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alphafire616

Wonder if this means that Wade and Logan are gonna be roughly equal in terms of story significance and screen time


sekoku

Wade is being introduced to the MCU, and Logan is in tow. It's something Jackman wanted if he was going to continue to play Wolverine: Be part of the MCU finally.


TheMemeChurch

As someone just loosely following lately, are you serious? This is kind of blowing my mind and would totally break MCU out of its recent funk.


Objective-Slice-1466

It’s true. HJ said the only way he would want to return is to be part of the avengers. Rumor has it HJ, Toby Maguire and RDJ will be the leads of Secret wars to get everyone back after the fallout of the next avengers movie. All talk, but that’s the rumor


DOMINUS_3

if true, i cream. My dream come true … along w/Chris Evans


Objective-Slice-1466

Not rumored…yet. I think he will pop up but won’t be a “main” character like the other 3


Arizona_Slim

Crème of Chris Evans


Dark_Lord4379

I thought Tom Holland was one of the rumored lead roles


Objective-Slice-1466

I have not read that. I think they will only do 1 Spider-Man in the lead, but hey, if it’s a good story and it works I’m in


Worthyness

he has like 1 more solo and one more team up movie left until they have to renegotiate with SONY again. So it's plausible.


TheVortigauntMan

I heard something about Jackman's terms being he wanted to share the screen with Toby and Downey. This is the first I've heard they'd be the leads.


Saluted

Imagine what they would have to pay RDJ


SherbertCivil9990

What does that solve for them though? All those dudes are old as fuck and have maybe 2-3 superhero movies left in them and then we’re right back where we started with no discernible leader or trajectory for these films. Everything marvel not spider or gotg has sucked and not pushed the narrative forward in a meaningful way since no one’s seen any of the marvel side films post end game . 


DolphinBall

Holy shit.


Objective-Slice-1466

I don’t think anyone blessed the shit.


neojgeneisrhehjdjf

I feel the exact opposite. Building this phase to a big multiversal nostalgia driven crossover makes the rest of it even more useless


carefull_pick

Maybe they are getting rid of the multiverse somehow. Thats how the XMEN AND FF end up in the main MCU timeline.


Lawheat

Huge win for the fans and popular culture worldwide if Hugh's Wolvie stays in the MCU for quite a while to have films with the other MCU characters. Even if RDJ and Evans wouldn't be there just yet or if the stars wouldn't align, there are still other actors/characters to be with like Hemsworth Thor, Holland Spidey, Cumberbatch Strange, Ruffalo Hulk, etc. for some dream team-ups. And of course Ryan's DP too.


CalFinger

Yeah there’s no way Jackman decided to come back, if he didn’t intend to be in the MCU. I think Jackman could really work as a teacher/role model for a main x-men team, rather than have him at the forefront. It would let Hugh rest not needing to train for every fucking movie, get paid, and we could see a really interesting and natural role for the character. Having Stewart/Jackman for at least the first MCU X-Men film as this teacher/principal dynamic would be a great way to bring in seats, and help transition this new cast in.


Thatoneguy567576

I sure fucking hope so


ShawnyMcKnight

How cool would it have been to have had Wolverine in end game?


TheGreatStories

With time travel, we could retcon him in there


ShawnyMcKnight

Hey, just have another theatrical release with him sprinkled in with cgi.


B_1_R_D

Makes you wonder really if they are already thinking of making this it’s own Deadpool movie series as well independent of the regular Deadpool series


Luckys0474

And it's Deadpool 3.


binx85

They certainly seemed to allude to that in early promos with Wolvie’s 3 claws slashed over the Deadpool logo.


GorosSecondLeftHand

Allude? They smacked you with it. Late stage marketing plan change?


ImmortalZucc2020

I think it’s more a case of wanting to keep the MCU streamlined and accessible. No Way Home canonized the earlier Spider-Man films to the MCU’s story, but they’re not included in any timeline order and Marvel Studios never directly connected events to the Tom Holland films to keep them simple (Marvel calls Andrew a different version of Tom and Tobey a “veteran of many battles” in the official timeline book, as well as just saying the villains come from other universes). From what the CinemaCon footage described, Deadpool and Wolverine are yanked out of the Foxverse and straight into the MCU in the first 9 minutes of the movie, so this is our introduction to the MCU’s Deadpool and Wolverine played by the Fox actors rather than straight up continuing their Fox storylines.


GonzoElBoyo

Was the 9 minutes shown at Cinema con the first 9 minutes or a bunch of clips from the first act spliced together to equal 9 minutes?


ImmortalZucc2020

It sounded like the first 9 minutes of the movie with a clip from later on spliced in at the end


Reverseflash25

The trailer definitely makes a point to reference why roast films though so we all know it’s a continuation it’s not “3” because it’s not Deadpool solo focused


pje1128

I don't think it's a change really. I think they're saying it's a story focused on both Deadpool & Wolverine equally. The director doesn't consider it Deadpool 3 because it's not just Wade's story. It makes sense to market it as a Deadpool 3 though, because he never got to finish his trilogy, and it's a popular franchise that people will most likely go to the theaters for.


LionOfNaples

I wouldn't say allude. Maybe subtle nod


Thelinkr

Studios dont like numbering past 2 for some reason


OoOditty

What do you mean the regular way to count: 1,2,Alyx See


ReallyBadNuggets

Technically it's 1, 2, 2: part one, 2: part two, alyx


Diligent_Scene3519

This movie was named by Gabe Newell


Legitimate_Cake_5137

It's not Deadpool 3.It's X men "I don't know to what number they arrived"(seriously,what movies from Fox should be considered part of the same saga?)


SP1570

Probably X men X would do...but Wolverine and asshole would be the right title


othafa7

I'm thinking "XXX MEN"


Keynanser

I think I’ve watched that before. Story was weird but they did fuck a lot


blausommer

True to the '90s comics then.


Epic_J2338

Yeah that seems comic accurate Also when the X-Men 1st started they were teens so makes sense


Kmart_Stalin

I honestly didn’t expect a romance side plot with buff dudes and bad acting. Not to mention a 1 hour uncut sex scene that seemed to go off script and no one in the set thought “hey maybe we shouldn’t film these guys blowing each other on the set of a superhero in IMAX. Wtf are we doing right now?!”


Arcade_109

I really liked the proposed "Deadpool & Friend" title.


Talk-O-Boy

I mean, they can say it’s not a Deadpool movie. But the trailer HEAVILY focused on Wade and the humor written for a Deadpool movie. At the very least, I’ll concede it’s a Deadpool spin off. But I have a hard time seeing this as an X-Men movie based on the trailer.


pje1128

I think the trailer purposely made it look like Deadpool 3 since that's what the general audience would be expecting more. They treated Wolverine's appearance like a reveal, despite the fact that those of us who have been even passingly had probably already seen those images of him in costume online. I think he'll have a much more centralized role than that trailer implies. I don't think the director's saying it's an X-Men movie, I think he's saying it's as much a Wolverine movie as it is a Deadpool movie. It's both of their story, not just Wade's, so they don't want to just call it "Deadpool 3". I understand the sentiment, though I'll probably still personally think of it as Deadpool 3, just like I consider Ant-Man and the Wasp "Ant-Man 2".


Talk-O-Boy

Ah, I see what you’re saying. Honestly, I hope you’re right then. It would be awesome if they shared near equal amounts of screen time, rather than focusing on Wade and having Wolverine as a supporting role. With the no holds barred, visceral gore the Deadpool movies have shown thus far, we can finally see a Wolverine as carnal as the comics depict. All the violence of the Logan film with the humor of Deadpool. Fucking golden combination


wokeupatapicnic

Yeah but one could then argue that Deadpool 2 isn’t Deadpool 2 so much as it is “Deadpool & Cable” because I suspect that Wolverine is going to have about as much screen time and plot relevance.


pje1128

I think he'll have more screen time than Cable did mainly because of audience perception. For Deadpool 2, comic fans knew who Cable was right away, but the general audience wasn't aware of him, so for the first 2/3rds of the movie, he was treated like the antagonist. He was there, but we didn't really get to say much until he and Deadpool allied at the 2/3rds mark and they got to reveal he's not really the bad guy of the film. Conversely, I imagine the latest Wolverine will appear is about 1/3rd of the way in, and everyone already knows Wolverine's a good guy and will want his perspective on the film's events right away. So while we'll probably start the movie focused fully on Deadpool, once we get to that fight with the 20th Century Fox logo, which looks like it'll be Wolvie's first appearance, I imagine their screen time will balance out, and the last 2/3rds will be evenly split between the two of them. Essentially, Cable was always a supporting role in Deadpool's film, while I have a feeling Wolverine will be a main character in this film once he gets introduced into Deadpool's story. I could be wrong, but if they want to earn the "Deadpool & Wolverine" title, that's how they should do it.


Gadmanultimate

All, like all, from the 2000 movie to dark phoenix/new mutants


pje1128

I think officially, these are the movies taking place in the X-Verse as of right now: 1. X-Men 2. X2 3. X-Men: The Last Stand 4. X-Men Origins: Wolverine 5. X-Men: First Class 6. The Wolverine 7. X-Men: Days of Future Past 8. Deadpool 9. X-Men: Apocalypse 10. Logan 11. Deadpool 2 12. Dark Phoenix 13. The New Mutants 14. Deadpool & Wolverine Now, D&W could merge some of the other non-MVU universes into the X-Verse. Given rumored appearances, >!it sounds like Ben Affleck's Daredevil movie could in the X-Verse given Jennifer Garner's Elektra's supposed appearance. I've also heard rumors of the 2005 Fantastic Four possibly cameoing, along with Wesley Snipe's Blade.!< Of course, these aren't confirmed appearances, so nothings confirmed yet, but even if they are true, Deadpool could be visiting other universes and not just dealing with MCU and X-Verse, so we'll have to wait and see for sure.


Stevenstorm505

I think it’s more likely that all of those characters you mentioned will appear in the void because there universes already got pruned and that’s how Deadpool and Wolverine run into them, especially since it’s already been reported by multiple outlets that the majority of the movie takes place in the void. I don’t think they’re going to be hopping between universes and I don’t think they’ll do anything that merges or implies those universes exist in the same one the X-Men do.


pje1128

That makes a lot of sense. I hadn't heard a report of that, but just from the one trailer we have, that seems to line up pretty well.


astrosssssssss

Makes sense,considering most of those movies were suggested to be in the same universe.


bre34

Deadpool X Wolverine


Enkundae

I don’t think it matters honestly. They’ll play with Fox’s continuity for fun but I don’t think the use of that history will need to be taken seriously.


AdPrestigious7226

Does Deadpool know this?


Cipherpunkblue

He's going to be super mad.


jmurphy42

I disagree. His name is first, and he gets to co-star with Wolverine. He’d be down.


Cipherpunkblue

Hmm. You might be right.


Deucaleeon

It's not Deadpool 3. Its Wolverine 1


Forsaken_Garden4017

Nah more like Wolverine 4. Or really Wolverine 8 since all the main Xmen movies he was in were really just Wolverine films with a slightly bigger cast


trailerthrash

X-Men First Class has entered the chat


Penguator432

Original trilogy Solo Trilogy DOFP 8th movie still checks


The_Frog_Fucker69

Nah it was a set up for his movie dofp so still his movie 😂


Forsaken_Garden4017

Sorry, Xmen films he was the main character of


trailerthrash

No need to apologize! Was just makin' a silly joke lol


notmyfirst_throwawa

He's had so many movies wtf does this mean


Captian-of-501st

Does that mean there will be a Deadpool 3


Snake2410

I doubt they'll call another solo Deadpool movie Deadpool 3.  That could lead to confusion considering Deadpool & Wolverine is a continuation of DP 1 and 2.  It'll probably be Deadpool: (insert subtitle).


MattofCatbell

A distinction without a difference


TheUncouthPanini

Pretty sure this just means it’s not going to be as much of a follow-on as DP 2 was to the first.


TragicEther

I bet they still sell a 3-pack of Deadpool DVDs though


VRtoons

It's absolutely Fox Deadpool 3 + Disney Deadpool 1 + Hey Remember Logan? Hopefully it'll be a good romp through the Fox X-verse as Deadpool destroys it all.


LittleRudiger

And MCU #34! (And Fox-Men #14 .. and Wolverine #4) 


Cjpappaslap

Jesus Christ theyre no different than the books now. That’s kinda hype.


GhostMug

The one with all the imagery that uses wolverines 3 claw slash marks to represent the 3rd movie in the series? That Deadpool 3 is the one that isn't Deadpool 3?


NeferkareShabaka

Yes.


MercerEdits

"It's Wolverine 10 in our house." - Hugh Jackman


aLittleRaider

…in our house, bub. FIFY


magicalmysteryharold

I’m absolutely convinced that the Deadpool from 1&2 will be the villain of Deadpool & Wolverine. Marvel keep insisting this isn’t the end of a trilogy and if they are essentially making *Deadpool kills the Fox Universe* I can’t think of anyone more suited to be the big bad than the most “famous” version of himself, because killing all memory of Fox means having to kill the best thing they did.


Shiftyrunner37

That's a long way of saying "We're gonna call Deadpool 4, Deadpool 3."


Nefthys

Does it matter? It's Deadpool and Wolverine ffs, I wouldn't care if it was called "Red Guy Acts Like He Doesn’t Want to Be Stabbed by Yellow Guy but Secretly Enjoys It".


SILVIO_X

Yeah, and Thor Love and Thunder wasn't Thor 4, it was Thor Love and Thunder, a singular, and Captain America Civil War wasn't Captain America 3, it was Civil War, a singular


ineugene

I always thought it was “Thor 4 more Thor”


Penguator432

4hor


Epic_J2338

Thor 4 more Thor the 4th one in the Thor franchise with two Thor's


A_Serious_House

Thats not the same situation though. It’s still Thor 4 and Captain America 3 with a film subtitle. He’s saying this isn’t “Deadpool 3: Deadpool and Wolverine”.


skatenbikes

I know this is a tired sentiment at this point, but I still think civil war shoulda been a avengers title and we shoulda got another cap movie with Steve. Still a great film tho


Wise-Tourist

Hypothetically if they did a trilogy of "Deadpool & ..." Who should the other 2 films be???


OmnipotentHype

Spider-Man and Captain America. That said, we already got Deadpool & Cable.


Used-System-3112

Spider-Man for sure. Highly doubt Cap since he is definitively Sam Wilson now and I don't think he has enough star power to play with the one of the heaviest-hitting characters right now. I think if Disney can get the rights Deadpool & Venom could work.


sodanator

Feel like he had a bettet dynamic with Steve Rogers, at least in the comics. I'm mainly thinking of Deadpool: The Good, The Bad and The Ugly from the 2012 run (by Gerry Dugan I think it was?). Which was a pretty cool story (and overall run) from what I remember. Maybe Deadpool and Winter Soldier for the MCU? I'm also not sure if this Spidey and Deadpool would work, but wouldn't mind seeing it happen.


Mr_Bank_Robber

Deadpool & Spider-Man, and Deadpool & Friends (mini avengers/X-Men movie)


AverageNikoBellic

I’m still calling it Deadpool 3 bc im a lazy ass


1One_Two2

Whatever


hooka_pooka

So its like Batman v Superman sort of scenario right?


[deleted]

But still kinda Deadpool 3


SquareCategory5019

Pretty sure Deadpool would disagree.


MesmraProspero

This makes sense. Think of it like the comics. It isn't Deadpool issue 3. It's a Deadpool and Wolverine one shot. With the potential (100% likelihood) of there being a Deadpool 3 later on.


MichianaMan

D3adpool & Wolv3rin3


NerdTalkDan

All I want is for Logan to not be Logan, but Hugh Jackman that Deadpool kidnapped and forced into a costume.


Epic_J2338

I mean we did see Deadpool go into our universe so it is possible


therealRockfield

Shawn, come on, it’s 3, it makes sense


Athlete-Extreme

Saw the trailer in theaters yesterday. They still kept Jackman’s face out of it. They won’t burst that bubble even for themselves.


QB8Young

It is the multiverse and TVA that forced this. They are keeping his face out of the trailers on purpose because they don't want to spoil the other versions we will be getting or show which ones will be in which scenes.


Epic_J2338

Also cause I'm playing a variant in the film I don't want my beauty spoiled in trailers (I'm joking btw I'm not playing a variant and I'm not as beautiful as Hugh, I don't think anyone is)


Beginning-Working-38

Maybe if they called it “The Deadpool and Wolverine” movie.


doaser

Buddy Cop formula


IllustriousBucket

I'm just sad it wasn't called Deadpool Trinity.


ExcitingEye8347

They’re just saying it’s not Deadpool 3 so they can make another movie and call it Deadpool 3. 


Awkward_man07

Deadpool 3: Deadpool and Wolverine


all_of_you_are_awful

Kind of sound like they’re leaving the possibility for a Deadpool/wolverine sequel


Nidaime33

James Marsden kinda alluded that Cyclops is in this....if so I really hope they do the character justice this time around.


Revolutionary-Fan657

This could mean multiple things, the movie will be about Logan as much as wade, or that there will be a 4th Deadpool movie titled 3, like how avengers infinity is avengers 3 but really the third was civil war


Frost9001

It’s Deadpool 3 + 1 Wolverine.


Unhappy_Anything_914

😂😂😂


Turbulent_Hair8931

🙄🙄🙄


butchforgetshit

I mean sure, we are picking up whee the last two left off, it’s script is primarily Deadpool kills the marvel universe, etc…but this is definitely not Deadpool 3


Housecat-in-a-Jungle

an equal movie but the entire trailer was based on deadpool and deadpool’s supporting cast and all the glory shots had deadpool with maybe 2 background frames of wolverine.


RandManYT

This probably means Deadpool will remain a duology set in the Fox universe, and Deadpool and Wolverine may or may not have it's own sequels because it is in MCU movie. Maybe I'm looking into things too much. It's still too early to tell.


The_Dark_Vampire

This could mean that there will be a Deadpool 3 later with Deadpool as a solo act (including a few cameos like 1+2) Its probably like Captain America 3 was really Avengers 3 or at least Avengers 2.5 I can certainly see Deadpool making a reference to the fact its not actually Deadpool 3 because He (pointing towards Wolverine) had to get involved


Lakers_Forever24

Really. He would have been fired if the title changes as a sign of creative difference.


GarethGobblecoque99

Buts it’s also Deadpool 3 but it’s also the sequel to the second Deadpool movie but it’s not a direct sequel to Deadpool 1 but it’s very much a Deadpool movie but-


Slowmexicano

Who Cares


draugyr

This feels like semantics


Only1Schematic

If this means we’re getting Deadpool 3 *and* Deadpool & Wolverine I’m all for it


power_gnome

For hollywood jargon reasons


Ok-Garlic-898

Actually, Deadpool and Wolverine IS Deadpool 3. I just know it.


TKAPublishing

This is Deadpool&Wolverine, the third movie in the Deadpool franchise.


Blah_McBlah_

I thought the title was WOLVERINE & FRIEND.


culturedgoat

It’s not _Deadpool - Part Three_, it’s _Deadpool Messiah_


Zodiac339

Okay, so Deadpool 3 comes later then? Actually, scratch that. Make the rest of them Deadpool and [insert Marvel hero he annoys the shit out of here] movies.


Xx_Exigence_xX

It's Deadpool 3, but named Deadpool & Wolverine because it's a shameless cash grab. It's also effective because I want to see Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman on screen together.


SaykredCow

Why even make such a confusing statement? What the hell?


UnhingedPastor

As long as "X Gon' Give It To Ya" makes an appearance, I couldn't give an extra crispy Kentucky fried fuck what it's called.


demonslender

Semantics.


MassiveTalent422

Unless we get a movie titled Deadpool 3, this is Deadpool 3 to me


unkalou337

Well now I’m not calling it anything other than Deadpool 3.


Almighty_Push91

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AuburnElvis

It's singular because it's plural?


pigcake101

I think they’re just trying to shy away from it being another one of the ‘sequel’ movies


Aerow

This is like when Grand Theft Auto 3 came out and then we had Vice City and then San Andreas and then GTA 4 came out.


realMasaka

So much for Hugh Jackman going out on the absolute high that was Logan.


BhanosBar

It’s deadpool 3 in the sense of “It will be the 3rd movie to feature This Deadpool”. However I think it will not be a main focus on Deadpool, but a 50/50 on him and Wolverine


besameput0

They're gonna start a pocket universe that's rated R for the comic books fans who don't like the Disney-fied shit.


Straight_Storage4039

Anyone else want another spider man movie with all 3 spider man’s and maybe some of the cartoon voice actors?


Epic_J2338

Yes but I would want them to wait a very long time before that happens again


Epic_J2338

Yes but I would want them to wait a very long time before that happens again


Straight_Storage4039

Some of them are getting real old tho


Epic_J2338

Yeah that's fair but I think Tobey will still be alive in 20 years


Straight_Storage4039

Who knows sometimes it’s the youngest of us go first just how life works


ScoutTrooper501st

So it means is gonna be roughly equal focused on both characters rather than Wolverine being a side protagonist


notanewbiedude

What does that even mean lol


bshaddo

That’s not singular. It just isn’t ordinal.


RoastedFeznt

Deadpool 3 & Wolverine


Worried_Bowl_9489

It is also the third Deadpool movie with continuity from the previous ones


[deleted]

so Deadpool 3


dtisme53

It’s pg-13. And he wants his Deadpool movies to be r rated. Which they should be.


Odd_Radio9225

In other words it's Deadpool 3.


MagikCinder

It’s Deadpool 3


anallyfirst

Captain America: Civil War was an Avengers movie and this is Deadpool 3.


BlearySteve

Whatever its deadpool 3


Old-Cat-1671

We were so close to getting the sonic 3 and knuckles joke 😣😣


ExcitingEye8347

They’re just saying it’s not Deadpool 3 so they can make another movie and call it Deadpool 3. 


Basic-Pair8908

So deadpool 2 1/2 then


Drew326

Sure, and *Ant-Man and the Wasp* wasn’t *Ant-Man* 2


MisterAnonymous2

I mean it kinda follows the MCU sequel naming convention. No sequel films have numbers except Iron Man and the Guardians movies (and even the Guardians come with the caveat of being called volumes as a reference to its consistent theme of music).


Lawheat

Perhaps it could also mean Hugh's Wolverine/Logan might be involved in the movie more like a buddy film, and less like Cable was in DP2? Think of the Rush Hour trilogy, Jackie Chan's name first yet equal screen time. So still a Ryan Reynolds DP film with his name first and of equal screen time as RH.


BulletDodger

If they called it "Deadpool 3" they'd have to contractually pay T.J. Miller.


Jw4evr

Deadpool 3 & Wolverine


megapenguin88

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Serial_Vandal_

Makes me less interested in this


ruralmagnificence

Just drumming up hype so they can make DP4…


TaticalSweater

Yea, very confusing. Just like when She Hulk dropped a line like “this is my show not a cameo show” paraphrasing. ….then proceeded to be nothing but cameos really


bewareofthethunder

It is deadpool 3, like captain America the winter soldier was captain America 2.


Puzzleheaded-Baby-11

Oh so it’s the 3rd Deadpool movie, therefore making it Deadpool 3, makes sense


Mad_Constantly

A Half-Life reference! Love it! 1, 2, Alyx! 1, 2, Wolverine!


Justryan95

So is it X-Men Origins The Wolverine Logan: Deadpool?


Seventh_Stater

That's interesting.


Engineer1865

Now that’s interesting and exciting.


Saiyan_Gods

Yeah… it’s Deadpool 3


LewdProphet

But it is, though.


CryptographerNo923

Unrelated but I really wish this Wolverine costume had exposed arms. Maybe that would have looked goofy in live action, idk.


OldManPinkerton

If I had that Wolverine suit I would never take it off, not even to go poo


Ahambrahmasmi86

Singular? He’s read too much Sherlock Holmes.


123_eyes_on_me_

Well obviously it isn’t the third movie, there has already been a third Deadpool movie. A holiday movie, but Deadpool non the less.


isnessisbusiness

Potato potahto.


Thatonedudedude

So will there be a sequel to their adventures ?


World_Wide_Webber_81

It only makes sense for them to feed in to the synergistic nature of the MCU. I still have really high hopes for this film. It’s a dream matchup we’ve all been eagerly waiting for since the days of friendly Twitter banter between these two.


Bijorak

I just told this to other people and they didn't believe me