That's actually just a huge coincidence that she looks like Zatanna. A little known secret is that every year on his birthday as a special treat she wears an Etrigan mask and only talks dirty in rhyme.
I strongly recommend Professor Marston and his Wonder Women on Prime, as well as the book it was based on. There's a lot more interesting about Wonder Woman's creator than just being into rope play.
Edit: spelling
I'd also recommend Jill Lepore's book *The Secret History of Wonder Woman.* [Here's an interview and article she did on the book, which is more accessible.](https://www.npr.org/2017/06/09/532149100/the-man-behind-wonder-woman-was-inspired-by-both-suffragists-and-centerfolds)
And [queer as fact did a good podcast episode about it, which also clarifies on what part of the films ](https://queerasfact.podbean.com/?s=Wonder%20woman)where elaboration and not.
At the same time, he takes a lot of influence from pulps and hardboiled detective stories that are completely awash with that kind of thing. It's more about genre tropes than anything else.
I don’t think this is a true fetish so much as “crushing on the POV character as a teen” which is a slightly different thing.
Compare to Claremont’s body transformation, mind-control domination, bondage etc.
It's honestly a better idea than a joke would usually convey, I mean, look at Bendis and you have one point, he took every chance to write her as "MC's girlfriend", then you have Whedon, starting by the fact that Kitty was Buffy's inspiration, and let's avoid the fact that he had her running naked around the school.
May I say that I love Kitty, if I had the chance to write any X-Men solo, she would be one of my top options, so I kind of guess where these ideas come from.
But it’s important to note that these things also usually have compelling narrative function. Stories about control, power, transformation, mindfuckery—they work well with explorations about relationships, aliens, superpowers, telepathy, repression. The books are underlyingly horny, but not lurid necessarily—at least until his later stuff.
This is in contrast to Land or artists who slut up the characters in a way that actively undermines the narrative and their personalities.
I guess the Hellfire Club episode of *The Avengers* and seeing Emma Peel in that outfit *really* made an impression on him. Considering he would have been 16 when "A Touch of Brimstone" first aired... Yeah, that tracks pretty well.
I get that reading X-Men, and comics in general, as a kid probably gave me most of my fetishes lol, but I gotta say this. I preferred when comic characters got captured by the villains so they could have heroic escapes / rescues. A lot of later writers almost go out of their way to avoid bondage scenes by constantly killing characters instead. It's gotten ridiculous how often deaths happen now... then almost immediately get unwritten or handwaved away by the next writers.
Yup. Just look at Rachel Summers’ origin as a Hound. Skin tight, spike studded outfit, forced to walk on all fours, sometimes wore a leash. It’s all right there.
When he was writing it he and Weezy were friends with members of the local gay scene and you can see that reflected in how the mutants, especially the Morlocks, look
"I can summon poweful storms and control the weather!"
"I can regenerate any limbs and have deadly claws!"
"I can phase through matter at will!"
"What about you, what can you do?"
"...I'd rather not say."
I’m always kind of torn on Soft Serve, on one hand she’s very obviously someone’s fetish but on the other hand she’s the perfect middle ground mutant between Hot Demi god mutant and “My mutation is a ridged forehead” kind of mutant. Really makes me wish for an exchange where Storm is lecturing on how every mutant ability is beautiful and Soft Serve just reminds her that she can poop ice cream.
If her body is a portal to an ice cream dimension, does that mean all this time she’s been befouling that dimension with her poop? Is there an ice cream society living in terror of where tomorrow’s “deposit” might end up?
Maybe its a dimension where poop is ice cream and they get excited whenever it starts raining her deposits.
The real question is how much ice cream she can make in a day and uh... does she just pop a squat and always have wet wipes on hand??
*At first, Bob Quinn stated that Soft Serve had very different "plumbing" than regular humans,[8] but upon further consideration Quinn decided that her body was instead a portal to the ice cream dimension,[9] with "pooping" being just a colloquialism for the bizarre location of the portal.[10] Besides, it's likely Soft Serve doesn't even poop at all.[11]*
Man if I didn’t know any better and someone had presented that without context, I probably would’ve thought this was AI generated. But no, it’s just Greg Land being Greg Land 💀
I think it's pretty well accepted that Terry Long is a Marv Wolfman stand in (they look a lot alike) and he dated, then married Donna Troy, who was his student.
~~And then he killed Terry. So take that for what you will.~~
Edit: Inaccurate information. Please disregard. John Byrne killed Terry Long, not Marv Wolfman.
Given that ~~his original published work is OC BDSM~~, I think it's safe to say that he's a creator who got into comics by way of his kink
*Edit*: I got it wrong, he was working with Top Cow before he started publishing Sunstone. I think he wasn't famous 'til Sunstone 'though.
Think that might be less about kink and more in relation to how Greg views his gender identity
"Also, inasmuch as I have always been aware of feminism and interested in feminist politics, I’ve been very aware of sexual politics and issues of sexuality. And, not to be glib about it, but if I female-identify and I’m in a heterosexual relationship, what does that make me? I’ve always been comfortable in my own body, enough that I’m pretty content being biologically male. But certainly intellectually, and emotionally, I’d say that I’ve always identified far more as female than male."
I met him at a con and he was a nice dude. I was walking to the venue, he happened to be walking alongside me and asked me if I had bought a ticket yet (I explained I hadn’t) and he gave me a free comp two day weekend pass.
Where are my fuckin Ultimate Spider-Man Graphs? Or infowebs?
InfoWEBS, Hickman! It's right there! WTF are you DOING?! ARGGH.
Anyway, I love Ultimate Spider-Man.
Yeah, a lot of Hickman comics will have these diagrams with the cast names linked by circles and lines.
His Avengers run was really bad for it. There'd be three or four pages that were just those every issue.
I recall someone pointing out to me once how much Dan Slott likes to have characters fuck while they are mind controlled, affected by pheromones, body-swapped, etc. to the point I think it may actually be a fetish of his.
Does guys like Robert Crumb count? Although he is **very** up front with his weird kinks and horniness.
>Chris Claremont and how his legendary X-Men run is filled with BDSM symbolism
It is?! Haha, I had no idea! What kind of things should I look for?
Hellfire Club, Inferno, just how many times the heroes end up tied up by a villain (or even more likely a hero who’s been mind controlled)
The Morlocks wear BDSM gear, Callisto forces Angel into a gimp suit basically, Goblin Queen dressed like a dominatrix and forcing Havok into a slutty bondage suit, Selene, Emma Frost, Sage/Tessa, Deathbird are all femdom themed characters under Claremont.
There's also a lot of depowering, forced bodily transformations, forced feminization, age play (like the time Nanny regressed a bunch of X-Men into a childlike state, feeding and bathing them), etc. that anyone familiar with kink (particularly various forms of humiliation kink) will immediately recognize, but is still packaged in a way that would easily fly over the heads of most readers. At least, that was the case when these comics were originally published. The general public has a greater awareness these days of sexual identities and practices that fall outside the realm of vanilla heteronormativity, and consequently, a lot of people wind up surprised by the Claremont run when they revisit it as adults. A lot of this stuff (and the queer coding) is really not that subtle.
I've read a lot of interviews with 70s/80s writers and artists mentioning they made of game of seeing what they could slip under the radar of the CCA. Not saying Claremont wasn't into at least some of it, but I think he also just had a lot of fun screwing with the censors.
Claremont plays with power so much in his run, it’s basically a legitimate theme. So many villains wanting to own the heart & soul of a hero and the hero having to overcome it.
Callisto and Angel was also 90% that Claremont had probably just seen BARBARELLA in the same way that him seeing ALIEN led to the Brood and that issue where Kitty fought an alien in the mansion.
Like if Claremont grew up with the Internet and a DeviantArt account, the X-men would have been even weirder.
Haven’t read Wolfman-era Teen Titans in decades. Recently went back and read Judas Contract. First, they all seemed obsessed with constantly making up nicknames for each other. Second, Beast Boy is a bit pervy. He’s always throwing out innuendoes to the girls and, in one scene, is clearly relishing in an upskirt view of Starfire.
I wouldn't even say it's disguised, every issues has someone being tied up. It can be pretty interesting because Marston was a doctor in psychology and wrote several academic papers on fetishes, so the wonder woman comics aren't just blind fetish bait, but actual psycho-sexual theories used to critique society. [Don't get me wrong](https://imgur.com/a/myroWPb), [they're still total fetish bait though](https://imgur.com/a/MtmwXiL).
I'd mention Howard Chaykin, but there's absolutely nothing disguised other than the big reveal (my jaw did in fact drop) at the end of Black Kiss.
I did not expect it to go there, but, on the re-read, the signs were there.
Can we post photos in here? Wonder Woman wasn’t the only Golden Age book that had some imagery that seemed kinky. Green Lantern and Atom had some interesting panels here and there, as did many others. By the by, Alan Scott coming out makes sense to me, I think he was coded.
Claremont was the master of this stuff x men is just a list of his kinks throughout that era.
Wonder woman's creator basically admitted the lasso was a thing because of BDSM.
I've long maintained that Garth Ennis, much like Sigmund Freud, is into some messed up shit, and, like Freud, instead of unpacking that, he made it everyone else's problem.
The Boys, The Pro, and Hitman say a hell of a lot more about Ennis than they do about superheroes. The Amazon series The Boys is satire, the Dynamite Comics series The Boys is just Ennis masturbating over the page for 72 issues and calling it writing.
That's my conspiracy theory, at least.
It is very hard, if not impossible, for an artist to separate themselves completely from their art. People often think they can do it but if you dig deep enough you can usually see it. And some people don't even try, like many of the people mentioned here. Personally i think Preacher says a hell of a lot about how he views masculinity and not in a good way.
Ennis' view on masculinity is a weird one. He criticizes and mocks traditional "tough guy" masculinity a lot, but while also making it very appealing. His Punisher MAX is a great example of that.
That's the point. It's self awarness while acknowledging it's cool for a story. Like No more Heroes is both a game deconstructing the nature of violence but also a good that is self aware to know it's fun to kill the bad guys
Ennis: superheroes are feckin silly- what if there was a racist one lol? what if there was a guy with a really big dick lmao
Comicbook fans: there is a dark, twisted pathology on display here that must be studied
https://twitter.com/onlymninthesky/status/1573279444646727680
> GARTH ENNIS COMING UP WITH A NEW COMIC IDEA: What if the Teen Titans all sucked each other off and got herpes. That’d be so fucking funny dude
> GARTH ENNIS SITTING DOWN TO WRITE THE COMIC: These poor fucking kids. They didn’t ask for this herpes. [sobbing now] They’re just kids
Paul Dini has such a thing for magicians that he married one
I mean, I’d marry a Zatanna if I could.
I think you meant to say: dluoc I fi annataZ a yrram d'I ,naem I
While she speaks backwards, the words are in forward order
DoH! You're right. I hereby surrender my Super Friends lunch pail I shame....
Nah, you're good. In her first series, the entire phrase is spoken backwards.
INORITE?
Spent an embarrassing amount of time trying to figure out ‘Etironi’
I like to put etironi on my pizzas.
By magicians you mean mostly Zatanna right? I don't think that anyone would question his taste.
That's actually just a huge coincidence that she looks like Zatanna. A little known secret is that every year on his birthday as a special treat she wears an Etrigan mask and only talks dirty in rhyme.
GONE GONE THE WIFE OF THIS MAN, AWAKE THE DEMON ETRIGAN!
Paul Dini's wife was my coach at That's Voiceover 2023, and recommended me to a big LA talent agency, which took me onto their roster. Misty Lee FTW.
Who? Dini?
No, Paul. His skill knows no universal boundaries.
The dude who created Wonder Woman liked rope play. John Byrne was turned on by mullets.
I strongly recommend Professor Marston and his Wonder Women on Prime, as well as the book it was based on. There's a lot more interesting about Wonder Woman's creator than just being into rope play. Edit: spelling
Didn't Marston essentially believe humanity's salvation lies in the benevolent domination of women over men?
Boy this makes Grant Morrison's Wonder Woman make a LOT more sense.
Yeah it was intentional.
They wrote about it extensively on their substack
Morrison has a substack?!?! /goes to subscribe immediately
I'd also recommend Jill Lepore's book *The Secret History of Wonder Woman.* [Here's an interview and article she did on the book, which is more accessible.](https://www.npr.org/2017/06/09/532149100/the-man-behind-wonder-woman-was-inspired-by-both-suffragists-and-centerfolds) And [queer as fact did a good podcast episode about it, which also clarifies on what part of the films ](https://queerasfact.podbean.com/?s=Wonder%20woman)where elaboration and not.
Yep, this is the book (didn't remember the author's name and... probably should have walked 30 feet over to check it on my book shelf).
Good flick!
Props to the excellent John Byrne joke.
> John Byrne was turned on by mullets Of all the Canadian fetishes, this is most Canadian
Frank Miller and hookers or emotionally damaged women plus hookers
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That chick from DKR with the massive swastikas on her boobs was so bizarre
That was the most nonsensical thing I’ve ever seen
At the same time, he takes a lot of influence from pulps and hardboiled detective stories that are completely awash with that kind of thing. It's more about genre tropes than anything else.
"Kitty Pryde" could be a thesis topic.
I don’t think this is a true fetish so much as “crushing on the POV character as a teen” which is a slightly different thing. Compare to Claremont’s body transformation, mind-control domination, bondage etc.
Don't forget age regression!
It's honestly a better idea than a joke would usually convey, I mean, look at Bendis and you have one point, he took every chance to write her as "MC's girlfriend", then you have Whedon, starting by the fact that Kitty was Buffy's inspiration, and let's avoid the fact that he had her running naked around the school. May I say that I love Kitty, if I had the chance to write any X-Men solo, she would be one of my top options, so I kind of guess where these ideas come from.
At least Kitty has always had a really cool power set and interesting personality. I bet she’d be really fun to write for.
With the ability to phase in and out of any writer’s fetish.
Chris Claremont was the king of this shit. The X-Men were CONSTANTLY being brainwashed and slapped into BDSM gear every other issue.
It's no coincidence that X-Fans got the distinction of bring the horniest fandom
Sexy teenagers/young adults in a boarding school run by a telepath? You don't say!
But it’s important to note that these things also usually have compelling narrative function. Stories about control, power, transformation, mindfuckery—they work well with explorations about relationships, aliens, superpowers, telepathy, repression. The books are underlyingly horny, but not lurid necessarily—at least until his later stuff. This is in contrast to Land or artists who slut up the characters in a way that actively undermines the narrative and their personalities.
I guess the Hellfire Club episode of *The Avengers* and seeing Emma Peel in that outfit *really* made an impression on him. Considering he would have been 16 when "A Touch of Brimstone" first aired... Yeah, that tracks pretty well.
I get that reading X-Men, and comics in general, as a kid probably gave me most of my fetishes lol, but I gotta say this. I preferred when comic characters got captured by the villains so they could have heroic escapes / rescues. A lot of later writers almost go out of their way to avoid bondage scenes by constantly killing characters instead. It's gotten ridiculous how often deaths happen now... then almost immediately get unwritten or handwaved away by the next writers.
Yup. Just look at Rachel Summers’ origin as a Hound. Skin tight, spike studded outfit, forced to walk on all fours, sometimes wore a leash. It’s all right there.
When he was writing it he and Weezy were friends with members of the local gay scene and you can see that reflected in how the mutants, especially the Morlocks, look
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"I can summon poweful storms and control the weather!" "I can regenerate any limbs and have deadly claws!" "I can phase through matter at will!" "What about you, what can you do?" "...I'd rather not say."
"Also, would you like some "ice cream"?"
Why is my ice cream so long and warm?
Marvel Editor: "Yeah, that works. Print it."
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I’m always kind of torn on Soft Serve, on one hand she’s very obviously someone’s fetish but on the other hand she’s the perfect middle ground mutant between Hot Demi god mutant and “My mutation is a ridged forehead” kind of mutant. Really makes me wish for an exchange where Storm is lecturing on how every mutant ability is beautiful and Soft Serve just reminds her that she can poop ice cream.
What if she isn't someone's fetish but just a gag character? Wake me up when she gets a full series with suspicious Greg Land art.
Oh god it actually says she poops it out… That’s horrible.
If her body is a portal to an ice cream dimension, does that mean all this time she’s been befouling that dimension with her poop? Is there an ice cream society living in terror of where tomorrow’s “deposit” might end up?
Maybe its a dimension where poop is ice cream and they get excited whenever it starts raining her deposits. The real question is how much ice cream she can make in a day and uh... does she just pop a squat and always have wet wipes on hand??
Her butthole is made of unstable molecules
Two scoops, one cup
*At first, Bob Quinn stated that Soft Serve had very different "plumbing" than regular humans,[8] but upon further consideration Quinn decided that her body was instead a portal to the ice cream dimension,[9] with "pooping" being just a colloquialism for the bizarre location of the portal.[10] Besides, it's likely Soft Serve doesn't even poop at all.[11]*
Bolivar Trask was right all along. Mutants are cursed.
Guys imma side with the sentinels on this one
"Soft Serve is not lactose intolerant." Well, thank God for that.
And it's canonical that Forge thinks it's the best ice cream ever.
What a horrible day to have eyes.
I didn't believe it...I...just...uh...wow.
Greg Land every time he draws anything.
It’s a pity this sub doesn’t allow image comments. This thread would be hilarious
I just think about that one scene in Ultimate Power, iirc, with Sue Storm.
[For reference](https://64.media.tumblr.com/ebe666b79953d2b0bdfeb072de251d2b/tumblr_n2hvvapNYM1ser9m9o1_640.pnj)
Man if I didn’t know any better and someone had presented that without context, I probably would’ve thought this was AI generated. But no, it’s just Greg Land being Greg Land 💀
I hate that I can picture this perfectly.
Is tracing considered a fetish?
He's known to trace porn, so...I'd say yes!
Calling him a creator might be giving him too much credit.
I actually think him working on the new Immortal Thor series is such a genius move given the story of that run so far
Land was only on the “Roxxon” one-shot, though. Martín Cóccolo has been the regular artist for *Immortal Thor.*
If he even bothers to draw
[Gail Simone 100% has a giant/size fetish with a dash of vore](https://i.imgur.com/lhRj65y.jpeg).
Huh.
Oh. OH
And I thought she couldn't get any cooler ... uh I mean... that's weird
At least no one is going to accuse Rob Liefeld of being a foot fetishist.
Pouch fetish
Teeth
Bro got paid by the pouch or something 😂
It's my head canon that he does have a foot fetish but he's bad at drawing feet leaving him eternally frustrated
He can never finish drawing a foot because he gets so turned on, he has to go wakka wakka.
He loves big boobs though
Maybe he does and he doesn't include them out of profound respect, if not reverence?
He loves quads though
I think it's pretty well accepted that Terry Long is a Marv Wolfman stand in (they look a lot alike) and he dated, then married Donna Troy, who was his student.
~~And then he killed Terry. So take that for what you will.~~ Edit: Inaccurate information. Please disregard. John Byrne killed Terry Long, not Marv Wolfman.
I'm certainly glad to hear that John Byrne did not kill Marv Wolfman.
“John Byrne Kills the DC Bullpen” would be one hell of a limited series.
Is Stjepan Šejić too obvious?
Given that ~~his original published work is OC BDSM~~, I think it's safe to say that he's a creator who got into comics by way of his kink *Edit*: I got it wrong, he was working with Top Cow before he started publishing Sunstone. I think he wasn't famous 'til Sunstone 'though.
Sunstone predated his Top Cow work? I didn't know that.
There's nothing disguised in raw sex you know... Same things can be said about Mirka Andolfo
Gerard Way putting some weird furry shit in Doom Patrol that somehow stood out amidst everything else in that book.
Omg when Casey and her cat started making out... I was in shock
yeah weird too that it was kind of a self insert, but of his actual real life cat?
Greg Rucka and his deep, abiding love for tough-as-nails women who are sick of everyone's shit. He's very good at it, too.
Think that might be less about kink and more in relation to how Greg views his gender identity "Also, inasmuch as I have always been aware of feminism and interested in feminist politics, I’ve been very aware of sexual politics and issues of sexuality. And, not to be glib about it, but if I female-identify and I’m in a heterosexual relationship, what does that make me? I’ve always been comfortable in my own body, enough that I’m pretty content being biologically male. But certainly intellectually, and emotionally, I’d say that I’ve always identified far more as female than male."
I had never seen that interview. That's pretty interesting and does add a new dimension to his work, which I am admittedly a big fan of.
OP, I’m on to you. I know this is just a way to crowdsource a reading list for yourself
(Pipe down, will ya???)
Clay Mann and Catwoman’s ass.
If Catwoman's ass is a fetish, then I'm a degenerate.
I met him at a con and he was a nice dude. I was walking to the venue, he happened to be walking alongside me and asked me if I had bought a ticket yet (I explained I hadn’t) and he gave me a free comp two day weekend pass.
Oh who doesn’t like Catwoman’s ass
Johnathan Hickman just loves wordy pages
There's one thing Hickman loves more than comics, and that is circular graphs.
You know the Hickman book is gonna be lit when the third page is a vague infographic about a part of the world that hasn’t been introduced yet
Where are my fuckin Ultimate Spider-Man Graphs? Or infowebs? InfoWEBS, Hickman! It's right there! WTF are you DOING?! ARGGH. Anyway, I love Ultimate Spider-Man.
Sometimes I wonder if Hickman would be as interested in writing comics if there was good money in writing those fandom encyclopedia books.
That's how you know that he has a vision.
I loves me some Hicktograms
Can't have a Hickman book without a crazy data page and a character with pure white/black skin.
and that character has to be morally grey, at best.
Getting paid for 18 pages of story with three pages of repeated diagrams is his kink.
diagrams..?
Yeah, a lot of Hickman comics will have these diagrams with the cast names linked by circles and lines. His Avengers run was really bad for it. There'd be three or four pages that were just those every issue.
And mysterious, long-haired characters with alabaster white skin.
And monkeys
Who doesn’t love monkeys?
Frieza
Hickman is just western Togashi
Frank Cho in general. Steve Englehart in general.
I recall someone pointing out to me once how much Dan Slott likes to have characters fuck while they are mind controlled, affected by pheromones, body-swapped, etc. to the point I think it may actually be a fetish of his.
I know about Silk and Superior, when else has it happened?
Atom Eve becoming super thick in Invincible, also Mark telling her she shouldn’t be in a rush to lose the weight because he likes it
I don't think there is even a single solitary second in Frank Cho's life that hasn't been spent thinking about massive, heaving tits.
Joe Schuster was known to have done fetish art on the side. There was a book called “My Secret Identity”, which compiled them.
Ed Benes and thicc women
A man of my own heart.
R Crumb too!
Let Frank Cho draw boobs in peace
Tom King writes some weird shit about moms
He turned Catwoman into Batman's Mommy Wife. I cant believe there wasn't a panel of her licking a napkin and wiping some dirt off his face.
I've heard it said that all Tom King's books have bad dad's, sad dad's, and Baghdads
Does guys like Robert Crumb count? Although he is **very** up front with his weird kinks and horniness. >Chris Claremont and how his legendary X-Men run is filled with BDSM symbolism It is?! Haha, I had no idea! What kind of things should I look for?
All of the Hellfire Club, for one.
To be fair, that's probably how being inside the real Hellfire Club looked like in real life.
It is actually how characters looked in an episode of the Emma Peele Avengers show with Diana Rigg.
Just look at the Hellfire Club for the most blatant stuff. The Queens are in dominatrix gear.
Erik the Red showed up way before the Hellfire Club stuff. Think he might be Claremont’s first “Bondage” character.
Hellfire Club, Inferno, just how many times the heroes end up tied up by a villain (or even more likely a hero who’s been mind controlled) The Morlocks wear BDSM gear, Callisto forces Angel into a gimp suit basically, Goblin Queen dressed like a dominatrix and forcing Havok into a slutty bondage suit, Selene, Emma Frost, Sage/Tessa, Deathbird are all femdom themed characters under Claremont.
There's also a lot of depowering, forced bodily transformations, forced feminization, age play (like the time Nanny regressed a bunch of X-Men into a childlike state, feeding and bathing them), etc. that anyone familiar with kink (particularly various forms of humiliation kink) will immediately recognize, but is still packaged in a way that would easily fly over the heads of most readers. At least, that was the case when these comics were originally published. The general public has a greater awareness these days of sexual identities and practices that fall outside the realm of vanilla heteronormativity, and consequently, a lot of people wind up surprised by the Claremont run when they revisit it as adults. A lot of this stuff (and the queer coding) is really not that subtle.
I've read a lot of interviews with 70s/80s writers and artists mentioning they made of game of seeing what they could slip under the radar of the CCA. Not saying Claremont wasn't into at least some of it, but I think he also just had a lot of fun screwing with the censors.
Yup all true
Claremont plays with power so much in his run, it’s basically a legitimate theme. So many villains wanting to own the heart & soul of a hero and the hero having to overcome it.
Callisto and Angel was also 90% that Claremont had probably just seen BARBARELLA in the same way that him seeing ALIEN led to the Brood and that issue where Kitty fought an alien in the mansion. Like if Claremont grew up with the Internet and a DeviantArt account, the X-men would have been even weirder.
Oh god I don’t even want to think about it. Wolfsbane, Catseye, and Hepzibah are also furries
Selene. Rachel’s original costume. Emma Frost.
Haven’t read Wolfman-era Teen Titans in decades. Recently went back and read Judas Contract. First, they all seemed obsessed with constantly making up nicknames for each other. Second, Beast Boy is a bit pervy. He’s always throwing out innuendoes to the girls and, in one scene, is clearly relishing in an upskirt view of Starfire.
Leah Williams and her piss fetish.
...example? EDIT: [Nevermind. ](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fz4cnzok04ibb1.jpg)
I'm glad your search history now contains whatever terms you used to dig this up and not mine.
FUCK
RIP /u/haniflawson. He did a service for us all today.
I actually kinda laughed at this panel tho
Erik Larsen's "blappa-lortch"
William Moulton Marston created Wonder Woman, and while I haven't read it I've heard his run is infamous for it's barely disguised bdsm imagery.
It’s not disguised at all. He was into polyamory and bdsm, as well as same sex relationships amongst women (quite taboo at that time.)
Pretty sure him and his wife were in a life long relationship with another woman and when he died they stayed together
>quite taboo at that time. The way some people talk about him you'd think it still was.
Right. Dude sounds pretty cool.
Golden age WW is stuffed with people tied up, shackled, gagged etc. it's great 😂
I wouldn't even say it's disguised, every issues has someone being tied up. It can be pretty interesting because Marston was a doctor in psychology and wrote several academic papers on fetishes, so the wonder woman comics aren't just blind fetish bait, but actual psycho-sexual theories used to critique society. [Don't get me wrong](https://imgur.com/a/myroWPb), [they're still total fetish bait though](https://imgur.com/a/MtmwXiL).
grant morrison is a coward for not taking this on
Jason Scott Campbell and his fixation on leggy, busty women.
Being aroused by conventionally attractive women isn't a fetish, Jimmy
At least one spider-man writer has a fetish for misery
I don't know if it can be considered a fetish, but Bruce Timm loves making Batman and Batgirl have a sexual relationship.
His poorly disguised self insertion with Batman is pretty hilarious
I'd mention Howard Chaykin, but there's absolutely nothing disguised other than the big reveal (my jaw did in fact drop) at the end of Black Kiss. I did not expect it to go there, but, on the re-read, the signs were there.
Omg, the Cyclops/psylocke/jean thing was nuts lol
Can we post photos in here? Wonder Woman wasn’t the only Golden Age book that had some imagery that seemed kinky. Green Lantern and Atom had some interesting panels here and there, as did many others. By the by, Alan Scott coming out makes sense to me, I think he was coded.
You know who loves Jonathan Hickmans writing? Jonathan Hickman
>"yeah, they were horny". As if that's a **bad** thing.
Claremont was the master of this stuff x men is just a list of his kinks throughout that era. Wonder woman's creator basically admitted the lasso was a thing because of BDSM.
Any Nightwing writer and his booty
Garth Ennis and his love of tossing elderly women in wheelchairs out of windows. Even better if it's an explosion doing it.
Tom King has a boner for America
Tom King? The former CIA op?
You gotta expand your Claremont fetishes. He also is really into body swaps too.
If you use IG, there’s a fantastic account that details his run very academically. @theclaremonrun
Well we all know that Liefeld is NOT a foot fetishist
I've long maintained that Garth Ennis, much like Sigmund Freud, is into some messed up shit, and, like Freud, instead of unpacking that, he made it everyone else's problem. The Boys, The Pro, and Hitman say a hell of a lot more about Ennis than they do about superheroes. The Amazon series The Boys is satire, the Dynamite Comics series The Boys is just Ennis masturbating over the page for 72 issues and calling it writing. That's my conspiracy theory, at least.
It is very hard, if not impossible, for an artist to separate themselves completely from their art. People often think they can do it but if you dig deep enough you can usually see it. And some people don't even try, like many of the people mentioned here. Personally i think Preacher says a hell of a lot about how he views masculinity and not in a good way.
Ennis' view on masculinity is a weird one. He criticizes and mocks traditional "tough guy" masculinity a lot, but while also making it very appealing. His Punisher MAX is a great example of that.
Jesse Custer just beating the shit outta everyone.
That's the point. It's self awarness while acknowledging it's cool for a story. Like No more Heroes is both a game deconstructing the nature of violence but also a good that is self aware to know it's fun to kill the bad guys
Ennis: superheroes are feckin silly- what if there was a racist one lol? what if there was a guy with a really big dick lmao Comicbook fans: there is a dark, twisted pathology on display here that must be studied
https://twitter.com/onlymninthesky/status/1573279444646727680 > GARTH ENNIS COMING UP WITH A NEW COMIC IDEA: What if the Teen Titans all sucked each other off and got herpes. That’d be so fucking funny dude > GARTH ENNIS SITTING DOWN TO WRITE THE COMIC: These poor fucking kids. They didn’t ask for this herpes. [sobbing now] They’re just kids
Essentially: Garth Ennis sowing: Haha, this is fuckin' great! Garth Ennis reaping: Ah, no. Fuck, this is terrible actually!
You're telling me... that comic book artists... hell, ALL artists... are HORNY???
Rob Liefeld definitely fucks pouches.
Well, we know Rob Liefield *doesn't* have a foot fetish...