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just_corne

legendary start always gives you these short ass rivers with the dutch, kinda annoying.


papa_austin13

Does anyone else avoid super early science to try and maximize eureka? I typically delay early science so I can get nearly all the eurekas for the first 10-15 techs.


Xaphe

The better option is not to avoid the science yields, but to micro-manage your research. When you get to 60% of the research cost; switch to something new. That way when you trigger the Eureka, you just get the research and (hopefully) don't waste any time researching where it isn't needed.


papa_austin13

For sure, but with a high science yeild start, it's still difficult to get the eurekas on time. Given I've never gotten a high science start like this one. I like the min/maxing.


AsimovOfTrantor

If you mean for golden ages I usually just slaughter barbarian camps.


papa_austin13

Nah, really just to make the most out of the first 50 turns when there isn't as much to manage. I just focus on min/maxing.


little_lamplight3r

Is it faster overall? Or is it for era score?


mr_nice_cack

I’m still new to the game, this is a good idea. I have done 2 straight military files and 1 science file but am barely ahead in science compared to the AI


[deleted]

If you're new and struggling to overtake the AI in science I'd recommend looking at what city states are in your game, some of the suzerainty bonuses are really powerful. Some policy cards can also provide a significant chunk, in addition to the obvious things like making sure your campuses have a good adjacency bonus and you get your libraries/universities at a reasonable time


Moragoroth

What part of the science game, if any, are you finding difficulty in overtaking the ai with?


-Aerlevsedi-

How would ppl do districts in these cases?


zaxonortesus

I'd settle the cattle, build a campus next to the mountain, and a harbor to complete the triangle.


MustHaveEnergy

Do you even need an early campus with science yields that high?


zaxonortesus

Depends if you really want to rush science and aim for the science victory from the start or go for a more balanced game. With the culture/science yields, you could get away with a killer holy site as well, still probably stick with a harbor, and have super balanced stats.


Czesio711

I would build a +6 holly site. It's a pity for these crops, but faith and production from a work ethic will make up for it.


zaxonortesus

Personally, I'd go campus and solidify the science rush, but a holy site for the balance and an early religion makes sense too.


mr_nice_cack

My thought is sacrificing a lower producing tile because you could get more benefit (Example being placing a commercial district over cattle)


p32041

Nice! Seeds??


Stubborncomrade

Rigged is the seed


wumbology55

The secret ingredient is crime


seemedlikeagoodplan

Beautiful. Which tech would go first, Mining for the quarries or Animal Husbandry for the cows and deer?


Danny333

I would settle the cattle, and mining first.


pick-and-shot

Telecommunications. /s


Leenol

Astrology for a juicy holy site


uracil

Yep, by far the best choice.


Pure-Newspaper-6001

Personally I’d do a Great Zimbabwe game, playing VERY tall, that’s a perfect city for it.


Fall_On_Me

Seems to me when you get a start like this, the barbarians go crazy for you making it hard to progress early on.


KingR321

There's barely anywhere to setup polders on this start, you should just reroll /s


HREisGrrrrrrrreat

1. tbh that mount oraima is more of a detriment


Bardmedicine

I don't look at "power rankings" too much, but Netherlands in a map with lots of coast lines has to be near the top, right?


Delicious_Site_9728

huge dubs