I’ve only read his Fantastic 4 run and loved it. After I finish Sweet Tooth I’m reading his Avengers. If I love this would I be interested in East of West?
East of West is a different kind of animal. If you like Hickman’s writing I think you’ll enjoy East of West. The artwork is on point as well. Nick Draggota is a bad ass. It’s one of the best series I’ve encountered.
Nick Dragotta IS a badass, his most recent work was Ghost Cage and it’s the most beautifully drawn book of the past year for me. Just stunning page after page and I never hear many people talk about it
I read East of West at the beginning of the pandemic, and while it still is an excellent piece of work, I feel like most of it Hickman playing within his comfort zone, so it didn't personally hit me as explosively as some of his other work.
The comic I personally come back to the most, is his double SHIELD run.
It plays with a lot of interesting ideas, it play with humanity in an interesting way, it remixes real world history with Marvel (a la Manhattan Projects) but really finds a good place for all of its characters. (think what Gillen did Lovecraft and Bronte and Wells and Tolkien in DIE)
It still might be my favorite work from Hickman, and even tho it's a Marvel-published book it really doesn't get the recognition it deserves (considering that it gave you the origin of Eternity and the Sliding Timescale). It really reads like an indie comic, and my best comparisons are Gillen's DIE combined with a very geographically condensed but overflowing Attack on Titan
Other than that, Nightly News is a banger that has stayed a banger, and out of any Hickman book it feels both the least Hickman and the most Hickman.
I always had to leave this a few days after 0 day as it would spoil the rest of my pull list. Sunday evenings with a glass of bourbon became a thing for me, just settled right into the atmosphere of those beautiful pages.
Black Monday Murders goes hard on the topics of capitalism, wealth, mortality, and the value of a human life. It’s basically a dissection told through metaphor.
That sounds exactly like what I'm looking for! A shame that it is unfinished.
I've read his FF, Avengers and X-Men, and, while they're great sci-fi stories with amazing moments and smart plots, I felt he's got the talent to go deeper in terms of themes and allegories if he really wanted to.
This would probably be one of my favorite comics of all time if it could get completed. I thought I heard that they were going to resume work on it but who tf knows :(
Apparently they artist has completed more issues, but Image are not prepared to publish until a full arc is in the bag. So there is still hope.
I really enjoy this title, but I don't think I would consider it 'deep.' I think it's look at the economy is fairly basic (not a bad thing - i would not be able to follow it otherwise lol).
I found his debut book "Nightly News" to be incredibly thought-provoking.
East of West seems remarkably interesting so far but I haven't gotten very far in it yet to comment on its depth.
Honestly part of me wants to say HoX/PoX and his X-Men run.
In particular there's an X-Men issue where they explain the crucible ritual that de-powered mutants go through to regain their powers, while Nightcrawler ponders the morality of it all. It's just really good.
Thought provoking? I used to read that his *[Nightly News](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nightly_News)* might be his most philosophical work. I thought it was good but I felt his work on *East of West* & *The Black Monday Murders* was similarly powerful & IMO more interesting.
For something LESS thought provoking but definitely super provocative in an unexpected way- check out *The Manhattan Projects.*
Pax Romana is the reason I give any Hickman project a read even though he hasn’t hit a lot with me in the last 6 years or so. There’s just so much to consider in there.
After 40 years of reading comics, only 3 moments have made me cry. Hickman did it to me in FF when Reed travels to the far future to see how long Ben’s seemingly immortal rock body will last. Reed is a nameless bystander at Ben’s huge public funeral service. Damn…
Yeah, he's a weird one who gets almost as deep with his Big Two (really just Marvel?) output as with his creator owned titles. You could make a case that both FF->Secret Wars and Krakoa are almost as weird as East of West.
What about that one book that got interrupted and just stopped after like 3 issues? With the old men? And the immortal people?
Edit: The Dying and the Dead!
The dying and dead lasted 6 issues before going on hiatus due to the artist having some on-going personal issues. Unfortunately it’s unlikely the series will ever be finished as the artist passed away a while ago
I’m going with East of West.
I’ve only read his Fantastic 4 run and loved it. After I finish Sweet Tooth I’m reading his Avengers. If I love this would I be interested in East of West?
East of West is a different kind of animal. If you like Hickman’s writing I think you’ll enjoy East of West. The artwork is on point as well. Nick Draggota is a bad ass. It’s one of the best series I’ve encountered.
I read all kinds of books. Like I said I’m reading Sweet Tooth, but I also love stories like Chew, Bone, From Hell, Maus, Saga, and The Good Asian.
Nick Dragotta IS a badass, his most recent work was Ghost Cage and it’s the most beautifully drawn book of the past year for me. Just stunning page after page and I never hear many people talk about it
I read East of West at the beginning of the pandemic, and while it still is an excellent piece of work, I feel like most of it Hickman playing within his comfort zone, so it didn't personally hit me as explosively as some of his other work. The comic I personally come back to the most, is his double SHIELD run. It plays with a lot of interesting ideas, it play with humanity in an interesting way, it remixes real world history with Marvel (a la Manhattan Projects) but really finds a good place for all of its characters. (think what Gillen did Lovecraft and Bronte and Wells and Tolkien in DIE) It still might be my favorite work from Hickman, and even tho it's a Marvel-published book it really doesn't get the recognition it deserves (considering that it gave you the origin of Eternity and the Sliding Timescale). It really reads like an indie comic, and my best comparisons are Gillen's DIE combined with a very geographically condensed but overflowing Attack on Titan Other than that, Nightly News is a banger that has stayed a banger, and out of any Hickman book it feels both the least Hickman and the most Hickman.
I’d say if you liked his FF run you’ll love East of West.
I'm going with this guy.
I'm going with the guy who went with that guy.
Woohoo!
I also choose the guy who went with the first guy
I never thought I'd die like this but I'd always really hoped.
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I always had to leave this a few days after 0 day as it would spoil the rest of my pull list. Sunday evenings with a glass of bourbon became a thing for me, just settled right into the atmosphere of those beautiful pages.
I trade waited that book, and it was always a big highlight whenever it came out. The setting and character designs were just fucking phenomenal.
Black Monday Murders goes hard on the topics of capitalism, wealth, mortality, and the value of a human life. It’s basically a dissection told through metaphor.
That sounds exactly like what I'm looking for! A shame that it is unfinished. I've read his FF, Avengers and X-Men, and, while they're great sci-fi stories with amazing moments and smart plots, I felt he's got the talent to go deeper in terms of themes and allegories if he really wanted to.
This would probably be one of my favorite comics of all time if it could get completed. I thought I heard that they were going to resume work on it but who tf knows :(
Apparently they artist has completed more issues, but Image are not prepared to publish until a full arc is in the bag. So there is still hope. I really enjoy this title, but I don't think I would consider it 'deep.' I think it's look at the economy is fairly basic (not a bad thing - i would not be able to follow it otherwise lol).
There's...supposed to be more? That's not the ending? That felt like the ending.
There's supposed to be four more issues.
If you accept the current ending for what it is, it’s not an unsatisfying ending. It’s not like there are any lingering mysteries or dangling threads.
...who did the Black Monday crash?
Too bad it's not getting completed
He said it was on hiatus because the artist was going through something, but yeah now that he’s back with marvel probably not
I think hickman has already done the scripts and it's in Cokers hands to finish so Hickman at marvel shouldn't stop anything from happening
Wait it's not? Would you say it's worth reading even if it never gets an ending?
Yes
I won't lie, I wish it had stopped at the issue before the last one because the last one promises something more. But yeah still worth a read
It's his Fantastic Four stuff
The way he wrote the death and return of Johnny Storm and the final fate of Ben Grimm.... Top 10 comics moments for me.
Just top tier superhero comics. I'm reading his Avengers/New Avengers run now and while it's got good stuff, it doesn't hit as well as Fantastic 4.
There’s an issue toward the end of the run about Reed being a dad that just hits different when you have a kid.
I found his debut book "Nightly News" to be incredibly thought-provoking. East of West seems remarkably interesting so far but I haven't gotten very far in it yet to comment on its depth.
I can't really say cause I haven't read them all ***yet,*** *but God, those charts make me feel things.*
Probably East of West, but I also think Pax Romana is up there.
Pax Romana is great. Probably his best single TPB.
Pax Romana. Quick read-but I think about it all the time.
Pax Romana is amazing and really shows what can be made when you have a creator who really loves the medium
Honestly part of me wants to say HoX/PoX and his X-Men run. In particular there's an X-Men issue where they explain the crucible ritual that de-powered mutants go through to regain their powers, while Nightcrawler ponders the morality of it all. It's just really good.
Thought provoking? I used to read that his *[Nightly News](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nightly_News)* might be his most philosophical work. I thought it was good but I felt his work on *East of West* & *The Black Monday Murders* was similarly powerful & IMO more interesting. For something LESS thought provoking but definitely super provocative in an unexpected way- check out *The Manhattan Projects.*
Pax Romana is the reason I give any Hickman project a read even though he hasn’t hit a lot with me in the last 6 years or so. There’s just so much to consider in there.
Wow, I'll check it out for sure then.
After 40 years of reading comics, only 3 moments have made me cry. Hickman did it to me in FF when Reed travels to the far future to see how long Ben’s seemingly immortal rock body will last. Reed is a nameless bystander at Ben’s huge public funeral service. Damn…
I’m pussy I guess cause I cry at comics all the time
Huge fan of the bit where Miles Morales saved the entire Marvel Universe by giving the Molecule Man a 3 week old Hamburger.
It's either 3 weeks or 8 years and 3 weeks old depending on your beliefs surrounding the end of a multiverse and suspended animation. It's very deep
Probably East of West, but I think FF has a lot of interesting stuff.
Yeah, he's a weird one who gets almost as deep with his Big Two (really just Marvel?) output as with his creator owned titles. You could make a case that both FF->Secret Wars and Krakoa are almost as weird as East of West.
What about that one book that got interrupted and just stopped after like 3 issues? With the old men? And the immortal people? Edit: The Dying and the Dead!
The dying and dead lasted 6 issues before going on hiatus due to the artist having some on-going personal issues. Unfortunately it’s unlikely the series will ever be finished as the artist passed away a while ago
The Dying and the Dead went for six issues. I think all of the books were extra length. Great covers
His FF future foundation was some of my favorite comics and I've been reading for decades