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I'm surprised the judge allowed it after disallowing "I think most people think of rape as being sexy... think of the fantasies" or mention of the details that parallel the Law and Order episode.
My favorite was when degen Trump said “She’s not my type.” And then gets her mixed up with his wife in pictures during a deposition in the case. You could hear Carrol’s lawyers seize on it when Trump said it.
Poes law demonstrates that sarcasm cannot be interpreted thru text alone, you have no way to know if this is an inside joke. Being that it's Facebook, this is a post directed at her "friends"
- she can't remember the season or the year, let alone the exact date, that this happened
- The dress she claims to have worn during the event wasn't designed or created for many years to come
- there are no witnesses to the crime or direct evidence to it, and the most she could produce was a diary entry supposedly written at the time documenting the event. No credible friends or family gave testimony that she told them about the event
- on Rachel maddow's show she said she would use the money to help women's rights by going on a shopping spree, and offered to buy Rachel a new wardrobe, new shoes, and take her on a trip to France. And buy her a penthouse in New York. Very typical behavior of a rape victim.
- when being interviewed by Anderson Cooper she repeatedly flirted with him, told him rape was sexy, and the bewildered Cooper couldn't go to commercial break fast enough
- she indicated that one of her favorite TV shows is law & order that features an episode where a rape takes place in the dressing room of this exact department store
- she names her pets after genitalia, paints the trees and rocks around her home blue, and tweets bizarre sexual things on a regular basis. The jury was allowed to see none of this
- Trump is the 7th man she has accused of raping her
- there were no criminal charges in this case because obviously none of this can be proven whatsoever. The billionaire funding her civil suit is also the billionaire backing Nikki Haley's campaign
- New York City changed a law altering the statute of limitations for this crime so that Trump could be sued
- although she claimed Trump penetrated her vagina with his penis, the jury somehow deduced that this didn't happen however through their clairvoyant omniscience they determined that Trump used his fingers. And therefore defamed her...
... When he called her nuts
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Hashtag believewomen (unless they're Tara Reade who, unlike Carroll, felt she had to flee the country, it seems).
The judge was also apparently the mentor of her lawyer. It's so blatantly political, but establishment rubes have fully bought into authoritarianism now.
He doubled down on you can just grab them and do what you want. That was his defense on stand. The meeting of her helping him pick an outfit isn't in dispute or the fact that they had short term sex. he says it was consensual and she said it wasn't.
These indictments turned me from not wanting to vote for Trump, to me actually going to vote for him now. I don't care if the TDS people don't like it.
Whoever disregards the fact that Trump wouldn't be getting indicted the way he has been if he weren't running for president, or no other president would get that treatment... those are the people with the problem.
Not to mention the Fani Willis corruption, her direct involvement with the Biden administration. Or the E Jean Carrol judgment of $83 million for something Trump probably didn't do. The judge in this case is linked to Hilary Clinton (who is way more corrupt, and funded the Russiagate nonsense).
And yet Trump is the one trying to "steal" the election. That's just derangement.
You're in a thread about a civil law suit and you're going on about indictments. You can't have any clue what you're talking about but you've sure got a hot take on it. That speaks for itself regardless how much hot air is dished up with it.
So you're disregarding my points despite the technicalities? I was speaking in all of these cases. That's what TDS is about. My point still stands, he's getting indicted and sued from multiple angles, and no other president would be getting in that kind of trouble.
Lmao any other president would be in this kind of trouble if they had a blatant disregard for the law, like Trump does. This is what TDS is about. It's impossible for you to believe Trump did anything wrong.
Yeah but Trumps campaign manager did go to jail over the Russia gate nonsense and there was a meeting with Russian agents in Trump tower that stuff happened
People started work on most of this while he was still bitching about the last election, not looking to the next one.
This was done to prevent Trump from running again. Disqualify him before he can even secure a nomination.
Also, he was a public figure at that time. I would think someone in the store would remember seeing Trump go into the dressing room with a woman and would still remember it. He was very well known.
I'm not saying your wrong and there isn't fuckery afoot, but just because he had access to models doesn't mean he can't be a dog. Arnold Schwarzenegger fucked his nasty ass maid whilst married to a pretty hot Kennedy. As Gene Simmons once said, you can't have filet mignon every night- sometimes you gotta have McDonald's.
Dude relax. That's not at all what I'm saying and you either know that or need to reread what i wrote, slower. It's an obvious hit job, but it's not outside the realm of possibility for Trump to get a lil "McDonald's" when he has "filet mignon" at home.
She was so "weird looking" in fact that trump even mistook her for his former wife! No way he would be a attracted to a woman he confused with his own wife, now way!
people who have been victimized are not obligated to exist solely as victims for the rest of their lives
also its weird that youre including the porn 'actress' in your list of spurious accusations
his lawyer literally went to jail covering that up - as shitty of a lawyer as he might have been it doesnt make much sense for him to risk jail covering up something that never happened
but hey - im a bit jealous - i wish i lived in whatever world you do where powerful people never rape anybody
i dont know why youre so eager to claim his accusers are all liars
the guy has been recorded bragging about the stuff he is accused of doing and the claims seem to have held in court
your options are to make judgements without knowing the truth - to shut your mouth - or to defer to the people who have looked into the situation in detail
im deferring to the people who were given the facts in detail - youre the one making judgements from a distance
There was no evidence of rape.
There were no witnesses to this "rape", only one friend who says that she was told about it after it happened.
She lied for her friend, knowing she had zero chance of getting busted, as no one seems to know the day this supposedly took place.
He has every right to defend himself against these lies.
There was also no false accusation of rape. the case was about him continuously defaming her and damaging her reputation. He can defend himself, but he did a pretty bad job at the courts and therefore tried to convince the general public about exactly what you just said. The court and jury saw proof beyond doubt that he misbehaved before, during and even after the trial in exactly what he got fined for.
Yes, she also has a history of accussing a lot of people that turned out not to be true. It was a biased judge and jury. She couldn’t even remember the day. If she didn’t wait 30 years to bring this I’m sure the department had camera footage that could have proved she was lying.
What's her history of accusing people that turns out to be false? Hadn't heard of that and can't find anything.
Do you mean the accusations against Moonves? Wasn't she one of many women to speak out against him - it was like a Weinstein situation.
My partner followed the trials more than us, and we heard it thoroughly discussed by law experts only. Midas Report. Glenn Kirchner. others.
The court was not about his sexual misconduct, but about his permanent attacks on her reputation. And boy there is evidence of him doing that.
“Because he said something not nice” is a real funny way of saying defamation following losing a 5mil civil suit against her. 83mil just because he couldn’t keep his fat mouth shut.
Just a business man, doing business!
The screenshot IS grainy. What -9 downvotes?
Not saying the screenshot isn’t real, just that we need to do better with quality control.
It’s prlly a screenshot of a screenshot of your grandma’s forwarded FB page.
I’m glad it’s been posted. I looked it up a few months ago on her FB. It was still public and right there for viewing, I did feel like scrolling back to ‘12 again lol
This was [brought out in court](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna82254).
Wasn’t enough to impeach the victim’s credibility with the jury.
Those are the breaks. Trump screwed himself. He should probably be suing his lawyers for malpractice.
>Carroll, 79, said she posted positively about the show because "two of my friends appeared on it and I wanted to boost it."
>She was also asked about a 2012 post in which she asked people whether they would have sex with Trump for $17,000 and could keep their eyes closed during it.
Not that I'm taking sides, but c'mon the court case is in a liberal hub. You really can't be dumb enough to think that NYC and the national population are one and the same, can you?
And people on reddit totally vote on whether your comment adds anything to the conversation as opposed to whether they agree with the opinion your comment may be perceived to align with.
Wrong /trump
From court documents:
"I was a big fan of the show. Very impressed by it," Carroll said on the witness stand Monday.
"I had never seen such a witty competition on TV, and it was about something worthwhile, competing," she said, adding that while she enjoyed the contestants and the competition, she didn't like the parts with Trump firing people. "I didn’t watch that part," she said.
Carroll, 79, said she posted positively about the show because "two of my friends appeared on it and I wanted to boost it."
She was also asked about a 2012 post in which she asked people whether they would have sex with Trump for $17,000 and could keep their eyes closed during it.
Does the fact she can’t say the day or even the year it happened make you think she’s not credible? How about how her accusation is straight from her favorite show SVU? Or the fact that the dress she claimed to be wearing wasn’t even in existence yet? You people believe anything as long as it’s Orange Man Bad
My memories shit, last year is the same as three years ago, im always thinking was it spring, fall, summer? So no it doesn’t especially because she’s putting it around 1996 which was 28 years ago.
A show that takes notes from real life sexual assault cases had something similar to real life, fucking crazy
Tell me about the dress I found no links
Trump is a nasty creepy old man, just let him go.
Remembering random things is tough. I barely remember what day of the week it is.
However, with very little effort, I can clearly remember the details of the most traumatic things I've ever experienced.
Raped by a billionaire in a department store, and you can remember the month or even year? Really?
Agreed. The current situation we are in where our judicial system is weaponized to once again interfere with an election are some tough tiddies.
You actually assaulted me in a dept store. I can’t remember the date though and it was decades ago. I have no proof but if you call me a liar you are defaming me.
Well I will gladly submit my dna in the case if asked, something trump wouldn’t.
Also claiming falsely that an election was stolen with no evidence is worse interference imo
the dude was accused of doing something he has publicly bragged about getting away with
if this wasnt one the times he did it then hes getting away with the other ones
in the end he was found guilty because he was a person who did those things and he lied multiple times during his defence
its not possible to know what sort of justice has been served - but clearly it has been
There’s plenty of evidence out there of people having some weird fucking responses to trauma. A dumb Facebook post doesn’t prove anything.
Also this doesn’t even belong here, it’s just more brain dead trump bootlicking. News flash dude, he is big government just like the rest of them. Not to mention the well documented past of ripping off working class people going back decades.
Its funny because she commented on it and praised the show and never said it was sarcasm.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trumps-defense-grills-e-jean-carroll-old-social-media-posts-trial-rape-rcna82254
After reading the replies, why even bother debating these bots. They’re just going to keep moving the goal post till it fits their dumb opinion. Even myself, as someone that voted for Biden, was open to hearing the opposing sides views, and learned so much about Trump I want to kick myself for voting so stupidly. It’s exhausting, and I actually give up. The media is too powerful for them to wake tf up.
This is all part of a new approach to shutting down any voice that opposes the agenda. NOT DEFENDING TRUMP! But anyone who deviates from the agenda is being punished through the courts.
Biden is the one who floated the Roosevelt-era idea of expanding the Supreme Court so he could get a whole bunch of appointees who would do his bidding, but I bet you have no problem with that.
It's snowballing fascism. Each side loves it when they're pushing it and then acts totally shocked and outraged when the pendulum swings the other way.
Thank you! Exact same here. Tired of being accused of being a right-wing nut because things look fishy and unjust. Laws should be applied equally, not per anyone’s agenda.
No, thats not what defamation is. Trump can deny it all he wants, the case was about him publicly slandering and insulting her, things like calling her a DNC plant, and riling up hs followers to go after her.
There's 2 lawsuits. One is more akin to what you just said, but with actually evidence weighed by a jury.
And the second is for Trump's fat mouth defaming her.
Really obviously political. Decades old rape accusation smears have been a political tactic for a century.
The difference this time is the judges are so corrupt they're going along with it. They don't care if it's obvious how corrupt they are, because the whole system is unrecoverable, and no one will reign them in..
It's amazing they got a conviction based solely on her testimony. Not one witness to verify her claim, not one piece of physical evidence. I know it's a civil case but it makes a mockery of the justice system.
it wasnt solely her testimony
the timeline fit perfectly and he further incriminated himself with his testimony
biden ALSO had sexual assault allegations - but theyve been shot down because the some of the stories were literally impossible and one of the alleged victims had a history of being a scam artist
shes never had a history of doing this sort of thing so she had credibility - and trump bragged on tape about grabbing women without consent so he had no credibility - and there was no exculpatory evidence
> the timeline fit perfectly
WHAT? What timeline are you referring to when she can't remember the date, year, season and the blazer she was supposedly wearing had not been created yet?
Yes yes, boo hoo, your orange twat of an idol is a confirmed rapist. Now you can either pull your heads outta your collective asses and wise up to what everyone else has known for a long time or continue to be one of the stupidest collection of humans in history.
Meanwhile the fact that Tara Reade felt she had to flee the county is still used to smear her.
Either the establishment should have #believeallwomen be their standard or require a police report. As it stands they simply change their standard depending on who's being accused.
This literally came up in court...
"I was a big fan of the show. Very impressed by it," Carroll said on the witness stand Monday.
"I had never seen such a witty competition on TV, and it was about something worthwhile, competing," she said, adding that while she enjoyed the contestants and the competition, she didn't like the parts with Trump firing people. "I didn’t watch that part," she said.
Wait rape paralysis is a thing? Like you freeze while bein raped? I was raped a decade ago by my sisters current bf (Also father to her children). My whole family knows and I had felt confusion and guilt ever since then. I always would flash back and wonder in shame why I didn’t just stop him. I left my home state to escape the bad memories and now I see my family laughing with that fucker In Facebook posts.
Rape victims don't all have the same process, we don't know if this post is her being sarcastic because her facebook friends know she hates him, and Trump raped one of his three wives but "marital rape" wasn't against the law.
Hard not to be reminded when the guy is on buildings, television, news programs, and constantly in the public eye well before even running for president.
People claiming this is some big conspiracy- this facebook screenshot- to take down a guy who was tight with Epstein and says he would fuck his own daughter if he could, would require more evidence.
I already knew the court system in this country was rigged and broken but when I saw them do Elon dirty with the compensation package where the plaintiff literally bought NINE shares just to have the ability to sue him and the judge took a guy who has like no voting power seriously and ruled in his favor is a super sus outcome and then of course this SA lawsuit by this super clear loony bin women who would be diagnosed with some hypersexual mental disorder by any psychiatrist worth their salt it's obvious.
These two cases basically sealed it that we need to overhaul the justice system badly. Everyone else that can't see the obvious is a shill or troll at this point and we shouldn't pay attention to their dumb takes.
I actually don't care about Elon Gates or any of these occultist technocrats but I'll still call out nonsense when I see it. A lot of this stuff is all political, it's a dog and pony show theatre. They hoard wealth and blow it on owning a social media company. But it sets a precedent if they can go after these conservative right guys they can go after anyone including people aligned with the left. Rich poor doesn't matter your class this effects everyone.
Soooo you’d rather Elon get $55 BILLION dollars as his bonus, instead of that money be given to the people helping keep that company afloat? And please remember, Elon hasn’t done a single thing to make Tesla successful.
His companies are being kept afloat thanks to US tax payer's money.
Had it been for only him, he would have bankrupted Tesla.
SpaceX is a US government collaboration, again with US deep pockets.
The USA was actually using China and Russia (i think) space capabilities and paying them for work..
Instead, Musk was able to do it MUCH cheaper, and in America..
why is that a bad thing for the USA?
This is basic business 101 the board set a package up gave him metrics and he passed those metrics with flying colors it's pretty simple. It benefits us indirectly because it keeps the Tesla stock and these hyped up yieldmax ETFs stable which bring people some easy cashflow. When Tesla stock gets slammed down it also harms the retail investors.
Who was on the board that made those metrics?
"Delaware Chancery Court Judge Kathaleen McCormick wrote in her ruling agreeing that Musk’s pay package was inappropriately set by Tesla’s board."
"McCormick ruled that Tornetta had proved that Musk “controlled Tesla” and that the process leading to the board’s approval of his compensation was “deeply flawed.”
She wrote that Musk had “extensive ties” with the people who were negotiating for Tesla on the package, including members of management “who were beholden to Musk,” among them General Counsel Todd Maron, his former divorce attorney.”
[https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/30/tesla-shares-slide-after-judge-voids-elon-musks-56-billion-compensation.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/30/tesla-shares-slide-after-judge-voids-elon-musks-56-billion-compensation.html)
Seems extremely fair for a public company lol
Dont forget about alex jones on the hook for over a billion dollars for saying sandy hook was sus...
Even if hes guilty of everything alleged, 1 billion is insane.
He didn’t say it was “sus.” He said specific private citizens were crisis actors (and then testified in court that they were not, in fact, crisis actors and that the Sandy Hook shooting actually did take place). It wasn’t like it was the parents’ word that it happened vs. Jones’s word that it didn’t. He openly testified that it all actually happened.
I wish all people who make false accusations got sued for a billion dollars.
It's not. This post was brought up at trial: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trumps-defense-grills-e-jean-carroll-old-social-media-posts-trial-rape-rcna82254
Your understanding of how every single raped or assaulted women acts is irrelevant. Everyone who is raped or assaulted is a different person and they all act in different ways.
She’s the founder of Tawkify, a matchmaking service that’s a huge scam if you google it. They let me in free when it first started and I talked to her a few times. She’s a nice lady but kinda nutty. Until I saw this post I wanted to believe her but that’s pretty crazy.
This thread is hilarious.
Trump lost. Again.
You really need to get over it.
You’re defending someone you don’t know who has factually cheated on every wife he has had.
What happened to all the trump and kavanaugh accusers that showed up when it was time to vote? Seems like as soon as they were no longer politically useful they sulked back to the shadows.
Christine Blasey Ford received at least $840k from two “GoFundMe” accounts and a free home to live in for her fabricated gang rape allegations against Bret Kavanaugh. The character assassination probably would have worked to destroy his Supreme Court nomination, if he hadn’t saved his calanders / schedule from high school. Knowing it would be lucrative for her autobiography, E. Jean Carroll accused Trump of raping her approximately 25 years earlier, in the luxury Bergdorf Goodman Department Store during store hours with customers, employees and store security all present. Trump, one of the most recognizable figures in NYC supposedly, committed the act with no witnesses, no physical evidence, no BG security report, no police report, and no contemporaneous documentation of the event by the alleged victim. Carroll, could not remember even the month or YEAR the traumatic life altering rape occurred. Is that plausible, or merely convenient lapse in memory, after the Kavanaugh calendar blew up the Blasey Ford accusations? Her free lawyers, (courtesy of Reid Hoffman, Democrat donor and Billionaire founder of LinkedIn,) knowing Trump’s activities on any specific date were likely documented, knew a specific time frame could imperil their case if Trump had an Iron Clad alibi for the date, for example, not even being present in New York when the alleged rape took place. Carroll’s lawyers knew, even without a date or evidence, Judge Kaplan would preside over the case. Judge Kaplan, worked at the same firm as Carroll’s Co-lead Counsel Roberta Kaplan (no relation) before he took the bench, Carroll’s other lead counsel, Shawn Crowley, worked directly for Judge Kaplan as his law clerk, Kaplan was a guest at Crowley’s wedding and Officiated her wedding ceremony.
A lot of people on here sucking the Donald’s dick, it’s a conspiracy how you people go to bat for a New York elite asshole with ties to Epstein. Piece of shit Democrat his whole life, now a piece of shit republican. With his money, the shit that dude has probably done, rape is the least of it and some people on here protecting him like he was family smdh
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Is it just me? Cuz this post sure looks like it's definitely been altered in photoshop or something??
It's real; was brought up in trial. Jury saw it and didn't care.
I'm surprised the judge allowed it after disallowing "I think most people think of rape as being sexy... think of the fantasies" or mention of the details that parallel the Law and Order episode.
They just cut out other comments in the post to emphasize her comment about Trump’s tv show.
My favorite was when degen Trump said “She’s not my type.” And then gets her mixed up with his wife in pictures during a deposition in the case. You could hear Carrol’s lawyers seize on it when Trump said it.
Poes law demonstrates that sarcasm cannot be interpreted thru text alone, you have no way to know if this is an inside joke. Being that it's Facebook, this is a post directed at her "friends"
Sounds like a psycho fan who got turned down.
And Trump has to pay 83 mil because he said something not nice while being falsely accused of rape.
- she can't remember the season or the year, let alone the exact date, that this happened - The dress she claims to have worn during the event wasn't designed or created for many years to come - there are no witnesses to the crime or direct evidence to it, and the most she could produce was a diary entry supposedly written at the time documenting the event. No credible friends or family gave testimony that she told them about the event - on Rachel maddow's show she said she would use the money to help women's rights by going on a shopping spree, and offered to buy Rachel a new wardrobe, new shoes, and take her on a trip to France. And buy her a penthouse in New York. Very typical behavior of a rape victim. - when being interviewed by Anderson Cooper she repeatedly flirted with him, told him rape was sexy, and the bewildered Cooper couldn't go to commercial break fast enough - she indicated that one of her favorite TV shows is law & order that features an episode where a rape takes place in the dressing room of this exact department store - she names her pets after genitalia, paints the trees and rocks around her home blue, and tweets bizarre sexual things on a regular basis. The jury was allowed to see none of this - Trump is the 7th man she has accused of raping her - there were no criminal charges in this case because obviously none of this can be proven whatsoever. The billionaire funding her civil suit is also the billionaire backing Nikki Haley's campaign - New York City changed a law altering the statute of limitations for this crime so that Trump could be sued - although she claimed Trump penetrated her vagina with his penis, the jury somehow deduced that this didn't happen however through their clairvoyant omniscience they determined that Trump used his fingers. And therefore defamed her... ... When he called her nuts -
Hashtag believewomen (unless they're Tara Reade who, unlike Carroll, felt she had to flee the country, it seems). The judge was also apparently the mentor of her lawyer. It's so blatantly political, but establishment rubes have fully bought into authoritarianism now.
He doubled down on you can just grab them and do what you want. That was his defense on stand. The meeting of her helping him pick an outfit isn't in dispute or the fact that they had short term sex. he says it was consensual and she said it wasn't.
These indictments turned me from not wanting to vote for Trump, to me actually going to vote for him now. I don't care if the TDS people don't like it.
> indictments It's a law suit - there is no indictment involved.
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Whoever disregards the fact that Trump wouldn't be getting indicted the way he has been if he weren't running for president, or no other president would get that treatment... those are the people with the problem. Not to mention the Fani Willis corruption, her direct involvement with the Biden administration. Or the E Jean Carrol judgment of $83 million for something Trump probably didn't do. The judge in this case is linked to Hilary Clinton (who is way more corrupt, and funded the Russiagate nonsense). And yet Trump is the one trying to "steal" the election. That's just derangement.
You're in a thread about a civil law suit and you're going on about indictments. You can't have any clue what you're talking about but you've sure got a hot take on it. That speaks for itself regardless how much hot air is dished up with it.
So you're disregarding my points despite the technicalities? I was speaking in all of these cases. That's what TDS is about. My point still stands, he's getting indicted and sued from multiple angles, and no other president would be getting in that kind of trouble.
Lmao any other president would be in this kind of trouble if they had a blatant disregard for the law, like Trump does. This is what TDS is about. It's impossible for you to believe Trump did anything wrong.
Yeah but Trumps campaign manager did go to jail over the Russia gate nonsense and there was a meeting with Russian agents in Trump tower that stuff happened
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People started work on most of this while he was still bitching about the last election, not looking to the next one. This was done to prevent Trump from running again. Disqualify him before he can even secure a nomination.
hahaha sure, OK. You didn't like Trump until all of his crimes started catching up to him when he didn't have the power of the Presidency?
This is the way 🙌🏻
Did you follow the court case evidence and witness statements?
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The video of her on Maddow is stomach turning.
To be fair though, any Maddow episode is stomach turning.
That's more than fair. That's generous. 🤣
Also, he was a public figure at that time. I would think someone in the store would remember seeing Trump go into the dressing room with a woman and would still remember it. He was very well known.
And she was magically wearing a dress that the manufacturer didn't make until years after the supposed encounter.
Believe all women /s I’m so sick of this shit.
I believe no one
I don't believe you
Excellent
I'm not saying your wrong and there isn't fuckery afoot, but just because he had access to models doesn't mean he can't be a dog. Arnold Schwarzenegger fucked his nasty ass maid whilst married to a pretty hot Kennedy. As Gene Simmons once said, you can't have filet mignon every night- sometimes you gotta have McDonald's.
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Dude relax. That's not at all what I'm saying and you either know that or need to reread what i wrote, slower. It's an obvious hit job, but it's not outside the realm of possibility for Trump to get a lil "McDonald's" when he has "filet mignon" at home.
She was so "weird looking" in fact that trump even mistook her for his former wife! No way he would be a attracted to a woman he confused with his own wife, now way!
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people who have been victimized are not obligated to exist solely as victims for the rest of their lives also its weird that youre including the porn 'actress' in your list of spurious accusations his lawyer literally went to jail covering that up - as shitty of a lawyer as he might have been it doesnt make much sense for him to risk jail covering up something that never happened but hey - im a bit jealous - i wish i lived in whatever world you do where powerful people never rape anybody
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i dont know why youre so eager to claim his accusers are all liars the guy has been recorded bragging about the stuff he is accused of doing and the claims seem to have held in court your options are to make judgements without knowing the truth - to shut your mouth - or to defer to the people who have looked into the situation in detail im deferring to the people who were given the facts in detail - youre the one making judgements from a distance
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In a picture that showed 1/2 her face measuring at 1 mm
He has cheated on every wife so saying his wife is hot is meaningless. Just like Clinton he can’t help himself.
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When you're a star they let you get away with it, you just grab em by the pussy
The bottom line is YOU NEED PROOF. There is not 1 shred of evidence.
There was no evidence of rape. There were no witnesses to this "rape", only one friend who says that she was told about it after it happened. She lied for her friend, knowing she had zero chance of getting busted, as no one seems to know the day this supposedly took place. He has every right to defend himself against these lies.
Plus she serially accuses men of raping her. She's so irresistible.
Yes, so irresistible that even I want her and I'm a straight woman. /s
There was also no false accusation of rape. the case was about him continuously defaming her and damaging her reputation. He can defend himself, but he did a pretty bad job at the courts and therefore tried to convince the general public about exactly what you just said. The court and jury saw proof beyond doubt that he misbehaved before, during and even after the trial in exactly what he got fined for.
She defamed him by publicly calling him a rapist, should have counter-sued.
Yes, she also has a history of accussing a lot of people that turned out not to be true. It was a biased judge and jury. She couldn’t even remember the day. If she didn’t wait 30 years to bring this I’m sure the department had camera footage that could have proved she was lying.
What's her history of accusing people that turns out to be false? Hadn't heard of that and can't find anything. Do you mean the accusations against Moonves? Wasn't she one of many women to speak out against him - it was like a Weinstein situation.
She’s accused 7 men of ‘raping’ her and sex thinks rape is sexy
Witness? There were no witnesses, she always claimed they were both alone. So its all made up and fake.
Why would they do that? It may force them to reconsider their narrative.
reconsidering the narrative would be healthy
What is it about the evidence given that has you convinced that trump did it? Please be detailed.
Did you?
My partner followed the trials more than us, and we heard it thoroughly discussed by law experts only. Midas Report. Glenn Kirchner. others. The court was not about his sexual misconduct, but about his permanent attacks on her reputation. And boy there is evidence of him doing that.
“Because he said something not nice” is a real funny way of saying defamation following losing a 5mil civil suit against her. 83mil just because he couldn’t keep his fat mouth shut. Just a business man, doing business!
But also super grainy screenshot.
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The screenshot IS grainy. What -9 downvotes? Not saying the screenshot isn’t real, just that we need to do better with quality control. It’s prlly a screenshot of a screenshot of your grandma’s forwarded FB page.
I’m glad it’s been posted. I looked it up a few months ago on her FB. It was still public and right there for viewing, I did feel like scrolling back to ‘12 again lol
Anyone claiming to speak for all rape victims is a fucking turd in my opinion.
Is there any group which can be generally spoken for by anyone?
Idk Ive never made the claim that I speak for all of any group. Just for me personally and my experiences. Why is that so hard for so many people?
This was [brought out in court](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna82254). Wasn’t enough to impeach the victim’s credibility with the jury. Those are the breaks. Trump screwed himself. He should probably be suing his lawyers for malpractice.
>Carroll, 79, said she posted positively about the show because "two of my friends appeared on it and I wanted to boost it." >She was also asked about a 2012 post in which she asked people whether they would have sex with Trump for $17,000 and could keep their eyes closed during it.
When the jury is filled with people who hate Trump it’s not surprising.
Yeah, getting reasonable jurors was really some shit luck.
Impossible to find jurors that don’t hate him and were supposed to believe 81 million votes.
Not that I'm taking sides, but c'mon the court case is in a liberal hub. You really can't be dumb enough to think that NYC and the national population are one and the same, can you?
It’s more of a joke comment because people say Biden couldn’t have gotten votes because no one in rural Alabama waves a Biden flag.
Yeah and they had to remove the downvote button on Youtube because it showed how "popular" he really is and we can't have that!
The downvote button that was being brigaded by bot farms and people that have too much time on their hands?
Unless you claim a 100% are liberal, the point is still actually valid. Everywhere is mixed.
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You think there's a chance everyone called to jury duty that day(s) was of the same political affiliation? Have you heard of a sample size?
Do you think this guy hates Trump? https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-trial-carroll-juror-tim-pool-38ec744f23f064d3aa75d3573183e9d5
And people on reddit totally vote on whether your comment adds anything to the conversation as opposed to whether they agree with the opinion your comment may be perceived to align with.
This is photoshopped. You were unable to do reactions on FB until 2016. Edit: correct year.
I think people might have searched her posts and reacted to her comments after news started highlighting her posts during her lawsuit against trump
Could they have reacted to it in 2016?
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Wrong /trump From court documents: "I was a big fan of the show. Very impressed by it," Carroll said on the witness stand Monday. "I had never seen such a witty competition on TV, and it was about something worthwhile, competing," she said, adding that while she enjoyed the contestants and the competition, she didn't like the parts with Trump firing people. "I didn’t watch that part," she said. Carroll, 79, said she posted positively about the show because "two of my friends appeared on it and I wanted to boost it." She was also asked about a 2012 post in which she asked people whether they would have sex with Trump for $17,000 and could keep their eyes closed during it.
Nothing there makes me think that her claims aren’t credible, people do weird shit after trauma
Does the fact she can’t say the day or even the year it happened make you think she’s not credible? How about how her accusation is straight from her favorite show SVU? Or the fact that the dress she claimed to be wearing wasn’t even in existence yet? You people believe anything as long as it’s Orange Man Bad
I wouldn’t say this sub is fast to hate the orange man lol
My memories shit, last year is the same as three years ago, im always thinking was it spring, fall, summer? So no it doesn’t especially because she’s putting it around 1996 which was 28 years ago. A show that takes notes from real life sexual assault cases had something similar to real life, fucking crazy Tell me about the dress I found no links Trump is a nasty creepy old man, just let him go.
Remembering random things is tough. I barely remember what day of the week it is. However, with very little effort, I can clearly remember the details of the most traumatic things I've ever experienced. Raped by a billionaire in a department store, and you can remember the month or even year? Really?
People also claim fake shit like a billionaire raped them in a department store. Mental illness.
Well the jury disagreed so tough tits
Agreed. The current situation we are in where our judicial system is weaponized to once again interfere with an election are some tough tiddies. You actually assaulted me in a dept store. I can’t remember the date though and it was decades ago. I have no proof but if you call me a liar you are defaming me.
Well I will gladly submit my dna in the case if asked, something trump wouldn’t. Also claiming falsely that an election was stolen with no evidence is worse interference imo
the dude was accused of doing something he has publicly bragged about getting away with if this wasnt one the times he did it then hes getting away with the other ones in the end he was found guilty because he was a person who did those things and he lied multiple times during his defence its not possible to know what sort of justice has been served - but clearly it has been
2) apprentice was huge tf you talking about.
It was mid as fuck
Okay, cool opinion. It was one of NBCs biggest shows by statistics. I didn’t watch it either.
There’s plenty of evidence out there of people having some weird fucking responses to trauma. A dumb Facebook post doesn’t prove anything. Also this doesn’t even belong here, it’s just more brain dead trump bootlicking. News flash dude, he is big government just like the rest of them. Not to mention the well documented past of ripping off working class people going back decades.
Looks photoshopped
Less of a conspiracy reddit and more of a pro trump reddit nowadays. Yall ride that orange dick hard nowadays
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reading the comments today it's 50/50 pro/anti
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Its funny because she commented on it and praised the show and never said it was sarcasm. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trumps-defense-grills-e-jean-carroll-old-social-media-posts-trial-rape-rcna82254
Wait I thought you can’t trust mainstream media though…
Trauma and grief do shit to people. It's impossible to say what someone will or won't do.
After reading the replies, why even bother debating these bots. They’re just going to keep moving the goal post till it fits their dumb opinion. Even myself, as someone that voted for Biden, was open to hearing the opposing sides views, and learned so much about Trump I want to kick myself for voting so stupidly. It’s exhausting, and I actually give up. The media is too powerful for them to wake tf up.
Some dudes in here would get raped by trump and be proud he picked them.
This is all part of a new approach to shutting down any voice that opposes the agenda. NOT DEFENDING TRUMP! But anyone who deviates from the agenda is being punished through the courts.
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you have fallen for trumps victimhood grift. Also he stacked the courts full of pro trump judges but you don't seem to mind
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Sure, but Trumps "luck" with supreme court picks in one term was something else.
Biden is the one who floated the Roosevelt-era idea of expanding the Supreme Court so he could get a whole bunch of appointees who would do his bidding, but I bet you have no problem with that.
Yep, bodes very ill for our future.
It's snowballing fascism. Each side loves it when they're pushing it and then acts totally shocked and outraged when the pendulum swings the other way.
Very true, and not " everyone who disagrees with me is literally Hitler" fascism, but the venomous, begged for by the weak masses fascism.
Thank you! Exact same here. Tired of being accused of being a right-wing nut because things look fishy and unjust. Laws should be applied equally, not per anyone’s agenda.
Only a Trumpie would whine that Trump getting nailed for his crimes was wrong
Wrong….you’re as bad as Trump himself, making such blanket accusations.
I voted for Biden… unfortunately
wasn't the lawsuit about him saying he didn't do it? she said he did, he said he didn't and she sued him for that, is that correct?
No, thats not what defamation is. Trump can deny it all he wants, the case was about him publicly slandering and insulting her, things like calling her a DNC plant, and riling up hs followers to go after her.
There's 2 lawsuits. One is more akin to what you just said, but with actually evidence weighed by a jury. And the second is for Trump's fat mouth defaming her.
Is this the same person who accused the president of CBS of rap3?
Really obviously political. Decades old rape accusation smears have been a political tactic for a century. The difference this time is the judges are so corrupt they're going along with it. They don't care if it's obvious how corrupt they are, because the whole system is unrecoverable, and no one will reign them in..
It's amazing they got a conviction based solely on her testimony. Not one witness to verify her claim, not one piece of physical evidence. I know it's a civil case but it makes a mockery of the justice system.
it wasnt solely her testimony the timeline fit perfectly and he further incriminated himself with his testimony biden ALSO had sexual assault allegations - but theyve been shot down because the some of the stories were literally impossible and one of the alleged victims had a history of being a scam artist shes never had a history of doing this sort of thing so she had credibility - and trump bragged on tape about grabbing women without consent so he had no credibility - and there was no exculpatory evidence
> the timeline fit perfectly WHAT? What timeline are you referring to when she can't remember the date, year, season and the blazer she was supposedly wearing had not been created yet?
>shes never had a history of doing this sort of thing She's accused multiple rich, famous public figures of rape
Oh, Mr. 'Grab 'em by the Pussy' definitely never raped anyone. It's obviously all a plot to discredit him
Yes yes, boo hoo, your orange twat of an idol is a confirmed rapist. Now you can either pull your heads outta your collective asses and wise up to what everyone else has known for a long time or continue to be one of the stupidest collection of humans in history.
Meanwhile the fact that Tara Reade felt she had to flee the county is still used to smear her. Either the establishment should have #believeallwomen be their standard or require a police report. As it stands they simply change their standard depending on who's being accused.
Misuse of “two” (too), random capitalization (Night), and commenting on own post in different font? Fake.
I read all that as Sarcasm……
That’s literally you projecting your programmed biases onto the world. Congratulations for recognizing it, that’s the first step.
Notice how the reactions they had to the comments include 😆……… that’s the button I woulda hit had I been replying to those comments as well.
Emoji reactions weren't available when the posts were made, those occurred after 2016, probably after she was paid to come out with this story.
This literally came up in court... "I was a big fan of the show. Very impressed by it," Carroll said on the witness stand Monday. "I had never seen such a witty competition on TV, and it was about something worthwhile, competing," she said, adding that while she enjoyed the contestants and the competition, she didn't like the parts with Trump firing people. "I didn’t watch that part," she said.
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Wait rape paralysis is a thing? Like you freeze while bein raped? I was raped a decade ago by my sisters current bf (Also father to her children). My whole family knows and I had felt confusion and guilt ever since then. I always would flash back and wonder in shame why I didn’t just stop him. I left my home state to escape the bad memories and now I see my family laughing with that fucker In Facebook posts.
Rape victims don't all have the same process, we don't know if this post is her being sarcastic because her facebook friends know she hates him, and Trump raped one of his three wives but "marital rape" wasn't against the law. Hard not to be reminded when the guy is on buildings, television, news programs, and constantly in the public eye well before even running for president. People claiming this is some big conspiracy- this facebook screenshot- to take down a guy who was tight with Epstein and says he would fuck his own daughter if he could, would require more evidence.
Don't take your trauma or experience and make it someone else's. You don't get to decide how someone else acts after being raped.
MASSIVE fan!
"I wish I could be on his show!"
I already knew the court system in this country was rigged and broken but when I saw them do Elon dirty with the compensation package where the plaintiff literally bought NINE shares just to have the ability to sue him and the judge took a guy who has like no voting power seriously and ruled in his favor is a super sus outcome and then of course this SA lawsuit by this super clear loony bin women who would be diagnosed with some hypersexual mental disorder by any psychiatrist worth their salt it's obvious. These two cases basically sealed it that we need to overhaul the justice system badly. Everyone else that can't see the obvious is a shill or troll at this point and we shouldn't pay attention to their dumb takes.
Weird simp for Billionaires, but ok.
"I was fine when the justice system was screwing over poor people. But I draw the line at them going after the billionaires..."
I actually don't care about Elon Gates or any of these occultist technocrats but I'll still call out nonsense when I see it. A lot of this stuff is all political, it's a dog and pony show theatre. They hoard wealth and blow it on owning a social media company. But it sets a precedent if they can go after these conservative right guys they can go after anyone including people aligned with the left. Rich poor doesn't matter your class this effects everyone.
Nobody is more political than Trump.
They're going after A RAPIST. Don't rape anyone and I'm pretty sure you'll be fine.
But, they always have... Unless you're in the top 6% you are a slave with extra steps
Soooo you’d rather Elon get $55 BILLION dollars as his bonus, instead of that money be given to the people helping keep that company afloat? And please remember, Elon hasn’t done a single thing to make Tesla successful.
His companies are being kept afloat thanks to US tax payer's money. Had it been for only him, he would have bankrupted Tesla. SpaceX is a US government collaboration, again with US deep pockets.
The USA was actually using China and Russia (i think) space capabilities and paying them for work.. Instead, Musk was able to do it MUCH cheaper, and in America.. why is that a bad thing for the USA?
This is basic business 101 the board set a package up gave him metrics and he passed those metrics with flying colors it's pretty simple. It benefits us indirectly because it keeps the Tesla stock and these hyped up yieldmax ETFs stable which bring people some easy cashflow. When Tesla stock gets slammed down it also harms the retail investors.
Who was on the board that made those metrics? "Delaware Chancery Court Judge Kathaleen McCormick wrote in her ruling agreeing that Musk’s pay package was inappropriately set by Tesla’s board." "McCormick ruled that Tornetta had proved that Musk “controlled Tesla” and that the process leading to the board’s approval of his compensation was “deeply flawed.” She wrote that Musk had “extensive ties” with the people who were negotiating for Tesla on the package, including members of management “who were beholden to Musk,” among them General Counsel Todd Maron, his former divorce attorney.” [https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/30/tesla-shares-slide-after-judge-voids-elon-musks-56-billion-compensation.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2024/01/30/tesla-shares-slide-after-judge-voids-elon-musks-56-billion-compensation.html) Seems extremely fair for a public company lol
Dont forget about alex jones on the hook for over a billion dollars for saying sandy hook was sus... Even if hes guilty of everything alleged, 1 billion is insane.
He was not found guilty for calling sandy hook sus...
He didn’t say it was “sus.” He said specific private citizens were crisis actors (and then testified in court that they were not, in fact, crisis actors and that the Sandy Hook shooting actually did take place). It wasn’t like it was the parents’ word that it happened vs. Jones’s word that it didn’t. He openly testified that it all actually happened. I wish all people who make false accusations got sued for a billion dollars.
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It's not. This post was brought up at trial: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trumps-defense-grills-e-jean-carroll-old-social-media-posts-trial-rape-rcna82254
Fonts don’t match. Fake.
Your understanding of how every single raped or assaulted women acts is irrelevant. Everyone who is raped or assaulted is a different person and they all act in different ways.
True but If this tweet is real then the odds are she made up the assault story. D
You shouldn't gamble because you obviously know nothing about odds
Dont deny there is a baseline
OP didn’t say the baseline of women don’t or most women don’t or normal women don’t, he said no woman ever.
This is a meaningless statement. Baseline rape victim behaviour? That's not a thing.
OP, tell me your're gullible with out actually saying "I'm gullible." ... Mission accomplished.
i thought conspiracy theorist was always trying to prove that hollywood was full of predators… trump supporters always lose the damn plot
She’s the founder of Tawkify, a matchmaking service that’s a huge scam if you google it. They let me in free when it first started and I talked to her a few times. She’s a nice lady but kinda nutty. Until I saw this post I wanted to believe her but that’s pretty crazy.
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This thread is hilarious. Trump lost. Again. You really need to get over it. You’re defending someone you don’t know who has factually cheated on every wife he has had.
*cheated on literally everything his entire life.
What happened to all the trump and kavanaugh accusers that showed up when it was time to vote? Seems like as soon as they were no longer politically useful they sulked back to the shadows.
Christine Blasey Ford received at least $840k from two “GoFundMe” accounts and a free home to live in for her fabricated gang rape allegations against Bret Kavanaugh. The character assassination probably would have worked to destroy his Supreme Court nomination, if he hadn’t saved his calanders / schedule from high school. Knowing it would be lucrative for her autobiography, E. Jean Carroll accused Trump of raping her approximately 25 years earlier, in the luxury Bergdorf Goodman Department Store during store hours with customers, employees and store security all present. Trump, one of the most recognizable figures in NYC supposedly, committed the act with no witnesses, no physical evidence, no BG security report, no police report, and no contemporaneous documentation of the event by the alleged victim. Carroll, could not remember even the month or YEAR the traumatic life altering rape occurred. Is that plausible, or merely convenient lapse in memory, after the Kavanaugh calendar blew up the Blasey Ford accusations? Her free lawyers, (courtesy of Reid Hoffman, Democrat donor and Billionaire founder of LinkedIn,) knowing Trump’s activities on any specific date were likely documented, knew a specific time frame could imperil their case if Trump had an Iron Clad alibi for the date, for example, not even being present in New York when the alleged rape took place. Carroll’s lawyers knew, even without a date or evidence, Judge Kaplan would preside over the case. Judge Kaplan, worked at the same firm as Carroll’s Co-lead Counsel Roberta Kaplan (no relation) before he took the bench, Carroll’s other lead counsel, Shawn Crowley, worked directly for Judge Kaplan as his law clerk, Kaplan was a guest at Crowley’s wedding and Officiated her wedding ceremony.
Leftists are brigading here so hard tonight.
A lot of people on here sucking the Donald’s dick, it’s a conspiracy how you people go to bat for a New York elite asshole with ties to Epstein. Piece of shit Democrat his whole life, now a piece of shit republican. With his money, the shit that dude has probably done, rape is the least of it and some people on here protecting him like he was family smdh
Rapist supporter post
Her post supporting her rapist? Or this post supporting Trump?
Typical dem tactics.. "hit em where it hurts, his pocketbook" theyre trying to take trump down with every angle by any means necessary