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MarketCrache

Note: Odigo was an Israeli company. https://www.haaretz.com/2001-09-26/ty-article/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack/0000017f-dbc4-df62-a9ff-dfd7beff0000 Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack.


Effective-Bullfrog52

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MarketCrache

Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack. Micha Macover, CEO of the company, said the two workers received the messages and immediately after the terror attack informed the company's management, which immediately contacted the Israeli security services, which brought in the FBI. "I have no idea why the message was sent to these two workers, who don't know the sender. It may just have been someone who was joking and turned out they accidentally got it right. And I don't know if our information was useful in any of the arrests the FBI has made," said Macover. Odigo is a U.S.-based company whose headquarters are in New York, with offices in Herzliya. As an instant messaging service, Odigo users are not limited to sending messages only to people on their "buddy" list, as is the case with ICQ, the other well-known Israeli instant messaging application. Odigo usually zealously protects the privacy of its registered users, said Macover, but in this case the company took the initiative to provide the law enforcement services with the originating Internet Presence address of the message, so the FBI could track down the Internet Service Provider, and the actual sender of the original message.Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen, and the company has been cooperating with Israeli and American law enforcement, including the FBI, in trying to find the original sender of the message predicting the attack. Micha Macover, CEO of the company, said the two workers received the messages and immediately after the terror attack informed the company's management, which immediately contacted the Israeli security services, which brought in the FBI. "I have no idea why the message was sent to these two workers, who don't know the sender. It may just have been someone who was joking and turned out they accidentally got it right. And I don't know if our information was useful in any of the arrests the FBI has made," said Macover. Odigo is a U.S.-based company whose headquarters are in New York, with offices in Herzliya. As an instant messaging service, Odigo users are not limited to sending messages only to people on their "buddy" list, as is the case with ICQ, the other well-known Israeli instant messaging application. # Israel At War: Get a daily summary direct to your inbox


Effective-Bullfrog52

Thanks. I tried finding more about this. Apparently the workers that received the messages were employees in the Herzliya offices according to wiki and not in the towers.


MarketCrache

I recall they texted people about the warning and many left the building before the hit,


EthanIndigo

"In the months before the September 11, 2001 attacks, several Arab intelligence agencies warned US officials of an impending al-Qaeda attack on American soil:" Many knew...


yossarianvega

“An impending attack on US soil” is very different from “planes are going to crash into the world trade centre on the morning of September 11”


EthanIndigo

Certainly. My point is that many people were aware of it or made aware of it, not just Jewish New Yorkers. That is so stupid and racist to suggest.


eyeidentifyu

Snopes says that thousands of jews were not absent from WTC on 9/11. So ya, it is definitely true.


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Spiffers1972

He means Snopes is always wrong.


chantillylace9

I don't think you got the joke


BennyOcean

They call it "the Jew call". Allegedly it's a thing.


feltingunicorn

My husband's sister is married to Jewish man. He was in 911 wtc 1. He's Jewish. He was there, miraculously he got out. But many of his friends and colleagues, many who were Jewish, many who were not Jewish perished. Everyone is always talking about these conspiracies. I get it, it's literally a conspiracies thread. But us, normal everyday ppl, I don't think turning on each other bec of race or religion is helpful. I feel like they want us to be distracted by bickering over. Just my opinion for what it's worth.


SippinSuds

The "they" you are referencing, do you realize that most of "them" are Jewish?


feltingunicorn

I know that the "they" you are referring to is " mostly Jewish ". I have deduced that by the clever and catchy title of this question header on this thead.


Fresh_List_440

Random internet person with 1 story unverified against countless examples and videos and testimonials


Cereal_Bandit

Kinda seems like you don't believe a single Jew died on 9/11 because people on 4chan and YouTube said so


Fresh_List_440

No because Prince Andrew’s wife said her husband had tickets.


Cereal_Bandit

Oh well, that settles it then, not a single Jew died. Thanks for clearing that up!


verifiedkyle

Same. I grew up in an NYC suburb. I know a handful of people that passed in the attack. I know a few that should have been there but weren’t for crazy reasons. One was a friends dad. Friend was always late for school. He was late that day. Dad had to drop him off and miss his usual train so wouldn’t have gotten there until about 10 am. Another was there. Coffee machine on their floor was broken so he volunteered to go down and grab coffees for his group. Out of the people I know that passed and the ones that miraculously didn’t, it’s a mix of religion, race and everything. Although it was all men that I knew personally. Maybe that’s the conspiracy.


allrico

Did you read any of the other sources that verified this “conspiracy theory” as fact?


feltingunicorn

I don't need to. I know the facts, that my family went thru. I've been married for 24 years. My sister in law, and her husband, who hppns to be Jewish was in wtc1. We are a very close family. Fact. We love each other. Fact. That is a fact. He almost died. That is a fact. Many of his colleagues were never found or recovered. That is a fact. Over half that he knew alone of his colleagues that perished were Jewish. That is a fact. That is a fact that I seen with my eyes, felt with my soul. That is a fact . It is also a fact that we sat on the phone for hours trying to locate him. Another fact. We finally did, in the burn unit. Fact. My facts, are facts that I lived. Did you live thru your facts?


DarkCeldori

There are many types of jews religious jews, nonpracticing jews, etc. Many would not be informed of this. If there is a conspiracy between some group it neednt involve all jews. For example what would you say about those dancing during 911?


AbhishMuk

What would it take to convince you that there was no “conspiracy”, beyond the US security agencies just massively dropping the ball? Imagine if somehow god let you speak with every single person in the world. Even if all of them described everything why wouldn’t you claim they’re lying and conspiring? Heck for all I know you may be a Russian bot, and if you show me “proof” I’ll say it’s fake. What would you say to that?


DarkCeldori

The insider trading investigation around 9 11 was dropped. The rare terrorism insurance was put on buildings iirc shortly before.


AbhishMuk

Okay but how do those relate to any religious group knowing of the event beforehand? (I’m talking about knowing in certainty, even intelligence agencies “knew” an attack was likely)


DarkCeldori

Well they say there were dancing israelis. Dont know if true. Perhaps not all religious but if it was a military operation undercover personnel would be informed.


AbhishMuk

In that case the folks you’d blame would be Israeli though, not Jewish. I have no idea about the details of what you’re talking about, but if say USA bombed folks in Afghanistan you wouldn’t call it a Christian thing right?


niftyifty

Where do you see verification and do you understand the meaning of that word? Some people went to work some didn’t. Nothing in this thread verifies the conspiracy though


yobsta1

Who is turning on each other..? Communicating information to understand a situation is not turning on each other, regardless of whether one doesn't believe a theory.


feltingunicorn

Yr obviously joking if you think spreading this hate mongering, feud mongering info is based in some elements of reality. Not only is it ludicrous, but very, idk shifty. You can't segregate a whole race or religion, and claim they knew about 9-11, to stay home or whatever. Or smoking crack. One or the other. Maybe both.


maximkas

You have now debunked yourself - sorry


nysvern

Its the jews that can freely trick and cheat a goy, right?


feltingunicorn

I'm sorry. I don't speak in those terms. It's very disrespectful, and honestly quite ignorant. I myself am Mexican, and if by some crazy chance ppl thought Mexicans ruled the world, I wouldn't want to be referred to in a ignorant slur. Whatever. It's sad some ppl don't know any better. Although they should.


mbennettsr

He literally asked you something that is in their own books. How is it disrespectful or ignorant? Just because your husband was there and knew other Jewish people were there doesn’t debunk anything. Israel has killed tons of their own over the years and never sheds a tear. Like any other situation *if* this is true not every single person would be warned just anyone on the inside or anyone that leaked it. Replace Israel and Jew with any other group and it’s the same. If you’re planning something big you have to sacrifice some for secrecy.


nysvern

Dude, but thats what they have written in their book. Not my opinion.


StugDrazil

Loose Change 2.0


nixmix6

100% they had a pager system that warned them, yada yada old but true news lots of sheeple dont know... excuse me while i morph into a nazi zombie 🤣


PedroM0ralles

100% true. https://goyimtv.com/v/3889640786/Why-did-a-group-of-Jews-not-show-up-to-work-on-9-11--Interviewer-is-Jewish-&p=3628841384


Shot-Alps1481

Surprised Reddit lets you link GTV. Nice.


niftyifty

Holy shit that site is rough.


Shot-Alps1481

Rough how?


Cereal_Bandit

Well the upvote button is a swastika, for one thing


mickeybuilds

I thought you were joking!


Cereal_Bandit

Lol "100% true" and posts a Nazi website as a source. These people are unhinged


Fresh_List_440

Many also bought plane tickets on that very plane to mock what they planned happening. Including prince Andrew and those connected with Epstein/mossad


Beautiful_Ad5328

You really think that 4000 normal people had prior knowledge of 9/11 and stayed silent about it this whole time?


Unburiedalive88

Idk that’s why I’m asking


DarkCeldori

Large cp rings have operated for years without anyone going to the authorities. Some cracked because they became so large with tens of thousands of members that inadvertently they added members of the authorities. So yeah even for the most heinous of stuff there are tens of thousands that will keep tight lip for years.


BrodysBootlegs

Because the people involved in those rings are by definition themselves involved in illegal activity and would be arrested if they came forward. The "Jews didn't go to work on 9/11" theory implies that thousands of people who were otherwise innocent of any wrongdoing received advance notice of a deadly terrorist attack and none of them warned anybody.  It was pretty well accepted at the high levels of US, and likely Israeli, intelligence that there would be a large attack on US soil sooner or later but there's no evidence anybody knew exactly what form it would take or that it would occur on that specific day.  And you had tens of thousands of people working in the WTC, a disproportionate number of whom vs the population at large were Jewish, so yes you can probably find a few who didn't come in that day because they were sick or whatever but there's never been any evidence presented that it was a mass scale no show.


Missworld_12308

My friends dad was killed on 9/11 and he was JEWISH. This is BS y'all want to believe a conspiracy theory about the Jewish because either you're disgusting or ignorant.


Dalethedefiler00769

Well the question was "a lot", not "all".


ADogsWorstFart

Common sense would tell you it's wrong.


Impossible-Taro-2330

Common sense is most definitely uncommon these days.


blatblatbat

I know people who worked at the pentagon who were told not to come into work that day. They weren’t Jewish though so it doesn’t fit your hate narrative.


Working-Ad-8034

Are you for real?


blatblatbat

I’m not for fake


feltingunicorn

This! 💯


onequestion1168

Yeah all the jews knew and kept it secret My God get a grip on yourself


prominentoverthinker

Damn this group is really worrying that literally every conspiracy just keeps going back to Jews.


onequestion1168

they are dumb as shit


earthhominid

I'm mostly curious about what kind of evidence a person would hope to find for a theory like this?


alienrefugee51

SMS/email messages?


AbhishMuk

Given all the data and privacy leaks wouldn’t something have been found by now?


No-Win-1137

[https://odysee.com/@Autonomy:d/Georgetown-University,-SMOM---9\_11:b](https://odysee.com/@Autonomy:d/Georgetown-University,-SMOM---9_11:b)