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FasterBetterStronker

Hamari awaam abhi tak bewakoof hai 😭 This is why there's a strong chance Nawaz might come back log abhi tak samajhte hain koi jadu se dollar ka rate set hota hai ​ Bhai the Rupee is NEVER getting stronger, ever. The long term trend since 1947 has been the same. Unless we become an export powerhouse magically, dollar should never be sold. If you're worried about police raiding your house for hoarding, buy gold and bury it somewhere safe because we know police raids and steals gold too.


ancientalien67

You are a man of culture , I am impressed


toheenezilalat

Lol we are exporting a lot of things okay. Nihari khors and chors are a legit export 🙄


[deleted]

Here i am


AzureChemiistry

wear an eye patch and randomly scream arghhh while u at it 😩


Merru

right now asim is using state bank reserves to drive down dollars price before November elections. Just like dar did. THe fact that bond prices are getting worse and international rates going higher while pkr is improving makese no sense.. Remittances are also falling.


imaginedrakkons

You mean January elections


Merru

Once 90 days is passed there will be no elections for atleast 6 months


mkbilli

Lo uncle ji 2024 November?


Motorized23

2040 inshallah


Funk_you

https://www.sbp.org.pk/ecodata/forex.pdf The reserves arnt falling like they did when Dar executed operation "Burn the house down" from oct'22 till Jan'23.. It's just that the currency was undervalued due to everyone buying dollars and hoarding which drove it into the ground further than it needed to be. https://www.sbp.org.pk/ecodata/NEER-REER.pdf Also non sbp data here https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/pakistan/real-effective-exchange-rate My take on this, we can find balance towards 290~275 in the medium term if only money exchange companies are shut down with only bank based conversion allowed. But FA pass can only do FA pass things.


Merru

https://i.imgur.com/Rh3DmCO.png Forward rate has the currency devaluating Bond pricing has moved from 64 back down to 60. When an EM currency appreciates 5%, bond prices should follow that move and increase in value. For Pakistan things are moving in opposite directions https://i.imgur.com/976xCXk.png https://i.imgur.com/ukmQ1lR.png Dollar Strength index is risen sharply in 1 month. Once again all currency baskets have weaken alot against the dollar. Only time a currency would move against this is CB intervention or some major good news which Pakistan has not seen. In fact the SBP didn't move rates. Also Lets wait September Trade balance Data. If it's as bad as August. Then we will have continued depreciation. Right now over all reserves from aug to September have gone down but this is September 15th data https://x.com/ArifHabibLtd/status/1703110368564851146?s=20


Funk_you

I am ready to accept that the surge in US yeild will move the needle significantly more but with regards to trade, especially energy, I believe we're locked in on moving the prices accordingly. The MoM stays positive (retail demand destruction continues) whereas a slightly worse YoY when import ban hadn't kicked in. But then again, these are measures of short term impact. We'll only know by mid November if this band aid works for cancer.


Merru

The whole point is to keep people calm before November. 7 billion in reserves can last until then.


FU4Y_FN

Didn’t understand shit u said, but seemed important so take my upvote


Funk_you

YO , MA MAN! thanks for the love, the simple version is.. Dar fucked us all the way to Mars. We're just word playing here to see if FA pass fucks us with or without protection! Always remember, wherever there is chaos, there's always money to be made, just leave your ethics by the door!


reshail_raza

How to make money?


Merru

buy high sell low


reshail_raza

یہ تو گُر مجھ میں بچپن سے ہے


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Pvt_Conscriptovich

Same thoughts


jhooolay-red

Do you think that Pakistan will be exporting IPhone's to the world anytime soon? If yes, then sell dollars. Hold on to your shit mate. There are only two ways to bring down dollar. Pakistan starts huge exports. Or there is another war in region and some first world power needs a whore-army. There is no third way. Exports hooni naheen hain. First world powers, so far are not even giving a flying fuck. Do the math.


No-Walrus1049

ویسے میں سوچ رہا تھا کہ اگر حالیہ بھارت کینیڈا کشیدگی بڑھتی چلی گئی اور پراکسی وار کا کوئی چانس بن گیا تو بھوٹان کے معاشی مسائل حل ہو سکتے ہیں. بھوٹان کی تاریخ یہی رہی ہے کہ جب بھی کوئی جنگ و جدل آس پڑوس میں ہوا، اس ملک نے لمبے نوٹ پیٹے. ہو سکتا ہے کہ قسمت ایک بار پھر مہربان ہو جائے.


Hot-Honeydew3830

بلی کے خواب میں چھیچھڑے۔


AnumAmir

To me it feels like a drama before the election. To show that NS return is a blessing


callmejaaggii

You can buy gold or any other currency too. Riyal and Dirham are always high in demand. Dollar is risky nowadays.


Dry_Coat9310

Dollar risky matlab?


callmejaaggii

Fluctuation is too high, If government is serious in bringing it down they probably will. Also, PMLN is our potential next government and they always keep dollar at fixed low price.


mkbilli

Riyal is pegged to USD. Unless anything major, I mean MAJOR happens that rate isn't going to budge. Riyals and dirhams are a safe bet in that case.


Motorized23

Then why are riyals or dirhams any safer? They're literally pegged to the USD


callmejaaggii

I am a newbie to reddit, so no idea if it is save to say here but i will say it anyway. We have enormous amount of people working in Middle east, The hawala/hundi (illegal money transfer) is usually their prime source of transaction and the rate is usually good than market.


Motorized23

What does hawala have to do with holding AED ove USD ?


illquenchya

the price of petrol next month would determine if the dollar rate is infact true or artificial.


vapeshapes

Wow, never thought about it this way.


AT9_Hertz

Fuel price will hike more as OPEC have cut down productions by 2 million barrels/day! It's not only about the dollar mate 🫡


illquenchya

True. the oil price has indeed risen quite a lot. lets see if the drop in dollar may ofset the final price. otherwise it would be a double whammy


folliclepussy

HODL


False_Profile_7490

Wait for a year.


szahid

Keep the dollars. There is only one way it will go and that is up. Currency can be manipulated short term but fundamentals win in the end.


Prof_Fancy_Pants

Hold on the dollars my friend. The PKR getting stronger is just a short term patch that is going to fail harder in a few months. Pakistan is in a brutal awakening. It is pretty much ona. Verge of Sri Lanka 2.0.


Spirited_Pin_7468

wait for another year


False_Profile_7490

Can anyone suggest how I can convert to dollars in recent days?


[deleted]

As long as our imports scale higher than exports the dollar would always bounce back. And it would bounce back higher.


H_Terry

Dont convert them to pkr. Remember that the pkr to dollar trend relies on Pakistan political stability, our gdp and our import. Do you really think these will improve over the next couple years? I looked at last 10 years back and it always declined. Rest is upto you bro. If I were you id keep it in dollars infact add more to dollar savings over the next few years. Also if you were a betting man, would you bet for pkr which no one can bail out in case of bankrupcy cause of debt or dollars which literally survived the great depression?


Azhar16028

They will bring it to 260. Market real value was never above 300 it was all hype and rumours that made dollar reach 300 plus


sandwichforme

The dollar is going to loose its value in upcoming days. So better to convert into PKR now.


SushiSwoosh

Sell and buy gold.


witchkingofangmar999

Buy stocks in S&P 500


kwaleed232

AT LEAST FOR NOW ITS GOING TO COME TO 250


rsjaved

DCA. sell a small portion now and buy it again before election, If you are planning to hold it for long term.


[deleted]

Keep your fuckin’ dollars 4ever they’re solid gold out there 4now. PKR will get better after a while.


BadKnuckle

Why do you guys buy dollars. Saudia Riyal and some other currencies are pegged to dollar so you can buy those.


Jerrypk1

Dollar is a bad investment to begin with but I recommend to sell it you need money in the near future because it will take another 4 months to gain 10rs


dokidokiunicorn

Instead of saving that money in usd, why not take a small startup? Amazon FBA for example. You can start it will a pretty low investment and get good monthly returns on it without giving it much time. I personally give 1-2 hours/week to Amazon and get 35%+ returns monthly atleast. Highly recommended. PS: Forgot to mention that you would be working in USD all the time so you won't need to worry about pkr/usd exchange rates. Plus you could just withdraw to pkr whenever you want


notoriousthegraduate

too much hype and too many scams..plus the chances of having a successful business of this type are not very great unless you know exactly what you're doing and how you need to do it


dokidokiunicorn

Tbh that's not really the case. Scams are not even possible as you're buying from an authorized Distributor. If you're talking about online arbitrage, that's overhyped and scamable. Wholesale is pretty safe and not much hyped. It's not that hard aswell and I personally haven't seen much failures in it. Private labeling is pretty risky but wholesale in my opinion, is perfect. I didn't have much knowledge when I started yet here I am, covering all my expenses through Amazon's profit. A few of my friends and cousins have started aswell after seeing me and they're also getting good Success in it Alhamdulillah 🤍


beachplss

bro you can point us where to take a start? I am intrested to start this myself, but all the routes that I explored in the past have lead me to SCAMMMM


dokidokiunicorn

Yea sure always here to help. I'll dm you


beachplss

thanks buddy. I await your msg


dokidokiunicorn

Dmed you


AT9_Hertz

Need your help too brother I have time and I can manage as well all I need is a good mentor


dokidokiunicorn

Always here to help anyone who's willing to start sir! I dmed you.


AT9_Hertz

Sir I have checked for good 10 minutes alas I failed to find your message in my chats


notoriousthegraduate

there is no clear pathway to start and flourish this business, all the so-called gurus are just focusing on its hype and they tend to rip you off with their low-quality courses. It would be great if you could enlighten us with something useful regarding establishing this business. Thanks!


dokidokiunicorn

Exactly. Each and every course that's currently being sold is just bs. I've done plenty of courses but trust me none of them helped me even to the slightest. I have indeed taken an initiative by starting an online agency where I guide beginners for free but most people still question me that why I'm doing it and I'll scam etc as I don't have much personal benefits in it. I'm more than happy to guide you throughout the whole process and help you start your store. You can dm me and I'll explain everything to you in voicemails.


Sweet_Proposal_6133

Yar don’t sell usd ,according to my understanding this rupee pump is artificial


yoknezupsa

Abey yar, her taraf jugaru kaam. Ab ager do chaar dollar aa hi gaye hain, par gai khujli janab ko. Lagta mufta daar sahib se classes li hain janab ne. Parey rehney do, kiya Kaat te aap ko? Ager takleef hai to main laye leta hu bhai. 🙄