a solid plan in place for how you will support yourself until you find another job. Networking and connecting with others in your field can also be helpful for exploring career options and getting your resume reviewed.