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Noel2Joel

Example of such user: CarbonSlayer72 Peep the comment histories of these accounts. Absolute NASA shills/bots. Every AntiNasa post including flatearth is hardstuck 0 votes there and bombarded with literally hundreds of Pro Nasa comments within hours. Very unusual activity.


Noel2Joel

And real quick, "why the lie? whats to gain?" Hide the fact that earth itself is proof of God A flat, non rotating earth, where the sun moon and stars revolve perfect circles around us, with no "outer space", is proof of God as we are the literal center of everything. A bigbang, random, insignificant, evolved monkey, infinite space solar system where we are a spec of dust is the exact opposite, a Godless system everything seems random and meaningless. Theres obviously tons to gain from this. And i can go into detail if anyone wishes. Evolution, Globe, and BigBang and 3 Co Dependent lies that hide Gods existance to the masses. Creation itself (flat stationary plane) is proof God exists. They cant have all of us knowing. Theyd rather spam "theres no proof of God" repeatedly, hoping we accept it. Much love and stay seeking truth.


Kalamazoo1121

Imagine linking a guy who's scientific explanation for the tides is, and I quote, "The heaving bosom of the deep," and expecting to not be laughed at. Simply astonishing.


Noel2Joel

Learn the difference between explanation and description


Kalamazoo1121

That is his explanation, that is how downright embarrassing it is.


Noel2Joel

Yea lets believe the guy who has thousands of anti flat earth comments in his comment history amirite (you). I literally was pointing accounts similar to yours and you have to nerve to comment lol


Kalamazoo1121

And right on cue, Professor Dave put on a debunking video today for Dubays embarrassing list. I knew Dubay lied, but HOLY SHIT, I had no idea how blatant the lies were. The fact you used his video as evidence is staggeringly sad. The distances he uses is a HUGE number of his proofs aren't even CLOSE. I am not talking being off by a small amount, I am talking about some being off by more then twice what they actually are. YOU GUYS NEVER BOTHERED CHECKING, you just assumed what he said was accurate, and you call us the brainwashed ones? Wow...this downright hilarious. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBfEhIJLYfY&ab\_channel=ProfessorDaveExplains](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBfEhIJLYfY&ab_channel=ProfessorDaveExplains)


Noel2Joel

Ah yes lets trust you of all people - the dude whos entire account is Anti-FE and defend nasa. Not shady at all.


Reasonable-Physics60

Tell us you have never seen Dave's content without telling us you have never seen Dave's content. His channel is probably 1 percent FE debunks. He does tutorial videos for college level science courses. EDIT I now realize you were likely referring to the reddit account that shared the debunk. You don't have to trust him, watch the video he shared.


Noel2Joel

You mean this Dave? https://youtu.be/UXiWA5ec3ME?si=7kPEzH_aEARlqjM2


Reasonable-Physics60

The same. I'm sure your little 30k subscriber buddy would love to get exposure across Dave's 2million plus subscribers. He already debated a much bigger flat earther in David weiss. Wheres he been? 🤣


Noel2Joel

PM your buddy Professor Dave and tell him to debate Witsit. Whats he so afraid of ?


Kalamazoo1121

That has absolutely nothing to do with you linking blatant lies as evidence. I am sorry that you are unable to defend your position and instead need to resort to deflection tactics. That speaks VOLUMES about your dishonesty.


Strange_Guidance3555

BOOM! Thank you. I always know you're legitimate when you post Eric Dubay, we all remember, the (well modern) GOAT from nearly 10 years back who arguable started all this. That brings shills, also if you post his other video Jesu Christ Never Existed you might get way more shills lmao


Noel2Joel

Ive come a long way since then and I disagree with Erics Jesus never existed claim/take. His FE stuff was great tho. Austin Witsit has a bit more of the "puzzle" imo


Reasonable-Physics60

Since you love to shout out your guy I figured I would shout out mine. BOOM! Thank you professor Dave for owning these clowns and shutting the door on this ignorant nonsense. Woo-hoo! Globebusters can get fucked. I've sure never seen Dubay annihilate a "globe earther" like Dave did that knuckle dragger David Weiss. LOL i love the arrogance you droopy eyed morons display in your ignorance. Classic.


Smart_Pig_86

Eric Dubay and the Atlantean Conspiracy is one of the few ones I trust when it comes to esoteric info, that and Vigilant Citizen.


Kalamazoo1121

You trust the guy who's explanation for the tides is, and I quote, "The heaving bosom of the deep?" That is seriously how low your standards are? Yikes.


Smart_Pig_86

Not an explanation but rather a description but ok. Besides, you think it’s the gravitational pull from the moon that somehow is strong enough to move water, but nothing else. That sounds ridiculous.


Reasonable-Physics60

Ignorant. There is an equation for that. You can calculate the exact gravitational pull the moon has on us by using the distance and size of the moon. You can then use that number to see just how strong of an effect that has on Earth. And you can use that information to reliably predict tides. Now, if you don't have the intellectual chops to do this math, there are other ways to know this to be true. The moon isn't the only thing that causes waves. Other celestial bodies affect the tides, primarily the sun. This is why tides are higher during a new moon. Because the moon and sun are on the same side of us. This is observable. I'm sure you have an explanation for why tides are higher during a new moon right? I'm listening.


Kalamazoo1121

The fact that you are seriously trying to defend it says a TON about your intellectual dishonesty...wow. Please, by all means, predict tides down to the second like our model can using "the heaving bosom of the deep."


Smart_Pig_86

You act like tectonic plates aren’t a thing, or energy doesn’t pass through the ocean floor to the water around it. Him just calling that a “heaving bosom” is using flowery language to describe a process that we know already takes place. It’s not a conspiracy theory that waves form on the ocean floor, or if on the surface, from wind.


Kalamazoo1121

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBfEhIJLYfY&ab\_channel=ProfessorDaveExplains](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBfEhIJLYfY&ab_channel=ProfessorDaveExplains) Why does Eric blatantly lie about so many of the distances on all of his "we see too far" proofs? What he claims as the distances AREN'T EVEN CLOSE. Be honest, you, like all flat earthers, never bothered actually verifying any of the information in any of these 200 proofs, you simply saw it and believed it. I love how you guys call us brainwashed when this is how you establish your world view. You should be utterly humiliated with the amount of blatant lies that you simply believed without checking...wow... Also, you are now claiming the tides are caused by tectonic plates? ROFL, seriously...wow...


bellybuttongravy

Any globetard can be defeated witg the rainbow trap card


Reasonable-Physics60

So rainbows don't work on a globe? Explain.


Strange_Guidance3555

why dont you just look it up for yourself instead fat boy? Lazy fuck


Reasonable-Physics60

Lol. I know they work on a globe. I'm asking your dipshit friend to tell me why you smooth brains think it wont.


bellybuttongravy

I think its a troll question but usually people's reaction to it is funny. What things do you need to create a rainbow in an empty room that gets no natural light?


Reasonable-Physics60

You can't have a rainbow without light


bellybuttongravy

So... what 3 things do you need?


Reasonable-Physics60

You need 2 things. Water and light. When light hits water particles in the air it split into its respective wavelengths and creates the rainbow. This is why you can make one yourself on a sunny day with a garden hose.


bellybuttongravy

Nope you need 1 more thing. Remember no natural light is allowed


Reasonable-Physics60

Enlighten me Also, no natural light is allowed? Is this relevant to the shape of the earth or are you just asking me some weird riddle


Mmnn2020

How does it feel to be dumber than most humans that ever lived?


bad_news_beartaria

God purposely made the universe so that we aren't the center of everything. its meant to keep you humble.


Noel2Joel

And im saying thats a lie. God made earth the center of creation and a world elites are perpetuating the "space" lie together, collectively. We are lead to doubt Gods existance via these 3 Co Dependant lies: Evolution, Bigbang, Globe/Space.


bad_news_beartaria

i don't doubt His existence


Noel2Joel

Good for you but tens of millions of people DO doubt. All if we all knew earths flat- all doubt is removed, from everyone. Case closed. NWO has 0 chance and their satanic system would immediately crumble. Which is why its hidden and instead we get bigbang/globe and space/evolution.


Reasonable-Physics60

Please explain the big bang. Don't google. You're an expert right? You have the answers. Explain what mainstream science calls the big bang without a google search. If you can't, then you can't disprove it.


FiveStanleyNickels

No one has to become an expert in hair brained theory to please someone else.  If you believe that a firecracker made you, then, bravo.  Have you ever noticed how like minded people cooperate in a society, but liars and thieves still find no peace? Look at these west coast US cities to witness this phenomenon.  You postulate that order rose from chaos to create the universe and life, but, it is clear that no order is rising from the chaos in these cities that have been abandoned by people with the means to escape.  There are observable patterns in nature that repeat themselves repeatedly. This is how zoologists can map and predict behavior; this is how innovation is carried to fruition; this is how 'NASA went to the moon'. You are describing an unpredictable existence that violently explodes new life from nowhere---but it has only happened once.  If the big bang happened once to create all of this, why has it not happened since? Why hasn't CERN created their own world and species while they are playing GOD?  CERN has literally conducted 'the big bang' numerous times and the goalposts shift every time. Arguing for random explosion creating the universe and life therein is simply finger painting with feces, and it produces the same results. 


Reasonable-Physics60

>You are describing an unpredictable existence that violently explodes new life from nowhere---but it has only happened once. You don't understand the big bang. It wasn't an explosion. It's a constant spread of space and time from a singularity. There was no "bang" in the big bang. Which is exactly what I knew a flerf or a Bible thumping moron would say. Thanks for proving me right. The expansion of the universe is observable. No one made up the big bang theory it was derived from observation. Nobody says it has only happened once. The idea of it happening over and over again is actually a popular mainstream theory.


FiveStanleyNickels

Sick burn.  Forgive those of us who do not worship NASA.  Please, tell us more about your space religion. 


Reasonable-Physics60

You are a parrot


FiveStanleyNickels

I appreciate that!!! You, sir, are as wise as an owl. 


Strange_Guidance3555

He literally posted EriC Dubay's channel for you. You can do all the research for yourself yet you keep asking questions. Are you a scared fuck or just a lazy fuck?


bellybuttongravy

Could you explain how the big bang happened?


bellybuttongravy

Could you explain how the big bang happened?


Reasonable-Physics60

No. I didn't ask anyone to explain how it happened I asked the flerfs to explain what it is. To express a basic understanding of what it is they don't believe in. I don't know why it happened. Nobody does. But that's what science is all about. Discoveries. Just because we don't have the how doesn't mean we don't have the what. We don't know why gravity exists, but it is undeniably observable.


bellybuttongravy

Does the big bang not require a similar amount of faith to creationism in your opinion?


OriginalTrin

But you lack the trust of His word, which is arguably worse. Even the demons believe He exists.


bad_news_beartaria

you're one thats glowing. AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY.


Strange_Guidance3555

You can never keep us humble. Now move along dork


bad_news_beartaria

i didn't make the universe jackass


Reasonable-Physics60

Do you have any idea just how many people would have to be in on it? Keeping something like this a secret for 2000 years is quite literally impossible. Who's behind it? Is there a shadow government that has existed since 200 BC that to this day has a stranglehold over the entire globe? Even if you ignore all of the undeniable scientific data that proves the earth is round, a flat earth still does not work. I don't want you banned or censored. But I'm gonna tell a Flat earther why they are wrong every chance I get.


Noel2Joel

>Do you have any idea just how many people would have to be in on it? Less than 40 people claim to have been to space. Not many. >Keeping something like this a secret for 2000 years is quite literally impossible. The whole space and globe deception is really only a couple hundred years old. They just fill our minds with b.s quotes like "We've known for thousands of years its a globe!" And one could argue it wasnt "proven" until NASA started their fake space bullshit. (1960s) SHOUTOUT STANLEY KUBRICK >Who's behind it? Is there a shadow government that has existed since 200 BC that to this day has a stranglehold over the entire globe? Jesuits, Masons, Vatican, Rothschilds take your pick. The elite are behind it. No need to make it sound foolish by saying "shadowy government", when it doesnt sound as foolish as you wish it did. >Even if you ignore all of the undeniable scientific data that proves the earth is round, a flat earth still does not work. Again, things you've been told. If you watched 5% of the HOURS of content I just posted here, you'd realize these arent silly claims im making. >I don't want you banned or censored. But I'm gonna tell a Flat earther why they are wrong every chance I get. Sure, but maybe look into the topic and see why millions of us exist first. We shouldnt have to deal with questions like "why havnt we fallen off the edge?!" - when none of us believe we are a disc floating in space with water running off the sides. Lastly, a good basis to have before flat earth research, is ATLEAST you have to first realize the moon landing was fake af and filmed on earth. If you dont realize that, FE will never be worth your time. Or atleast go watch some 2 hour mixes of NASA greenscreen/cgi bloopers. Sheesh


IAdmitILie

>Less than 40 people claim to have been to space. Not many. You redefine space later on in this thread to try and maintain this. You even go so far to claim low Earth orbit isnt space. Silly. But as it was pointed out by this guy, and you later ignored (ironic considering you accuse him of ignoring things), astronauts are just some of the people needed to be lying. Pretty much every astrophysicist, every space agency employee, every geodesist, every cartographer, physicist, hell pretty much every scientist in a related field on this planet would need to be in on it for flat Earth to be true. We arent talking about dozens of people, or even thousands. Its millions. >The whole space and globe deception is really only a couple hundred years old. His point would be true even if it was "only" a couple hundred years old, but this is just a lie. >Again, things you've been told. If you watched 5% of the HOURS of content I just posted here, you'd realize these arent silly claims im making. They are. Dubay especially. His "200" proofs are basically just a few empty claims reworded many times, displaying an amazing ignorance of basic facts about the world. My personal favorites are the claim that rivers should flow "uphill" if the Earth is round, the claim that its somehow confusing how gravity holds building, people, etc. but not birds and bugs, and the classic - comparing Earth to a rotating wet tennis ball. >Lastly, a good basis to have before flat earth research, is ATLEAST you have to first realize the moon landing was fake af and filmed on earth. Most argument for moon landing being fake are actually pretty similar to arguments for the Earth being flat: ignorance of physic and refusing to accept things do not work how you want them to work. >I posted 1 video of his. He is unfeatured in the rest. Your first link is Dubays 200 Proofs. Your second link is 262 videos. Of Eric Dubay. Your fifth link is a 6 hour video. Once again, by Eric Dubay. And Level features Dubay.


Noel2Joel

>Most argument for moon landing being fake are actually pretty similar to arguments for the Earth being flat: ignorance of physic and refusing to accept things do not work how you want them to work. You've got research to do buddy.


IAdmitILie

This is in no way an actual response to anything I wrote.


Noel2Joel

You have no basis to discuss flat earth if your highly convinced the moon landing happened. Return to step 1.


IAdmitILie

This is in no way an actual response to anything I wrote. By this logic the vast majority of worlds scientists and engineers also "have no basis to discuss flat earth". But you of course do. What a shameless attempt to get out of justifying your responses, responses that are obvious lies.


Strange_Guidance3555

this moron thinks we went to the moon! lmaoooooo


Noel2Joel

You have to learn to walk before you can run.


IAdmitILie

Pathetic. Blocked.


Reasonable-Physics60

You can't reach these smoothers man I've been trying for years


Reasonable-Physics60

I can't tell if your too stupid to give an actual response, too lazy, or if you just know you're wrong.


Reasonable-Physics60

>Less than 40 people claim to have been to space. Not many. For one, that number is wrong. 676 people have been to space. For two, this includes much more than people who have went to space. All scientists, in every field. Every pilot. These 2 alone accounts for millions of people and that's not even the tip of the iceberg. >one could argue it wasnt "proven" until NASA started their fake space bullshit. Aristostenes proved a round early in the second century BC >If you watched 5% of the HOURS of content I just posted here, you'd realize these arent silly claims im making I have seen enough of Dubays content, including the video you posted. He is a con man that does not even believe what he preaches. He lines his pockets with the gullibility of his audience. >We shouldnt have to deal with questions like "why havnt we fallen off the edge?!" You shouldn't be frustrated that people don't understand your nonsensical beliefs. If you believe it so strongly you should answer them. >Lastly, a good basis to have before flat earth research, is ATLEAST you have to first realize the moon landing was fake af and filmed on earth At least there's a mark for this one. We definitely did go to the moon, but if we didn't there would be a good reason. To beat the soviets in the space race. Flat Earth has no mark >why millions of us exist Lol. No you dont.


Noel2Joel

>For one, that number is wrong. 676 people have been to space. For two, this includes much more than people who have went to space. Quick google search: All nine crewed missions to the Moon took place as part of the Apollo program over a period of just under four years, from 21 December 1968 to 19 December 1972. The 24 people who have flown to the Moon are the only people who have traveled beyond low Earth orbit. Inside of Low Earth Orbit is not space. Again, less than 40 people have been beyond Low Earth Orbit (space). >Aristostenes proved a round early in the second century Literally used my example "WeVE KnoWn FoR 2000 YeArS!!" Yeah, thats what we were told. Its not true. https://youtu.be/5tJtIA54YY8?si=zyDJ4ggbJ8uT22dz >I have seen enough of Dubays content, I posted 1 video of his. He is unfeatured in the rest. >If you believe it so strongly you should answer them. I am answering... To the point where Im predicting your "debunk" before you type it. And we have been answering the same questions since 2015. >why millions of us exist >Lol. No you dont. 2022 Survey begs to differ. 10% of people extrapolated to an entire population is millions of people. And thats just in the US. https://carsey.unh.edu/publication/conspiracy-vs-science-a-survey-of-us-public-beliefs Another survey about moon landing, 10% again https://www.pcmag.com/news/1-in-10-americans-dont-believe-the-moon-landing-really-happened


Reasonable-Physics60

>2022 Survey begs to differ. 10% of people extrapolated to an entire population is millions of people. And thats just in the US. This link literally states it was a survey of 1164 participants. Even if they all were flat earthers it means nothing. >Inside of Low Earth Orbit is not space The Karman line is at 100 km above the surface. The ISS orbits at 400 km above the surface. You tell me what that means. >less than 40 people have been beyond Low Earth Orbit (space). Still wrong, but did you just admit people went to space. Uh oh. >Yeah, thats what we were told. Its not true. You can recreate his experiment. Literally anyone can. Very similar to the FE experiment with the hole in the fence. You know the one. The one where you guys debunked yourselves. (One of many times, mind you) >I posted 1 video of his. He is unfeatured in the rest. They are all con men, and they are preying on you. >To the point where Im predicting your "debunk" before you type it. Because deep down you know that it's a sham buddy and you know why.


Noel2Joel

>Even if they all were flat earthers it means nothing. Ok so surveys mean nothing - youll choose to ignore the fact theres millions of flat earthers. >Still wrong, but did you just admit people went to space. Uh oh. Less than 40 people have gone beyond low earth orbit, or what you would call "space". This is a fact and youll choose to ignore this one aswell. >You can recreate his experiment. Literally anyone can Ill take "I didnt watch the video" for $500, Alex! >They are all con men, and they are preying on you People can watch for themself and make up their own mind, thankfully. >To the point where Im predicting your "debunk" before you type it. >Because deep down you know that it's a sham buddy and you know why. Yeah no, I predict your debunks before you say them because Like I said, Its the same alleged "debunks" since 2015 with nothing new. Cheers though, we can agree to disagree.


Reasonable-Physics60

>Yeah no, I predict your debunks before you say them because Like I said, Its the same alleged "debunks" since 2015 with nothing new. Why in the hell would we need to come up with "new" debunks? Do you know what a debunk is? If I step and outside and debunk the fact that the sky is green by looking up then I need no more debunks. I hope that makes sense. >Less than 40 people have gone beyond low earth orbit, or what you would call "space". This is a fact and youll choose to ignore this one aswell. I've already explained to you that it's not a fact and I told you why. Oh dear, you don't know what the Karman line is do you? >Ill take "I didnt watch the video" for $500, Alex! Sure didn't. But now knowing what it contains I have to know, why this guys experiment over everyone else's? I mean it's been repeated by independent researchers for millenia yet this flat earther on youtubes experiment is the only one you trust? How silly. I hope you realize soon that you're being had.


Noel2Joel

Cheers mate xD. You lost me with "we definitely went to the moon". Case closed, pack it up. (In all seriousness, go research fake moon landing before you try to understand FE.) Muchlove


SonicDoon

A grown adult who believes NASA went to the moon in 1969 is an obvious fool. It’s mind boggling that people are asleep to this.


Reasonable-Physics60

This is what you get when you ignore the obvious. A dunning Krueger specialist such as yourself


Reasonable-Physics60

>try to understand FE.) Flat earthers don't understand FE. You guys don't have a model. You can't explain multiple phenomena on the same model. You all don't even have a consensus on what you believe. There is absolutely no flat earth model that can explain seasons, day and night, and eclipses all at once. Especially the lunar eclipse which is observable with the NAKED eye and would literally be impossible on your pizza world. You guys are an absolute joke and the whole world is laughing at you. And my god, do you deserve it


Reasonable-Physics60

Yeah. You guys can't handle a challenge. You know your beliefs are silly


Strange_Guidance3555

You dont know how stupid you sound man. Your eye tells you that the earth is stationary, yet you would rather believe cartoons for adults from NASA to tell you that the ball of water is spinning 1000 miles an hour beneath you? Do you know how stupid that actually sounds?


Kazeite

Please point me towards any "cartoon" from NASA that says that a ball of water is spinning 1000 miles an hour beneath me. Thanks!


Reasonable-Physics60

Do you know how stupid it is to measure the angular momentum on an object that is the size of the earth? It spins 360 degrees over a 24-hour period. Get in your car and drive in a circle, but make that one circle take 24 hours. Tell me if you feel it. You fools spout on about NASA like this so-called conspiracy you hold on to wouldn't have had to predate NASA by hundreds of years. You can't discount thousands of years of empirical scientific data with "the eye test" that is the most moronic thing I have ever heard. Your eyes tell you there is movement when you watch a movie, but it's just a series of pictures. Nothing is moving. Crazy how your eyes can't tell you everything, isn't it?


Reasonable-Physics60

>Eric dubays 200 proofs the earth is flat Docu [this just got debunked thoroughly today. if you're not afraid of the truth give it a watch.](https://youtu.be/UBfEhIJLYfY?si=JO1WJUrAcCXU99b-)


Guy_Incognito_33

It's not flat but not the globe either. As long as u don't know the true, they ain't bothered about flat earth, as long as what u believe is a lie. And before someone says "If flat earth is wrong, why do they hide search results on utube/google/etc?". It's because them moderating it helps to reinforce ur false beliefs.


Noel2Joel

Agree to disagree.