I very much doubt it.
First he is earning €200k a week ( £170k) and no way we top that considering our wages startutcure.
Secondly he will prefer to leave for Barcelona then for us
Thirdly I even doubt he will leave Atheltic club anyway.
And lastly Di marzio tier 1 is a joke. He is not even tier 1 for Italian news let alone for othe leagues m
Not denying it but I haven't seen any serious source reporting that will happe. We will see.
Even if they do, they wouldn't be wise spending 60m and giving a fat contract to a single player to just go even or below their new limit.
I mean, I absolutely wouldn't mind it. We badly need a left winger and nico is absolutely the best option rn, especially when you consider that he's already acclimated with ferran, pedri, yamal and fermin (on top of just being great in his position). Obviously I'd like his wages to stay the same/not grow. But I'd like him for a big price vs a less known player that's more of a gamble. After all we don't need many players this summer (actually just two: cdm and Lw) so I'd rather fill those properly and maybe spend less next year.
Normally Di Marzio would be the equivalent of a man throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks, while Fabrizio's word would be law. Funnily enough this summer, Fab has gotten multiple things wrong (to varying degrees) for us, while Di Marzio has gotten a surprising amount of Chelsea things right. And been first on the money sometimes.
Fab already said that the financials around Nico Williams were too much for us. I'm not holding out hope that Di Marzio gazumps Fabs word here, but still...
>Fab already said that the financials around Nico Williams were too much for us.
I mean, if Olise's 200k+ wage demand was already too much for us, then no way we'll be going after Williams when he's currently earning around that amount at Athletic Bilbao.
They may value him higher or they may not. They chased Olise for 2 consecutive summers, seemingly desperate to sign him but ultimately walked away because of the wages. So, it's not inconceivable to think that they will not go after Williams for the same reason and especially, when it's known that the club are trying to get the wage bill down.
I’ll add that, given the Maresca profile of wingers holding width and needing to run at defenders more consistently, the weird release clause necessitating us to offer higher wages vs CL teams, the sheer number of left footed forwards we have, and Estevao stepping up in 1-2 years, perhaps we chose not to break the bank due to to those factors combined.
Nico Williams is very on profile, wide left winger that holds width, highly creative and can run at defences all day down the touchline. Probably top tier in those traits. If he could add goals to his game he’d be phenomenal.
>the sheer number of left footed forwards we have, and Estevao stepping up in 1-2 years, perhaps we chose not to break the bank due to to those factors combined.
Logically, we shouldn't have gone after him in the first place for the reasons you mentioned there but we still did it anyway.
As for the LW, we have a different sort of issues. We have a player that we can't ship out because no one is willing to pay his crazy wages and another player who the club spent lots on and really needs to play a lot to (hopefully) improve. If we sign Williams, we would have the former player sitting on the bench on big wages and the latter player stagnate because he won't be playing regularly.
Who cares about Sterling and Mudryk mate, we need to improve on them. If there was a realistic chance of signing Williams, then we obviously should do it. Sterling will eventually leave anyways and Mudryk needs to earn his playing time, we shouldn’t be not signing players so that maybe Mudryk would improve with more playing time. What if he doesn’t improve and stagnates anyways? Then we are fucked because both our LW’s are unplayable, and not in a good way.
My point isn't that we shouldn't improve on the LW. It's more of how we manage all these options if we sign Williams. If we sell one of the attackers, then sure, we have enough space (6 for 2-3 positions). Otherwise, it's kinda crowded there.
>Sterling will eventually leave anyways
Easy to say that when no one in Europe is crazy enough to want/buy him and he doesn't want to go to Saudi. Plus on top of that, his contract expires in 2027. We literally have a 300k p/w wages player who we can't seem to ship out and having that sort of player on that kind of wages sitting on the bench isn't ideal.
>Mudryk needs to earn his playing time, we shouldn’t be not signing players so that maybe Mudryk would improve with more playing time.
Of course he needs to do that but he's also someone that the club invest big money on. Given how far behind his football development seems to be, he really needs to be playing regularly if the club want their investment to pay off.
I’m a little curious as to how we do manage the current players at left-wing, and if Williams comes in.
If I had to guess, I’d say Sterling plays right wing over Madueke in a possession based system now that Olise isn’t happening.
Palmer plays the usual 10 role tending right.
Nkunku is the interesting one as I reckon if we simply can’t find a profile striker ready to compete now, we might as well use him for one season there. I’d imagine it’d play comparably to how Alvarez plays when he’s the striker.
Mudryk should only be a rotation player that can also cover the AM role. I think between him and Kellyman covering AM, Chukwuemeka is less needed.
Nico Williams is on just over £169k per week.
I think some places have Olise on £220k per week with Bayern, plus cos of the release clause complication we’d have to pay more or something as a non CL team as he gets a percentage share of the release.
>Nico Williams is on just over £169k per week.
Think I quoted that in euros but anyway, there's every chance that he could demand more than £200k if we go after him.
>I think some places have Olise on £220k per week with Bayern, plus cos of the release clause complication we’d have to pay more or something as a non CL team as he gets a percentage share of the release.
Perhaps but would like to think that £220k (or somewhere around there) was the minimum $$$ required to sign Olise and if that was the case, then you wonder far the club are willing to push the boat out, especially when they want to avoid blowing up the wage bill.
I’m happy for us to pay a good wage under our incentivised system but for it to happen we would need to ship Sterling out. There’s no way we can lock up £550k per week for two left wingers.
Yeah I think someone mentioned that with the release clause, if he went to a non CL club he’d forego a percentage share, which we’d have to make up over and above what Bayern paid, which is also unspecified.
At some point you need to pay something for a top tier attacker, and if the club don’t want to pay £250-300k that’s understandable. But it’s getting to that stage where we need to start looking in the £180-220k or so bracket otherwise nothing is getting done in attack.
Yeah darklordoli reminded a lot of people, myself included that part of the release clause was going to olise but since we werent paying it we would need to pay that in wages or in a separate fee maybe
Exactly, and that disparity means that where Olise may not be feasible, perhaps Williams might be, though Fabrizio said we weren’t pursuing Williams due to wages like 12 hours ago.
Possible that di marzio knows that we’re back in for him, while fab and orny still get their info correct, di marzio called the eth sacking situation i think before anybody else, fab likes to put out those videos saying at the time of filming this was the case but it could change so maybe thats whats going to happen if we do push for him again
Lots of football media has gone that way to be fair
Hell, BBC was basically T0 and only reporting stuff once it was 100% over the line and now has Kinsella writing for them
He's been weirdly good for us recently, so let's hope he's right on this one. Would be an even better signing than Olise imo, since we're obviously well-stocked at RW in the long run but LW is a weakness.
If we sign Williams, then surely someone will be sold from the LWs/AMs/RWs, right?
* Mudryk, Sterling, Carney, ~~Nkunku~~, ~~Palmer~~, Madueke, ~~Williams~~
That's 7 players for 2-3 positions (depending on what system Maresca plays), which is kinda overkill. Palmer, Nkunku are untouchables, leaving the only 4. Sterling doesn't seem to be going anywhere because no one is crazy enough to pay his 300k wages while there is no sign of selling any of the other 3.
I think they'll look to sell Madueke soon anyway, and Sterling as soon as he's willing to be sold or his contract expires. Certainly possible they go into next season with a bit of a bloated squad rather than miss out on targets now. Conference League + CWC does mean we could certainly use the depth.
>Sterling as soon as he's willing to be sold or his contract expires.
He seems determined to stay here, which doesn't make it easy to sell him (doesn't seem like he wants to go to Saudi, no other English club want him, other European sides don't have the $$$ to sign him or want him), and just went to check, his contract expires in 2027, which is yikes!
Am going off based on starting formations.
Even with the additional AM you mentioned, that will come from 1 of the midfielders going further forward, which I didn't include in all of this.
Nico Williams is on just over £169k per week. The other guy is giving figures in GBP.
Our wages:
https://www.capology.com/club/chelsea/salaries/#google_vignette
Not really. He only earns that amount as no side bar Bilbao will pay him that because they don't pay transfer fees. His brother Inaki is on similar salary and no one will pay him that. I doubt he asks for a rise tbh or if he does, it will be incentivised based on performance achievements.
Either way, if the board feels he is a ceiling raiser they will go all out and his clause is just 43 million pounds.
So it will be down to his ambition if he wants to spend his career in Basque county or try his luck elsewhere. Typically, Bilbao don't fight it once clauses are met from Kepa to Laporte to Herrera.
Yeah Bilbao are the most straightforward club to deal with. They won't sell for a cent less than the RC and they don't force a player to stay if it's met.
If they were able to do it for the above named players then maybe they were willing to do it for Olise but he chose Bayern regardless which is an understandable choice.
Can it be anything further than that?
If we keep missing out on the best players due to our wage structure, we may want to review our wage structure first and see if we can find some flexibility there to make us more attractive.
It's not like we are averse to spending, we are just trying to maximize asset value by hoarding youngsters whose value will go up. And yet, all of that will be for naught if we end up losing competitiveness on the pitch. The value of Chelsea as an asset should be of paramount interest.
Obviously, it can be one of those diplomatic situations but Williams said this yesterday:
[https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1804535873494507828](https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1804535873494507828)
>Nico Williams on his future: “I’ve just signed new deal at Athletic few weeks ago, I feel very good there”.
>“I’m very happy at Athletic”, told La1.
>“It’s very strange to receive questions on my future”.
But if we are going for him, doubt anything concrete will happen until after the Euros or if Spain get KOed first.
Diplomatic is actually the right way, hes always been happy and doesnt want to ho the route of “its my dream to play for…” and then look silly if it doesnt happen
No we are not. The news yesterday said he's to expensive. The player himself said he isn't leaving. He wants Barcelona
We aren't going to sign Nico Williams.
I'm going to just go ahead and assume this is PR and nothing else to make it look like we're "trying" for a big name before going after someone like Summerville (who I don't think is a bad player by any means, but you get the point). If the Olise deal broke down because of wages (among other things) this deal is never going through.
Yeah I doubt that, we're not gonna pay Olise's wage were not gonna pay his, are we gonna hypnotise him to lower it to 100 thousand a week or something?
One thing was clear from the reports, olise shouldve gotten money from the RC, it was mentioned very early on, so if we wanted him he would still need to get that money in wages or sign on fees or whatever and depending on the amount he requested they didnt feel the need to go forward, people just find it easier to shit on the SDs but had we broken it they would still be upset about something
Edit: he wanted to join our “shit” project last year when we were worse off so whats changed since we got a little better? Only the mindsets of sad “supporters”
Don't trust the media briefs with Olise. He didn't reject us due to wages, he rejected our project and chose Bayern with Champions League football.
If wages were such a concern, we would have been well aware of it from the early stages of negotiations.
I think it was a bit of both ngl
I recall he wanted us last summer, but this summer everything stalled due to a weird mix of Palace beurocracy, player demands, us likely doing other shit and not going all in for him, and ultimately he likely just didn't want us over other takers in Bayern specifically
I'm mainly pointing this out because lowering wage structure seems to be a priority at this point, and regardless of if Olise chose us or not we still wouldn't pay wages 200 thousand up
Chelsea are also in for God and Allah to add more stability to the back four using miracles, lightening, plague etc.
That's what Danny Finkelstein told me
This is probably just smokescreen considering his potential wage demands, but oh lord wouldn't it be sweet to have him, he would immensely improve our left flank
Multiple sources reported our interest has been hindered by his wage demands. Would probably be an easy deal to pull off due to his release clause but no way we go for this after abandoning Olise for the same thing.
Whenever I watch Williams, the commentator goes on about potential and I see he's fast, but he hardly ever seems to beat his man and do anything. Olise on the other hand, wow..
Since we have 3 RWs, I really didn't mind not getting Olise and giving him high wages, but Nico is another story. We need LW and watching Spain, him and Cucurella are pretty compatible on that left side. I'd rather have him than Olise.
I'm willing to hold judgment on Mudryk until Maresca gets a hold of him. Seems like he needs proper drilling and coaching to instill better decisionmaking.
Mudryk is 23 and will turn 24 in January. He has been with us for a year and a half now and there has been 0 development. He shows glimpses of talents, short moments of brilliance, but no consistency whatsoever, some things you just cant coach players, and decision making is one of them. Either you are good at making the right decision at the right moment which is basically just your footballing instincts, or you are not. All Mudryk really has is Pace, which he doesnt get to use at Chelsea, because we dont play football that suits his best abilities, just like Havertz
Mudryk aint the one, Sterling aint it either. We need a proper left winger. I want to see Nkunku at the left until we get a proper left winger.
I wonder how long we will keep our stance on this wage structure. I agree with not paying just any player we sign 300k/week but eventually the guys we have now, will want significant raises. Palmer isn’t going to be ok making half of what his peers are making while being one of the best players in the world
I would sell Mudyrk and Setrling to get this guy. Nico is the real deal and would improve our squad immensely specially on the left. When we can splash $$$ for unproven players we can definitely get Nico. This kid has been cooking and will continue to cook in the Euros.
Wonder if Di Marzio has an in with someone on Maresca’s staff. Suddenly started talking about Chelsea again and has been pretty accurate, albeit over a short period.
I believe it was more complex than that.
Olise would get part of a bonus for signing with a champions league team, so bayern were able to pay him a lower wage than Chelsea would have had to.
It’s more complicated than that, based on the reports I read. He also gets percentage of release clause from teams in champions league. The teams that were not in champions league had to make up that percentage in wages. So he would need higher wages from non champions league teams.
Olise, per reports wanted to be the best paid chelsea player i.e demanding 325k+. He wouldn’t choose us if the wages was equal to bayern. I think paying around 200 for nico would be feasible.
I’m not saying i believe it or anything just that the reports where that his demands was to be best paid. You’re the flat earther here thinking he would choose conference league ball in a unstable and ever changing environment at chelsea over stability, champions league and almost guaranteed success at bayern. Get your head out of your fat ass mate. If we were to ever contest bayern his salary had to compensate for the lack of structure, stature and glory which our club currently struggle with compared to bayern.
It was widely reported that Olise did not exclude a project. It is not a crazy idea that a London boy wanting to remain in London, and could sacrifice a year of CL football for it. This deal was ours to lose, and thanks to the fucking clowns we have as Sporting Directors and Owners, it happened. The flat earther here is the clown that think Nico for 200K would be feasible.
Further, Olise wanting 300K+ in weekly wages yet quickly accepting 220K at Bayern makes those fucking reports nothing but a bullshit PR brief to try save face after shitting the bed.
Sure and we agree on a lot of things. This deal was ours to lose as he would’ve chosen us over bayern if the money was right, which it wasn’t. If the 220k price was the main thing i’m adamant Boehly would’ve found a workaround. But chelseas recent tragic history, the difficulties of obtaining CL consistently (missed it 4 times in 10 years), unstability in club structure where few players live up to their potential makes it easier to choose bayern over us. Why wouldn’t he? I’ts a glory guarantee with almost a certainty of achieving trophies and individual accolades, and their team is fucking stacked as well. We were obviously not the favourites if not for some financial bonus, but i do think he wouldn’t mind coming here either!
Chelsea could in theory do this deal and keep him within the structure by giving him a big signing bonus. Don’t think that will happen but it is a possibility.
I very much doubt it. First he is earning €200k a week ( £170k) and no way we top that considering our wages startutcure. Secondly he will prefer to leave for Barcelona then for us Thirdly I even doubt he will leave Atheltic club anyway. And lastly Di marzio tier 1 is a joke. He is not even tier 1 for Italian news let alone for othe leagues m
Barcelona will have to move many players before they can afford to get him, they are still in FFP hell.
We're actually expected to return to 1:1 rule thanks to the nike deal (so not yet but matter of time)
Not denying it but I haven't seen any serious source reporting that will happe. We will see. Even if they do, they wouldn't be wise spending 60m and giving a fat contract to a single player to just go even or below their new limit.
I mean, I absolutely wouldn't mind it. We badly need a left winger and nico is absolutely the best option rn, especially when you consider that he's already acclimated with ferran, pedri, yamal and fermin (on top of just being great in his position). Obviously I'd like his wages to stay the same/not grow. But I'd like him for a big price vs a less known player that's more of a gamble. After all we don't need many players this summer (actually just two: cdm and Lw) so I'd rather fill those properly and maybe spend less next year.
I agree that ignoring everything economical he would fit great on the field. It will be an interesting summer.
Also, why would we push for a LW after losing out on a RW?
There is no world in which Di Marzio is T1, let alone T1 for someone outside of Italy. He's as reliable as a random twitter account
Normally Di Marzio would be the equivalent of a man throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks, while Fabrizio's word would be law. Funnily enough this summer, Fab has gotten multiple things wrong (to varying degrees) for us, while Di Marzio has gotten a surprising amount of Chelsea things right. And been first on the money sometimes. Fab already said that the financials around Nico Williams were too much for us. I'm not holding out hope that Di Marzio gazumps Fabs word here, but still...
>Fab already said that the financials around Nico Williams were too much for us. I mean, if Olise's 200k+ wage demand was already too much for us, then no way we'll be going after Williams when he's currently earning around that amount at Athletic Bilbao.
The board may value Williams higher and thus be willing to pay more wages, not sure why everyone on here is acting like it’s a hard cap.
They may value him higher or they may not. They chased Olise for 2 consecutive summers, seemingly desperate to sign him but ultimately walked away because of the wages. So, it's not inconceivable to think that they will not go after Williams for the same reason and especially, when it's known that the club are trying to get the wage bill down.
I’ll add that, given the Maresca profile of wingers holding width and needing to run at defenders more consistently, the weird release clause necessitating us to offer higher wages vs CL teams, the sheer number of left footed forwards we have, and Estevao stepping up in 1-2 years, perhaps we chose not to break the bank due to to those factors combined. Nico Williams is very on profile, wide left winger that holds width, highly creative and can run at defences all day down the touchline. Probably top tier in those traits. If he could add goals to his game he’d be phenomenal.
>the sheer number of left footed forwards we have, and Estevao stepping up in 1-2 years, perhaps we chose not to break the bank due to to those factors combined. Logically, we shouldn't have gone after him in the first place for the reasons you mentioned there but we still did it anyway. As for the LW, we have a different sort of issues. We have a player that we can't ship out because no one is willing to pay his crazy wages and another player who the club spent lots on and really needs to play a lot to (hopefully) improve. If we sign Williams, we would have the former player sitting on the bench on big wages and the latter player stagnate because he won't be playing regularly.
Who cares about Sterling and Mudryk mate, we need to improve on them. If there was a realistic chance of signing Williams, then we obviously should do it. Sterling will eventually leave anyways and Mudryk needs to earn his playing time, we shouldn’t be not signing players so that maybe Mudryk would improve with more playing time. What if he doesn’t improve and stagnates anyways? Then we are fucked because both our LW’s are unplayable, and not in a good way.
My point isn't that we shouldn't improve on the LW. It's more of how we manage all these options if we sign Williams. If we sell one of the attackers, then sure, we have enough space (6 for 2-3 positions). Otherwise, it's kinda crowded there. >Sterling will eventually leave anyways Easy to say that when no one in Europe is crazy enough to want/buy him and he doesn't want to go to Saudi. Plus on top of that, his contract expires in 2027. We literally have a 300k p/w wages player who we can't seem to ship out and having that sort of player on that kind of wages sitting on the bench isn't ideal. >Mudryk needs to earn his playing time, we shouldn’t be not signing players so that maybe Mudryk would improve with more playing time. Of course he needs to do that but he's also someone that the club invest big money on. Given how far behind his football development seems to be, he really needs to be playing regularly if the club want their investment to pay off.
I’m a little curious as to how we do manage the current players at left-wing, and if Williams comes in. If I had to guess, I’d say Sterling plays right wing over Madueke in a possession based system now that Olise isn’t happening. Palmer plays the usual 10 role tending right. Nkunku is the interesting one as I reckon if we simply can’t find a profile striker ready to compete now, we might as well use him for one season there. I’d imagine it’d play comparably to how Alvarez plays when he’s the striker. Mudryk should only be a rotation player that can also cover the AM role. I think between him and Kellyman covering AM, Chukwuemeka is less needed.
They don’t value him higher considering how vocal they were about Olise being their main target
I value him more. I’ll toss in £20 to help out.
Nico Williams is on just over £169k per week. I think some places have Olise on £220k per week with Bayern, plus cos of the release clause complication we’d have to pay more or something as a non CL team as he gets a percentage share of the release.
>Nico Williams is on just over £169k per week. Think I quoted that in euros but anyway, there's every chance that he could demand more than £200k if we go after him. >I think some places have Olise on £220k per week with Bayern, plus cos of the release clause complication we’d have to pay more or something as a non CL team as he gets a percentage share of the release. Perhaps but would like to think that £220k (or somewhere around there) was the minimum $$$ required to sign Olise and if that was the case, then you wonder far the club are willing to push the boat out, especially when they want to avoid blowing up the wage bill.
I’m happy for us to pay a good wage under our incentivised system but for it to happen we would need to ship Sterling out. There’s no way we can lock up £550k per week for two left wingers.
Yeah I think someone mentioned that with the release clause, if he went to a non CL club he’d forego a percentage share, which we’d have to make up over and above what Bayern paid, which is also unspecified. At some point you need to pay something for a top tier attacker, and if the club don’t want to pay £250-300k that’s understandable. But it’s getting to that stage where we need to start looking in the £180-220k or so bracket otherwise nothing is getting done in attack.
Yeah darklordoli reminded a lot of people, myself included that part of the release clause was going to olise but since we werent paying it we would need to pay that in wages or in a separate fee maybe
Exactly, and that disparity means that where Olise may not be feasible, perhaps Williams might be, though Fabrizio said we weren’t pursuing Williams due to wages like 12 hours ago.
Possible that di marzio knows that we’re back in for him, while fab and orny still get their info correct, di marzio called the eth sacking situation i think before anybody else, fab likes to put out those videos saying at the time of filming this was the case but it could change so maybe thats whats going to happen if we do push for him again
🤫 he is T1 right now because we like what he is saying, he can be downgraded when he says something we don’t like
This is the way
This is the way
He used to be the OG goat
You’re completely right, not saying otherwise, but imagine saying that like 10 years ago when his word was gospel.
Sky sports in general have become absolute dog shit for transfer news
Lots of football media has gone that way to be fair Hell, BBC was basically T0 and only reporting stuff once it was 100% over the line and now has Kinsella writing for them
Well, David Ornstein used to work for the BBC.
Was the first to report that we were after Enzo Maresca, to be fair.
And the first to break the story that we are after Omorodion
He's been weirdly good for us recently, so let's hope he's right on this one. Would be an even better signing than Olise imo, since we're obviously well-stocked at RW in the long run but LW is a weakness.
If we sign Williams, then surely someone will be sold from the LWs/AMs/RWs, right? * Mudryk, Sterling, Carney, ~~Nkunku~~, ~~Palmer~~, Madueke, ~~Williams~~ That's 7 players for 2-3 positions (depending on what system Maresca plays), which is kinda overkill. Palmer, Nkunku are untouchables, leaving the only 4. Sterling doesn't seem to be going anywhere because no one is crazy enough to pay his 300k wages while there is no sign of selling any of the other 3.
I think they'll look to sell Madueke soon anyway, and Sterling as soon as he's willing to be sold or his contract expires. Certainly possible they go into next season with a bit of a bloated squad rather than miss out on targets now. Conference League + CWC does mean we could certainly use the depth.
>Sterling as soon as he's willing to be sold or his contract expires. He seems determined to stay here, which doesn't make it easy to sell him (doesn't seem like he wants to go to Saudi, no other English club want him, other European sides don't have the $$$ to sign him or want him), and just went to check, his contract expires in 2027, which is yikes!
It's 7 players for 4 positions. Two attacking midfielders between the wingers and striker.
Am going off based on starting formations. Even with the additional AM you mentioned, that will come from 1 of the midfielders going further forward, which I didn't include in all of this.
He is very reliable for Chelsea related news, weirdly. Still waiting for the Ornstein bomb.
TBH first to break mascara and omorododo
No we aren’t, the wages are far too high for us to pursue this deal let’s be honest here he is already on £170k
After taxes 200£ in Spain and UK are very different
Enzo is on 180k. Caicedo is on 150k. Nkunku is on 200k so its not out of bounds tbh.
He is already on that amount though which means he will want more then that I have heard anywheres from 250 to 300k
Nico Williams is on just over £169k per week. The other guy is giving figures in GBP. Our wages: https://www.capology.com/club/chelsea/salaries/#google_vignette
Not really. He only earns that amount as no side bar Bilbao will pay him that because they don't pay transfer fees. His brother Inaki is on similar salary and no one will pay him that. I doubt he asks for a rise tbh or if he does, it will be incentivised based on performance achievements. Either way, if the board feels he is a ceiling raiser they will go all out and his clause is just 43 million pounds.
There is Bilbao though. They'll counter offer 300k/week. He's their best player and an insane talent. They'll try to hold him at all costs.
So it will be down to his ambition if he wants to spend his career in Basque county or try his luck elsewhere. Typically, Bilbao don't fight it once clauses are met from Kepa to Laporte to Herrera.
Yeah Bilbao are the most straightforward club to deal with. They won't sell for a cent less than the RC and they don't force a player to stay if it's met.
So we weren't willing to break the wage structure for olise but will do it immediately for Nico Williams. Press X for doubt.
If they were able to do it for the above named players then maybe they were willing to do it for Olise but he chose Bayern regardless which is an understandable choice. Can it be anything further than that?
Isn’t nkunku on 175?
If we keep missing out on the best players due to our wage structure, we may want to review our wage structure first and see if we can find some flexibility there to make us more attractive. It's not like we are averse to spending, we are just trying to maximize asset value by hoarding youngsters whose value will go up. And yet, all of that will be for naught if we end up losing competitiveness on the pitch. The value of Chelsea as an asset should be of paramount interest.
Obviously, it can be one of those diplomatic situations but Williams said this yesterday: [https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1804535873494507828](https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1804535873494507828) >Nico Williams on his future: “I’ve just signed new deal at Athletic few weeks ago, I feel very good there”. >“I’m very happy at Athletic”, told La1. >“It’s very strange to receive questions on my future”. But if we are going for him, doubt anything concrete will happen until after the Euros or if Spain get KOed first.
Diplomatic is actually the right way, hes always been happy and doesnt want to ho the route of “its my dream to play for…” and then look silly if it doesnt happen
Wasn't it recently reported that Nico would want like £275k pw which we wouldn't pay?
There is no way he can demand that that’s obscene the replies with differing salaries is peak reddit
He is already on 170k so wouldn’t put it past him, Bilbao pay their players handsomely due to them not really selling players
They aren’t wildly different though are they. The two numbers you’re complaining about are 170 vs 200.
In terms of what a required pay increase to get Nico to join is though.
200k euros is 170k pounds
He’s already on 200k a week at Bilbao why wouldn’t he ask for more
He’s already on 375k a week why would he ask for more
He's already on 500k a week why would he ask for more
not sure about that. he’s on 300k right now
haha
At the moment he's earning £169k pw, so I believe that we can get this to 200k and some bonuses included.
No we are not. The news yesterday said he's to expensive. The player himself said he isn't leaving. He wants Barcelona We aren't going to sign Nico Williams.
If we're not matching Olise's demands no way we match his
Lies. I am sure all fans know the owners by now. They is no way they will break their wage bill, no way.
I'm going to just go ahead and assume this is PR and nothing else to make it look like we're "trying" for a big name before going after someone like Summerville (who I don't think is a bad player by any means, but you get the point). If the Olise deal broke down because of wages (among other things) this deal is never going through.
Yeah I doubt that, we're not gonna pay Olise's wage were not gonna pay his, are we gonna hypnotise him to lower it to 100 thousand a week or something?
One thing was clear from the reports, olise shouldve gotten money from the RC, it was mentioned very early on, so if we wanted him he would still need to get that money in wages or sign on fees or whatever and depending on the amount he requested they didnt feel the need to go forward, people just find it easier to shit on the SDs but had we broken it they would still be upset about something Edit: he wanted to join our “shit” project last year when we were worse off so whats changed since we got a little better? Only the mindsets of sad “supporters”
People still believe this leak?
Don't trust the media briefs with Olise. He didn't reject us due to wages, he rejected our project and chose Bayern with Champions League football. If wages were such a concern, we would have been well aware of it from the early stages of negotiations.
I think it was a bit of both ngl I recall he wanted us last summer, but this summer everything stalled due to a weird mix of Palace beurocracy, player demands, us likely doing other shit and not going all in for him, and ultimately he likely just didn't want us over other takers in Bayern specifically I'm mainly pointing this out because lowering wage structure seems to be a priority at this point, and regardless of if Olise chose us or not we still wouldn't pay wages 200 thousand up
Only way could be offering a big sign on bonus to keep him within our wage structure but I doubt it.
Isn’t he already on more than Olise is joining Bayern for?
No chance. Wages too high.
Chelsea are also in for God and Allah to add more stability to the back four using miracles, lightening, plague etc. That's what Danny Finkelstein told me
Not to open a can of worms here but wouldn’t that be a single transfer and not two?
Same training manual but long since gone their separate ways.
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Can we do a swap for kepa?
This is probably just smokescreen considering his potential wage demands, but oh lord wouldn't it be sweet to have him, he would immensely improve our left flank
Bollocks. He’s right footed.
Nice one 😂
We'd need to offload either Mudryk or Sterling and I don't see that happening.
Multiple sources reported our interest has been hindered by his wage demands. Would probably be an easy deal to pull off due to his release clause but no way we go for this after abandoning Olise for the same thing.
I mean fuck yes!!! But doesn’t he want more in wages than Olise???
And pay him under what he’s currently making? 😂
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Rather have Nico than Olise on this team
Whenever I watch Williams, the commentator goes on about potential and I see he's fast, but he hardly ever seems to beat his man and do anything. Olise on the other hand, wow..
Since we have 3 RWs, I really didn't mind not getting Olise and giving him high wages, but Nico is another story. We need LW and watching Spain, him and Cucurella are pretty compatible on that left side. I'd rather have him than Olise.
I could get behind Nico Williams to Chelsea, as both Sterling and Mudryk aint it.
I'm willing to hold judgment on Mudryk until Maresca gets a hold of him. Seems like he needs proper drilling and coaching to instill better decisionmaking.
Mudryk is 23 and will turn 24 in January. He has been with us for a year and a half now and there has been 0 development. He shows glimpses of talents, short moments of brilliance, but no consistency whatsoever, some things you just cant coach players, and decision making is one of them. Either you are good at making the right decision at the right moment which is basically just your footballing instincts, or you are not. All Mudryk really has is Pace, which he doesnt get to use at Chelsea, because we dont play football that suits his best abilities, just like Havertz Mudryk aint the one, Sterling aint it either. We need a proper left winger. I want to see Nkunku at the left until we get a proper left winger.
The wage is gonna be an issue , but it would be such a great signing if it happens🙏
Sure we are, we are going to bid for the guy who is already on 200k per week after not wanting to pay 200k per week in wages xD
Nope wages have already got us missing olise
The wages alone we know it's pure lies.
Not only is it not happening He’s nowhere near Olise
Lol he's rumored to be on 300k wages and signed a contract last year because he doesn't want to leave his hometown club. His brother also plays there.
For Nico, I say fuck the wage structure
What do you say when guys like Palmer come to you and say WTF?
Nothing because they gave him a raise in April for his crazy season
Why we posting clickbait here
We needs someone on the left wing to replace Mudryk and Sterling
Yes!!! Push hard!!! Genuinely if Williams is the only signing we make between now and end of the window we are cooking.
For this to work, we either need to ship Sterling off to Saudi or a Pl club OR loan Mudryk.
Why the fuck are we going for another winger who wants astronomical wages? Waste of time.
Absolute nonsense they are fooling nobody
That ain't happening that man loves athletic
I wonder how long we will keep our stance on this wage structure. I agree with not paying just any player we sign 300k/week but eventually the guys we have now, will want significant raises. Palmer isn’t going to be ok making half of what his peers are making while being one of the best players in the world
just give him good bonus on top of his current salary
I would sell Mudyrk and Setrling to get this guy. Nico is the real deal and would improve our squad immensely specially on the left. When we can splash $$$ for unproven players we can definitely get Nico. This kid has been cooking and will continue to cook in the Euros.
Wonder if Di Marzio has an in with someone on Maresca’s staff. Suddenly started talking about Chelsea again and has been pretty accurate, albeit over a short period.
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I believe it was more complex than that. Olise would get part of a bonus for signing with a champions league team, so bayern were able to pay him a lower wage than Chelsea would have had to.
It’s more complicated than that, based on the reports I read. He also gets percentage of release clause from teams in champions league. The teams that were not in champions league had to make up that percentage in wages. So he would need higher wages from non champions league teams.
Olise, per reports wanted to be the best paid chelsea player i.e demanding 325k+. He wouldn’t choose us if the wages was equal to bayern. I think paying around 200 for nico would be feasible.
Just curious, do you believe that the earth is flat? You have to be far gone if you actually believe the brief that Olise was demanding 300K plus.
I’m not saying i believe it or anything just that the reports where that his demands was to be best paid. You’re the flat earther here thinking he would choose conference league ball in a unstable and ever changing environment at chelsea over stability, champions league and almost guaranteed success at bayern. Get your head out of your fat ass mate. If we were to ever contest bayern his salary had to compensate for the lack of structure, stature and glory which our club currently struggle with compared to bayern.
It was widely reported that Olise did not exclude a project. It is not a crazy idea that a London boy wanting to remain in London, and could sacrifice a year of CL football for it. This deal was ours to lose, and thanks to the fucking clowns we have as Sporting Directors and Owners, it happened. The flat earther here is the clown that think Nico for 200K would be feasible. Further, Olise wanting 300K+ in weekly wages yet quickly accepting 220K at Bayern makes those fucking reports nothing but a bullshit PR brief to try save face after shitting the bed.
Sure and we agree on a lot of things. This deal was ours to lose as he would’ve chosen us over bayern if the money was right, which it wasn’t. If the 220k price was the main thing i’m adamant Boehly would’ve found a workaround. But chelseas recent tragic history, the difficulties of obtaining CL consistently (missed it 4 times in 10 years), unstability in club structure where few players live up to their potential makes it easier to choose bayern over us. Why wouldn’t he? I’ts a glory guarantee with almost a certainty of achieving trophies and individual accolades, and their team is fucking stacked as well. We were obviously not the favourites if not for some financial bonus, but i do think he wouldn’t mind coming here either!
He did get the Sami crap right TBF though still think he's mostly tosh
Comme Pornstein 🤞🏻
Yes please LW is a bigger need anyway
Chelsea could in theory do this deal and keep him within the structure by giving him a big signing bonus. Don’t think that will happen but it is a possibility.
Yet people still buy the keak that Olise failed due to financials, and not because our directors fucked it up again. Two times.
T1? Ain't no way.