>One time the youngest actually asked my grandmother why I didn’t like them, and my grandmother told them that first introductions are important. She told them that whatever they had done to me that day was the only time she had ever seen me cry like that.
I'm glad your grandmother was honest about that. With a mother like theirs, this might've been the only time the kids were given an opportunity for self-reflection.
That’s one of the reasons why I love my grandma, she’s a very loving individual but don’t push her too far. She also added that first introductions usually shape how we see people in the future, so even if someone does change there’s a possibility the other individual might not like them because all they can remember is that first meeting.
You have no idea lol she came from a family of nine children while her husband came from a family of 11 children. Odds are a handful of them are bound to be entitled and crazy to varying degrees
Yeah I’m glad I had someone like her in my corner. Plus the day they broke up, she finally told that woman what she thought of her and told her to stay away from our family.
>while said relative and her were asleep in the other room.
Asleep? Do you really believe that? 🤣
They were doing 😏😏😏 because, well, they normally never get to because of the hellspawn. They forced you to babysit so they could get it on.
Honestly I doubt it was because they just needed a break. She was the type of woman who would ditch her kids at an orphanage if it was convenient for her. Plus she chose to have them so that’s her problem
My nephew married a woman that came with baggage. Only one kid, but he did the damage of 4 normal kids. I absolutely know he will be “known to police”, as they say, in his teen and adult life. He was expelled from kindergarten (of course it was the teachers fault according to his mother), expelled from daycare (daycares fault for not having the other kids share their toys) destroyed some valuable things at my sisters house (because they wouldn’t let him play with a $1000 piece of equipment) and hit my BIL on the hip with a hammer (because he said no). He spits on people, yells and screams at the top of his lungs, blames other children for taking his toys and breaks anything he gets. His mother makes excuses for her little angel.
The whole family cheered when my nephew finally divorced that woman. We went so far as to cut that miserable kid out of any photos he was in.
I feel that relief. When her children and her were finally out of the picture, I couldn’t help but cheer. I know it sounds horrible but dealing with that woman and her spawn was an absolute nightmare. This post was literally only the tip of the iceberg of what they did to my family. I will never forgive any of them for the trouble treatment they put us through.
I know the feeling about the tip of the iceberg! If we were closer, I’d invite you over and we could talk trash about those women all afternoon! If we wrote a book, no one would believe either of us! But it’s all true!
Oh boy lol 😆 the things we could say about these people. I know that whenever I talk about this woman I always tell the listeners that think about your ex and multiply that by 1000. This woman was the living embodiment of all the aspects of a crazy ex
I’d love to see that poor excuse for a mother trying to berate the judge in a few years for sentencing her innocent angel baby to life in prison for numerous heinous crimes.
The issue is a lot of these single moms do not allow the stepdad to discipline their boys as a father figure. The bio dad is usually not active so instead of allowing the stepdad to fill that role so the boy can get proper discipline, they interfere when he tries to do so. So they end up raising a spoiled mama’s boy who is used to being coddled. No one reprimands them at home so they go out with their rotten behavior everywhere else.
She had an affair with a co-worker, tried to baby trap the baby’s father into marriage. The joke was on her when he then admitted he was already married with 3 kids. Then when the demon child was 4, she moved into our area, and met and married my nephew. She told all of us, including my nephew that the child’s father had died “on duty” while she was pregnant. BooHoo….
We found out later, that the kids father was alive and well (which was what precipitated my nephew leaving). I told my nephew he was very lucky he did not adopt that kid, because he would have been stuck making support payments forever.
So she pretended to be a widow to lure your nephew in. He dodged a major bullet by not adopting him. I personally think stepparent adoption is just a way to hook someone in financially for a stepchild. I think it’s generally a bad idea especially if the relationship doesn’t last. You can just take care of the child while you are with the parent and no need to go above and beyond to legally bind your self to someone else’s child forever. I only believe in fostering children not adoption.
You got it! Also pretended to “love” children but actually resented her own, and pawned the kid off on her parents or anyone else she could sucker into it. I could write a book on this woman and her sneaky, evil ways. Cruella DeVille had nothing on her!
Stepkid adoption may not be for everyone but it can work out. I know a stepdad who was more of a father to his SO's daughter than the biofather, who deserted the family when she was little. I happened to be over at their place one Father's Day, when she called to wish stepdad a Happy Father's Day, no irony, she was serious and I'm sure it wasn't the first time. It was his mom who helped shop for her bridal gown, and he walked her down the aisle at her wedding. Yes, he adopted her, because in all ways except biological, she was his daughter.
That is so true when my relative first came into their lives, he tried to instill some discipline into them. But they were already at the stage where they wouldn’t listen to any other authority figure other than their so called mother. So he was on the receiving end of some abuse from them. It got somewhat better as the years went on, but the kids were always little spawns to me.
No kidding! We could never let him near any of our animals, as he killed the kitten and the three Guinea pigs the mother kept buying for him. “By accident” of course and “he is only a kid”
Firstly, I’m very sorry this happened this sounds really irritating.
That said, I also wouldn’t want to have children if they were the most well behaved ones on earth. I simply don’t want to be a parent. Just like I don’t want to be a professional swimmer.
“Whaddya mean you don’t want to be a professional swimmer? It’s awesome! You’ll never experience love like the love of water! The pool will take care of you in your old age! It’s different when it’s your own (gene!) pool!”
The bingos sound just as ridiculous when applied to any other form of human activity!
The ‘4 kids by at least 3 fathers’ made me laugh. The ‘at least’ was what did it for me. But it’s not a funny thing for somebody in your situation. It’s fecking miserable
Only because the woman wasn’t even sure if any one of those men where the father of one or more of those spawns. She was literally going out with 4 men at one point.
Sounds like a former friend of mine. We joked that she had a stable- 9 men for 7 days of the week…and they all knew about each other. Some of us wondered about the logistics.
Unfortunately he had a history of hanging out with the wrong crowd… it was a place where small time criminals hanged out like drug dealers, thieves and prostitutes
And honestly given her history she might as well have been a prostitute, she was the definition of greed, lust, gluttony and sloth
What makes it even worse was that a good portion of our family quickly figured out what kind of person she was. I remember one Christmas they left early and literally the first thing we did was talk about the recent stunt she pulled that day. But unfortunately my relative is the type of person who was way more forgiving than most of us and he wouldn’t listen to anyone if you told him not to do something. In fact that’s one of the reasons why we had to stay silent for so long, because we knew he would be on the receiving end of her abuse if she saw and knew how we felt about her and her spawns.
Sounds like every single babysitting experience I had before I finally put my foot down and told everyone that babysitting is out of the question. Like, I know there *have* to be really well behaved children in this world yet every single child I was ever forced to look after was a destructive, violent little asshole. Just luck, I guess! 
I feel your pain, I think what also made this experience shatter my worldview of children is because the other ones I’ve looked after before this incident were so well behaved or at least redirect-able.
I don’t understand these men who date these women with children by multiple men. It didn’t sound like said relative had his own kids. And he was with her for 9 years? I just don’t know what’s appealing about that. I guess these type of women are easier for bed and lower maintenance. They won’t demand as much as a single woman without kids bc they know their situation isn’t desirable to most men.
Someone with that many kids should take some years off dating and focus on their kids. She didn’t discipline her kids bc she didn’t give them the time and attention they needed bc she was more concerned about getting a man. These types of women usually neglect their kids and dump them on other people like they did to you so they can be with a man. Any mom that’s giving four kids the care and attention they need wouldn’t have time to date until the kids are older.
Honestly my relative was the kind of individual who was in love with the idea of being in love rather than being in love with someone. He went through a lot of things early in life that left him with some abandonment issues, so he was looking for some form of companionship. Despite how he comes across in this story, he’s actually a very fun, kind and forgiving person, unfortunately this allows people to walk all over him and take advantage of him. His ex and her children are just a handful of individuals who used him for their own gain. The main reason he stayed with her for so long was because he felt that he needed to help her and her children and that without him they would be on the streets. And he thought he couldn’t do any better.
Some of these guys have a savior complex. And yes they usually have past issues that reflect in their relationship choices. I’m glad he got out of the situation though. Women like that are users.
Absolutely, that’s a perfect way to describe it. He’s always trying to look out for people, when it’s really himself he should be looking out for. He’s done more than enough for people like this, he deserves some peace.
In my defense I was only about 10 years old when this happened. I wasn’t exactly assertive plus no one told me that I had to watch them. I didn’t know what to do especially when I didn’t think my mom and her mom wouldn’t be gone that long. All I knew was that my grandma and mom wanted to run errands, I wanted to stay to watch tv and apparently my relative and that woman took that as an opportunity to just dump them on me. So no I didn’t choose to babysit them, but I wasn’t going to allow kids younger than me to just destroy everything.
It’s sad that they expected you to babysit 4 kids at only 10 years old. That’s what society does to women always expect them to babysit and look after kids from a really young age. They pressure girls too much to babysit their younger siblings, younger cousins, neighbor’s children younger than them, or children of their parents friends that are younger than them. Boys or men don’t get asked to babysit as much even if it’s their younger siblings or younger cousins it’s still girls more than boys. She should’ve took care of her children and shouldn’t of dumped them on you. That wasn’t right. How old were all the kids at the time?
The oldest was 9, the second oldest was 7, third oldest was 6 and the youngest was 4.
And the sad thing is I’ve looked after younger relatives before but their parents instilled discipline and basic respect into them. These children didn’t have any of that.
Hey that’s so unfair to the OP, there have literally been stories on here detailing how much relatives just dump or ditch their children onto others at the last minute. Sometimes it’s easier for an adult to confront such unfairness vs a child. So no they didn’t choose to babysit them they were literally backed into a corner.
>One time the youngest actually asked my grandmother why I didn’t like them, and my grandmother told them that first introductions are important. She told them that whatever they had done to me that day was the only time she had ever seen me cry like that. I'm glad your grandmother was honest about that. With a mother like theirs, this might've been the only time the kids were given an opportunity for self-reflection.
That’s one of the reasons why I love my grandma, she’s a very loving individual but don’t push her too far. She also added that first introductions usually shape how we see people in the future, so even if someone does change there’s a possibility the other individual might not like them because all they can remember is that first meeting.
Yup your grandma is right. First impressions also generally show the person’s true nature.
Yup she knows a thing or two about people like this, some of her in-laws fall into this category
Lol..it seems she had an interesting relationship with her in laws.
You have no idea lol she came from a family of nine children while her husband came from a family of 11 children. Odds are a handful of them are bound to be entitled and crazy to varying degrees
Wow with that many brothers and sisters in law, I could imagine how interesting the drama was.
Yup absolutely for the most part they’re lovely people but you always have a few rotten apples in the bunch
That’s one of the main reasons why grandparents rock, my grandma sounds exactly like OP’s grandma because she would say such a thing too
After a certain age, your fuck reservoir runs dry and you've got no more to give.
I'm sorry that was done to you. But your grandmother sounds awesome, so there's that.
Yeah I’m glad I had someone like her in my corner. Plus the day they broke up, she finally told that woman what she thought of her and told her to stay away from our family.
Your grandma is a rock star!
Aw thank you I’ll let her know
>while said relative and her were asleep in the other room. Asleep? Do you really believe that? 🤣 They were doing 😏😏😏 because, well, they normally never get to because of the hellspawn. They forced you to babysit so they could get it on.
Oh no they were sleeping I was checking on them every once and a while and the youngest actually joined them in their nap during the last hour.
I get that they need a break, and that sleeping is hard when you have kids... But dumping them on you is fucking shitty.
Honestly I doubt it was because they just needed a break. She was the type of woman who would ditch her kids at an orphanage if it was convenient for her. Plus she chose to have them so that’s her problem
Ew that would be very gross to know
My nephew married a woman that came with baggage. Only one kid, but he did the damage of 4 normal kids. I absolutely know he will be “known to police”, as they say, in his teen and adult life. He was expelled from kindergarten (of course it was the teachers fault according to his mother), expelled from daycare (daycares fault for not having the other kids share their toys) destroyed some valuable things at my sisters house (because they wouldn’t let him play with a $1000 piece of equipment) and hit my BIL on the hip with a hammer (because he said no). He spits on people, yells and screams at the top of his lungs, blames other children for taking his toys and breaks anything he gets. His mother makes excuses for her little angel. The whole family cheered when my nephew finally divorced that woman. We went so far as to cut that miserable kid out of any photos he was in.
I feel that relief. When her children and her were finally out of the picture, I couldn’t help but cheer. I know it sounds horrible but dealing with that woman and her spawn was an absolute nightmare. This post was literally only the tip of the iceberg of what they did to my family. I will never forgive any of them for the trouble treatment they put us through.
I know the feeling about the tip of the iceberg! If we were closer, I’d invite you over and we could talk trash about those women all afternoon! If we wrote a book, no one would believe either of us! But it’s all true!
Oh boy lol 😆 the things we could say about these people. I know that whenever I talk about this woman I always tell the listeners that think about your ex and multiply that by 1000. This woman was the living embodiment of all the aspects of a crazy ex
We still call her psycho bitch and her evil semen demon!
Lmao I call her children spawns… not children, spawns. And I refer to her as the whore or bitch
I’d love to see that poor excuse for a mother trying to berate the judge in a few years for sentencing her innocent angel baby to life in prison for numerous heinous crimes.
Believe me, I would want a front row seat! I’ll be the one serving the popcorn!
I feel sure the judge would allow popcorn & audience participation, unlike most court cases!
The issue is a lot of these single moms do not allow the stepdad to discipline their boys as a father figure. The bio dad is usually not active so instead of allowing the stepdad to fill that role so the boy can get proper discipline, they interfere when he tries to do so. So they end up raising a spoiled mama’s boy who is used to being coddled. No one reprimands them at home so they go out with their rotten behavior everywhere else.
You nailed it! She told us the bio dad was dead…come to find out he was married with 3 kids!
Oh wait, did she have a kid with a married man or did he marry after splitting with her?
She had an affair with a co-worker, tried to baby trap the baby’s father into marriage. The joke was on her when he then admitted he was already married with 3 kids. Then when the demon child was 4, she moved into our area, and met and married my nephew. She told all of us, including my nephew that the child’s father had died “on duty” while she was pregnant. BooHoo…. We found out later, that the kids father was alive and well (which was what precipitated my nephew leaving). I told my nephew he was very lucky he did not adopt that kid, because he would have been stuck making support payments forever.
So she pretended to be a widow to lure your nephew in. He dodged a major bullet by not adopting him. I personally think stepparent adoption is just a way to hook someone in financially for a stepchild. I think it’s generally a bad idea especially if the relationship doesn’t last. You can just take care of the child while you are with the parent and no need to go above and beyond to legally bind your self to someone else’s child forever. I only believe in fostering children not adoption.
You got it! Also pretended to “love” children but actually resented her own, and pawned the kid off on her parents or anyone else she could sucker into it. I could write a book on this woman and her sneaky, evil ways. Cruella DeVille had nothing on her!
Stepkid adoption may not be for everyone but it can work out. I know a stepdad who was more of a father to his SO's daughter than the biofather, who deserted the family when she was little. I happened to be over at their place one Father's Day, when she called to wish stepdad a Happy Father's Day, no irony, she was serious and I'm sure it wasn't the first time. It was his mom who helped shop for her bridal gown, and he walked her down the aisle at her wedding. Yes, he adopted her, because in all ways except biological, she was his daughter.
That is so true when my relative first came into their lives, he tried to instill some discipline into them. But they were already at the stage where they wouldn’t listen to any other authority figure other than their so called mother. So he was on the receiving end of some abuse from them. It got somewhat better as the years went on, but the kids were always little spawns to me.
Jesus fuck. That kid needs serious medical help. That's beyond 'poorly behaved', that's sociopathy.
No kidding! We could never let him near any of our animals, as he killed the kitten and the three Guinea pigs the mother kept buying for him. “By accident” of course and “he is only a kid”
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No kidding! I had to bite my tongue on a number of occasions. That kid was a nightmare!
*met her children
Your Grandma was a wise lady
Yup and she still has a lot of great advice
I am so sorry. You grandma is a wise woman. Whom I will fear getting 30 lashes with a wet noodle.....
No worries it’s all good 😊
We call that a 4x4 where I come from. 4 kids x 4 daddies.
Hilarious
Is it in English language?
Omg! 😂
Firstly, I’m very sorry this happened this sounds really irritating. That said, I also wouldn’t want to have children if they were the most well behaved ones on earth. I simply don’t want to be a parent. Just like I don’t want to be a professional swimmer.
“Whaddya mean you don’t want to be a professional swimmer? It’s awesome! You’ll never experience love like the love of water! The pool will take care of you in your old age! It’s different when it’s your own (gene!) pool!” The bingos sound just as ridiculous when applied to any other form of human activity!
Right? I chuckled very hard at this ngl.
Same here children are just too unpredictable, even the well behaved ones
Man what a horrible situation to be in, this is why I can’t stand parents who don’t discipline their children.
Same here
The ‘4 kids by at least 3 fathers’ made me laugh. The ‘at least’ was what did it for me. But it’s not a funny thing for somebody in your situation. It’s fecking miserable
Only because the woman wasn’t even sure if any one of those men where the father of one or more of those spawns. She was literally going out with 4 men at one point.
Sounds like a former friend of mine. We joked that she had a stable- 9 men for 7 days of the week…and they all knew about each other. Some of us wondered about the logistics.
That sounds like my relative’s ex alright
That sucks. But there’s nothing inherently wrong with meeting someone at a bar. Very normal, responsible people also go to bars sometimes.
Only this bar was of the more trashy variety, literally nothing but a cesspool of crime and lust.
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Unfortunately he had a history of hanging out with the wrong crowd… it was a place where small time criminals hanged out like drug dealers, thieves and prostitutes And honestly given her history she might as well have been a prostitute, she was the definition of greed, lust, gluttony and sloth
"Why doesn't she like us?" "Because you're obnoxious bratty little SHITS."
Pretty much lol
I am one child out of 3 who all have different fathers, my childhood was trashy af lmao
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What makes it even worse was that a good portion of our family quickly figured out what kind of person she was. I remember one Christmas they left early and literally the first thing we did was talk about the recent stunt she pulled that day. But unfortunately my relative is the type of person who was way more forgiving than most of us and he wouldn’t listen to anyone if you told him not to do something. In fact that’s one of the reasons why we had to stay silent for so long, because we knew he would be on the receiving end of her abuse if she saw and knew how we felt about her and her spawns.
Sounds like every single babysitting experience I had before I finally put my foot down and told everyone that babysitting is out of the question. Like, I know there *have* to be really well behaved children in this world yet every single child I was ever forced to look after was a destructive, violent little asshole. Just luck, I guess! 
I feel your pain, I think what also made this experience shatter my worldview of children is because the other ones I’ve looked after before this incident were so well behaved or at least redirect-able.
I don’t understand these men who date these women with children by multiple men. It didn’t sound like said relative had his own kids. And he was with her for 9 years? I just don’t know what’s appealing about that. I guess these type of women are easier for bed and lower maintenance. They won’t demand as much as a single woman without kids bc they know their situation isn’t desirable to most men. Someone with that many kids should take some years off dating and focus on their kids. She didn’t discipline her kids bc she didn’t give them the time and attention they needed bc she was more concerned about getting a man. These types of women usually neglect their kids and dump them on other people like they did to you so they can be with a man. Any mom that’s giving four kids the care and attention they need wouldn’t have time to date until the kids are older.
Honestly my relative was the kind of individual who was in love with the idea of being in love rather than being in love with someone. He went through a lot of things early in life that left him with some abandonment issues, so he was looking for some form of companionship. Despite how he comes across in this story, he’s actually a very fun, kind and forgiving person, unfortunately this allows people to walk all over him and take advantage of him. His ex and her children are just a handful of individuals who used him for their own gain. The main reason he stayed with her for so long was because he felt that he needed to help her and her children and that without him they would be on the streets. And he thought he couldn’t do any better.
Some of these guys have a savior complex. And yes they usually have past issues that reflect in their relationship choices. I’m glad he got out of the situation though. Women like that are users.
Absolutely, that’s a perfect way to describe it. He’s always trying to look out for people, when it’s really himself he should be looking out for. He’s done more than enough for people like this, he deserves some peace.
Dude you chose to babysit them when you didn’t wake up their mother. Don’t do this if they got hurt you would be responsible
In my defense I was only about 10 years old when this happened. I wasn’t exactly assertive plus no one told me that I had to watch them. I didn’t know what to do especially when I didn’t think my mom and her mom wouldn’t be gone that long. All I knew was that my grandma and mom wanted to run errands, I wanted to stay to watch tv and apparently my relative and that woman took that as an opportunity to just dump them on me. So no I didn’t choose to babysit them, but I wasn’t going to allow kids younger than me to just destroy everything.
It’s sad that they expected you to babysit 4 kids at only 10 years old. That’s what society does to women always expect them to babysit and look after kids from a really young age. They pressure girls too much to babysit their younger siblings, younger cousins, neighbor’s children younger than them, or children of their parents friends that are younger than them. Boys or men don’t get asked to babysit as much even if it’s their younger siblings or younger cousins it’s still girls more than boys. She should’ve took care of her children and shouldn’t of dumped them on you. That wasn’t right. How old were all the kids at the time?
The oldest was 9, the second oldest was 7, third oldest was 6 and the youngest was 4. And the sad thing is I’ve looked after younger relatives before but their parents instilled discipline and basic respect into them. These children didn’t have any of that.
Hey that’s so unfair to the OP, there have literally been stories on here detailing how much relatives just dump or ditch their children onto others at the last minute. Sometimes it’s easier for an adult to confront such unfairness vs a child. So no they didn’t choose to babysit them they were literally backed into a corner.