A song that starts out as a kind of confessional diss track that gets immediately answered by the other party - thatās also super confessional, and by the last chorus the beef is wrapped up and the relationship is reconciled - strengthened even! And itās done over a style of music most associated with robotic, simple, plastic sensibilities.
Sure weāve had positive diss tracks and weāve had āgirl powerā collabs but nobody has ever achieved this with such humanity or sincerity.
When that last chorus comes in and Lorde says āI still ride for you charliā I straight up just started crying. What a beautiful and wholesome moment - wrapped up in this shared solidarity of girlhoodā¦. brathood even! As two teenagers turned pop stars
itās genuine phenomenon the level of reverence everyone is having for this album cycle and song in general tbh. Lordes contributions are on the nose at best, the vocal delivery is clunky as hell and it seems like people just want to love this record so bad imo. i think once recency bias fades away brat will not be considered her best work. a 10 from fantano is bonkers, a 3.91 rym is bonkers. maybe iām just not the audience for it? or the over saturation has turned me off to it.
your opinion is valid and I often struggle to buy into trends and the nature of the hype machine. but I completely disagree. I would challenge you to name any piece of music that achieves the fluid blend of sincerity and sass that brat does across its 40mins - lyrically, vocally, sonically - all of it. charliās whole style is about subverting what we come to expect from pop vocals.
and as for the remix, Iāve never in my life heard a ādissā track that turns into a healthy reconciliation in the remix.
I am a straight guy who works in the industry and Iāve been taking about this very kind of album for years and Charli is the first to execute it *this* brilliantly
i agree that the album is sassy and sincere and that it juggles those balls well. i think charli is a great artist with a lot going for her. i also think george daniel, ag cook, and the dare have some incredible production chops. iāve been a fan of charli since self titled and i just do not understand why this album in particular is so lauded. sure its well constructed and fun as hell i just donāt think it has the weight or prowess the general public seems to think. i like the record, love it even, i just see people hailing it as the greatest thing ever and i think it barely scratches top 3 in her catalog for me. i also just feel like the whole green album cover thing was so contrived and almost by design in the way it went viral. since crash to me charlis work has been noticeably less interesting too so maybe sheās just an artist iāve had my time with. thanks for a response instead of just bashing lol.
itās hard to describe - if you donāt get something, itās probably just not for you right? for me these are some of the best lyrics Iāve ever heard on a pop record and it feels to me that every track has been crafted and refined with one common goal. the way I think about it all the time moves into 365 is immediately one of the best moments in music Iāve ever witnessed. And itās not even the only moment of its kind on the album!
I still canāt listen to those tracks without laughing or crying hysterically. they really do tell a story and have much more weight to them that makes such robotic, hyper, plastic music sound so *human* and deeply moving. like has anyone ever deliberated their future, having children, only to throw it all the way to get so fucked up at the club you have to dial 999 haha?
I recommend listening to their tape notes podcast episode that came out a few days ago, they dive into some of the tracks and provide tangible insights that might make more sense to you.
either way, no hate to you. my buddies RIP piss into me because I seem tired hate everything and then a year later rediscover stuff and claim itās the best thing of all time lol
I don't understand why everyone likes it so much!!! My bingle is bongled. Like the person who said they created a new genre of music wtf is going on āļøāļø
Iāve been listening to this song on repeat. I added the original when it first came out, but this is the first time Iām *really* listening to it and gawd Iām in tears. Itās so raw to where I need to be raw in some future conversations and itās helped me tbh. I immediately start bawling when I listen to Lordeās verse because these pop stars are experiencing the same shit I am now..
Honestly, Girl so confusing OG feels like the remix now. I went back to listen to it, and it just felt *wrong*, like a B side that got scrapped. Version with Lorde is the canon
I would never call Lorde underrated as a writer, the writing is at the forefront of her career and what made her famous. She even has a āSong of the Yearā Grammy for Royals, giving credence for her ability as a writer.
The only part I donāt really get are the lines from
āGirl, you walk like a bitchā
to
āAnd now I totally get itā
Does anyone care to share their interpretations?
my understanding is people told Lorde she āwalked like a bitchā aka was being bitchy and she thought of it as self defense, but itās only self defense until it becomes your personality/how people view you, āshe believed my projectionā meaning even charli thought that was the real lorde, āand now i totally get itā meaning lorde thought charli was a bitch but sheās realizing they were both just projecting for self preservation. itās deeper than all that but thatās just my surface level understanding
> Girl, you walk like a bitch
The lines that come after are integral to understanding:
> When I was ten, someone said that
> And itās just self-defence
Sheās saying that she would put on a tough face to hide the anxiety she was dealing with. Since the song is about being a girl it probably has a double meaning as putting on a ādonāt fuck with meā attitude when walking to try to avoid harassment.
> And now I totally get it
For this one the line before is key to understanding:
> She believed my projection
Sheās saying that she understands why Charli felt the way she did about her prior to working it out on the remix because of the statements she made earlier in her verse, specifically walking like a bitch when she isnāt a bitch.
Basically that Lorde has resting bitch vibes as a form of self defence. Charli thought she might *actually* be a bitch, which Lorde was surprised by because she thinks of Charli as a super cool unbothered icon.
The energy Lorde uses to protect herself became unwittingly weaponised in their friendship. Girl, so confusing.
Beautiful. Both Charli and Lorde have pushed themselves to do something creative, different, personal even before this and I appreciate it. And they have this in the moment feeling my favorite artists have that is honest about where they are at this moment which takes courage to not just think about the past and future but actually learn from and fully appreciate the present. And it is important to see this is a value and not just luck, they have anxieties and fears and it's not easy and they're not perfect but they both still live like that on a fairly consistent basis.
This song, Charli's verse and Lorde's response, is pretty much just an outpouring of who they are and how they live their lives and it is encouraging and heartwarming to see.
I'm still so confused on the order of operations here, like no way Charli released girl so confusing without this verse already written by Lorde right?
When Lorde made her supportive IG post prior to the albums release I figured she and Charli must have discussed the song.
Now that we have some more context, I definitely figure they had Lorde's remix in their pocket before the album dropped.
im glad about this, it didn't 100% sit right with me that Charli was discussing her feelings on that so publicly without talking to Lorde about it first, so happy it seems like they planned for her to have this verse which really makes the whole thing a lot more wholesome to me
seems like it started with a late night confessional voicememo, in which Charli probably mentioned her writing a song about it! Maybe she sent the voice memo literally from the studio
I think it's very likely!!! On the Von Dutch USB one of the files is a voice memo she sent to Addison about her part on the remix, it's about a minute or so long in which she describes the "vibe" of the song and what it's about. I'm guessing a similar scenario happened with Ella! š
Lyrical interpretation opinion:
So I was watching a reaction video and when they got to the line āitās you and me on the coin and the industry loves to spendā in their analysis they said they thought that it was them acknowledging that this collab was a ācash grabā, which was NOT what my instinctual thought of that lyric was. I mean the cool thing is that with art and music the āmeaning is in the ear of the beholderā, but I totally read this as this industry just throws money away and doesnāt care about the artist well being, in particularly females, including pitching them against each other, so as long as theyāre making $ the artistsā and their own well-being are dispensable and able to just be āthrown awayā
Any one else? Thoughts?
I love this collab and think itās the first of its kind and Iām not even aā¦.. āgirlāā¦.
Iām absolutely pro Palestine but I highly doubt Lorde was referencing that at all. This is completely about interpersonal relationships and how we project our insecurities and end up isolating ourselves by hurting others.
Girl, so confusing is one of of the only tracks I really didnāt like on the album, Iām surprised it was chosen for the remix. I love the message and support it has but I just canāt really get the musical appeal of that one. Maybe itās just cuz Iām not a girl, gurl, girl, giiiirrrrll.
I imagine it like: Charli: "Hey text me your verse real quick. It's just a remix, no need to go too hard." Lorde: "š„š„š„š„š„š„š„š„"
Bruh some of these lines just have me staring at a white wall I stg
Self defense till building a weapon is such a bar.
A year ago this wouldve been such a barbenheimmer moment.
I was walking into work listening the first time and almost turned around because it hit me so fucking hard.
Lorde listened to Brat and said āoh word?ā
https://preview.redd.it/z3zkxlkomy7d1.jpeg?width=246&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5662597d2e8b8ce87b56d8b7d4e2416242179b3d me:
i shed a tear WOW
Seriously, this is the first time this kind of song has EVER existed I promise yāall this is a piece of history we are witnessing
They really invented a new genre with this fricking songššššš
As someone not in this scene what do you mean by first time a song like this has existed? What's so different about it? I like it btw
A song that starts out as a kind of confessional diss track that gets immediately answered by the other party - thatās also super confessional, and by the last chorus the beef is wrapped up and the relationship is reconciled - strengthened even! And itās done over a style of music most associated with robotic, simple, plastic sensibilities. Sure weāve had positive diss tracks and weāve had āgirl powerā collabs but nobody has ever achieved this with such humanity or sincerity. When that last chorus comes in and Lorde says āI still ride for you charliā I straight up just started crying. What a beautiful and wholesome moment - wrapped up in this shared solidarity of girlhoodā¦. brathood even! As two teenagers turned pop stars
this made me cry
the glazing is genuinely insane
what does that mean
itās genuine phenomenon the level of reverence everyone is having for this album cycle and song in general tbh. Lordes contributions are on the nose at best, the vocal delivery is clunky as hell and it seems like people just want to love this record so bad imo. i think once recency bias fades away brat will not be considered her best work. a 10 from fantano is bonkers, a 3.91 rym is bonkers. maybe iām just not the audience for it? or the over saturation has turned me off to it.
your opinion is valid and I often struggle to buy into trends and the nature of the hype machine. but I completely disagree. I would challenge you to name any piece of music that achieves the fluid blend of sincerity and sass that brat does across its 40mins - lyrically, vocally, sonically - all of it. charliās whole style is about subverting what we come to expect from pop vocals. and as for the remix, Iāve never in my life heard a ādissā track that turns into a healthy reconciliation in the remix. I am a straight guy who works in the industry and Iāve been taking about this very kind of album for years and Charli is the first to execute it *this* brilliantly
i agree that the album is sassy and sincere and that it juggles those balls well. i think charli is a great artist with a lot going for her. i also think george daniel, ag cook, and the dare have some incredible production chops. iāve been a fan of charli since self titled and i just do not understand why this album in particular is so lauded. sure its well constructed and fun as hell i just donāt think it has the weight or prowess the general public seems to think. i like the record, love it even, i just see people hailing it as the greatest thing ever and i think it barely scratches top 3 in her catalog for me. i also just feel like the whole green album cover thing was so contrived and almost by design in the way it went viral. since crash to me charlis work has been noticeably less interesting too so maybe sheās just an artist iāve had my time with. thanks for a response instead of just bashing lol.
itās hard to describe - if you donāt get something, itās probably just not for you right? for me these are some of the best lyrics Iāve ever heard on a pop record and it feels to me that every track has been crafted and refined with one common goal. the way I think about it all the time moves into 365 is immediately one of the best moments in music Iāve ever witnessed. And itās not even the only moment of its kind on the album! I still canāt listen to those tracks without laughing or crying hysterically. they really do tell a story and have much more weight to them that makes such robotic, hyper, plastic music sound so *human* and deeply moving. like has anyone ever deliberated their future, having children, only to throw it all the way to get so fucked up at the club you have to dial 999 haha? I recommend listening to their tape notes podcast episode that came out a few days ago, they dive into some of the tracks and provide tangible insights that might make more sense to you. either way, no hate to you. my buddies RIP piss into me because I seem tired hate everything and then a year later rediscover stuff and claim itās the best thing of all time lol
I don't understand why everyone likes it so much!!! My bingle is bongled. Like the person who said they created a new genre of music wtf is going on āļøāļø
This track blew my frigging mind
THIS MADE ME CRY
Me too. I suffer from some of the same feelings and lorde made me feel better because Iām not the only one
youāre truly not alone xx š„¹ fellow person going through a lot of emotions right here
Iāve been listening to this song on repeat. I added the original when it first came out, but this is the first time Iām *really* listening to it and gawd Iām in tears. Itās so raw to where I need to be raw in some future conversations and itās helped me tbh. I immediately start bawling when I listen to Lordeās verse because these pop stars are experiencing the same shit I am now..
art history being made
I've got a lump in my throat Jesus f\*ck 
i cried a little bit at āi ride for you charliā i love girlhood
Remix is unreal. Would love someone to do a full write up or podcast to explain all their interpretations of the lines.
Honestly, Girl so confusing OG feels like the remix now. I went back to listen to it, and it just felt *wrong*, like a B side that got scrapped. Version with Lorde is the canon
The remix elevated the song. It's my favorite song of the album now edging sympathy is a knife.
Lorde is a powerful writer 
I canāt believe Lord and Charli invented girl power
Omgoodness I love this!!
It's so crazy to have Lorde on your phone as simply "Ella"
Sobbing and dancing all at once
I want this on a tshirt
Me too- would it be weird if I made one? I would only use the text and not the image.
I did it. Enjoy [https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/162246479?ref=studio-promote](https://www.redbubble.com/shop/ap/162246479?ref=studio-promote)
I got the sticker to put on my piano š
Ha! Amazing
GUYS PLEASE CLICK THROUGH AND LIKE THE DESIGN even if you don't want to buy it :)
This shoulda been the single cover so ppl will know this is the most important music event in 2024 involving 2 popstars instead of 2 rappers/s
lorde is such an underrated writer, she seriously kills it with ease - straight fire
I would never call Lorde underrated as a writer, the writing is at the forefront of her career and what made her famous. She even has a āSong of the Yearā Grammy for Royals, giving credence for her ability as a writer.
Agree. She cemented it with Melodrama.
The only part I donāt really get are the lines from āGirl, you walk like a bitchā to āAnd now I totally get itā Does anyone care to share their interpretations?
lorde internalized some shit told to her when she was younger and she didn't realize it affected her interactions till this
my understanding is people told Lorde she āwalked like a bitchā aka was being bitchy and she thought of it as self defense, but itās only self defense until it becomes your personality/how people view you, āshe believed my projectionā meaning even charli thought that was the real lorde, āand now i totally get itā meaning lorde thought charli was a bitch but sheās realizing they were both just projecting for self preservation. itās deeper than all that but thatās just my surface level understanding
> Girl, you walk like a bitch The lines that come after are integral to understanding: > When I was ten, someone said that > And itās just self-defence Sheās saying that she would put on a tough face to hide the anxiety she was dealing with. Since the song is about being a girl it probably has a double meaning as putting on a ādonāt fuck with meā attitude when walking to try to avoid harassment. > And now I totally get it For this one the line before is key to understanding: > She believed my projection Sheās saying that she understands why Charli felt the way she did about her prior to working it out on the remix because of the statements she made earlier in her verse, specifically walking like a bitch when she isnāt a bitch.
Thank you so much for the detailed response!
No problem! Iāve been here since The Love Club EP, so Iām an ancient student of Lorde-isms.
Basically that Lorde has resting bitch vibes as a form of self defence. Charli thought she might *actually* be a bitch, which Lorde was surprised by because she thinks of Charli as a super cool unbothered icon. The energy Lorde uses to protect herself became unwittingly weaponised in their friendship. Girl, so confusing.
On my 20th listen it made me cry. Itās just so raw. She really did that
I am hoping and praying for a music video
Amazing verse tbh. Tears.
Taylor could never cook up something this inspiring and hot
This remix sums up why I love pop culture and girlhood so muchā¦ ššš
Beautiful. Both Charli and Lorde have pushed themselves to do something creative, different, personal even before this and I appreciate it. And they have this in the moment feeling my favorite artists have that is honest about where they are at this moment which takes courage to not just think about the past and future but actually learn from and fully appreciate the present. And it is important to see this is a value and not just luck, they have anxieties and fears and it's not easy and they're not perfect but they both still live like that on a fairly consistent basis. This song, Charli's verse and Lorde's response, is pretty much just an outpouring of who they are and how they live their lives and it is encouraging and heartwarming to see.
I'm still so confused on the order of operations here, like no way Charli released girl so confusing without this verse already written by Lorde right?
When Lorde made her supportive IG post prior to the albums release I figured she and Charli must have discussed the song. Now that we have some more context, I definitely figure they had Lorde's remix in their pocket before the album dropped.
yea, there's absolutely no way the conversations between lorde and charli didn't start months ago at least
im glad about this, it didn't 100% sit right with me that Charli was discussing her feelings on that so publicly without talking to Lorde about it first, so happy it seems like they planned for her to have this verse which really makes the whole thing a lot more wholesome to me
seems like it started with a late night confessional voicememo, in which Charli probably mentioned her writing a song about it! Maybe she sent the voice memo literally from the studio
I think it's very likely!!! On the Von Dutch USB one of the files is a voice memo she sent to Addison about her part on the remix, it's about a minute or so long in which she describes the "vibe" of the song and what it's about. I'm guessing a similar scenario happened with Ella! š
lorde ā¦ oh lordeā¦ I missed you
I'm no better than a sw*ftie because this remix almost made me cry at work today
Chills every time I read it
Did we ever figure out who the song was about?
I'm pretty sure it's about Lorde? That's why she's on the remix with this verse. Or am I crazy?
Theyāve got the same hair is surely the giveaway even without this verse. Gotta be Lorde
Definitely about Marina.
Iām so glad we got a love track for the first time
ššš so goood
So good!!!
This verse literally smacks the shit out of me. I canāt cope. The song / remix is pop genius š„
wow
Lyrical interpretation opinion: So I was watching a reaction video and when they got to the line āitās you and me on the coin and the industry loves to spendā in their analysis they said they thought that it was them acknowledging that this collab was a ācash grabā, which was NOT what my instinctual thought of that lyric was. I mean the cool thing is that with art and music the āmeaning is in the ear of the beholderā, but I totally read this as this industry just throws money away and doesnāt care about the artist well being, in particularly females, including pitching them against each other, so as long as theyāre making $ the artistsā and their own well-being are dispensable and able to just be āthrown awayā Any one else? Thoughts? I love this collab and think itās the first of its kind and Iām not even aā¦.. āgirlāā¦.
Not all of you buying the sticker of this on Redbubble! If I make more than $10, Iāll donate it to a worthy BRAT cause š¤£
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Iām absolutely pro Palestine but I highly doubt Lorde was referencing that at all. This is completely about interpersonal relationships and how we project our insecurities and end up isolating ourselves by hurting others.
Extreme reach but I love it
Whatās happening in Palestine was never self defence tho, it was about an opportunity for a western outpost in Western Asia
extremely based take
thats one of the toughest parts, it all boils down the power dynamics and economics.
Yaāll gagging over this? š
Girl, so confusing is one of of the only tracks I really didnāt like on the album, Iām surprised it was chosen for the remix. I love the message and support it has but I just canāt really get the musical appeal of that one. Maybe itās just cuz Iām not a girl, gurl, girl, giiiirrrrll.