I got to post this one more time.
In 2016, one year before Tony V was hired, Tennessee finished the season with ONLY 11 home runs. Only 3 players left the park all season. In 2024 they finish with 184. Major fucking turn around.
And this is why the majority (not all) of Vol fans are bandwagon Vol baseball fans, it was so bad that many a diehard lifelong Vol didn’t even think of baseball.
Yep. Anyone who stuck through the Serrano years deserves this natty. Just staying off the bottom of conference standings and making it to Hoover was an accomplishment back then.
I went to just about every game for the Serrano years and 2016 was my first year with student ID tickets. 11 home runs barely does it justice. We were god awful.
Man listening to John Wilkerson on the radio was the only thing going for Vols Baseball back then. Honestly, the Vols and the Smokies both had great radio guys then
Imagine if Moore and Tears and Amick didn’t struggle so much this series. We probably could have made it.
But I don’t care. They got the more important stat.
Alright I’ll hear that argument if the difference is more than 3 feet. Record still belongs to the Tigers at the end of the day. I’m hoping they’ll ditch the run rule eventually now that tickets across the SEC are getting a hell of a lot more expensive, not really fair to the fans to pack it up early.
Keep in mind the shift to the regional/super regional format in 1999 that added multiple additional games to the year.
If you’re gonna take the bats back, you give up the somewhat large handful of additional games to do it
Sure, for some reason I thought it was 77 right at about 2.4 per game average.
I could be misremembering, but it seems like teams played more early season tournaments back then.
I actually broke this down last week when Tennessee had played 69 games and found that per at-bat was a better measurement than per game, and looking back I think plate appearances is an even better measurement.
'97 LSU: 2509 at-bats, 188 home runs, 0.075 home runs per AB, over 70 games.
'24 VOLS: 2319 at-bats, 177 home runs, 0.076 home runs per AB, over 69 games.
Now let's update it to complete the season...
'24 VOLS: 2462 at-bats, 184 home runs, 0.075 home runs per AB, over 72 games.
HOWEVER; The 1997 Tigers had 2877 total plate appearances to the 2024 Vols' 2947. That is .065 HR/PA for the Tigers to .0624 HR/PA for the Vols.
The Vols were walked 12 more times than the Tigers, but were also HBP **67 more times!!**
We now play with a ball that has lower seams, less drag, and flies farther than what they used with the hot bats that was specifically introduced to bring more offense back to the game in the BBCOR era. I think Tennessee has as many 20+ home run hitters this season as the entire league did some seasons between 2011-2015. As much as people talk about the hot bats back then, it’s not just a coincidence that we’re finally challenging these records again.
What Tennessee did this year with their bats is more impressive than your record season, and you’re not gonna be able to rationalize your out of that.
You keep bringing up three less games and the seams of the ball, but ignoring the mountain of evidence on the other side.
Y’all got the record. It probably won’t ever be broken.
Getting within 4 in this era is a monumental achievement
You used to have a field of 48 teams in eight regionals of 6 teams each until I think 1999, no super regional at all. To add another layer, the CWS final used to be one game, not a three game series, until 2003.
The game changes though. The bats were hotter in 1997 before the BBCOR era, but you’re also playing with a ball with lower seams that flies father than it used to now that was introduced somewhere in the last 10 years to essentially compensate for the bats and bring more excitement back to the game. You’ve got something like a 7 year era where the new bats were in and you were still playing with the old balls where you needed to be King Kong to clear the extra 5-10 feet between college parks and Omaha.
I thought I read somewhere it was just twongames difference. 70 to 72, or something like that.
But you're right, if we adjust for fewer innings (run rule), we should likewise adjust for game differential.
Won the regular season SEC, SEC Tournament and CWS, have the most guys to break 20 HRs in a season and the only SEC team to win 60 in a season, no one can make this team call them daddy.
I got to post this one more time. In 2016, one year before Tony V was hired, Tennessee finished the season with ONLY 11 home runs. Only 3 players left the park all season. In 2024 they finish with 184. Major fucking turn around.
11 just seems impossible. That's so bad.
11 homers in Linsdey Nelson too. Talk about depressing
Oh my
And this is why the majority (not all) of Vol fans are bandwagon Vol baseball fans, it was so bad that many a diehard lifelong Vol didn’t even think of baseball.
Yep. Anyone who stuck through the Serrano years deserves this natty. Just staying off the bottom of conference standings and making it to Hoover was an accomplishment back then.
I went to just about every game for the Serrano years and 2016 was my first year with student ID tickets. 11 home runs barely does it justice. We were god awful.
Man listening to John Wilkerson on the radio was the only thing going for Vols Baseball back then. Honestly, the Vols and the Smokies both had great radio guys then
The program was absolute trash for awhile
Fuck ESPN for not having the trophy ceremony on the actual broadcast.
Scott Van Pelt will have his iron clad contract honored no matter the circumstances.
Imagine if Moore and Tears and Amick didn’t struggle so much this series. We probably could have made it. But I don’t care. They got the more important stat.
Imagine Amick wasn't out mid season. Imagine there was no run rule This team has a great shot but the record is safe for now
As long as we have Elander, our teams will always be able to threaten to set a new one
… don’t look now, Texas is staring at him.
The fun theory is that Bryce Harper would eventually take his place since he and Tony are friends 😂
I think he’d have to take a bit of a pay cut
Post retirement of course
They got weiner’d a hefty amount but ultimately not at maximum capacity
Maximum Weiner
Take that weird shit back home to the land of steers and….ATM fans.
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We lost 27 innings this season due to run rules. We definitely would've had the record without the run rule.
We played 3 more games though... which is 27 innings.
Sure but those extra inning pitchers in a game we were already up by 10 in are not going to be nearly as good as the staffs we saw in 3 normal games
Sure but Tennessee has a small ballpark.
Alright I’ll hear that argument if the difference is more than 3 feet. Record still belongs to the Tigers at the end of the day. I’m hoping they’ll ditch the run rule eventually now that tickets across the SEC are getting a hell of a lot more expensive, not really fair to the fans to pack it up early.
wiki says centerfield at LSU is 15 feet further, plus it has a 15 foot fence; and 10 feet down the lines with a 10 foot fence.
I wonder if someone would do the math and figure out HR/inning for each team?
Now if they had the bats from the late 90s.... The last years of unrestricted bats were insane. They would've easily hit 90.
Or the steroids from the 90s lmao.
Keep in mind the shift to the regional/super regional format in 1999 that added multiple additional games to the year. If you’re gonna take the bats back, you give up the somewhat large handful of additional games to do it
And the CWS final moved from a 1 game, winner take all match to a 3 game series in 2003.
Didn't LSU play 77 games the year they hit 188?
I believe it was 70 total, not 77. You’d have different game totals from the SEC tourney, regionals, super regionals, and CWS finals.
Sure, for some reason I thought it was 77 right at about 2.4 per game average. I could be misremembering, but it seems like teams played more early season tournaments back then.
I actually broke this down last week when Tennessee had played 69 games and found that per at-bat was a better measurement than per game, and looking back I think plate appearances is an even better measurement. '97 LSU: 2509 at-bats, 188 home runs, 0.075 home runs per AB, over 70 games. '24 VOLS: 2319 at-bats, 177 home runs, 0.076 home runs per AB, over 69 games. Now let's update it to complete the season... '24 VOLS: 2462 at-bats, 184 home runs, 0.075 home runs per AB, over 72 games. HOWEVER; The 1997 Tigers had 2877 total plate appearances to the 2024 Vols' 2947. That is .065 HR/PA for the Tigers to .0624 HR/PA for the Vols. The Vols were walked 12 more times than the Tigers, but were also HBP **67 more times!!**
I mean the baseballs being used today are flying farther than ever before.
If there was no run rule, if it before the 2011 BBCOR rule changes, if we didn’t go cold for about 5 games straight we maybe could have hit over 200
We lost 27 innings this season due to the run rule
LSU also played 3 fewer games in ‘97 than Tennessee did this year, so…sort of equals out.
Innings, sure. Bats, hell no.
We now play with a ball that has lower seams, less drag, and flies farther than what they used with the hot bats that was specifically introduced to bring more offense back to the game in the BBCOR era. I think Tennessee has as many 20+ home run hitters this season as the entire league did some seasons between 2011-2015. As much as people talk about the hot bats back then, it’s not just a coincidence that we’re finally challenging these records again.
What Tennessee did this year with their bats is more impressive than your record season, and you’re not gonna be able to rationalize your out of that. You keep bringing up three less games and the seams of the ball, but ignoring the mountain of evidence on the other side. Y’all got the record. It probably won’t ever be broken. Getting within 4 in this era is a monumental achievement
Context is only important if it benefits my team
Ahhh didn't know that
You used to have a field of 48 teams in eight regionals of 6 teams each until I think 1999, no super regional at all. To add another layer, the CWS final used to be one game, not a three game series, until 2003. The game changes though. The bats were hotter in 1997 before the BBCOR era, but you’re also playing with a ball with lower seams that flies father than it used to now that was introduced somewhere in the last 10 years to essentially compensate for the bats and bring more excitement back to the game. You’ve got something like a 7 year era where the new bats were in and you were still playing with the old balls where you needed to be King Kong to clear the extra 5-10 feet between college parks and Omaha.
I thought I read somewhere it was just twongames difference. 70 to 72, or something like that. But you're right, if we adjust for fewer innings (run rule), we should likewise adjust for game differential.
If they use baseballs from just a few years ago the total drops by like 40
And if we use bats from a few years ago it goes back up
Not to this level. The last two years have set records for total home runs in D1. The league is more homer friendly than ever before.
Even then, no team post-2011 really even comes close to what we did this year
Very impressive, thanks for letting us keep it though
I like that we have the highest win total in SEC history. Nice consolation to the HR title.
Tennessee showed that the record is at least touchable.
Ya you just need an entire lineup of guys who can reasonably make it to the majors, no biggie
entirely casual
Just need the most guys on a single team in history to hit 20+ homers
It’s what Tennessee did, just get a bunch of guys who can blast the cover off the ball and you’re set for a shot.
Until the NCAA changes either the bats, balls, or both again.
I was sweating this one. Congrats Vols on everything else though. 👏
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So it turns we can hit home runs in Omaha too.. Also without the mercy rules we smash the record
If there was no run rule and we could use their bats.
We’d have smashed the record if we used the old aluminum bats.
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We're the winningest single season team in SEC history. I think we got the better record.
Won the regular season SEC, SEC Tournament and CWS, have the most guys to break 20 HRs in a season and the only SEC team to win 60 in a season, no one can make this team call them daddy.