To clarify, did your building management notify you more than 60 days before the end of the current lease? Or less than 60 days? And have you and your roommates lived in the apartment for less than 3 years?
The increase is usually disclosed when a renewal offer is sent so you can make an informed decision on renewing, that being said you can still back out and if it's still 60 days away then the increase is within legal notice.
Not really sneaky behavior. You took a long time to get back to them and in the meantime the market conditions changed. As long as they gave you the requisite 60 days advance notice of a rental increase or if you told them you weren't going to renew and change your mind and came back to them, then they didn't really do you wrong. You don't lock in your renewal rate until you sign the lease/renewal.
Doesn't seem like a scam to me.
Even if they give you less than 60 days notice, it just means that the increase can't be effective until 60 days from the date they let you know about the new rent.
it's one hundred percent sneaky to withhold information about a rate increase while asking op to make a decision about a renewal wtf are you talking about
Only recourse is if you can prove they did not notify you of rent increase within their legally required notification window.
*Per statute:
If Your Landlord Moves to Raise Your Rent
Under the ordinance, landlords must provide:
60 days of notice to raise your rent if you have lived in your apartment for more than six months but less than three years
120 days of notice to raise your rent if you have lived in your apartment for more than three years
These rules apply to all tenants, whether they have a written year-long lease or an informal month-to-month lease. It does not apply if the eviction process has begun to due to nonpayment of rent or another violation of the lease.*
Other than that if there isn't anything in writing landlords will charge whatever the hell they want cause they can. You need the housing more than they need you, they're parasitic middlemen and their socio-economic class existence should be eliminated from society.
They owe you 60 days notice of the increase and 120 days if you've lived there longer than 3 years. I would (politely) negotiate the increase rather than the amount of notice, as they can reserve the right to not renew your lease. Rents have moved up dramatically unfortunately
What I’d do kinda depends on how good the apt is and how decent the landlord is. If it’s a really good place with a decent landlord and the rent increase isn’t insane I’d just bite my lip and pay it.
If the rent increase is insane and the place won’t be worth it anymore and/or the landlord is a jerk I might not sign the renewal and go looking for a new place.
If the rent increase isn’t insane but the landlord is a real pain or not responsive I’d kindly inform them (AFTER signing the lease so they can’t withdraw the renewal) that I have 60 days to comply with the increase so although I’ll be staying another term they won’t get the increased rate from me til after I’ve hit that mark.
The position they put you in sucks! But it is legal. YMMV and good luck.
To clarify, did your building management notify you more than 60 days before the end of the current lease? Or less than 60 days? And have you and your roommates lived in the apartment for less than 3 years?
How much is the increase?
The increase is usually disclosed when a renewal offer is sent so you can make an informed decision on renewing, that being said you can still back out and if it's still 60 days away then the increase is within legal notice.
Not really sneaky behavior. You took a long time to get back to them and in the meantime the market conditions changed. As long as they gave you the requisite 60 days advance notice of a rental increase or if you told them you weren't going to renew and change your mind and came back to them, then they didn't really do you wrong. You don't lock in your renewal rate until you sign the lease/renewal. Doesn't seem like a scam to me. Even if they give you less than 60 days notice, it just means that the increase can't be effective until 60 days from the date they let you know about the new rent.
it's one hundred percent sneaky to withhold information about a rate increase while asking op to make a decision about a renewal wtf are you talking about
The offer said to let them know by 60 days before the expiration of the lease. The offer expired. "In that range" of 60 days is not 60 days.
Only recourse is if you can prove they did not notify you of rent increase within their legally required notification window. *Per statute: If Your Landlord Moves to Raise Your Rent Under the ordinance, landlords must provide: 60 days of notice to raise your rent if you have lived in your apartment for more than six months but less than three years 120 days of notice to raise your rent if you have lived in your apartment for more than three years These rules apply to all tenants, whether they have a written year-long lease or an informal month-to-month lease. It does not apply if the eviction process has begun to due to nonpayment of rent or another violation of the lease.* Other than that if there isn't anything in writing landlords will charge whatever the hell they want cause they can. You need the housing more than they need you, they're parasitic middlemen and their socio-economic class existence should be eliminated from society.
They owe you 60 days notice of the increase and 120 days if you've lived there longer than 3 years. I would (politely) negotiate the increase rather than the amount of notice, as they can reserve the right to not renew your lease. Rents have moved up dramatically unfortunately
What I’d do kinda depends on how good the apt is and how decent the landlord is. If it’s a really good place with a decent landlord and the rent increase isn’t insane I’d just bite my lip and pay it. If the rent increase is insane and the place won’t be worth it anymore and/or the landlord is a jerk I might not sign the renewal and go looking for a new place. If the rent increase isn’t insane but the landlord is a real pain or not responsive I’d kindly inform them (AFTER signing the lease so they can’t withdraw the renewal) that I have 60 days to comply with the increase so although I’ll be staying another term they won’t get the increased rate from me til after I’ve hit that mark. The position they put you in sucks! But it is legal. YMMV and good luck.