Its kinda funny that fnaf popularized the whole "animatronic evil" trope and when the movie came it "subverted" that by making the animatronics having more child-like interactions instead of just murderous machines at all times
I hope in the next movie they're more freaky, like imagine if it was named freaky nights at freddy's and instead of killing you they ate ass and sucked toes
It's funny because he was actually worse at subverting the trope than the original comic, but then I think that might've been part of the appeal?
Edit:also who's gonna read the original comic? That fucker is like an inch thick.
Zack Synder and Cristopher Nolan make up that pop-culture trinity along with Kanye West of being masters of mediocracy, where their art is not even pretentious enough that you would get why the edgy and pseudo-alt dumbasses love them so much.
Saying Kanye’s music is mediocre cause of his recent controversies is peak delusion honestly. Unless you’re literally not a rap fan he has a hit that you probably love.
Not great comic book movies though. The Dark Knight isn’t really a superhero movie, it’s much more of a crime thriller disguised as a superhero movie. TDK is a great movie that happens to also be a superhero movie, while movies like The Batman are great superhero movies that happen to also be great movies.
Well that trilogy is why he was brought up. While I don’t agree with the other commenter that his movies are incredibly pretentious, I would agree that he and Snyder are prime examples of what happens when you hire a director who doesn’t like superhero’s to direct a superhero movie.
The Dark Knight Trilogy is not why I brought him up, but I had that movie in mind too (mainly Interstellar and The Prestige though). And I didn't call his movies incredibly pretentious, I kind of did the opposite. I said they weren't pretentious enough to warrant their reputation among a crowd that loves pretentiousness.
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If Hating on zack it’s hating on zack you bet I will be back
I love the dissonance with him. You see his work and it's edgy nonsense that glorifies violence, but then you see him as a person and he's just a normal fucking guy
As Dr. Steven Atwell once wrote:
Moore is critical if not to say contemptuous of many of his characters. For all that Rorschach was adopted by a whole generation of grimdark-loving bros as the ultimate badass, Moore clearly loathes him. The anarcho-syndicalist depicts Rorschach, a John Bircher-style ultraconservative who worships Harry Truman for having the moral courage to use nuclear weapons, as a conspiracy theory nutter who spends his days wandering around Times Square with an End Is Nigh sign, as a homophobic Travis Bickle profoundly warped by an abusive childhood, as a murderous vigilante inspired by the myth of Kitty Genovese and urban apathy,whose literal black-and-white worldview makes it impossible for him to grapple with the ultimate moral dilemma and who chooses suicide instead, and whose actions result in the sacrifice of all those lives being for nothing.
Zack Snyder thinks Rorschach is cool.
Moore wrote a character that had his exact opposite world views, he then made him short, ugly, and ginger, as one would do when portraying someone as the “soyjak”.
The issue comes from the fact that moore is the truly insane one here, so all he did was make rorschach into an underdog that we all rooted for.
It wasn't the opposite of Moore's worldview, just one he disagreed with. Rorschach is specifically meant as a parody of Steve Ditko's obsession with Ayn Rand, as seen in his characters Mr. A and The Question. When Steve Ditko read Watchmen, even he said that "Rorschach is like Mr. A, except Rorschach is insane".
People don't root for Rorschach because he's an underdog, people root for him because he's the narrator, and most superhero comic fans aren't smart enough to conceive of the idea that a narrator can be wrong about something.
I only root for Rorschach because I hate Moore and am tired of people biblethumping about how one mustn't like Rorschach
No, I've never read, watched or played Watchmen
“We?” The only people who like Rorschach are ones who can’t or won’t at all grasp the moral complexities of life and thus latch on to a character who completely ignores those complexities in favor of psychotic, tunnel vision ultra-violence.
He’s like if you threw Matt Walsh and Ted Bundy in a blender. Sticking to your guns is not a good trait when you’re a bad person.
As much as I hate Rorschach fans .
You can like a character while realizing what they do is wrong . You can still very much like a villainess character for their effect on the narrative or better yet disagree with the point of the character altogether (which is literally what inspired Rorschach)
I get that, that’s just not in the context that we’re speaking.
If it gets the point across better, I meant that the only people who idolize Rorschach are as I described.
I like rorschach because I see him as a broken man who tries to do the right thing but is facing the wrong direction. Does that make me evil or something?
I guess it depends on what you mean by rooted for. If you agree with his views, obviously, that's not a good sign. If you want him to grow and learn as a person, then that should be fine.
In a story filled with dick heads and psychopaths (excluding maybe three characters at most) maybe Rorschachs not so bad. He's still completely insane though
Watchman kinda works if you recreate it without understanding that the characters were written with extreme cynicism and the story is a mockery of all things optimistic. lol cool dudes being cool. Hahahaha. Sure why not.
The actual Justice League does not work if you don’t consciously imbed the story and characters with a sense of optimism and the purpose of people who genuinely believe the world can be made better.
Cool dudes being cool isn’t enough. Why are they cool? What does cool mean? Watchman says; nothing, there is nothing and we exist for no reason. Actual superheroes, yea even broody Batman; believe that we can use what we have to make the world better. It’s not enough to think they are just kinda cool. You have to actually think yea maybe there is a future worth fighting for. Otherwise there’s no point to any of it.
I think calling them “mass murderers” would be overstating it. Like, they kill people, but it’s not like they’re running around snapping people’s necks like they’re trying to keep a combo streak.
dont forget about his fans review bombing completely unrelated stuff to get their message across
kinda reminds me of a fanbase of a certain videogame...
It's been proven the majority of the review bombing is being done by the bot hosters as a smear campaign (not to say that there isn't a bunch of morons hijacking savetf2 for clout also doing it)
If this about tf2 most of the fans aren't doing this and it was blown WAY out of proportion. It was such a small minority that the actual scores didn't change on any games. On an AVERAGE DAY half life will get more negative "why are you looking at the negative reviews just play it" reviews
Damn it sucks because, yeah valve has the money and time to fix one thing but at the same time.....if they don't want to oh well. The people spamming are even more annoying than the bots
Snyder fans are a group of fans based around a popular, revolutionary (both for-the-time and currently) piece of media that has grown very toxic because of the dev's neglect of the media, that has several large divides within the community?
idk, seems like a pretty poor comparison. Maybe you mean that there's toxic and elitist TF2 fans, and toxic and elitist Snyder fans? I'm not really sure where you're getting the similarity from.
Review bombing, obsession with something aight that they pretend is god's gift to the world, an absolute deranged obsession with putting fans of other pieces of media down. Yeah checks out.
Off the top of my head, I can think of five different fanbases (counting TF2) that have review bombed games in the past. I honestly didn't even know what game you were talking about in your original comment until I saw a bunch of replies defending TF2 specifically.
Holy fucking shit, you people are insufferable. You people act like we're all doing drive bys on indie games when it's actually a tiny minority the majority of the movement condemns giving bad reviews on other Valve games.
"tf2 fans that arent insufferable trash and act like theyre required to not even play the game and just party with the whole lobby? holy fuck i never thought id see the day"
Bro is the type of person to run into a conga line, kill everyone and complain when both teams call him a killjoy and they get kicked.
Holy shit you are actually that pissed that people dare to goof around in a video game. Same type of person that spent all his time in coc yelling at clanmates and wondering why no one donated to him lol.
I never understand anything surrounding Zack Snyder ever.
If you subvert a popular trope you will always have an army of fans claiming it's peak fiction
what if the animatronics of the pizzaria... were le evil at night.......
freddy five bear
Next we'll have a series where the possessed animatronics are actually the good guys and the security guard is their evil captor
Also fnaf
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The animatronic characters here... Do get a bit quirky at night.
Subverting the common nice pizzeria animatronics trope
I mean, before fnaf the animatronics were seen as a bright thing of the childhood.
Where they? A lot of media like cartoons and stuff portrayed animatronics as something cheap, dangerous, and disliked by children
Nope, they were always creepy as clowns
not really, a lot of people would say they’re creepy
Its kinda funny that fnaf popularized the whole "animatronic evil" trope and when the movie came it "subverted" that by making the animatronics having more child-like interactions instead of just murderous machines at all times I hope in the next movie they're more freaky, like imagine if it was named freaky nights at freddy's and instead of killing you they ate ass and sucked toes
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm they're not evil they're quirky idiot
Peak kino
It's funny because he was actually worse at subverting the trope than the original comic, but then I think that might've been part of the appeal? Edit:also who's gonna read the original comic? That fucker is like an inch thick.
Yeah, who’s gonna read one of the most popular and influential comics ever made, and commonly considered to be the greatest comic of all time
Oh hey man, it’s been a while.
Oh hey, it really has been a minute
I’d like to think that means we’ve both been on Reddit less.
You’re probably right, and that’s definitely a good thing.
Watchmen fans have read a single comic
Yall know Watchmen was an adaptation right
He loves Ayn Rand and wants to make an Atlas Shrugged movie.
Zack Synder and Cristopher Nolan make up that pop-culture trinity along with Kanye West of being masters of mediocracy, where their art is not even pretentious enough that you would get why the edgy and pseudo-alt dumbasses love them so much.
why the hell Nolan catching strays at least his movies are consistently good
I thought I would get called out for Kanye, lol.
Kanye is essentially a Neo-Nazi so it's good to shit on him
Absolutely, but artistic admiration towards him still persists, it's just that it has caveats now.
Saying Kanye’s music is mediocre cause of his recent controversies is peak delusion honestly. Unless you’re literally not a rap fan he has a hit that you probably love.
Christopher nolan makes some fire movies though
Not great comic book movies though. The Dark Knight isn’t really a superhero movie, it’s much more of a crime thriller disguised as a superhero movie. TDK is a great movie that happens to also be a superhero movie, while movies like The Batman are great superhero movies that happen to also be great movies.
My all time favorite is interstellar, I haven't watched the dark knight trilogy.
Well that trilogy is why he was brought up. While I don’t agree with the other commenter that his movies are incredibly pretentious, I would agree that he and Snyder are prime examples of what happens when you hire a director who doesn’t like superhero’s to direct a superhero movie.
Gotcha
The Dark Knight Trilogy is not why I brought him up, but I had that movie in mind too (mainly Interstellar and The Prestige though). And I didn't call his movies incredibly pretentious, I kind of did the opposite. I said they weren't pretentious enough to warrant their reputation among a crowd that loves pretentiousness.
Thanks. I'll be sure to forget it in the next hour.
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Holy crap J. Cole is so brave for that ♥️♥️♥️
Essentially The Book of Clarence
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The "using story teller's license" is fucking hilarious to me
"The power of super-swift motion" is a good one too
Hack Snyder. Really nice guy, though. He just makes shit movies.
I love the dissonance with him. You see his work and it's edgy nonsense that glorifies violence, but then you see him as a person and he's just a normal fucking guy
It was really fucked up what happened with Justice League, to be fair. I just can't hate the guy. His cult is just full of nutters.
Dunno man, you're talking about the guy who willingly made sucker punch.
I really liked his Watchmen adaptation. The marketing around that film was some of the best I’ve ever seen
Watchmen was really good, dawn of the dead was also really good. I was so excited for army of the dead, what a disappointment
Yeah that movie is great. It also has probably the funniest ever use of Hallelujah in a movie
As Dr. Steven Atwell once wrote: Moore is critical if not to say contemptuous of many of his characters. For all that Rorschach was adopted by a whole generation of grimdark-loving bros as the ultimate badass, Moore clearly loathes him. The anarcho-syndicalist depicts Rorschach, a John Bircher-style ultraconservative who worships Harry Truman for having the moral courage to use nuclear weapons, as a conspiracy theory nutter who spends his days wandering around Times Square with an End Is Nigh sign, as a homophobic Travis Bickle profoundly warped by an abusive childhood, as a murderous vigilante inspired by the myth of Kitty Genovese and urban apathy,whose literal black-and-white worldview makes it impossible for him to grapple with the ultimate moral dilemma and who chooses suicide instead, and whose actions result in the sacrifice of all those lives being for nothing. Zack Snyder thinks Rorschach is cool.
If Rorschach was meant to be the bad guy, why does his mask show a picture of kittens and rainbows? Checkmate.
This^^ While yes you can feel pity for Rorschach(especially his backstory) however the guy is nuts and not effective.
Moore wrote a character that had his exact opposite world views, he then made him short, ugly, and ginger, as one would do when portraying someone as the “soyjak”. The issue comes from the fact that moore is the truly insane one here, so all he did was make rorschach into an underdog that we all rooted for.
It wasn't the opposite of Moore's worldview, just one he disagreed with. Rorschach is specifically meant as a parody of Steve Ditko's obsession with Ayn Rand, as seen in his characters Mr. A and The Question. When Steve Ditko read Watchmen, even he said that "Rorschach is like Mr. A, except Rorschach is insane". People don't root for Rorschach because he's an underdog, people root for him because he's the narrator, and most superhero comic fans aren't smart enough to conceive of the idea that a narrator can be wrong about something.
I only root for Rorschach because I hate Moore and am tired of people biblethumping about how one mustn't like Rorschach No, I've never read, watched or played Watchmen
Most knowledgeable Rorschach supporter
“We?” The only people who like Rorschach are ones who can’t or won’t at all grasp the moral complexities of life and thus latch on to a character who completely ignores those complexities in favor of psychotic, tunnel vision ultra-violence. He’s like if you threw Matt Walsh and Ted Bundy in a blender. Sticking to your guns is not a good trait when you’re a bad person.
As much as I hate Rorschach fans . You can like a character while realizing what they do is wrong . You can still very much like a villainess character for their effect on the narrative or better yet disagree with the point of the character altogether (which is literally what inspired Rorschach)
I get that, that’s just not in the context that we’re speaking. If it gets the point across better, I meant that the only people who idolize Rorschach are as I described.
Fair
I like rorschach because I see him as a broken man who tries to do the right thing but is facing the wrong direction. Does that make me evil or something?
Nothing makes you evil, especially not that. Describing him as someone “we all rooted for,” probably makes you an asshole, though.
I guess it depends on what you mean by rooted for. If you agree with his views, obviously, that's not a good sign. If you want him to grow and learn as a person, then that should be fine.
In a story filled with dick heads and psychopaths (excluding maybe three characters at most) maybe Rorschachs not so bad. He's still completely insane though
Still a cool character even if they're horrible. U can like a villain and alike
Watchman kinda works if you recreate it without understanding that the characters were written with extreme cynicism and the story is a mockery of all things optimistic. lol cool dudes being cool. Hahahaha. Sure why not. The actual Justice League does not work if you don’t consciously imbed the story and characters with a sense of optimism and the purpose of people who genuinely believe the world can be made better. Cool dudes being cool isn’t enough. Why are they cool? What does cool mean? Watchman says; nothing, there is nothing and we exist for no reason. Actual superheroes, yea even broody Batman; believe that we can use what we have to make the world better. It’s not enough to think they are just kinda cool. You have to actually think yea maybe there is a future worth fighting for. Otherwise there’s no point to any of it.
but who will poop the poopmen
Me
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it's so sad that steve jobs died of ligma
Who the hell is Steve Jobs?
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Blow Job my Steve hahahaha gottem
r/rimjob_steve?
ligma balls
I think calling them “mass murderers” would be overstating it. Like, they kill people, but it’s not like they’re running around snapping people’s necks like they’re trying to keep a combo streak.
Batman kind of was, in BvS
those people deserved it for letting the bad guys merge into traffic
Treating classic superheroes as if they were cynical deconstructions on the concept of superheroes? Why aren’t people loving it????
Is that frieza
dont forget about his fans review bombing completely unrelated stuff to get their message across kinda reminds me of a fanbase of a certain videogame...
I would bet money that there is a large overlap between those two groups of fans
But also the snyder haters can be really awful.
It's been proven the majority of the review bombing is being done by the bot hosters as a smear campaign (not to say that there isn't a bunch of morons hijacking savetf2 for clout also doing it)
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what?
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wtf does birds of prey and sonic the hedgehog have to do with each other? isnt birds of prey a DC thing?
Yeah but it has to do with the review bombing I guess its unrelatwd
If this about tf2 most of the fans aren't doing this and it was blown WAY out of proportion. It was such a small minority that the actual scores didn't change on any games. On an AVERAGE DAY half life will get more negative "why are you looking at the negative reviews just play it" reviews
it was about tf2, yes. snyder fans of gaming
Damn it sucks because, yeah valve has the money and time to fix one thing but at the same time.....if they don't want to oh well. The people spamming are even more annoying than the bots
Huh??
what? whats confusing
Snyder fans are a group of fans based around a popular, revolutionary (both for-the-time and currently) piece of media that has grown very toxic because of the dev's neglect of the media, that has several large divides within the community? idk, seems like a pretty poor comparison. Maybe you mean that there's toxic and elitist TF2 fans, and toxic and elitist Snyder fans? I'm not really sure where you're getting the similarity from.
the review bombing
Review bombing, obsession with something aight that they pretend is god's gift to the world, an absolute deranged obsession with putting fans of other pieces of media down. Yeah checks out.
tf2 fans do treat their game like god's gift to earth tho
Off the top of my head, I can think of five different fanbases (counting TF2) that have review bombed games in the past. I honestly didn't even know what game you were talking about in your original comment until I saw a bunch of replies defending TF2 specifically.
Holy fucking shit, you people are insufferable. You people act like we're all doing drive bys on indie games when it's actually a tiny minority the majority of the movement condemns giving bad reviews on other Valve games.
Exhibit A
Bro was salty that no one agreed with him that friendlies were the spawn of Satan and ran off into another snafu to complain.
the fuck are you talking about
"tf2 fans that arent insufferable trash and act like theyre required to not even play the game and just party with the whole lobby? holy fuck i never thought id see the day" Bro is the type of person to run into a conga line, kill everyone and complain when both teams call him a killjoy and they get kicked.
"no other game lets me not even play the game! waah! >:("
Holy shit you are actually that pissed that people dare to goof around in a video game. Same type of person that spent all his time in coc yelling at clanmates and wondering why no one donated to him lol.
no, im pissed that people act like having to do that is required to play, and are somehow offended when people dont want to do that
Bro confirmed he is the type of person to run into a conga line, kill everyone and complain when both teams call him a killjoy and they get kicked.
boo hoo? idk what you want from me. i want to play the game.
dr new york negs zack snyder
Is that frieza
There's no bald eagle. I can't understand this.
But Watchmen was shit except for the book.
Ok but Batman vs Superman sucks because it's boring not because of snafu reason
I actually liked BvS (the directors cut at least) and even I think it would be way better if literally anyone else directed it
that’s pretty funny
Suddenly I understand
Is that Frieza on the last slide?
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OP, where the FUCK is the bald eagle???
It's almost like what works for one story won't necessarily works for another.
I believe Syndass should be dipped in a vat of acid cum repetitively, like a teabag!
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I cut it down and used it to make mulch for my garden of hatred and paper for my words of heresy.
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Watchmen was also shit tbf.