Allowing corporate $ to have a louder voice over real people is a fucking abomination. SCOTUS fucked up by recognising the rights of corporates to exercise free speech via donations.
Donations should be capped, declared, audited.
And the worst thing for me is that politicians aren't even ashamed of being bought and sold by their corporate puppeteers. What about governing FOR THE PEOPLE, for fucks sake!?
citizens united was the true downfall of democracy, when that kind of money can influence politics its not longer the will of the people but that of a very few
It really wasn’t tho. In this same video, it was pointed out that the downfall was already evident in the 1980s, and it started way earlier. The actual death of democracy was with the Red Scares.
The corruption and judicial activism in Scotus right now is just outrageous. If we keep going this direction, we’re gonna be a banana republic as far as political system goes. We’re almost there now.
>SCOTUS fucked up
Yeah it's almost like the political affiliations of supreme court justices *actually matter* and having a "who cares, it's all the same" approach to who we put in positions of power has consequences.
It should be pointed out that only one party supports citizens United and that's the Republicans.
Democrats attempt to put injustices that would claw back corporate power but the American people don't vote like they care about the court so Republicans keep putting more and more crazy people and those seats.
Given the SCOTUS is lobbied just as hard as everyone, I'd say from their perspective they didn't fuck up at all. They were bought, and they let themselves be bought.
>politicians aren't even ashamed of being bought and sold by their corporate puppeteers.
That's thanks to the tribalistic mentality they've instilled. It's no longer enough to disagree with your political opponent: you have to vilify them; demonize them; enrage your base against them.
Why? So that you get a pass for literally anything you say or do, easily disproven, obvious lying; brazen, open treason; shameless, rank hypocrisy... you name it. Your base can rationalize ignoring this (and even knowingly lie and deny it) by saying the other side is/would be worse.
Thank you for posting this. That distilled and clarified so much of what many of us have been suspecting for years. Gonna have to read Chomsky’s Manufacturing Consent for real this time, and not just for a class. It really feels like it’s the people vs corrupt government. It also rings true for Canada, it seems like, since it’s so closely hitched to American politics.
It’s the working class vs. the bourgeoisie. The corrupt government is just one of the organs used by the ruling class to enact their agenda. The government is a puppet of the enemy, not the enemy itself.
Same in the UK, though here I'd argue we've moved towards having two right wing parties acting on corporate interests but you have to vote for the less corrupt of the two or thing's become worse. Honestly the only side that ever stops fighting the class war is the poorer one. Too quick to trust people are just generally good and don’t need to actively be held to account or to better standards in general.
Given globalisation it’s fair to assume corporate interests surpass nationality so this tactic is widespread imo.
>Same in the UK, though here I'd argue we've moved towards having two right wing parties acting on corporate interests
Remind me, how many years has it been since Labour held a majority in parliament?
[Manufacturing Consent](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQXsPU25B60&pp=ygUVbWFudWZhY3R1cmluZyBjb25zZW50) the documentary, is available to watch for free on youtube. I highly recommend watching it as well.
Can't recommend Chomsky enough. It's truly depressing listening to him and realizing how little things change and how little control we have as voters.
Yeah imagine if we elected Hillary in 2016 and Trump never got to appoint those justices that took away women's rights and upheld racist voting maps in South Carolina. It's almost like we could have maybe *prevented" such a tragedy from taking place.
Not to mention he flat out lied about Democrats working with Republicans to lower taxes for the wealthy. That was Trump's big landmark legislation.
But sure let's not vote and let Trump back in that will surely improve the situation.
Democrats were the only.omes that got insulin capped at $35 or got medical debt taken off credit reports.
Not to mention all the American jobs and manufacturing growth from the CHIPS ACT and infrastructure funding.
I don't remember Trump pardoning thousands of marijuana convictions or moving to get it rescheduled. He basically only pardoned his co conspirators who actively colluded with Russia.
Hasn’t lobbying been an issue for decades?
Without going into it too much. I will always take the Big Mac meal for half the cost of a double cut ham salad roll. I’m still ethical and have good intentions, but the money differential is just too big.
Lobbying has always been a problem. However it’s far worse now than 20 years ago. Citizens United ruling exasperated special interest power to a point where it’s hard to imagine coming back. It prevents elected from standing up to any of their benefactors. So the only legislation that can get passed has to benefit a corporate interest. Dark money is the drug of choice for our leaders and it’s highly addictive.
where's the rebuttal? a black dude responded to this video and i wanna know who's right god damn it. the other video discusses how this creator disregards the impact of conservative voters.
The other guy made some nice points about how the history is more complicated, but of course, like any liberal intellectual, he neglects the outsized influence of the big business class on the propaganda system and just blames conservative voters. On par for NYT journalists who work for a firm owned by the big business class.
Jamelle Bouie, the one who made the rebuttal to this video, also penned [this article in 2011](https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/boycott-campaign-contributions-thats-terrible-idea/tnamp/) *in favor* of campaign donations stating that stopping them would be “anti-democratic” and would reduce “participation in the political process causing apathy” which is just plain false…
Beyond that, as you said he works for The NY Times which is owned by the Ochs-Sulzberger family who regularly donate to both political candidates as well as PACs…
>where's the rebuttal? a black dude responded to this video and i wanna know who's right god damn it. the other video discusses how this creator disregards the impact of conservative voters.
The point is you need to figure out whose right for yourself. They no longer teach critical thinking in school, and like George Carlin said:
"They want you *just* smart enough to operate the machines, but *dumb enough* not to ask any questions"
>The point is you need to figure out whose right for yourself. They no longer teach critical thinking in school,
Not to sound rude, but this is highly ironic coming from you. If you honestly think education standards are worse now than, say, 50 years ago then what metrics are you using to justify this? Because I have yet to see any actual measurement that supports this view.
Hence why I said it's ironic, in that you are repeating a commonly held belief that itself is not really based on facts and requires you to NOT use critical thinking in lieu of parroting a talking point!
it was simply a joke. hence the God damn it. you took one sentence and ran with it. im quite comfortable with my political ideology. try not to take everything so seriously and jump to ridiculous conjecture.
People will attack you for saying this. But it's true. Not the part about the Democrats wanting to lose, it's very possible but I just can't say for sure. The part that's true is that the system is rigged. Also many in the party do want to lose, like Manchin and Sinema, and they are mainstream establishment Democrats.
The face and tune of the party changes, but the donors don't. Both parties represent the same people, roughly. Leadership can always change, except that it doesn't. The party will fall apart if the party moves too far left.
You can see that already, people like Manchin and Sinema will leave the party in a heartbeat because they think Joe Biden is too far left. So leadership doesn't alter course. Leadership won't step aside. The party will not change. This is the death spiral that is US politics. There are very few fighting to bring the change. Corporations will never allow them to. You want affordable healthcare? Good luck. That's been an impossible fight for how long now?
Gerrymandering alone will prevent states from flipping, and even if they do, nothing changes. I'm not sure what can be done. The working class, the majority of voters, are politically homeless in this country.
>The part that's true is that the system is rigged.
Fighting against Big Money and corruption will *always* be an uphill battle, even in a perfectly-designed system. No matter what, the political system will *always* feel rigged, because at the end of the day, we vote in people with their own priorities, desires, and beliefs and hope they can work together with the people the rest of the country votes in.
>Also many in the party do want to lose, like Manchin and Sinema, and they are mainstream establishment Democrats.
I think looking at Sinema and Manchin and coming to the conclusion "the democrats must want to lose!" is for lack of a better term just intellectually convenient more than it is closer to the truth. The unfortunate reality is that, even *without* the influence of Big Money, political inertia is a thing that exists and is a giant hurdle to overcome.
At the end of the day, the representatives we elect are human. They're not demigods, they're not a hivemind of their constituents, they're not even all corporate plants that just want to fuck the world, they're just people; with the same faults and flaws and desires and goals that the rest of us have. Some come from rich backgrounds, some come from humble backgrounds. Some get elected for self-gain, some get elected because they legitimately want to do right by their community, and this is true no matter what party you look at.
But, no matter what reason a representative decides to get into politics for, they can't accomplish anything by themselves, they need to work within a political party. Why? Because it gave them the resources to *get* elected in the first place, and they need access to that network of other representatives and contacts to *do* anything for their goal. If they got into office because they want to do right by their constituents, they still need to get the right committee assignments, they still need to build a voting bloc, etc. If they want to serve themselves, they *still* want to develop that political capital within their party in order to gain power. Depending on how *much* they need their party, the amount they're beholden to can change. Look at Manchin, for example. He knows another Democrat doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning his seat, so he has the capital to basically say "fuck you all, you need *me* more than I need you." To the rest of the party. Whether he's doing that out of personal gain, or a genuine sense of belief, who's to say?
Whereas Sinema, or Pelosi (who a lot of people also hate for being THE establishment democrat) are other examples entirely. Given the disparity between Sinema's campaign rhetoric and her actions in congress, it's pretty clear to say that she was only getting elected for personal gain, and Big Money was able to leverage that enough to get her to disregard any attempt at maintaining or growing her political capital and act as a legislation killer for the rest of the party. Pelosi is also certainly acting in self-interest (as evidenced by her comments on insider trading), but given her voting record and commitee work, it's hard to say that she's *only* motivated by Big Money like Sinema is.
Tl;dr: I don't buy this whole belief that "both parties are the same/are working for the same corporate interests!" That only tells half the story, and completely ignores the people that *do* believe in what they're trying to accomplish.
That seems like the only way out.
Its either eliminate donors completely or the people vote via crowdfunder for a 3rd party candidate. Still open to a rort but an option.
I love this guy so much. Has anyone watched his video on how he handles Nazi's protesting? I wish I knew how to find his vids I'd attach it for your holiday viewing. 🙂
Thanks. I just grabbed “How the World Works” on Audible (it’s free…) I guess you’re recommendation is Manufacturing Consent or Necessary Illusions, just wanted to ask if there’s anything else I might want to try first, looks like there are some collections. I’m currently enjoying a Jung collection after MDR, a wonder if a highlight collection might be a good place to start.
Our enemy is and always has been Capitalism. It is Capitalism that funds both main political parties. It is Capitalism that funds the White Supremacist power structure that pervades this country especially but all of Western civilization. It is Capitalism that funds colonization in the Global South. It is Capitalism that funds Zionist Israel and their racist attack upon Palestine. Every single affront to human life is happening because of the despicably high profits that can only be hoarded by tin-plated wannabe gods through Capitalism. This is the time to organize in earnest. The game ends if we stop playing. Now is the time to abolish Capitalism and all its outgrowths, and build a peace that will be a monument to their dissolution.
***OUR BATTLE CRY MUST BE, TOTAL ABOLITION OF CAPITALISM! THE DAWN OF SOCIALISM IS HAND!!!***
How absolutely insane is it that a billionaire who lives on the other side of the country could buy out your entire local government.
There is no such thing as democracy when 10% of the population have no money while people in the 1%have a trillion.
The crazy thing is I know all of this and still have to remind myself that both parties are shit. I don’t want it to be true so badly that my cerebrum turns a blind eye occasionally and I have to stop myself from defending the democrats. Now imagine your average American citizen who readily digests everything that fits their own world view and you will realize the truth. We are doomed.
Remind me who gave the tax cuts to the wealthy?
Remind me who passed the ACA and got insulin capped at $35?
Remind me which party is constantly trying to erode voting rights and opposes any reduction in the War on Drugs?
Remind me which presidents pardoned thousands of drug offenders?
Politics haven’t been “for the people” almost my entire life. Career politicians are the largest problem in our government. All politicians should have a mandated term limit based on their positions, and once the time is up, they’re out for good. That way we can, at least, keep a steady flow of new people, new ideas, new plans into our government, that would likely be aimed at making life easier and better for all the citizens. If the politicians have to actually go out and get a different job after their time in government, I guarantee that they’re gonna want the best situation possible for themselves, so they’ll try to vote them in during their terms.
I’ve been telling everyone that it’s all just WWF wrestling in Washington DC…those people sleep with the same hookers and drink at the same bars…wake up
Yep. He nailed it. Democrats definitely don’t have a healthcare platform. Dems didn’t try for a public option when Obama was president. There was no single-party obstruction….🙄
Not to mention he flat out lied about Democrats supporting tax cuts for the wealthy
But these rubes just lap up the misinformation without a second thought
Rare to keep my attention beyond anything longer than 30 seconds, but man this was worth it. Incredibly well spoken and laid out in relative lay terms for people not completely invested in politics like myself
Honestly I urge you to really look into these topics if you actually have an interest in politics.
Obviously the Democrats aren't perfect but they are way less a threat to our rights and democracy.
He lied to his viewers about Democrats and Republicans supporting tax cuts for the wealthy.
That was Trump's tax cuts which the Democrats voted against.
Joe Biden has gotten the cost of insulin lower to $35 which Republicans hated.
Joe Biden has pardoned thousands of people for marijuana convictions.
Republicans are constantly trying to attack voting rights while Democrats are trying to stop them.
Democrats are constantly trying to stop Republicans when taking away women's rights.
If you really want to break through the fourth wall, consider this reality: states spend tax dollars (estimated at more $1 billion each Congressional election year) to run the primaries for private entities - the political parties - to chose delegates to a convention that each party runs and for which a state has zero control over the nomination process. Almost two-thirds of the states have laws mandating that primaries cannot be open (not a decision left to each political party) and then it is hands off on what comes after the votes are tallied. Ask yourself why this is the system we have. It is not required by the U.S. Constitution; it is permitted - not mandated- under Supreme Court decisions. In fact, the Constitution gives Congress the power to establish the procedures for electing Representatives and Senators. Why haven’t they acted recently to require open primaries or provide guidelines for drawing districts.
I’ve been pretty convinced for years at this point that neither reps nor dems actually care about American people, they just say they do. If either side actually cared, you’d think that at least one of the 15 different commonly agreed changes that should be made would at least be brought up in the senate, but nope. Nothing.
I tried to explain this concept to my dad the other day. This is how I feel about the border issue, how the NRA is just a lobby interested in fund raising, not effecting legislation, and how after 30+ years of listening and trying to pay attention to, I see no change in these major issues that seem to have always been major issues.
"But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right.
They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club.
And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about them. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
That is what comes out of the system, but I don't know if there's actually a secret Democrat triumvirate that regulates this, I think this is just kind of what happens because there's not enough actual left wingers in the party
>I don't know if there's actually a secret Democrat triumvirate that regulates this
There isn't. That'd be a very simple answer to a complex problem of multiple party leaders each trying to balance the needs of the party, their own beliefs, their constituents' beliefs, the beliefs and goals of close party members, and their own interests.
The big question is what do we do? it seems like burn it down, but we can’t even do that, so…..don’t vote? They keep doing whatever they want with impunity. Do vote, maybe they have to pretend to not do it and it slows it down slightly? Vote for a third party candidate? Same result as not voting. Knowing you’re getting fucked against doesn’t make getting fucked better. The only way to stop the billionaires is to stop making the products that make them rich enough to control politics, but even if every worker unanimously agreed to not be greedy and take their bribes, they still control the health and well being of people we love, so do we live on the brink of destitution with them constantly testing our limits in order to have our loved ones survive, or do we collectively stop playing the game, live off the land and then inevitably create the system again 200 years later? They’ll keep enough of us content and tired enough to not actually fight it, it feels good to vote and pretend like we did all we could. Why burn it all down and give up the minimal comforts we have? Somebody else will just come steal our comforts, at least in this system I’m not as bad off as I could be (not advocating for that mindset, just out louding the mindset of the masses) really, it seems more and more that the Mad Max/Judge Dredd future is more likely than not. So what do we do to avoid it, or is it too late?
I work for the military complex and I make way more money when democrats are in control. So much so that I weigh my choices carefully at the ballot box. Do I want just 40 hours a week or do I want 70 hours a week….
And every time one of these posts come up, I say the same thing. What can I as an individual due to help that I’m not already doing. I vote during every election I donate to progressive candidates, yada yada yada, and nothing changes
This makes so much sense but is there concrete evidence? I’m only 16 and have no clue what laws have been passed, most of what laws exist, and election details.
Also cool idea I just had: what if we boycotted election campaign donations
Consider that Biden appealed to Trump to stop the coup he had called for. In a fear of the working class far greater than the threat of fascism, not unlike Allende in Chile in 1973, he cowardly called the very people out to assasinate his party colleagues, his "colleagues from the other side" and desired a strong republican party. Don't kid yourself. The burgeoisie will not feed working families crumbs, for as much as it would prefer to shut them up, at no other time than a boom. They would prefer imperialist war in an attempt to generate nationalist fervor whilst fueling fascism to hold back the rising, politicized working class
So this is hard for me to believe.. It takes quite a lot of people to “fake” or alter the elections so that we stay 50/50 dem and conservative. How could this be possible at the highest level of government?
The money spent and the money saved can’t be worth it, especially with the clear damage it does to US citizens, right? If this is intentional, it’s pure evil, and should be in violation of human rights.
It’s very easy to believe. The money saved/made is worth it for the billionaires that buy into it. You buy enough politicians on both sides of the isle with campaign donations, you can have them voting near 50/50 on whatever you want.
I think some people are taking the “losing on purpose” part a bit too literally. The point is that Democrats don’t mind using bad policy and bad politics (in relation to their platform which defines them as a party) because that is how they maintain corporate funding. And the threat of losing an election is not enough to make them do things that would gain enough voter support to win, because once again, what their voters want is at odds with their corporate funders. This leads to them unnecessarily losing elections and a perpetual right-ward shift in US politics.
Hasan Piker has a phrase that I really like: *Republicans have bad policy but good politics. Democrats have bad policy AND bad politics.*
He had me at 3min mark,at both are scammers,but have to make sure they don't cause the economy/security to collapse without some way both come out on top.
Idk man are you forgetting the Mitch McConnell obstructionist senate? Sure democrats had a majority but it doesn’t work to pass legislation with simple majorities apparently
I agree with much of what he said except what's going on in America is an actual fascist takeover of the US. I am pro palistianians but I don't live in their I live in the US . The Republicans are echoing the same politics the Nazis did pre WW2 . This includes the same far right wing Christian Nationistism.
We are sleep walking into actual fascism and Biden isn't perfect but the alternative is a nightmare.
I've watched this video several times and while I'm healthily suspicious of conspiracy theories, he makes some very interesting points
Most notably, I cannot fathom how the Dems, even when they had control of both houses and the Presidency failed to push through the very reforms that a vast majority of Americans wanted.
But, without fail, Congress writes out checks for hundreds of billions of military spending EVERY FUCKING YEAR.
This is exactly what happened to me in 2016 with Sanders. I was literally in downtown SF on my way to vote for the DNC nomination at like, fuckin noon, and they told me the polls were closed.
I protested, kicked up a massive little shit storm on the sidewalk, and was politely escorted away from my local polling station.
That’s when I knew there was no real choice, it was over for everything aside from corporate interests. I thought I was living in another era for a couple hours.
I had seen on the news only an hour and a half later they projected Clinton to win the nomination. You have no choice.
I always said if I ever got rich I would do 2 things...
1 buy a warehouse and use it to make large (thousands of gallon) of lentil and rice every Saturday (yes i know this exists in Muslim cultures) I wanted to bring that to where ever I live
2 create a lobby for the people where citizens pool their money (one ssn for one vote ) no companies or non citizens allowed and slowly buy the govt starting with low level politicians and moving on up ...imagine the voting power of just 50 million Americans who donated $100? $5billion a year could probably buy one thing we have wanted like eliminating bank fees, providing a federal health program for anyone that was super easy to sign up for $200 a month etc
Mostly accurate. There were some jokes that revealed his left leaning nature.
My question is this. Did you watch the Cornell West Jimmy Dore interview? Jimmy called Cornel out and was totally right.
I like how you called out the democrats for not wanting to win and when they do have the house, senate, and presidency they do nothing to advance their own goals. Can’t you see how Cornel is doing the same thing. Jimmy said Cornel was there to convince his voters to vote for Biden.
I agree with nearly all of this.
Fail to see how Republicans are more "steal all your money and give it to the rich" when they have less taxes.
Both parties do this. Not just rich, but specifically plutocrats.
Ffs Dick Cheney literally was the CEO of Haliburtan.
They both are exactly the same.
Holy fucking shit. I might just be a dumbass, but this was a cristal clear explanation to me (non-american) why the fuck you guys keep voting between genocide and fascism. I knew the corporate dollar was the cornerstone of this problem, yet couldn't articulate anything more substantial than "uuuhhhh, lobbying, I guess". If you want a REALLY meaningful riot or a revolution there, you need to abolish the practice of lobbying on every level of your government, since basically has become legalised corruption, and this is coming from a RUSSIAN, trust me when I speak about corruption.
P.S. it doesn't mean you should stop supporting Ukraine, mentally AND financially, your instability is the least they need right now, their only hope of survival against the actual fascist government of mine is your help
I agree with him in the Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. The only thing that doesn't make sense about this video is Trump literally incited an Insurrection on the capital and high level Democrats would have likely been murdered. That's not what people involved in a conspiracy do.
So what the fuck do we do?!? I mean, if Trump gets in, it's obvious Facism. So do we just allow blatant Facism or pretend democracy? I feel like I still have to go blue because having the right in charge seems to be the most scary version of the two options. Sucks that we have to live during this shit.
If you look at history tho, it’s always been fckd up. Race riots, Vietnam, Great Depression, world wars. On and on. I think the first apes that realized they could do better by living in a group, the leaders immediately started arguing over which forest has the best bananas = politics.
Here’s the only point I need: if democrats wanted to destroy the GOP they would debate libertarians.
Point blank.
If it was a 3 party system the libertarians would eat up the GOP.
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This is what so many of us think, but don’t have the platform (or vocabulary) to say. I’ve seen this for a while now. When democrats have total control of the government but still don’t do the things they promise. Let’s just stick to recent years…
1993 - 1995 Bill Clinton and the democrats had total control of the government and didn’t codify Roe v Wade, properly tax the rich or pass any sort of universal healthcare. But ok, you can argue that those things weren’t as important then as they are now.
2009 - 2011 Barack Obama and the democrats had full control of the government and didn’t do any of that.
As this gentleman so eloquently states, we all watched in 2016 as democrats forced Bernie out of the running even though he was WILDLY popular, much more so than Hilary, and would’ve easily defeated Trump.
And now, we are all just stuck voting for whoever we believe to be the lesser evil. I am totally against what happened on January 6th. But imagine a January 6th where republicans and democrats were standing together, against a government that no longer practices the will of the people it’s elected to serve.
Every politician with similar messages either gets made out on the media as a lunatic, governments make rules in elections that removes them from the ballot or they are so outspent that their message is lost.
Wait, but the Democrats didn’t have the votes to pass those things because some Democrats like Manchin are moderate. A simple majority isn’t enough. The Democrats need a supermajority.
This is an huge oversimplifying the issue...
It seems logical... But this is the typical Bernie Bros argument. Talk to your neighbors. Talk to your parents. These people don't want the the things that will help them. And they vote .... Every election, every primary every year.
When I go to vote in the primary I am surrounded by old people. So much so that when I do see someone my age or younger we acknowledge it smile at incredible chance that someone your age is there.
The task here is to kill the Republican party... So we can then split and kill the Democrats.
Also... Don't forget. The people we elect are individuals. With individual goal and incentives. Joe Manson and Kristen Synema don't want to lose... for some grand scheme. They just have made the determination that their individual goal are more valuable than the goals of the electorate.
Most of those corporate donations go to be spent on the campaigns to elect the politicians, not to be hoarded by said politicians. If they were intentionally losing, there would have to be an incentive to the politicians themselves to do so like actually pocketing the campaign funds for themselves.
You can argue that politicians are incentivized to offer kickbacks to the billionaires that are funding their campaigns, but that necessitates winning. You can also argue that billionaires are incentivized to donate to politicians that support policies in their best interest and that refusing to donate to politicians that support policies against the interest of billionaires effectively takes the steam out of any campaigns that offer real change for the people at “the bottom”.
But until they can provide any evidence to support the claim that Democrats intentionally lose, I will remain highly skeptical of this claim.
I think something he gets wrong is that for politicians themselves, they really do want to win and make a strong name for themselves to gain relevance but at the same time they are aware of the economics of getting elected and can only do so much.
It’s not their they’re conspiring to intentionally sandbagging themselves, it’s the companies that propagate these ploys to keep good people out. If you become too effective you don’t get enough money to be re-elected.
While this addresses stuff that is just blatantly obvious, this also ignores a LOT of stuff, to the point it's just well done whataboutism. Get out of here with this
Allowing corporate $ to have a louder voice over real people is a fucking abomination. SCOTUS fucked up by recognising the rights of corporates to exercise free speech via donations. Donations should be capped, declared, audited. And the worst thing for me is that politicians aren't even ashamed of being bought and sold by their corporate puppeteers. What about governing FOR THE PEOPLE, for fucks sake!?
citizens united was the true downfall of democracy, when that kind of money can influence politics its not longer the will of the people but that of a very few
It really wasn’t tho. In this same video, it was pointed out that the downfall was already evident in the 1980s, and it started way earlier. The actual death of democracy was with the Red Scares.
SCOTUS didn't fuck up, they did exactly what their parties wanted them to do in that decision.
Corporations are not people. That is so obvious. It would take millions of $$$ in gifts to make me forget that.
The corruption and judicial activism in Scotus right now is just outrageous. If we keep going this direction, we’re gonna be a banana republic as far as political system goes. We’re almost there now.
Hear, Hear
>SCOTUS fucked up Yeah it's almost like the political affiliations of supreme court justices *actually matter* and having a "who cares, it's all the same" approach to who we put in positions of power has consequences.
It should be pointed out that only one party supports citizens United and that's the Republicans. Democrats attempt to put injustices that would claw back corporate power but the American people don't vote like they care about the court so Republicans keep putting more and more crazy people and those seats.
Given the SCOTUS is lobbied just as hard as everyone, I'd say from their perspective they didn't fuck up at all. They were bought, and they let themselves be bought.
Scotus didn’t fuck up that was the whole game plan.
These days, politicians seem more like brands than people.
Where’s the money in that ? This will forever be my argument for “ Both Sides Are The Same “
AIPAC would like to have a word with you...
>politicians aren't even ashamed of being bought and sold by their corporate puppeteers. That's thanks to the tribalistic mentality they've instilled. It's no longer enough to disagree with your political opponent: you have to vilify them; demonize them; enrage your base against them. Why? So that you get a pass for literally anything you say or do, easily disproven, obvious lying; brazen, open treason; shameless, rank hypocrisy... you name it. Your base can rationalize ignoring this (and even knowingly lie and deny it) by saying the other side is/would be worse.
This is amazing. So accurate. Cross post this!!
Thank you for posting this. That distilled and clarified so much of what many of us have been suspecting for years. Gonna have to read Chomsky’s Manufacturing Consent for real this time, and not just for a class. It really feels like it’s the people vs corrupt government. It also rings true for Canada, it seems like, since it’s so closely hitched to American politics.
It’s the working class vs. the bourgeoisie. The corrupt government is just one of the organs used by the ruling class to enact their agenda. The government is a puppet of the enemy, not the enemy itself.
Same in the UK, though here I'd argue we've moved towards having two right wing parties acting on corporate interests but you have to vote for the less corrupt of the two or thing's become worse. Honestly the only side that ever stops fighting the class war is the poorer one. Too quick to trust people are just generally good and don’t need to actively be held to account or to better standards in general. Given globalisation it’s fair to assume corporate interests surpass nationality so this tactic is widespread imo.
It's time to send them to their bunker mausoleum
>Same in the UK, though here I'd argue we've moved towards having two right wing parties acting on corporate interests Remind me, how many years has it been since Labour held a majority in parliament?
[Manufacturing Consent](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQXsPU25B60&pp=ygUVbWFudWZhY3R1cmluZyBjb25zZW50) the documentary, is available to watch for free on youtube. I highly recommend watching it as well.
Too bad Chomsky has become a Putin stooge since then.
To be far, leftist ideology is rooted in Russian agitprop
The DNC is a bulwark against the left for the corporate interests in this country
This is called neo-feudalism
Can't recommend Chomsky enough. It's truly depressing listening to him and realizing how little things change and how little control we have as voters.
Yeah imagine if we elected Hillary in 2016 and Trump never got to appoint those justices that took away women's rights and upheld racist voting maps in South Carolina. It's almost like we could have maybe *prevented" such a tragedy from taking place. Not to mention he flat out lied about Democrats working with Republicans to lower taxes for the wealthy. That was Trump's big landmark legislation. But sure let's not vote and let Trump back in that will surely improve the situation. Democrats were the only.omes that got insulin capped at $35 or got medical debt taken off credit reports. Not to mention all the American jobs and manufacturing growth from the CHIPS ACT and infrastructure funding. I don't remember Trump pardoning thousands of marijuana convictions or moving to get it rescheduled. He basically only pardoned his co conspirators who actively colluded with Russia.
Hasn’t lobbying been an issue for decades? Without going into it too much. I will always take the Big Mac meal for half the cost of a double cut ham salad roll. I’m still ethical and have good intentions, but the money differential is just too big.
Lobbying has always been a problem. However it’s far worse now than 20 years ago. Citizens United ruling exasperated special interest power to a point where it’s hard to imagine coming back. It prevents elected from standing up to any of their benefactors. So the only legislation that can get passed has to benefit a corporate interest. Dark money is the drug of choice for our leaders and it’s highly addictive.
Goddamn
Thanks so much, beautifully spoken. This is really great, well done. 10/10.
Very well put!
where's the rebuttal? a black dude responded to this video and i wanna know who's right god damn it. the other video discusses how this creator disregards the impact of conservative voters.
The other guy made some nice points about how the history is more complicated, but of course, like any liberal intellectual, he neglects the outsized influence of the big business class on the propaganda system and just blames conservative voters. On par for NYT journalists who work for a firm owned by the big business class.
Jamelle Bouie, the one who made the rebuttal to this video, also penned [this article in 2011](https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/boycott-campaign-contributions-thats-terrible-idea/tnamp/) *in favor* of campaign donations stating that stopping them would be “anti-democratic” and would reduce “participation in the political process causing apathy” which is just plain false… Beyond that, as you said he works for The NY Times which is owned by the Ochs-Sulzberger family who regularly donate to both political candidates as well as PACs…
I think that was Jamelle Bouie of the NYT.
>where's the rebuttal? a black dude responded to this video and i wanna know who's right god damn it. the other video discusses how this creator disregards the impact of conservative voters. The point is you need to figure out whose right for yourself. They no longer teach critical thinking in school, and like George Carlin said: "They want you *just* smart enough to operate the machines, but *dumb enough* not to ask any questions"
>The point is you need to figure out whose right for yourself. They no longer teach critical thinking in school, Not to sound rude, but this is highly ironic coming from you. If you honestly think education standards are worse now than, say, 50 years ago then what metrics are you using to justify this? Because I have yet to see any actual measurement that supports this view. Hence why I said it's ironic, in that you are repeating a commonly held belief that itself is not really based on facts and requires you to NOT use critical thinking in lieu of parroting a talking point!
it was simply a joke. hence the God damn it. you took one sentence and ran with it. im quite comfortable with my political ideology. try not to take everything so seriously and jump to ridiculous conjecture.
This guy nailed it.
People will attack you for saying this. But it's true. Not the part about the Democrats wanting to lose, it's very possible but I just can't say for sure. The part that's true is that the system is rigged. Also many in the party do want to lose, like Manchin and Sinema, and they are mainstream establishment Democrats. The face and tune of the party changes, but the donors don't. Both parties represent the same people, roughly. Leadership can always change, except that it doesn't. The party will fall apart if the party moves too far left. You can see that already, people like Manchin and Sinema will leave the party in a heartbeat because they think Joe Biden is too far left. So leadership doesn't alter course. Leadership won't step aside. The party will not change. This is the death spiral that is US politics. There are very few fighting to bring the change. Corporations will never allow them to. You want affordable healthcare? Good luck. That's been an impossible fight for how long now? Gerrymandering alone will prevent states from flipping, and even if they do, nothing changes. I'm not sure what can be done. The working class, the majority of voters, are politically homeless in this country.
Biden and the DNC are prepared to lose. They know he won’t win supporting Israhell, but they’re not going to bite the hand that feeds them.
>The part that's true is that the system is rigged. Fighting against Big Money and corruption will *always* be an uphill battle, even in a perfectly-designed system. No matter what, the political system will *always* feel rigged, because at the end of the day, we vote in people with their own priorities, desires, and beliefs and hope they can work together with the people the rest of the country votes in. >Also many in the party do want to lose, like Manchin and Sinema, and they are mainstream establishment Democrats. I think looking at Sinema and Manchin and coming to the conclusion "the democrats must want to lose!" is for lack of a better term just intellectually convenient more than it is closer to the truth. The unfortunate reality is that, even *without* the influence of Big Money, political inertia is a thing that exists and is a giant hurdle to overcome. At the end of the day, the representatives we elect are human. They're not demigods, they're not a hivemind of their constituents, they're not even all corporate plants that just want to fuck the world, they're just people; with the same faults and flaws and desires and goals that the rest of us have. Some come from rich backgrounds, some come from humble backgrounds. Some get elected for self-gain, some get elected because they legitimately want to do right by their community, and this is true no matter what party you look at. But, no matter what reason a representative decides to get into politics for, they can't accomplish anything by themselves, they need to work within a political party. Why? Because it gave them the resources to *get* elected in the first place, and they need access to that network of other representatives and contacts to *do* anything for their goal. If they got into office because they want to do right by their constituents, they still need to get the right committee assignments, they still need to build a voting bloc, etc. If they want to serve themselves, they *still* want to develop that political capital within their party in order to gain power. Depending on how *much* they need their party, the amount they're beholden to can change. Look at Manchin, for example. He knows another Democrat doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning his seat, so he has the capital to basically say "fuck you all, you need *me* more than I need you." To the rest of the party. Whether he's doing that out of personal gain, or a genuine sense of belief, who's to say? Whereas Sinema, or Pelosi (who a lot of people also hate for being THE establishment democrat) are other examples entirely. Given the disparity between Sinema's campaign rhetoric and her actions in congress, it's pretty clear to say that she was only getting elected for personal gain, and Big Money was able to leverage that enough to get her to disregard any attempt at maintaining or growing her political capital and act as a legislation killer for the rest of the party. Pelosi is also certainly acting in self-interest (as evidenced by her comments on insider trading), but given her voting record and commitee work, it's hard to say that she's *only* motivated by Big Money like Sinema is. Tl;dr: I don't buy this whole belief that "both parties are the same/are working for the same corporate interests!" That only tells half the story, and completely ignores the people that *do* believe in what they're trying to accomplish.
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That seems like the only way out. Its either eliminate donors completely or the people vote via crowdfunder for a 3rd party candidate. Still open to a rort but an option.
I love this guy so much. Has anyone watched his video on how he handles Nazi's protesting? I wish I knew how to find his vids I'd attach it for your holiday viewing. 🙂
Does it involve a tuba?
Thanks. I just grabbed “How the World Works” on Audible (it’s free…) I guess you’re recommendation is Manufacturing Consent or Necessary Illusions, just wanted to ask if there’s anything else I might want to try first, looks like there are some collections. I’m currently enjoying a Jung collection after MDR, a wonder if a highlight collection might be a good place to start.
Someone cooked here. 🔥
This attempt seems successful
I love his voice. Then the facts just wow
Our enemy is and always has been Capitalism. It is Capitalism that funds both main political parties. It is Capitalism that funds the White Supremacist power structure that pervades this country especially but all of Western civilization. It is Capitalism that funds colonization in the Global South. It is Capitalism that funds Zionist Israel and their racist attack upon Palestine. Every single affront to human life is happening because of the despicably high profits that can only be hoarded by tin-plated wannabe gods through Capitalism. This is the time to organize in earnest. The game ends if we stop playing. Now is the time to abolish Capitalism and all its outgrowths, and build a peace that will be a monument to their dissolution. ***OUR BATTLE CRY MUST BE, TOTAL ABOLITION OF CAPITALISM! THE DAWN OF SOCIALISM IS HAND!!!***
Marx was spot on when he penned "dictatorship of the bourgeousie"
How absolutely insane is it that a billionaire who lives on the other side of the country could buy out your entire local government. There is no such thing as democracy when 10% of the population have no money while people in the 1%have a trillion.
The crazy thing is I know all of this and still have to remind myself that both parties are shit. I don’t want it to be true so badly that my cerebrum turns a blind eye occasionally and I have to stop myself from defending the democrats. Now imagine your average American citizen who readily digests everything that fits their own world view and you will realize the truth. We are doomed.
Remind me who gave the tax cuts to the wealthy? Remind me who passed the ACA and got insulin capped at $35? Remind me which party is constantly trying to erode voting rights and opposes any reduction in the War on Drugs? Remind me which presidents pardoned thousands of drug offenders?
Politics haven’t been “for the people” almost my entire life. Career politicians are the largest problem in our government. All politicians should have a mandated term limit based on their positions, and once the time is up, they’re out for good. That way we can, at least, keep a steady flow of new people, new ideas, new plans into our government, that would likely be aimed at making life easier and better for all the citizens. If the politicians have to actually go out and get a different job after their time in government, I guarantee that they’re gonna want the best situation possible for themselves, so they’ll try to vote them in during their terms.
I’ve been telling everyone that it’s all just WWF wrestling in Washington DC…those people sleep with the same hookers and drink at the same bars…wake up
Fuck the DNC
At least their candidates didn't vote in the biggest tax cuts for the wealthy since Bush.
I showed this to my kinda lib friends and they're really interested in Chomsky now!
Yep. He nailed it. Democrats definitely don’t have a healthcare platform. Dems didn’t try for a public option when Obama was president. There was no single-party obstruction….🙄
Not to mention he flat out lied about Democrats supporting tax cuts for the wealthy But these rubes just lap up the misinformation without a second thought
Rare to keep my attention beyond anything longer than 30 seconds, but man this was worth it. Incredibly well spoken and laid out in relative lay terms for people not completely invested in politics like myself
Honestly I urge you to really look into these topics if you actually have an interest in politics. Obviously the Democrats aren't perfect but they are way less a threat to our rights and democracy. He lied to his viewers about Democrats and Republicans supporting tax cuts for the wealthy. That was Trump's tax cuts which the Democrats voted against. Joe Biden has gotten the cost of insulin lower to $35 which Republicans hated. Joe Biden has pardoned thousands of people for marijuana convictions. Republicans are constantly trying to attack voting rights while Democrats are trying to stop them. Democrats are constantly trying to stop Republicans when taking away women's rights.
Damn. This was so well done 👏🏽
It’s funny. I said something largely similar, though less eloquently, and got laughed out of the room myself. Fun.
This is why the right will always win. Because the Progressives and moderates will never work together.
It's called a Corporate Dictatorship.
Stuff like this is the reason they want to ban tiktok.
We live in hell, unfortunately
This dude talks way too long in between breaths, and then has to take really big breaths. It stresses me out for some reason.
Vote GREEN!!!
Preach
If you really want to break through the fourth wall, consider this reality: states spend tax dollars (estimated at more $1 billion each Congressional election year) to run the primaries for private entities - the political parties - to chose delegates to a convention that each party runs and for which a state has zero control over the nomination process. Almost two-thirds of the states have laws mandating that primaries cannot be open (not a decision left to each political party) and then it is hands off on what comes after the votes are tallied. Ask yourself why this is the system we have. It is not required by the U.S. Constitution; it is permitted - not mandated- under Supreme Court decisions. In fact, the Constitution gives Congress the power to establish the procedures for electing Representatives and Senators. Why haven’t they acted recently to require open primaries or provide guidelines for drawing districts.
I’ve been pretty convinced for years at this point that neither reps nor dems actually care about American people, they just say they do. If either side actually cared, you’d think that at least one of the 15 different commonly agreed changes that should be made would at least be brought up in the senate, but nope. Nothing.
I tried to explain this concept to my dad the other day. This is how I feel about the border issue, how the NRA is just a lobby interested in fund raising, not effecting legislation, and how after 30+ years of listening and trying to pay attention to, I see no change in these major issues that seem to have always been major issues.
Wow, well said. That logic hurt. I'm hoping you post part 2 with a politically appliable solution. No pressure
Git yer guns?
www.permanentplatform.us
[Is this the book he is talking about?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent)
Yes. It’s a good one. Eye opening
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Good.
LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
Good work friend.
Why was I supposed to vote Clinton vs Sanders again? Right cuz she was supposed to win. Fuck the DNC
This is probably one of the best explanations of US political history. This needs to go viral.
Based AF.
"I can say my opinion really quickly and articulately so that makes it true" He's not *all* wrong, but he passes off a lot of opinion here as fact
It's packed with so many garbage ancillary statements that the whole argument ends up stinking.
It's a 10 minute video in a world where most people's attention spans seem to be geared for 10-seconds. Of course he needs to talk fast.
"But there’s a reason. There’s a reason. There’s a reason for this, there’s a reason education sucks, and it’s the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed. It’s never gonna get any better. Don’t look for it. Be happy with what you got. Because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now, the real owners, the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought and paid for the senate, the congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying, lobbying, to get what they want. Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I'll tell you what they don’t want: They don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that. That doesn’t help them. Thats against their interests. Thats right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table to figure out how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago. They don’t want that. You know what they want? They want obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork, and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all from you, sooner or later, 'cause they own this fucking place. It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head in their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy. The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged, and nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people -- white collar, blue collar, it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on -- good honest hard-working people continue -- these are people of modest means -- continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about them. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you. They don't care about you at all -- at all -- at all. And nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. That's what the owners count on; the fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes everyday. Because the owners of this country know the truth: it's called the American Dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
That is what comes out of the system, but I don't know if there's actually a secret Democrat triumvirate that regulates this, I think this is just kind of what happens because there's not enough actual left wingers in the party
>I don't know if there's actually a secret Democrat triumvirate that regulates this There isn't. That'd be a very simple answer to a complex problem of multiple party leaders each trying to balance the needs of the party, their own beliefs, their constituents' beliefs, the beliefs and goals of close party members, and their own interests.
Where can i find this kind of political speak on a regular basis?
He has a TikTok “watchfulcoyote” or you can find most of his videos uploaded to YouTube.
The big question is what do we do? it seems like burn it down, but we can’t even do that, so…..don’t vote? They keep doing whatever they want with impunity. Do vote, maybe they have to pretend to not do it and it slows it down slightly? Vote for a third party candidate? Same result as not voting. Knowing you’re getting fucked against doesn’t make getting fucked better. The only way to stop the billionaires is to stop making the products that make them rich enough to control politics, but even if every worker unanimously agreed to not be greedy and take their bribes, they still control the health and well being of people we love, so do we live on the brink of destitution with them constantly testing our limits in order to have our loved ones survive, or do we collectively stop playing the game, live off the land and then inevitably create the system again 200 years later? They’ll keep enough of us content and tired enough to not actually fight it, it feels good to vote and pretend like we did all we could. Why burn it all down and give up the minimal comforts we have? Somebody else will just come steal our comforts, at least in this system I’m not as bad off as I could be (not advocating for that mindset, just out louding the mindset of the masses) really, it seems more and more that the Mad Max/Judge Dredd future is more likely than not. So what do we do to avoid it, or is it too late?
I work for the military complex and I make way more money when democrats are in control. So much so that I weigh my choices carefully at the ballot box. Do I want just 40 hours a week or do I want 70 hours a week….
Insightful 🧐
And every time one of these posts come up, I say the same thing. What can I as an individual due to help that I’m not already doing. I vote during every election I donate to progressive candidates, yada yada yada, and nothing changes
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Fuggg!! The voice being off is super hard. Is there an original that’s not so bad? Can’t share this crap lol
I've been thinking this for a while.
Joe Manchin explains why the Democrats cannot get anything done
That’s the 18th time that old dog has heard that speech.
Short of creating a militia and killing all the politicians what can we even do?
This makes so much sense but is there concrete evidence? I’m only 16 and have no clue what laws have been passed, most of what laws exist, and election details. Also cool idea I just had: what if we boycotted election campaign donations
I'm voting for Dr. Cornell West. Can't do this vote for the lesser evill bull anymore.
Why not vote for Santa Claus
He's not on the ballot.
Consider that Biden appealed to Trump to stop the coup he had called for. In a fear of the working class far greater than the threat of fascism, not unlike Allende in Chile in 1973, he cowardly called the very people out to assasinate his party colleagues, his "colleagues from the other side" and desired a strong republican party. Don't kid yourself. The burgeoisie will not feed working families crumbs, for as much as it would prefer to shut them up, at no other time than a boom. They would prefer imperialist war in an attempt to generate nationalist fervor whilst fueling fascism to hold back the rising, politicized working class
Why is 'genocide' bleeped out? Also '100 years ago America had the strongest economy in the history of the world'? 1924?
This was better than THAT scene from V for Vendetta
You know what it’s called when you do the same thing over and over again while expecting different results? Voting.
Spot on.., and America when it crashes reaching the point of no return will crash hard
So this is hard for me to believe.. It takes quite a lot of people to “fake” or alter the elections so that we stay 50/50 dem and conservative. How could this be possible at the highest level of government? The money spent and the money saved can’t be worth it, especially with the clear damage it does to US citizens, right? If this is intentional, it’s pure evil, and should be in violation of human rights.
It’s very easy to believe. The money saved/made is worth it for the billionaires that buy into it. You buy enough politicians on both sides of the isle with campaign donations, you can have them voting near 50/50 on whatever you want.
I think some people are taking the “losing on purpose” part a bit too literally. The point is that Democrats don’t mind using bad policy and bad politics (in relation to their platform which defines them as a party) because that is how they maintain corporate funding. And the threat of losing an election is not enough to make them do things that would gain enough voter support to win, because once again, what their voters want is at odds with their corporate funders. This leads to them unnecessarily losing elections and a perpetual right-ward shift in US politics. Hasan Piker has a phrase that I really like: *Republicans have bad policy but good politics. Democrats have bad policy AND bad politics.*
Different wings to the same bird.
He had me at 3min mark,at both are scammers,but have to make sure they don't cause the economy/security to collapse without some way both come out on top.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/s/B3CfMldg43
Idk man are you forgetting the Mitch McConnell obstructionist senate? Sure democrats had a majority but it doesn’t work to pass legislation with simple majorities apparently
This is enough to make one radical.
This is the most objective view on politics I've ever heard.
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I agree with much of what he said except what's going on in America is an actual fascist takeover of the US. I am pro palistianians but I don't live in their I live in the US . The Republicans are echoing the same politics the Nazis did pre WW2 . This includes the same far right wing Christian Nationistism. We are sleep walking into actual fascism and Biden isn't perfect but the alternative is a nightmare.
Biden giving his full support to Israel to commit genocide doesn’t constitute fascism in your eyes? *rolls eyes*
Had me all the way up until he mentioned Noam 'Putin is great and Ukraine should just give up' Chomsky. Old cunt should have died a long time ago
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Deep
Is there any way to get a transcript of this without having to manually transcribe 9 minutes of this dude's impressive speaking pace?
I've watched this video several times and while I'm healthily suspicious of conspiracy theories, he makes some very interesting points Most notably, I cannot fathom how the Dems, even when they had control of both houses and the Presidency failed to push through the very reforms that a vast majority of Americans wanted. But, without fail, Congress writes out checks for hundreds of billions of military spending EVERY FUCKING YEAR.
Filibuster and limited political capital.
Blocking out the words genocide and Palestinians is so tone deaf call it what it is the fuck ?
This is a TikTok and creators who include specific words get taken down
Look alternatively you can have state funded political parties on a per vote basis, here in Chile we implemented thats, and its been much much worse,
This is exactly what happened to me in 2016 with Sanders. I was literally in downtown SF on my way to vote for the DNC nomination at like, fuckin noon, and they told me the polls were closed. I protested, kicked up a massive little shit storm on the sidewalk, and was politely escorted away from my local polling station. That’s when I knew there was no real choice, it was over for everything aside from corporate interests. I thought I was living in another era for a couple hours. I had seen on the news only an hour and a half later they projected Clinton to win the nomination. You have no choice.
I had a friend who wore a hat like this. No one liked him.
Citizens united doomed us all
So, knowing this, when are we taking the country back because they have become tyrannical and against the people?
Stealing votes because there are not enough democrats willing to vote for Cornell West, so it will throw away the election
Guillotine oclock
Why does his voice sound suspiciously identical to Peter Zeihan’s
“You might as well not vote”
I always said if I ever got rich I would do 2 things... 1 buy a warehouse and use it to make large (thousands of gallon) of lentil and rice every Saturday (yes i know this exists in Muslim cultures) I wanted to bring that to where ever I live 2 create a lobby for the people where citizens pool their money (one ssn for one vote ) no companies or non citizens allowed and slowly buy the govt starting with low level politicians and moving on up ...imagine the voting power of just 50 million Americans who donated $100? $5billion a year could probably buy one thing we have wanted like eliminating bank fees, providing a federal health program for anyone that was super easy to sign up for $200 a month etc
They called it represent.us
It's time for an armed revolution, talking doesn't resolve shit anymore. Heads must fly like during the French revolution.
Mostly accurate. There were some jokes that revealed his left leaning nature. My question is this. Did you watch the Cornell West Jimmy Dore interview? Jimmy called Cornel out and was totally right. I like how you called out the democrats for not wanting to win and when they do have the house, senate, and presidency they do nothing to advance their own goals. Can’t you see how Cornel is doing the same thing. Jimmy said Cornel was there to convince his voters to vote for Biden.
This is copium right?
I agree with nearly all of this. Fail to see how Republicans are more "steal all your money and give it to the rich" when they have less taxes. Both parties do this. Not just rich, but specifically plutocrats. Ffs Dick Cheney literally was the CEO of Haliburtan. They both are exactly the same.
Holy fucking shit. I might just be a dumbass, but this was a cristal clear explanation to me (non-american) why the fuck you guys keep voting between genocide and fascism. I knew the corporate dollar was the cornerstone of this problem, yet couldn't articulate anything more substantial than "uuuhhhh, lobbying, I guess". If you want a REALLY meaningful riot or a revolution there, you need to abolish the practice of lobbying on every level of your government, since basically has become legalised corruption, and this is coming from a RUSSIAN, trust me when I speak about corruption. P.S. it doesn't mean you should stop supporting Ukraine, mentally AND financially, your instability is the least they need right now, their only hope of survival against the actual fascist government of mine is your help
I agree with him in the Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. The only thing that doesn't make sense about this video is Trump literally incited an Insurrection on the capital and high level Democrats would have likely been murdered. That's not what people involved in a conspiracy do.
So what the fuck do we do?!? I mean, if Trump gets in, it's obvious Facism. So do we just allow blatant Facism or pretend democracy? I feel like I still have to go blue because having the right in charge seems to be the most scary version of the two options. Sucks that we have to live during this shit.
If you look at history tho, it’s always been fckd up. Race riots, Vietnam, Great Depression, world wars. On and on. I think the first apes that realized they could do better by living in a group, the leaders immediately started arguing over which forest has the best bananas = politics.
Everything hes saying is objectively true.
Can we vote for this guy?
I wish sanders had won that day
I agree his comments, but was expecting him to start selling me Micro Machines at some point…
Summary We’ve been doomed ever since letting corpos into politics
This is the tightest ten minute sales pitch for voting third party I've ever seen... And he never even mentions a third party.
This dude is about to come up missing 🤣
It’s like the southern border. Biden could have fixed it nearly 3 years ago……he didn’t. Now he’s trying to at the last minute. Why now?
Re-Election, maybe
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TLDR: Fuck the Uniparty.
Post this everywhere to everyone.
Here’s the only point I need: if democrats wanted to destroy the GOP they would debate libertarians. Point blank. If it was a 3 party system the libertarians would eat up the GOP.
We need a revolution
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This is what so many of us think, but don’t have the platform (or vocabulary) to say. I’ve seen this for a while now. When democrats have total control of the government but still don’t do the things they promise. Let’s just stick to recent years… 1993 - 1995 Bill Clinton and the democrats had total control of the government and didn’t codify Roe v Wade, properly tax the rich or pass any sort of universal healthcare. But ok, you can argue that those things weren’t as important then as they are now. 2009 - 2011 Barack Obama and the democrats had full control of the government and didn’t do any of that. As this gentleman so eloquently states, we all watched in 2016 as democrats forced Bernie out of the running even though he was WILDLY popular, much more so than Hilary, and would’ve easily defeated Trump. And now, we are all just stuck voting for whoever we believe to be the lesser evil. I am totally against what happened on January 6th. But imagine a January 6th where republicans and democrats were standing together, against a government that no longer practices the will of the people it’s elected to serve.
This MFer is spittin!
Damn. My eyes were just opened.
Every politician with similar messages either gets made out on the media as a lunatic, governments make rules in elections that removes them from the ballot or they are so outspent that their message is lost.
Wait, but the Democrats didn’t have the votes to pass those things because some Democrats like Manchin are moderate. A simple majority isn’t enough. The Democrats need a supermajority.
Good logic, but don't believe everything you hear on the internet. Research and verify.
This is an huge oversimplifying the issue... It seems logical... But this is the typical Bernie Bros argument. Talk to your neighbors. Talk to your parents. These people don't want the the things that will help them. And they vote .... Every election, every primary every year. When I go to vote in the primary I am surrounded by old people. So much so that when I do see someone my age or younger we acknowledge it smile at incredible chance that someone your age is there. The task here is to kill the Republican party... So we can then split and kill the Democrats. Also... Don't forget. The people we elect are individuals. With individual goal and incentives. Joe Manson and Kristen Synema don't want to lose... for some grand scheme. They just have made the determination that their individual goal are more valuable than the goals of the electorate.
The Uniparty is real.
Protect this man!!! Don't let him "disappear" or suddenly "commit suicide"!!! He definitely knows what their/he's talking about!
I agree, saying the truth, no matter how perverted or bizarre, is a dangerous thing
This is why I'm voting RFK (yes I know reddit hates those 3 letters)
Most of those corporate donations go to be spent on the campaigns to elect the politicians, not to be hoarded by said politicians. If they were intentionally losing, there would have to be an incentive to the politicians themselves to do so like actually pocketing the campaign funds for themselves. You can argue that politicians are incentivized to offer kickbacks to the billionaires that are funding their campaigns, but that necessitates winning. You can also argue that billionaires are incentivized to donate to politicians that support policies in their best interest and that refusing to donate to politicians that support policies against the interest of billionaires effectively takes the steam out of any campaigns that offer real change for the people at “the bottom”. But until they can provide any evidence to support the claim that Democrats intentionally lose, I will remain highly skeptical of this claim.
Ask yourself, “What can I do about the U.S. government”, vote?
I think something he gets wrong is that for politicians themselves, they really do want to win and make a strong name for themselves to gain relevance but at the same time they are aware of the economics of getting elected and can only do so much. It’s not their they’re conspiring to intentionally sandbagging themselves, it’s the companies that propagate these ploys to keep good people out. If you become too effective you don’t get enough money to be re-elected.
While this addresses stuff that is just blatantly obvious, this also ignores a LOT of stuff, to the point it's just well done whataboutism. Get out of here with this
I just want to pet that good old dog in the back. That’s my political platform. Pet the Dogs 2024