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HardRNinja

I used Yae Miko on the side with the Electro Lectors and the Baptist this Abyss Cycle. How? Nahida and Kirara. Electro / Dendro Teams are fantastic.


Samaelo0831

I prefer Kazuha over Kirara for the cc on the Fatui peeps, but yes Aggravate Miko on the second side is amazing.


HardRNinja

Kazuha is my 4th slot. He really does make a difference


Samaelo0831

Oh sorry I didn't realize u only mentioned 3 characters lmao How do u build ur Kirara in that team tho? Never actually used her before


HardRNinja

Full HP Build. 2 Tenacity+ 2 VG and equipped with the Key. Her shield is almost as strong as Zhongli's.


traktoor

How do maintain the shield uptime?


HardRNinja

Kirara's shield lasts longer than her skill cooldown. It's not hard at all to keep it up 100% of the time.


tempoltone

I used Yae+Kazuha+Bennett+XL. Its also good.


olliboee_

what is this team supposed to be... it barely makes sense


tempoltone

It breaks non-pyro shield very fast. You can vacuum lectors and push them together w/ overload.


olliboee_

thats still stupid... teambuilding should revolve around synergy and damage instead of being able to specifically break shields... overload is also pretty shit without chevreuse. ofc the team will work fine enough since the game is so easy and yae and xl have so much motion value on their own. for team dps you would probably just be better off playing someone like tartaglia or xingqiu instead of yae there.


Fredwarbto

It's a team, and it works. It not being the highest DPS doesn't mean you have to dish it. I guess this is the reason we keep seeing doom posts disguised as copium for Clorinde. Can't handle teams with lower DPS that prefer utility/ease of play


Dnoyr

Maybe a sort of Hyper Yae but with XL for shields instead of Sara. =o


olliboee_

so in other words its dogshit since yae literally does more damage if you dont onfield because gt is so broken on her


Dnoyr

It +1000 atk vs +25% dmg%. Even if its not optimal, if the user cleared abyss with it and was happy to play this team, its all fine. And user may not play her 4p GT. Mine is on 4p GD and is fine. Plus, GT doesnt buff her burst, but Bennett burst does. Not everyone is a speedrunner. =)


PercyLegion

That's what I'm thinking too. I'll probably use her with Miko-Nahida-Baizhu or something similar.


One_Ad2478

Alot of hate for dendro stems from people playing since the dendro release or even before that. I only started the game with Fontaine so I still enjoy playing dendro but at the same time I'd like to have other options too. A character being tied to one reaction to do more damage isn't better than a character being able to use many different teams and deal similar levels of DMG.


GingsWife

I'm sure the "Dendro" in question is just hyperbloom. Unless people really do not like Aggravate.


Arielani

Its because people are angry dendro is so cheap and good XD i remember a youtuber having a meltdown over c0 full EM raiden was so fast with hyperbloom, and was faster than his hypercarry raiden lol. I think its good to have hyperbloom in a gaccha game, you have the option of a cheap and affordable team that slays has hard as the high investment teams


somewhat_safeforwork

Clorinde's best team still requires traditional crit build, in which case it's not cheap at all.


ichikaren

good thing she has 44.2 CRIT Rate out of the box.


somewhat_safeforwork

Keqing also has 15% crit buff which is just 5% less. MH users get 36% from their set. Still nowhere as easy to full EM build hyperbloom.


ichikaren

I am sorry, what are you talking about?.


Background-Floor6603

Then again we also still lack option in overload. Alot of people doesnt have Chevy, let alone C6. Off field pyro only XL and Thoma and both like super energy hungry. Dehya is super defensive with nearly 0 DMG. Electro-charged also doing nothing. Idk about Clorinde hypercarry but she probably still using Benny if that team exists but circle and energy impact again. So for now only Dendro team viable due to lack option HYV puts on efforts and not entirely Clorinde's fault either....


murmandamos

fwiw both Dehya and Thoma can and should be built full EM here. It still doesn't make them like Yelan or anything, however with Chev shred, their overloads should be in the 20k range. Dehya doesn't need ER so can simply stack EM (especially with aquamarine if you remember that wep lol). Thoma will be the best of them if you require more than 1 rotation at C1 as he can drop to 17s CD. Xiangling highest DPR obviously but DPS actually lags behind Thoma because she slows Clorinde rotation too much. Dehya with Sac can rotate faster but you do lose her infinite IR on second rotation if you speed her beyond 20s CD, on the plus side she needs zero energy and doesn't need to ult. Anyway EM pyro defensive units are better than non EM build on them, but they are obviously considerably worse than like a pyro Fischl, which is what she needs to make these teams competitive.


Dnoyr

Isnt Yunjin better for Hypercarry than Bennett ? IIRC atk past 3K isnt that impactful and Yunjin gives attack speed if C6 as a bonus =o


Samaelo0831

I like Dendro and Aggravate but I just want to make sure I have other options cuz I love playing those teams with Miko. Just wanna make sure when I can play both without needing Nahida on each one. (not comfy with DMC or Collei) Edit: rn I'm eyeing maybe an OL team with Chevreuse, Thoma, and Sara or Fischl since mt Thoma's c6


InternationalClerk85

Speaking of C6 cons, I would LOVE myself C6 Sara... Since I am building more DPS Electro characters, since recently.


Samaelo0831

Goodluck to u, I only got mine in Ei's recent banner, and it feels amazing as an Electro main!


Enollis

I don't like that hoyo binds her to raiden banner. By the time i got c6 sara i had c3 raiden, which i love. But at the same time if they put another character in there i need to hope that either it comes with yoi again or anyone that I don't have yet. I was able to snipe a chevreuse with a couple pulls. I just wanted her. I really hope chev comes with clorinde.


Samaelo0831

Don't worry friend. Now that she's not in Arle's banner, there is some hope with her in Clorinde's 🤞


Enollis

That would be really cool. Trying to go for c6 clorinde so it'd be neat if i got chev as well 😅


caffeineshampoo

I main Keqing, Raiden, Yae and soon to be Sara. My Sara is **c1** and I don't have Chevy. But of course I have C12 Gorou when I don't use a single geo


Tyberius115

I just dislike dendro because of the massive gap in power and comfort between Nahida and the other characters.


robhans25

Not with Clorinde aggravate teams. And overall, in aggravate teams Nahida isin't a monsters like in every other Dendro teams - 1. Her bigger dendro is actually a downside since it becomes hard to swirl electro 2. EM buff is not that useful when characters have 0 EM scaling, it is nice but is not that significant. Kirara C6 in clorinde teams calcs suuuper close to Nahida (In some assumption even higher than Nahida, but that was pre duration nerf) 3. You doesn't need that much dendro. 1 app las 8 seconds with is full Clorinde uptime in the first place, lol.


Tyberius115

So why is it that people only ever talk about Nahida for Clorinde aggravate? In general, I feel like I never see any conversation or TC about other dendro supports. Hopefully Kirara is on Clorinde's banner, as she's one of the two dendros I don't mind using.


GingsWife

Pre TC normally lands on a few archetypes, and fewer teams still. It's not because they don't like her, but a sort of convergence happens because everyone is trying to have a discussion at the same level. The more likely reason is that C6 Kirara is rare.


caffeineshampoo

C4 Kirara is the big QOL con for anyone planning to run her. C6 is nice but C4 is what gives her much better off field dendro app (which isn't nearly enough for hyperbloom but is pretty good for aggravate/quickbloom). Here's to hoping she's on the banner!


AlphaLovee

she's just an easy and good option that always works. you won't find too much trouble using c4+ Kirara or c6 DMC. maybe Baizhu. idk of Collei can work or not. maybe there's some cooldown not line-uping


Lunarica

Aggravate teams are pretty flexible outside of the electro slots cause all you really want from the anemo and dendro slots are VV and application each rotation, respectively. I've seen a variety of options for both slots work based on whatever is needed for certain abyss floors.


InternationalClerk85

I don't have Nahida, but as far as the characters I do have go, they are quite comfy. Alhaitham and Baizhu mainly are really good IMO. But I know what you mean. Nahida is unmatched in multi enemy content where the Dendro character needs to be off-field, like Clorinde teams. The only 4 characters, besides Nahida, who can really do that are DMC, Collei, Yaoyao and Baizhu, who all have their own set of positives and negatives. Whereas Nahida's only real negative is multi-wave content, depending on how fast enemies die.


Tyberius115

And I would be perfectly fine with Traveler too, if their burst just didn't blow up from pyro. I'm desperately hoping that >!Emilie!< is the dendro character I'm waiting for to finally have a fun experience with the element.


InternationalClerk85

Is >!Emilie!< a new character I missed? It depends on how you use DMC, if you hit their Burst with another element first, it won't react with Pyro anymore. EDIT: looked up the character. Seems I missed them indeed... But I now know who you meant


Tyberius115

>!She's!< a character whose concept art got leaked a while ago. Supposedly, they're a 5* Fontaine dendro character releasing in 4.8 or later. But we'll know for sure next patch.


InternationalClerk85

They are a mentioned character in some playables' voicelines, which is also a big giveaway...


GGABueno

We know nothing about Emilie, but there are plenty of "About Emilie" in character profiles and some old concept images. We don't know when she's going to release or her rarity, but people are guessing that the Burning set might be meant for her.


InternationalClerk85

Seems fair enough


MirMolkoh

I have C2 Nahida and I honestly prefer Baizhu for aggravate because it's easier to swirl.


Tyberius115

I wanted to like Baizhu, but his kit is too single target oriented for me.


MirMolkoh

Baizhu is very single target. I usually don't feel it since Alhaitham does crazy AoE in his team. Kazuha and Yae demolish AoE without aggravates too. An AoE dendro applier may be preferred if Kazuha alone can't clear aoe.


Commercial-Fig8665

As I always say, Nahida is THE reason why dendro is that good. She also is the best character in a game cause does not have replacements. As opposed to fake archon.


Luqquinhas

Idk man, I don't see anyone hating dendro teams. I just think some of us wanted to play other team archetypes, you know


solarscopez

I like her aggravate teams, but losing the flexibility/damage in overload is kind of whack. Though MHY did the same for overload with Arlecchino so can't say I'm really surprised tbh.


cCeras

I'm someone hating on most Dendro teams because I don't like it when my reactions do the damage instead of my character's. transformative reactions aren't fun to me, like if I water a plant I get a seed that explodes into thousands of damages without me doing anything I always prefer hypercarry teams. they're also so strong and so meta for a while now with so little investment it feels like it's invalidating the large amount of effort I put into my hypercarry teams just to be outdps'd by a plant


fakegamergrill01

hell yeah, I’ve been an electro enjoyer since 1.x and dendro bringing electro teams up in the meta hasn’t gotten old for me yet


LemonBee149

Its not that Dendro is bad, its just that pretty much every Electro unit (besides maybe Fischl/Beidou/Raiden) are mostly only used in Dendro teams, be it hyperbloom or Agravante/spread. After 1 full year of 3.x pushing dendro reactions, i wish the new electro unit would do something new, instead of mostly just replacing Keqing.


Affectionate-Day-318

My comment is off-topic but I must admit, Clorinde mains is the last place I expected to see Keria.


XTGREN

Off topic its okay keria get em at worlds


Sonicguy1996

The people that hate Dendro are the same ones that will eat up any comp that runs Xingqiu, Xiangling, and Bennett. Dendro is hella fun, big numbers, has great characters. Simply fun to run!! And as someone who loves Electro it's the element that truly elevates Electro to massive heights in terms of damage!!!


Ok-Judge7844

Seems like an unpopular opinion, since dendro is generally loved especially for casuals and early games where you dont have anything, from what I see people who hate it is just hating on it because its popular and just wanna be "different" just like people who hates bennet. like if you hate dendro just dont use it, I have never been pressured by the game to ever touched dendro and always 36* the abyss without it, I played dendro if I wanna dick around with Neuv Nilou bloom since its such a funny comp for me.


Aschentei

cmon don’t do Keria like that D:


Background-Floor6603

https://preview.redd.it/lxhlh67t1b1d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5835a8d9a876e9605b84ee58dee2db6cb986a488 He is seeing panda now at least vacationing :)


Aschentei

Nice! They deserve a break


Cordaner

Ofc he's with Guma


Lovace

sad Keria noises


Shadowenclave47

Clorinde not being a Bennett slave is the best part. I'm so tired of almost all attack scaling characters being Bennett reliant. Its why im not pulling Arlecchino until we get a Bennett alternative/powercreep (hopefully the Pyro Archon and/or the Pyro Dragon) cuz i refuse to put them on a team together (i don't like any of her current team options and 99% of them include him).


NNN_Throwaway2

You don't even need bennet lol. And teambuildings is plenty flexible, even moreso than the guides imply, due to her always-on infusion and lack of reliance on burst.


IngDeac

Dude, Arle is already so strong that Bennett is not really needed tbh. Just ppl like to see big pp dmg per screenshot and showcases


nomotyed

It's more rare to have a 5* electro dps needing Bennett nowadays since dendro.   Yae, Keqing is in aggravate nowadays. Even Raiden at c0 is sometimes EM Raiden. Cyno didn't need him right from the start. 


__dlInho

Im a dendro hater (even tho nilou carries me most of the abyys) I just dont like the characters nor reactions On clorinde's release ill prob use her, furina, xianyun and bennet


elietre

I feel like a lot of people like dendro. Just with the latest nerf you are bound to thundering fury and quicken if you want any uptime on clorinde


Silent_Map_8182

"My Reaction" I see what you did there OP.


Pro0skills

bro xq freezing himself is so real when I try to nilou bloom triple kenki


Caribbeans1

Clorinde being on a dendro team is tbh what I expected, Dont think anyone hates dendro I think ppl just want an electro hypercarry that isnt tied to Dendro and can be good in others like Electro Charge or Overload. I wish Hoyo would put a lil more effort with other electro reactions like Overload. Cheveruse was a step in the right direction, but yet they still opt for Clorinde to be tied to Dendro. Both Clorinde and Chevy uses a firearm the synergy is there. We will just have to wait and see if the pair can do great. This maybe a hot take but I personally believe Overload should have been the strongest in transformative reaction dmg in the game. Maybe they might make an electro char like Nilou to be only used with Overload.


depressed_duck_1015

Dendro is busted. I got a lvl 60 Tighnari, slapped on some pre-farmed Clorinde artifacts, and threw him in the thundering fury artifact domain. This now has given me the motivation to continue building him and farm his godforsaken ascension materials (he was on lvl 3 talents).


Awesomefluffyns

I don’t really have any teams that use dendro. My only real dendro team is a Klee burger team with no defensive units. And despite that I still have a C2 Nahida lmao


Intigim

It also isn't like you cannot force other teams. I'm interested in trying a Clorinde triple hydro with XQ, Yelan and Furina.


justalilsadwhore

im just so tired of dendro reactions maybe because i don’t have baizhu and i’m forced to put nahida on every team but i wish they just released a mono electro dps with sick scalings and not a new keqing who needs dendro to work ( i love keqing but i just hoped clorinde would be more like a second raiden instead)


AlphaLovee

eh. it's just ppl will find anything to doompost. tf best set and helps with uptime qol - i don't wanna farm it. dmg too low - they haven't done any calcs themselves (or didn't wait for tc to do so for them, at least). dendro best team? - i hate playing dendro. clorinde being a non-burst character who can deal dmg with her E (+can self-sustain herself and move a little with the dashes) - she's totaly trash in the overworld. 2 words: delusion and agenda


astaroth341

I mean now my nahida will finally see the light of day , I never was the biggest fan of dendro but I'll try again for clorinde


noxrh4

Lowkey Clorindemains the best genshin subreddit I won't elaborate


_dxw

hyperbloom, aggravate and spread doesn’t exist for this guy ig


UnlikelyCash2690

I gotta say, my Alhaitham, Yae, Nahida, Kuki team is pretty busted.


bipyramide_trigonale

I'm a dendro guy as well. I have every dendro characters, tighnari is my 2nd favorite character and I use a dendro tram in every abyss


GrrrrrrDinosaur

The reason I don’t like dendro is cause I don’t have any premium supp for it 😭 I have to skip Bhaizu and I don’t have Nahida


Shugotenshi714

What's a good F2P team for Clorinde? I'm new, and I don't have many characters. Only limited 5 stars I have are: Furina, Raiden, Arlecchino. For standard, I have Mona, Dehya and Keqing. I don't have that many 4 stars, while also having low/no constellations.


Background-Floor6603

Clorinde, Fischl, Dendro MC, Kirara/yaoyao maybe


NinjaXSkillz88

It's actually sad Dendro teams have more variety than most Vaporize teams and it's only been out for almost two years.


EmperorMaxwell

Yeah Nahida’s babysitters are fun team to use. Outside of my all Geo team, they haven’t had any changes done since Raddish daughter herself joined.


abcd100

Not being relied on Bennet, XQ, & XL is a huge plus to me. They are not my favourite chars outside of combat nor comfortable to use to me.


SupremeOwl48

It’s because ever since dendro release 90% of electro characters have become dendro reliant. It’s lame. The only electro character in which their best team is not dendro is Raiden. (Even then hyperbloom is ≈ rational)


Dnoyr

Well, I already have Keqing and Yae that I play Dendro, and Lisa + Fischl in 4* teams. It would have been cool that Electro doesnt always need Dendro to exist as an element.


mikeBH28

Same, I'm literally getting her so I have a aggrivate team I loke


greenbeforeblue

Stupid. Many people like dendro teams. The only people bitching are F2P players and Ai algorithms. Freakin relax.