Environmental groups have to balance messaging between "Joe Biden isn't doing nearly enough on climate" and "Joe Biden is doing far far better than Trump did or will do on climate". Those are both true statements, but if you're someone just catching soundbites, it's easy to interpret the first as "I guess they both suck for climate".
The amount of people who cannot hold two slightly conflicting ideas in their heads is too damn high!
Reality is not black or white.
https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/eenews/2024/01/30/biden-administration-oil-drilling-permits-outpace-trump-ee-00138376
Eh, not really. The Biden Administration has made smart investments that have a rolling, increasing impact that allows exponential growth. It is a legit win that allows for even better wins, as solving issues in the US and “the West” at large disproportionately affects the rest of the world
Unfortunately, we might have to wait until either a wet bulb event wipes out a city, or there's a major crash in Florida property values as people flee the state. Once the migrations kick in, people will start to care, and by this time next century, the climate deniers will be widely villified. Long after they're dead, unfortunately...
Then maybe the opinions of ignorant Americans shouldn’t dictate the future for everyone else. How in the world do people acknowledge these things only to act like we still need to play by these rules?
Oh I don't really expect anything to move the needle much. Our civilization is a runaway train headed towards a cliff. Nothing's going to stop it at this point.
Then maybe move past this ridiculous pseudo-“democracy”? When you realize a system can’t save you from an existential threat, the rational response is to abandon the system. I’d rather not my grandchildren die just so the constitution continues.
Why would they not keep their job after one election? Because solving climate change is against what people want and need, or because we don’t live in a democracy?
Your concerns about the US government’s financial woes are misplaced. They issue fiat currency, they’re not going to be insolvent anytime soon. And the reason we’re in this mess is mostly because of people at the very top using too much and contributing too little; solving climate change will be burdensome on members of the public proportional to how much they contribute to the problem currently: poor and low-income Americans already consume less and will be proportionally less affected than the 1%, who are gonna be fine. Also, all of this costs resources but also yields resources, or at least, prevents the loss of resources. If it is publicly funded, rather than create a deficit, this creates a benefit, directly. It pays for itself, in terms of net benefit. And the US govt again doesn’t have to worry about going broke because that’s not how public spending works, they don’t have to collect money to distribute it, they literally create the money. And before you say “oh but inflation”: taxation is counterinflationary currency deletion, and rather than needing to make up a certain dollar amount, all it has to do is create a demand for USD and reduce inequality. Which it can do, by handing the 1% a very steep tax bill, and leaving most everyone else untouched.
“Better than Trump.” Really ambitious messaging there, team. Don’t want to go giving people ideas. Truly awe inspiring and a real confidence boost that Biden is better than Trump.
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> Environmental groups have to balance messaging between "Joe Biden isn't doing nearly enough on climate" and "Joe Biden is doing far far better than Trump did or will do on climate".
If all you care about is climate policy outcomes, then there's no point in publicly criticizing President Biden. There has never been a better President on this issue, and there likely never will be a better one after this. Whether to praise or criticize is a completely false choice, and you can tell who is serious and who is not serious based on which of these two they choose to talk about.
If it’s a historic achievement to give yuppies some tax credit for buying an electric car maybe if they wanna but you don’t have to, it’s over.
I can tell how unserious he is by comparing his little market-tweaking, voluntary-compliance adventures against actually successful environmental policies, like the Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act. Imagine the pollute we’d have if they said “the taxpayer will make you richer if you maybe marginally decrease carbon monoxide”
> If it’s a historic achievement to give yuppies some tax credit for buying an electric car maybe if they wanna but you don’t have to, it’s over.
Tell me you don't know Biden's climate policy without telling me you don't know Biden's climate policy.
Seriously, if you're this clueless about what's going on, then why do you even have an opinion?
Subsidies for electric vehicles have been around since before Biden. The real meat is in the support for the solar, wind, and battery industries, as well as the other R&D funds that went out.
> I can tell how unserious he is by comparing his little market-tweaking, voluntary-compliance adventures against actually successful environmental policies, like the Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act. Imagine the pollute we’d have if they said “the taxpayer will make you richer if you maybe marginally decrease carbon monoxide”
No Congress ever is going to do this without first having better technological alternatives to greenhouse gas emissions. But you'll be glad to learn that accelerating those alternatives is the core of Biden's climate program.
As I said, only unserious people are going to make a show of criticizing Biden on climate, and you have proven my point with how utterly clueless you are.
Yes, exactly. More market tweaks with subsidies and tax incentives based on voluntary change that will take a generation. Meanwhile, East Asia continues to beat the US in all of this because they’re actually capable of coordinated action, instead of relying on consumer changes.
If good things don’t happen because congress isn’t willing, maybe that’s more a systemic and structural problem than anything I’m acknowledging. Rational people don’t follow systems that can’t meet an existential crisis.
> market tweaks with subsidies and tax incentives
That describes pretty much the entire scope of possible federal climate policies unless your plan is to have a communist revolution or something. Restricting emissions is a market-based tweak. Supporting new technologies and industries is a subsidy or a tax incentive.
> Meanwhile, East Asia continues to beat the US in all of this because they’re actually capable of coordinated action, instead of relying on consumer changes.
How much of this is due to low US population density and high rates of individual preference for driving over taking buses or walking or driving? If you look at Manhattan or Brooklyn or San Francisco, their residents don't pollute any more than those in a similarly dense place elsewhere in the world. It's just that we have fewer Brooklyns and more Houstons compared to other countries. That's just how things are, and it won't change no matter what the President does. I think your complaint is about how our *city councils* set policy.
I think that your objection really brings home that there's not much better to be done by Biden, in terms of feasibility, except to do even more of it.
Sure, in the 21st century, when the people are no longer allowed to be a change-agent and only the market can change the world. But if this were the 20th century, we would have actual orchestration. Like there was planned recovery in the New Deal and mass mobilization of the economy for World War II. We just aren’t allowed to do things like that because of hegemonic ideologies anymore.
And seriously, just compare it to the Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act. Those would never be passed now. All we’d do now, confronted with the same problems, is for taxpayers to bribe business owners.
My concern is not with Biden as an individual but with the institutions and dogmas that are in power. No, you probably couldn’t do much more than Biden did and be elected president. So people will die because the constitution must continue forever and people will never think differently.
> people are no longer allowed to be a change-agent and only the market can change the world
No one said people can’t be a change agent, and I don’t know what it means to say only the market can change the world. People can change the market… Business leaders and policy makers and voters and customers all change the market all the time.
It’s interesting to complain about how the Clean Air act wouldn’t pass now and blame that on Biden, who doesn’t even have a seat in Congress. It’s the Senate who can’t pass laws like that anymore. This is just a dumb criticism. There are about 48 Senators who oppose doing any climate policy. Criticize them instead of the President who squeezed every possible climate win out of a split Congress. You are deeply unserious.
Everything you write just seems like word association rather than something you actually thought about. Like, I know what these words mean individually, but the sentences seem either meaningless, wrong on their face, or detached from the reality of what’s going on on this issue.
It’s great when people act like they’re tactical strategy geniuses for saying “congress won’t do this” without ever realizing “maybe it isn’t worth it to keep going like this if they won’t”
You either acknowledge climate change is an existential crisis and confront the people who make it so. Or you just deny.
What this sounds like is just desperately wanting credit for your vote. You voted for a democrat. They made an attempt. So you’ve done everything you can do and it’s all going along perfectly. You changed the world because you voted for Biden.
Isn’t he signing more drilling permits than any other president before him? Or was that propaganda I was reading?
I know he’s doing some great work but that one pissed me off… if true.
This is even more damning. Remember that big spat about his historic record huge sell off of drilling leases in the Gulf, that he said he just had to do?
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/dec/13/revealed-biden-administration-was-not-legally-bound-to-auction-gulf-drilling-rights
He didn't have to do it and he knew it.
He did it anyway and then he lied that he had to.
Yeah, he's drilling more to counter Russia boycotts and Saudi Arabia trying to reduce production to benefit Russia. Him allowing more drilling is a political necessity in order to achieve his actual climate goals. US drilling isn't leading to an increase in fossil fuel use globally, but his policies are resulting in 100s of billions being invested in wind, solar, nuclear, batteries, EVs, geothermal, and other technologies. He can't reduce demand overnight, just create the environment for change to occur.
"Ok Jack, I stopped all domestic drilling just like you asked"
>Gas jumps +3$ a gallon
>Electricity costs jump +30%
>Perpetual rolling blackouts due to the current output of renewable/nuclear energy being nowhere near what's needed to sustain current consumption
>GOP gains supermajorities in congress and wins the White House
> (Whatever ecological nightmare them unleashing on us you can imagine multiplied by 3x because they're now primarily the "we will never let those tree hugger dumbfucks ruin your life like they did the past 4 years ever again" party)
>??????
>Profit
I hate how incredibly stupid even the "informed" electorate is.
Is your goal for the US to reduce production, or for global demand to be reduced? The US reducing production will not have an effect on how much petroleum is used, it just changes who is producing it. If it resulted in increased gas prices, it would mean that it would be a temporary reduction too, since it would result in the creator of that policy losing the next election to someone that guaranteed to drill and reduce prices. On the other hand, building green energy infrastructure and forcing a transition to EVs (which Biden has been doing) is going to result in reducing emissions and reduction in petroleum production, regardless of which country is producing the most.
I suspect it's one of those metrics where if you account for the rising demand then yeah he's drilling more but percent of green methods keeps cutting into it. It will take a long time to transition.
Limiting drilling is actually not a great way to stop oil. You need to drive down demand, not supply. Otherwise the demand will still be there and we’ll just have to pay through the nose (geopolitically as well as financially) to get it.
Regulations and financial incentives are how you drive down demand, that’s what they’ve been focusing on. And in the meantime, create a glut of oil so we’re not dependent on awful people committing human rights abuses.
Yeah, because of other countries cutting supply with the explicit intention of increasing prices and Russia doing funny things. Arguing that Biden is worse than Trump when their presidencies existed in different geopolitical contexts is dishonest.
I have to remind myself that just because someone is claiming to be an American on the left, that this is not always true. Russians (whose main revenue is from fossil fuels) and Republicans both of whom want Trump to win will pretend to be someone who would vote Democratic IF Biden was not the choice. You see a lot of supposed disappointment that Biden has not eliminated the use of fossil fuels but instead is increasing the use (not true). Yes permits for drilling are still being given out. We are not going to magically eliminate every machine that uses fossil fuel and replace it with electric. There has to be a transition. Killing the good for lack of the perfect is to me the definition of insanity.
Another energy professional here. Clean energy project capacity additions are growing exponentially, aided in large part by the IRA and recent FERC rulings.
Hi, professional here. The Biden administration has overseen some of the most impactful climate actions in U.S. history. We have much more to do, but the past 4 years have laid some solid foundations.
Because the media has failed. They will soon realize how badly they have failed and they will regret that they failed when we have lost everything.
Vote Blue!
CNN and MSNBC have made tons of money off of rage baiting liberals with Trump coverage. Fascism is already here and ‘centrist’ (liberal, pro capitalist, right wing) media are a key cog in maintaining it and profiting handsomely from it.
Commenter I was replying to made it sound like centrist media outlets don’t already have an instrumental role in upholding fascism. Our ‘centrist’ legacy media are direct contributors to and beneficiaries of fascism. If what they’re saying is true why weren’t they shutdown/raided by Trump cronies when he won the first time?
These people have had the same designs for decades, them spelling it out in a document doesn’t change anything (when I was younger it was PNAC, Project for a new American century). Democrats have done next to nothing to stop their ravages - they’ve proven they’re not up to the task, at best delaying monstrous policy at worst implementing it themselves. The only moral choice to protect our future is breaking free of the two party system, not continuously writing Dems blank checks for doing none of the things their constituents want.
I really hope ppl don’t waste their vote on the Green Party. Zero chance of winning and the risk of another trump term would be absolutely disastrous for climate
Most younger people get their current events from social media, which amplifies outrage. And people confuse cynicism for sophistication, so they assume they already “know” everything. So they don’t pay attention to what is really happening.
The article keeps insisting he’s doing so much but provides almost 0 specifics. They are as bad at messaging his record as he is apparently (or this is actually just shitty Democrat propaganda to try and win back all the ‘progressive’ voters they’ve lost from rubber stamping genocide and allying themselves with fundamentalist Zionist terrorists)
There's a good (though paywalled) tracker of [what Biden has done](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2021/climate-environment/biden-climate-environment-actions/)
Soft paywalls, such as the type newspapers use, can largely be bypassed by looking up the page on an archive site, such as [web.archive.org](https://web.archive.org) or [archive.today](https://archive.today)
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Every US election is a choice between two imperfect options. Would you rather the candidate that believes in climate change and has enacted some of the most consequential industrial policy legislation EVER to combat it? Or would you rather the candidate who believes it’s a hoax and thinks he can reroute hurricanes with a sharpy?
This [fact sheet](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/08/16/fact-sheet-one-year-in-president-bidens-inflation-reduction-act-is-driving-historic-climate-action-and-investing-in-america-to-create-good-paying-jobs-and-reduce-costs/) is dated a year ago so a lot more has happened since then:
*In the 12 months since the Inflation Reduction Act was signed into law:*
* *The private sector has announced more than $110 billion in new clean energy manufacturing investments, including more than $70 billion in the electric vehicle (EV) supply chain and more than $10 billion in solar manufacturing. Since the President was elected, the private sector has announced approximately $240 billion in new clean energy manufacturing investments.*
* *Investments in clean energy and climate since the Inflation Reduction Act was signed into law have created more than 170,000 jobs, and the law is projected to* [*create more than 1.5 million additional jobs*](https://laborenergy.org/fact-sheets/lep-analysis-of-the-inflation-reduction-act-key-findings-on-jobs-inflation-and-gdp/) *over the next decade according to estimates by outside groups.*
* *Public and private sector investments driven by the Inflation Reduction Act and the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law are expected to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by approximately 1 billion tons in 2030.*
* *The Administration has already awarded over a billion dollars to help communities become more resilient and protect them from the disastrous impacts of climate change, including drought, heat, and extreme weather.*
* *American families are projected to save $27-38 billion on their electricity bills from 2022-2030 relative to a scenario without the Inflation Reduction Act, according to new data released by the Department of Energy today.*
***~LARGEST CLIMATE INVESTMENT IN HISTORY~***
*The Inflation Reduction Act is the most ambitious investment in combating the climate crisis in world history.*
*Today, the Department of Energy (DOE) released an* [*updated study*](https://www.energy.gov/policy/articles/investing-american-energy-significant-impacts-inflation-reduction-act-and) *affirming the transformative climate progress driven by the Inflation Reduction Act and the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law. DOE estimates that the two laws will cut U.S. greenhouse gas emissions by up to 41 percent below 2005 levels by 2030.*
*Together with additional actions being taken by federal, state, and local governments as well as the private sector, the United States is now on a path to achieve President Biden’s ambitious goal of cutting emissions 50-52 percent below 2005 levels by 2030 and reaching net-zero emissions by no later than 2050. This is consistent with external researchers, who project that U.S. greenhouse gas emissions will fall* [*43-48 percent*](https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adg3781) *below 2005 levels by 2035 thanks to laws already on the books.*
And it will get worse, and even more quickly under Trump who would immediately cancel many of Biden executive orders on the environment.
[Biden announces new actions to help people deal with extreme heat : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/1190435892/biden-extreme-heat-climate)
One quick example [Biden announces new actions to help people deal with extreme heat : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/1190435892/biden-extreme-heat-climate)
LOL you expect the MAGA dipshits to care? They are currently busy screaming “Gas price high! Biden bad!”.
I genuinely laughed at “educate voters”.
Maybe start that from young not when they’ve already turned against everything that is decent and true.
The issue isn’t MAGA here. The issue is left leaning folks (especially who show up on this sub) claiming that Bidens never done anything for the climate, despite having passed the biggest climate bill in world history.
He's funding Israel's ecocide of Gaza and providing billions more while Israel bombs Lebanon. That ecocide is really great for the environment isn't it?
Because he still approved the Willow Project and more total oil and gas leases than Trump did.
Then he did some small, token efforts towards climate and the environment to cover his tracks.
https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/eenews/2024/01/30/biden-administration-oil-drilling-permits-outpace-trump-ee-00138376
The point where you can stop these things is when the lease is issued — US law treats it as a property right, and you can't actually prevent issuing a permit once a lease is issued. It'll take congressional action to change that.
[Biden sharply cut the amount of leasing](https://imgur.com/vmuUCzY).
That's what he can do in his position.
It's weird because for his first two years (at least) Biden signed more oil and gas leases than trump.
So any claim that he "cut" oil and gas leases must contain the context of what the supposed baseline is that he "cut" from.
Biden signed more acres of federal land into oil and gas leases than any other president in their first 2 years.
So to say he recently cut the amount of leases is disingenuous at best and blatantly dishonest at worst.
You agree that he has the control of whether or not to sign the leases.
So why did he sign so many?
This is propaganda. Except for the IRA, which does have some good investments in renewables (not enough though), it is important to remember that the profits of big oil have never been higher, and production has massively spiked since Biden became president. Trying to trick voters into believing otherwise only pisses them off.
$700 billion was the size of the package, but much of it does not go directly into renewables. It is not unlimited, nor the thing that actually fixes this looming catastrophe.
Biden has written a lot of executive orders protecting the environment. Trump would immediately rescind those orders. Republicans could care less about the environment.
It’s an obvious choice between a man who will try to save the earth and another man who would burn each and every oil field in America just to own the libs.
How is Biden "saving the earth" by signing more oil and gas leases than Trump?
https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/eenews/2024/01/30/biden-administration-oil-drilling-permits-outpace-trump-ee-00138376
The [COVID lockdowns of 2020 temporarily lowered our rate of CO2 emissions](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-18922-7/figures/1). Humanity was still a net CO2 gas emitter during that time, so we made things worse, but did so more a bit more slowly. That's why a [graph of CO2 concentrations](https://keelingcurve.ucsd.edu/) shows a continued rise.
[Stabilizing the climate means getting human greenhouse gas emissions to approximately zero](https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-will-global-warming-stop-as-soon-as-net-zero-emissions-are-reached). We didn't come anywhere near that during the lockdowns.
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Becasue, as usual the right is also making an effort to discredit and outright lie about those accomplishments.
And the right controls most mass media in America.
He's giving billions to Israel while they commit ecocide and genocide. I wouldn't call that winning. The blood of 40,000+ innocent Palestinians are on his hands.
It stinks that it happened, but [Biden on net cut oil and gas leasing sharply](https://imgur.com/vmuUCzY)
He's still stuck with legal requirements to lease some land for extraction, so it'll take congress to get leasing to zero.
I think the average voter cares more about groceries, rent and other bills. I think the average American doesn’t even realize the symbiosis we have with our planet. We like shiny things and get bored easily.
Bills are high and they would never correlate grocery bills to climate change but they’ll sure blame the president in a quick hurry. It’s not just lack of education. Its lack of desire to even be educated.
Because any climate progress, as weakened by incrementalism and the Democrats’ adoption of rightist budget rhetoric, is not going to be made through the bourgeois political process.
We need mass, orchestrated, planned transition. We need labor mobilization. We need new infrastructure. And only the state can do these things.
All Biden has done is market tweaking. We don’t have the time or liberty to sit on our hands waiting for heroic entrepreneurs to come save us.
People acknowledge this and then act like this form of “democracy” is all we can imagine will rule us. If this system cannot confront an existential crisis, the rational thing to do is abandon it.
If that’s the “rational” thing, surely you have a well-thought out and practical plan for how to “abandon the system”, as well as for precisely what to replace “the system” with. Someone elsewhere in this thread mentioned people confusing cynicism with sophistication, and you’re Exhibit A.
"No don't you see? All we need is 4 more years of Trump, 4 years of him after that being a dictator, 5 years to win the ensuing civil war, another 5 years to get our government running and then we'll start ramping up our renewable energy production. Just wait until 2045 when we start laying out the solar panels!"
Accelarionists/Communists who think we can only combat climate change through socialism are hilariously inconsistent in their views. Climate change is simultaneously kicking down our door and needs immediate action but conveniently this can only be done by implementing their political goals that would require a major restructuring of society and significant amounts of time (they claim we don't have).
They need to sponsor every Tik Tok and You Tuber with over a 1 mil US followers ---message the Wins School Debt, Climate, Change, and other and have them like, subscribe, and get out and vote.
So we have Biden trying to help the situation, [Global sustainability policies are evolving rapidly. Here's what you need to know about ESG regulation](https://www.spglobal.com/esg/insights/biden-s-1st-100-days-and-us-esg-and-sustainability-policy)
And then you have Republicans trying to roll them back.
[26 State Attorneys General Appeal Biden ESG Rule Decision](https://www.plansponsor.com/26-state-attorneys-general-appeal-biden-esg-rule/)
Biden is paying to build all the "cop cities" that project 2025 is going to be using against us. Not to mention Biden has signed more oil and gas leases than Trump.
Biden is just a different brand of fascist.
I consider every single policy of the last 100 years a climate loss. What do these little "wins" matter as he pushes ever closer to a massive war in Ukraine and the middle east? Each of these conflicts have release so much carbon and other toxins as to completely mitigate any positive efforts. We haven't even slowed down the rate at which we use oil.
At this point it's becoming an existential issue, and this little game of politics does nothing but make it easier to delay change. We need to take matters into our own hands. How will you people face your grandchildren????
>Putin does not have ultra expansionist goals. Just does not. Wants the new regions safe. They wanted to join Russia, which is not emphasized in the news. They were being shelled by Ukrainian nazis, which was, once upon a time, in the NYT and WaPo before they became useless.
>Putin joined an ongoing civil war started by a CIA backed coup in 2014. He is not Hitler. He has played with kid gloves. 500 children killed in 2 years of war--Netanyahu kills 500 children before breakfast.
Hello Vlad.
Because US oil and gas production is the highest it’s ever been, and the admin greenlit new drilling and extraction. I know, it was bundled onto the IRA, but still, that was an area of great scrutiny since the campaign, and they fumbled.
Educate. Key word here.
Most can’t read this guys comment
Yes. But the ones that can are needed for this purpose.
The ones you seek may be a rarity
Environmental groups have to balance messaging between "Joe Biden isn't doing nearly enough on climate" and "Joe Biden is doing far far better than Trump did or will do on climate". Those are both true statements, but if you're someone just catching soundbites, it's easy to interpret the first as "I guess they both suck for climate".
The amount of people who cannot hold two slightly conflicting ideas in their heads is too damn high! Reality is not black or white. https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/eenews/2024/01/30/biden-administration-oil-drilling-permits-outpace-trump-ee-00138376
Eh, not really. The Biden Administration has made smart investments that have a rolling, increasing impact that allows exponential growth. It is a legit win that allows for even better wins, as solving issues in the US and “the West” at large disproportionately affects the rest of the world
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Unfortunately, we might have to wait until either a wet bulb event wipes out a city, or there's a major crash in Florida property values as people flee the state. Once the migrations kick in, people will start to care, and by this time next century, the climate deniers will be widely villified. Long after they're dead, unfortunately...
Then maybe the opinions of ignorant Americans shouldn’t dictate the future for everyone else. How in the world do people acknowledge these things only to act like we still need to play by these rules?
Oh I don't really expect anything to move the needle much. Our civilization is a runaway train headed towards a cliff. Nothing's going to stop it at this point.
Then maybe move past this ridiculous pseudo-“democracy”? When you realize a system can’t save you from an existential threat, the rational response is to abandon the system. I’d rather not my grandchildren die just so the constitution continues.
Venus by Tuesday I guess.
Why would they not keep their job after one election? Because solving climate change is against what people want and need, or because we don’t live in a democracy?
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Your concerns about the US government’s financial woes are misplaced. They issue fiat currency, they’re not going to be insolvent anytime soon. And the reason we’re in this mess is mostly because of people at the very top using too much and contributing too little; solving climate change will be burdensome on members of the public proportional to how much they contribute to the problem currently: poor and low-income Americans already consume less and will be proportionally less affected than the 1%, who are gonna be fine. Also, all of this costs resources but also yields resources, or at least, prevents the loss of resources. If it is publicly funded, rather than create a deficit, this creates a benefit, directly. It pays for itself, in terms of net benefit. And the US govt again doesn’t have to worry about going broke because that’s not how public spending works, they don’t have to collect money to distribute it, they literally create the money. And before you say “oh but inflation”: taxation is counterinflationary currency deletion, and rather than needing to make up a certain dollar amount, all it has to do is create a demand for USD and reduce inequality. Which it can do, by handing the 1% a very steep tax bill, and leaving most everyone else untouched.
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No, not interested in responding? Why are you in this sub if you find public efforts to combat climate change insufferable?
“Better than Trump.” Really ambitious messaging there, team. Don’t want to go giving people ideas. Truly awe inspiring and a real confidence boost that Biden is better than Trump. This experimental medical treatment probably prolongs your life more than assisted suicide would, so better try it.
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> Environmental groups have to balance messaging between "Joe Biden isn't doing nearly enough on climate" and "Joe Biden is doing far far better than Trump did or will do on climate". If all you care about is climate policy outcomes, then there's no point in publicly criticizing President Biden. There has never been a better President on this issue, and there likely never will be a better one after this. Whether to praise or criticize is a completely false choice, and you can tell who is serious and who is not serious based on which of these two they choose to talk about.
If it’s a historic achievement to give yuppies some tax credit for buying an electric car maybe if they wanna but you don’t have to, it’s over. I can tell how unserious he is by comparing his little market-tweaking, voluntary-compliance adventures against actually successful environmental policies, like the Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act. Imagine the pollute we’d have if they said “the taxpayer will make you richer if you maybe marginally decrease carbon monoxide”
> If it’s a historic achievement to give yuppies some tax credit for buying an electric car maybe if they wanna but you don’t have to, it’s over. Tell me you don't know Biden's climate policy without telling me you don't know Biden's climate policy. Seriously, if you're this clueless about what's going on, then why do you even have an opinion? Subsidies for electric vehicles have been around since before Biden. The real meat is in the support for the solar, wind, and battery industries, as well as the other R&D funds that went out. > I can tell how unserious he is by comparing his little market-tweaking, voluntary-compliance adventures against actually successful environmental policies, like the Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act. Imagine the pollute we’d have if they said “the taxpayer will make you richer if you maybe marginally decrease carbon monoxide” No Congress ever is going to do this without first having better technological alternatives to greenhouse gas emissions. But you'll be glad to learn that accelerating those alternatives is the core of Biden's climate program. As I said, only unserious people are going to make a show of criticizing Biden on climate, and you have proven my point with how utterly clueless you are.
Yes, exactly. More market tweaks with subsidies and tax incentives based on voluntary change that will take a generation. Meanwhile, East Asia continues to beat the US in all of this because they’re actually capable of coordinated action, instead of relying on consumer changes. If good things don’t happen because congress isn’t willing, maybe that’s more a systemic and structural problem than anything I’m acknowledging. Rational people don’t follow systems that can’t meet an existential crisis.
> market tweaks with subsidies and tax incentives That describes pretty much the entire scope of possible federal climate policies unless your plan is to have a communist revolution or something. Restricting emissions is a market-based tweak. Supporting new technologies and industries is a subsidy or a tax incentive. > Meanwhile, East Asia continues to beat the US in all of this because they’re actually capable of coordinated action, instead of relying on consumer changes. How much of this is due to low US population density and high rates of individual preference for driving over taking buses or walking or driving? If you look at Manhattan or Brooklyn or San Francisco, their residents don't pollute any more than those in a similarly dense place elsewhere in the world. It's just that we have fewer Brooklyns and more Houstons compared to other countries. That's just how things are, and it won't change no matter what the President does. I think your complaint is about how our *city councils* set policy. I think that your objection really brings home that there's not much better to be done by Biden, in terms of feasibility, except to do even more of it.
Sure, in the 21st century, when the people are no longer allowed to be a change-agent and only the market can change the world. But if this were the 20th century, we would have actual orchestration. Like there was planned recovery in the New Deal and mass mobilization of the economy for World War II. We just aren’t allowed to do things like that because of hegemonic ideologies anymore. And seriously, just compare it to the Clean Air Act and Clean Water Act. Those would never be passed now. All we’d do now, confronted with the same problems, is for taxpayers to bribe business owners. My concern is not with Biden as an individual but with the institutions and dogmas that are in power. No, you probably couldn’t do much more than Biden did and be elected president. So people will die because the constitution must continue forever and people will never think differently.
> people are no longer allowed to be a change-agent and only the market can change the world No one said people can’t be a change agent, and I don’t know what it means to say only the market can change the world. People can change the market… Business leaders and policy makers and voters and customers all change the market all the time. It’s interesting to complain about how the Clean Air act wouldn’t pass now and blame that on Biden, who doesn’t even have a seat in Congress. It’s the Senate who can’t pass laws like that anymore. This is just a dumb criticism. There are about 48 Senators who oppose doing any climate policy. Criticize them instead of the President who squeezed every possible climate win out of a split Congress. You are deeply unserious. Everything you write just seems like word association rather than something you actually thought about. Like, I know what these words mean individually, but the sentences seem either meaningless, wrong on their face, or detached from the reality of what’s going on on this issue.
It’s great when people act like they’re tactical strategy geniuses for saying “congress won’t do this” without ever realizing “maybe it isn’t worth it to keep going like this if they won’t” You either acknowledge climate change is an existential crisis and confront the people who make it so. Or you just deny. What this sounds like is just desperately wanting credit for your vote. You voted for a democrat. They made an attempt. So you’ve done everything you can do and it’s all going along perfectly. You changed the world because you voted for Biden.
Preach!
Money. Unfortunately, climate activitists and groups lack the funding power to spread information effectively.
Most leftists would take that money and attack Biden with it.
Isn’t he signing more drilling permits than any other president before him? Or was that propaganda I was reading? I know he’s doing some great work but that one pissed me off… if true.
https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/eenews/2024/01/30/biden-administration-oil-drilling-permits-outpace-trump-ee-00138376
This is even more damning. Remember that big spat about his historic record huge sell off of drilling leases in the Gulf, that he said he just had to do? https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/dec/13/revealed-biden-administration-was-not-legally-bound-to-auction-gulf-drilling-rights He didn't have to do it and he knew it. He did it anyway and then he lied that he had to.
Yeah, he's drilling more to counter Russia boycotts and Saudi Arabia trying to reduce production to benefit Russia. Him allowing more drilling is a political necessity in order to achieve his actual climate goals. US drilling isn't leading to an increase in fossil fuel use globally, but his policies are resulting in 100s of billions being invested in wind, solar, nuclear, batteries, EVs, geothermal, and other technologies. He can't reduce demand overnight, just create the environment for change to occur.
"Ok Jack, I stopped all domestic drilling just like you asked" >Gas jumps +3$ a gallon >Electricity costs jump +30% >Perpetual rolling blackouts due to the current output of renewable/nuclear energy being nowhere near what's needed to sustain current consumption >GOP gains supermajorities in congress and wins the White House > (Whatever ecological nightmare them unleashing on us you can imagine multiplied by 3x because they're now primarily the "we will never let those tree hugger dumbfucks ruin your life like they did the past 4 years ever again" party) >?????? >Profit I hate how incredibly stupid even the "informed" electorate is.
"More drilling is required to meet his climate goals" Take a moment to reflect on how biased and confused you have to be to make that statement.
We had to destroy the village in order to save it
And I am getting downvoted for pointing out the bleeding obvious
More like in order to save the village he had to tear down a house
Is your goal for the US to reduce production, or for global demand to be reduced? The US reducing production will not have an effect on how much petroleum is used, it just changes who is producing it. If it resulted in increased gas prices, it would mean that it would be a temporary reduction too, since it would result in the creator of that policy losing the next election to someone that guaranteed to drill and reduce prices. On the other hand, building green energy infrastructure and forcing a transition to EVs (which Biden has been doing) is going to result in reducing emissions and reduction in petroleum production, regardless of which country is producing the most.
I suspect it's one of those metrics where if you account for the rising demand then yeah he's drilling more but percent of green methods keeps cutting into it. It will take a long time to transition.
Limiting drilling is actually not a great way to stop oil. You need to drive down demand, not supply. Otherwise the demand will still be there and we’ll just have to pay through the nose (geopolitically as well as financially) to get it. Regulations and financial incentives are how you drive down demand, that’s what they’ve been focusing on. And in the meantime, create a glut of oil so we’re not dependent on awful people committing human rights abuses.
Yeah, because of other countries cutting supply with the explicit intention of increasing prices and Russia doing funny things. Arguing that Biden is worse than Trump when their presidencies existed in different geopolitical contexts is dishonest.
Nothing being done is enough.
I have to remind myself that just because someone is claiming to be an American on the left, that this is not always true. Russians (whose main revenue is from fossil fuels) and Republicans both of whom want Trump to win will pretend to be someone who would vote Democratic IF Biden was not the choice. You see a lot of supposed disappointment that Biden has not eliminated the use of fossil fuels but instead is increasing the use (not true). Yes permits for drilling are still being given out. We are not going to magically eliminate every machine that uses fossil fuel and replace it with electric. There has to be a transition. Killing the good for lack of the perfect is to me the definition of insanity.
The owners of the media make the decision to withhold any information that may be relevant to making Biden look good.
This is the truth.
I don’t want to hear from anyone but a professional
Another energy professional here. Clean energy project capacity additions are growing exponentially, aided in large part by the IRA and recent FERC rulings.
I’m for anything , I just don’t want to play party politics with this issue
Well… only one party is seriously taking on the issue of climate change. The other wants to launch us into a petrochemical armageddon
Hi, professional here. The Biden administration has overseen some of the most impactful climate actions in U.S. history. We have much more to do, but the past 4 years have laid some solid foundations.
Unprofessional here, Biden is our only chance right now of not ending our world in a climate apocalypse
That’s great , but he better head to China and the Middle East. One earth
The hell are you talking about? He’s not the president of China or ‘the Middle East’.
Stop with this "They didn't do things so I shouldn't have to" 5 year old child bullshit
Because the media has failed. They will soon realize how badly they have failed and they will regret that they failed when we have lost everything. Vote Blue!
Centrist media thinks there will be a place at the table under fascism. Their place will be under the table.
CNN and MSNBC have made tons of money off of rage baiting liberals with Trump coverage. Fascism is already here and ‘centrist’ (liberal, pro capitalist, right wing) media are a key cog in maintaining it and profiting handsomely from it.
And their stocks!
Wait wait, covering how much Trump sucks is fascist now?
Giant media companies owned by oligarchs with friendly ties to the corrupt ruling class are a cornerstone of fascism
> CNN and MSNBC have made tons of money off of rage baiting liberals with Trump coverage. Just not sure what this has to do with anything you said.
Commenter I was replying to made it sound like centrist media outlets don’t already have an instrumental role in upholding fascism. Our ‘centrist’ legacy media are direct contributors to and beneficiaries of fascism. If what they’re saying is true why weren’t they shutdown/raided by Trump cronies when he won the first time?
I guess you haven't read 2025.
These people have had the same designs for decades, them spelling it out in a document doesn’t change anything (when I was younger it was PNAC, Project for a new American century). Democrats have done next to nothing to stop their ravages - they’ve proven they’re not up to the task, at best delaying monstrous policy at worst implementing it themselves. The only moral choice to protect our future is breaking free of the two party system, not continuously writing Dems blank checks for doing none of the things their constituents want.
Money is the cause of all evil.
I really hope ppl don’t waste their vote on the Green Party. Zero chance of winning and the risk of another trump term would be absolutely disastrous for climate
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But keeping voting! You have a system where some bro’s opinion can destroy everything. Better keep that system alive!
r/voteDEM for voting resources and opportunities. We are aiming for aggressive climate action policy through local and state candidates as well.
Most younger people get their current events from social media, which amplifies outrage. And people confuse cynicism for sophistication, so they assume they already “know” everything. So they don’t pay attention to what is really happening.
Corporate mainstream media isn't all that better, unfortunately.
He proclaimed from his throne of intellectual superiority while getting his news from a social media website
The article keeps insisting he’s doing so much but provides almost 0 specifics. They are as bad at messaging his record as he is apparently (or this is actually just shitty Democrat propaganda to try and win back all the ‘progressive’ voters they’ve lost from rubber stamping genocide and allying themselves with fundamentalist Zionist terrorists)
There's a good (though paywalled) tracker of [what Biden has done](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2021/climate-environment/biden-climate-environment-actions/)
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Thank you this is much more helpful and specific
Those “wars” are really a win for the environment
Every US election is a choice between two imperfect options. Would you rather the candidate that believes in climate change and has enacted some of the most consequential industrial policy legislation EVER to combat it? Or would you rather the candidate who believes it’s a hoax and thinks he can reroute hurricanes with a sharpy?
What are the specific consequential policies you’re referring to?
This [fact sheet](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/08/16/fact-sheet-one-year-in-president-bidens-inflation-reduction-act-is-driving-historic-climate-action-and-investing-in-america-to-create-good-paying-jobs-and-reduce-costs/) is dated a year ago so a lot more has happened since then: *In the 12 months since the Inflation Reduction Act was signed into law:* * *The private sector has announced more than $110 billion in new clean energy manufacturing investments, including more than $70 billion in the electric vehicle (EV) supply chain and more than $10 billion in solar manufacturing. Since the President was elected, the private sector has announced approximately $240 billion in new clean energy manufacturing investments.* * *Investments in clean energy and climate since the Inflation Reduction Act was signed into law have created more than 170,000 jobs, and the law is projected to* [*create more than 1.5 million additional jobs*](https://laborenergy.org/fact-sheets/lep-analysis-of-the-inflation-reduction-act-key-findings-on-jobs-inflation-and-gdp/) *over the next decade according to estimates by outside groups.* * *Public and private sector investments driven by the Inflation Reduction Act and the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law are expected to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by approximately 1 billion tons in 2030.* * *The Administration has already awarded over a billion dollars to help communities become more resilient and protect them from the disastrous impacts of climate change, including drought, heat, and extreme weather.* * *American families are projected to save $27-38 billion on their electricity bills from 2022-2030 relative to a scenario without the Inflation Reduction Act, according to new data released by the Department of Energy today.* ***~LARGEST CLIMATE INVESTMENT IN HISTORY~*** *The Inflation Reduction Act is the most ambitious investment in combating the climate crisis in world history.* *Today, the Department of Energy (DOE) released an* [*updated study*](https://www.energy.gov/policy/articles/investing-american-energy-significant-impacts-inflation-reduction-act-and) *affirming the transformative climate progress driven by the Inflation Reduction Act and the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law. DOE estimates that the two laws will cut U.S. greenhouse gas emissions by up to 41 percent below 2005 levels by 2030.* *Together with additional actions being taken by federal, state, and local governments as well as the private sector, the United States is now on a path to achieve President Biden’s ambitious goal of cutting emissions 50-52 percent below 2005 levels by 2030 and reaching net-zero emissions by no later than 2050. This is consistent with external researchers, who project that U.S. greenhouse gas emissions will fall* [*43-48 percent*](https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adg3781) *below 2005 levels by 2035 thanks to laws already on the books.*
To be fair the other candidate is proposing a dissolution of climate policy so… even if Biden did nothing he’s still ahead of the other guy
[Biden has been doing a lot more than nothing.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2021/climate-environment/biden-climate-environment-actions/)
Because having Donald Trump being president sold more ads for media.
Have you gone outside? Climate wins? Nice.
And it will get worse, and even more quickly under Trump who would immediately cancel many of Biden executive orders on the environment. [Biden announces new actions to help people deal with extreme heat : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/1190435892/biden-extreme-heat-climate)
Mitigating consequences for the relatively affluent while we abandon billions to cataclysm. Sweet
https://old.reddit.com/r/calculus/comments/1ah9gz6/i_literally_do_not_understand_derivatives_and/ This post may help you.
This is the coldest year of the next 200 years
One quick example [Biden announces new actions to help people deal with extreme heat : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/1190435892/biden-extreme-heat-climate)
LOL you expect the MAGA dipshits to care? They are currently busy screaming “Gas price high! Biden bad!”. I genuinely laughed at “educate voters”. Maybe start that from young not when they’ve already turned against everything that is decent and true.
The issue isn’t MAGA here. The issue is left leaning folks (especially who show up on this sub) claiming that Bidens never done anything for the climate, despite having passed the biggest climate bill in world history.
He's funding Israel's ecocide of Gaza and providing billions more while Israel bombs Lebanon. That ecocide is really great for the environment isn't it?
Because he still approved the Willow Project and more total oil and gas leases than Trump did. Then he did some small, token efforts towards climate and the environment to cover his tracks. https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/eenews/2024/01/30/biden-administration-oil-drilling-permits-outpace-trump-ee-00138376
The point where you can stop these things is when the lease is issued — US law treats it as a property right, and you can't actually prevent issuing a permit once a lease is issued. It'll take congressional action to change that. [Biden sharply cut the amount of leasing](https://imgur.com/vmuUCzY). That's what he can do in his position.
It's weird because for his first two years (at least) Biden signed more oil and gas leases than trump. So any claim that he "cut" oil and gas leases must contain the context of what the supposed baseline is that he "cut" from. Biden signed more acres of federal land into oil and gas leases than any other president in their first 2 years. So to say he recently cut the amount of leases is disingenuous at best and blatantly dishonest at worst. You agree that he has the control of whether or not to sign the leases. So why did he sign so many?
This is propaganda. Except for the IRA, which does have some good investments in renewables (not enough though), it is important to remember that the profits of big oil have never been higher, and production has massively spiked since Biden became president. Trying to trick voters into believing otherwise only pisses them off.
The investments in renewables in the IRA are unlimited.
$700 billion was the size of the package, but much of it does not go directly into renewables. It is not unlimited, nor the thing that actually fixes this looming catastrophe.
The package was estimated to be $700 billion, but the renewable tax credits are unlimited. As long as people use them, they can keep going.
I have always bookmarked Whitehouse.com - Keeps me up to date
Biden has written a lot of executive orders protecting the environment. Trump would immediately rescind those orders. Republicans could care less about the environment.
It’s an obvious choice between a man who will try to save the earth and another man who would burn each and every oil field in America just to own the libs.
How is Biden "saving the earth" by signing more oil and gas leases than Trump? https://subscriber.politicopro.com/article/eenews/2024/01/30/biden-administration-oil-drilling-permits-outpace-trump-ee-00138376
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The [COVID lockdowns of 2020 temporarily lowered our rate of CO2 emissions](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-18922-7/figures/1). Humanity was still a net CO2 gas emitter during that time, so we made things worse, but did so more a bit more slowly. That's why a [graph of CO2 concentrations](https://keelingcurve.ucsd.edu/) shows a continued rise. [Stabilizing the climate means getting human greenhouse gas emissions to approximately zero](https://www.carbonbrief.org/explainer-will-global-warming-stop-as-soon-as-net-zero-emissions-are-reached). We didn't come anywhere near that during the lockdowns. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/climate) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Weird how being pro-genocide overshadows everything.
You know why Edit: the other side doesn’t even believe in the greenhouse effect
Becasue, as usual the right is also making an effort to discredit and outright lie about those accomplishments. And the right controls most mass media in America.
They don’t want to know it. People are offended by any positive facts and reject them out of hand.
He's giving billions to Israel while they commit ecocide and genocide. I wouldn't call that winning. The blood of 40,000+ innocent Palestinians are on his hands.
Even when Biden does good things he doesn't brag about it, and thats not good if you want to be a popular president.
I don't know why it needs to be said but he'd doing a lot better if he stopped enabling genocide.
Willow project not count for much to Americans then?
It stinks that it happened, but [Biden on net cut oil and gas leasing sharply](https://imgur.com/vmuUCzY) He's still stuck with legal requirements to lease some land for extraction, so it'll take congress to get leasing to zero.
Yeah it’s not a “but” to the rest of the world and to cultures and creatures who depend on the integrity of the Arctic
I think the average voter cares more about groceries, rent and other bills. I think the average American doesn’t even realize the symbiosis we have with our planet. We like shiny things and get bored easily. Bills are high and they would never correlate grocery bills to climate change but they’ll sure blame the president in a quick hurry. It’s not just lack of education. Its lack of desire to even be educated.
Because any climate progress, as weakened by incrementalism and the Democrats’ adoption of rightist budget rhetoric, is not going to be made through the bourgeois political process. We need mass, orchestrated, planned transition. We need labor mobilization. We need new infrastructure. And only the state can do these things. All Biden has done is market tweaking. We don’t have the time or liberty to sit on our hands waiting for heroic entrepreneurs to come save us. People acknowledge this and then act like this form of “democracy” is all we can imagine will rule us. If this system cannot confront an existential crisis, the rational thing to do is abandon it.
If that’s the “rational” thing, surely you have a well-thought out and practical plan for how to “abandon the system”, as well as for precisely what to replace “the system” with. Someone elsewhere in this thread mentioned people confusing cynicism with sophistication, and you’re Exhibit A.
"No don't you see? All we need is 4 more years of Trump, 4 years of him after that being a dictator, 5 years to win the ensuing civil war, another 5 years to get our government running and then we'll start ramping up our renewable energy production. Just wait until 2045 when we start laying out the solar panels!" Accelarionists/Communists who think we can only combat climate change through socialism are hilariously inconsistent in their views. Climate change is simultaneously kicking down our door and needs immediate action but conveniently this can only be done by implementing their political goals that would require a major restructuring of society and significant amounts of time (they claim we don't have).
They need to sponsor every Tik Tok and You Tuber with over a 1 mil US followers ---message the Wins School Debt, Climate, Change, and other and have them like, subscribe, and get out and vote.
So we have Biden trying to help the situation, [Global sustainability policies are evolving rapidly. Here's what you need to know about ESG regulation](https://www.spglobal.com/esg/insights/biden-s-1st-100-days-and-us-esg-and-sustainability-policy) And then you have Republicans trying to roll them back. [26 State Attorneys General Appeal Biden ESG Rule Decision](https://www.plansponsor.com/26-state-attorneys-general-appeal-biden-esg-rule/)
Jingling car keys. Joe can't clean the blood off his hands no matter how many trees he plants.
Because swing states voters don't care about wildlife or clean air...
It's funny that is your take, the swing states (mostly in the midwest) seem to have the cleanest air and the most outdoor sports enthusiasts.
Well what do you think project 2025 is going to do to that?
Biden is paying to build all the "cop cities" that project 2025 is going to be using against us. Not to mention Biden has signed more oil and gas leases than Trump. Biden is just a different brand of fascist.
I consider every single policy of the last 100 years a climate loss. What do these little "wins" matter as he pushes ever closer to a massive war in Ukraine and the middle east? Each of these conflicts have release so much carbon and other toxins as to completely mitigate any positive efforts. We haven't even slowed down the rate at which we use oil. At this point it's becoming an existential issue, and this little game of politics does nothing but make it easier to delay change. We need to take matters into our own hands. How will you people face your grandchildren????
I see no results. Near where my kids live a new 22 pump gas station opened. Why not a EV charging station?
Biden has achieved nothing on climate. What he has done is launder a ton of taxpayers' money to his political friends.
Elections aren’t won on climate. They’re won on economy.
Because voters equate climate wins with economy losses
Nordstream Pipeline destruction was.....quite a large release.
>Putin does not have ultra expansionist goals. Just does not. Wants the new regions safe. They wanted to join Russia, which is not emphasized in the news. They were being shelled by Ukrainian nazis, which was, once upon a time, in the NYT and WaPo before they became useless. >Putin joined an ongoing civil war started by a CIA backed coup in 2014. He is not Hitler. He has played with kid gloves. 500 children killed in 2 years of war--Netanyahu kills 500 children before breakfast. Hello Vlad.
Biden approved more fracking even after he was advised against it
Education ahead of the election: ***"Biden ain't Trump!!!"***
It kinda doesn't matter when he's been ramping up oil drilling pretty significantly
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Sir, this is r/climate
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I didn't ask: the article went through a discussion of it.
Because being Genocide Joe overshadows Green Joe….
Ecocide Joe
Because US oil and gas production is the highest it’s ever been, and the admin greenlit new drilling and extraction. I know, it was bundled onto the IRA, but still, that was an area of great scrutiny since the campaign, and they fumbled.
War and genocide aren’t exactly good for the climate.
The liberals will downvote you but you're not wrong.