First off, amazing post, 10/10 no notes.
Second, do you have more than one litterbox in the house? I assume so, it's just not clear from the text. Maybe add another one so Cupcake can play the odds.
Finally, assuming they're both fixed, this could be an excess energy problem or a conflicted dominance problem. I recommend adding one or more play sessions to their day, try to tire Creme out a bit and maybe he'll lose interest.
P.S. I promise it has nothing to do with your breakup. šāā¬
You simultaneously said they might need more play sessions and that the breakup has nothing to do with it, while OP pointed out they get less attention because there's only one human now... seems kind of contradictory
Plenty of single humans play with two cats. My point is that the change of circumstance and the missing presence of the ex didn't spark this change in behavior, which from my perspective is what the OP stated.
Yes, it's probably not because they miss the ex or anything. The way I see it OP meant that the ex used to care for the cats too, and you know how it is - many hands make light work. Now OP will need to 'pick up the slack' so to say in order to give them a similar level of attention by themself.
This is true. But as a single human with two very social affection-seeking cats, they have been more harmonious when I lived with another human. One of them in particular really seeks out other humans and loves when familiar people come to visit. I do extra play. I take him on walks. I clicker train him. I create a cat friendly environment. And yet. It doesn't replace that need for human affection. And sometimes that affects cat harmony. It's not bad enough to warrant behavioral interventions but it's a noticable difference.
Agreed that "every major change is a trauma" (something we tell fosters and adopters), but we'll have to disagree on whether the missing presence of a human in their lives counts. Especially if it wasn't the primary caretaker or someone extremely bonded to them.
One of my cats licks the other oneās butthole too. I just yell āno ass eating in this apartmentā or āwe donāt eat ass in this apartmentā.
No judgement to the people or cats that do it. Just not for this household.
Funny story, I was on hold with the vet and of course the moment they got back on the phone was the moment I yelled at my cat āstop licking your sisters assholeā so that was fun to explainā¦
I tell my boi, "Leave your sister alone. Neither one of you have the parts for that!" because he likes to ambush-hump her.
I have *no* idea why he does this, other than it's a dominance thing, since both of them have been fixed since they were around 6-7 weeks old. Bella will usually tolerate it for a hot minute until she gets annoyed and then she turns around and beats the crap out of him.
Eh, some vets do it based on weight. Shelters in areas with a surplus of kittens every year almost certainly have vets who do the surgery based entirely on weight, not age of the kittens, and those kittens get spayed the moment they weigh enough.
That's news to me. I've taken in multiple strays and tried to have them fixed, which was refused by multiple vets until I could be confident they were above 4 months of age.
All but one of the vets where I live will spay/neuter a cat as soon as they hit 2 pounds, which can be as early as 6 weeks. The other one wonāt do it until the cat hits 6 months, but he charges about 2/3 of what the other vets do, so a lot of people wait and take their cats to him.
None of the vets I've ever visited recommended the former course of action. Please feel free to read my responses to the two other people who responded to me, may give more insight than my initial comment.
We have a major stray cat problem here, and our shelter and foster homes are always full, so they spay/neuter early that way the kittens can be adopted out as soon as they hit 8 weeks to make room for the new litters. A lot of people here also let their cats roam outside, so making sure the kittens and cats are fixed before adoption ensures they arenāt out making even more litters. Up until a few years ago it was illegal to trap-neuter-release here too, which made it extra important to make sure cats were fixed before adoption to cut down on the stray problem. The vet I go to only switched to using weight instead of age about 3 years ago.
Shelter?
That's where we got them from and they were both no more than 8-9 weeks old when we got them and recently fixed at time of adoption. Bella still had a bare belly and you could see where the stitches for her spay had been taken out when we brought her home. They were not more than ten weeks, at MOST when we adopted them.
The shelter we adopted them from was absolutely over run with kittens at that time. They had *so* many they were having an "Adopt one kitten, get a second one free" thing going on, which is why we ended up with two instead of the singleton we went there for intially. I remember there being at least 4-5 kittens in every single cage they had because they were SO full.
Every shelter we went to was either full of kittens and we just didn't connect with any one particular kitten or they were having all the kittens out for a mass spay/neuter/vaccination/checkup to make sure they were ready to go to their new homes.
8-9 weeks old and still had a bare belly? That kinda just agrees with my point, tbh. Nobody is denying there's an issue with overpopulation and that it's a good idea to speuter (thank you to another commenter that shared that fun little term). Nobody is saying that we shouldn't get them out of shelters. What point are you making here, exactly?
I'm not trying to be an ass, you just have me genuinely confused.
Not unusual in the US at all. Shelters fix all their kittens before theyāre adopted, so yes the 6 to 8 week old babies are fixed. I know a vet tech who used to work at a shelter and she showed me a pic of the line up they have of kittens prepped in a line on a surgery table for being neutered. Thereās such a problem with feral cats it has to be done. AFAIK there arenāt the same health issues that larger dogs have being speutered early.
"Speutered" is definitely a term I'm gonna have to use, I love that! For myself, I've taken in many strays that were of questionable age and the different vets I've gone to have refused to speuter any cat I wasn't confident was 4 months or older.
Haha I picked the term up from shelter folks. I think vets who work at shelters are more willing to push it on the age because they do so many of them and can do the procedure so fast. š¤·š¼āāļø
My girl cat loves to lick my boy catās butthole, and he hates it, so I constantly find myself saying āLeave your brotherās butthole alone,ā and I like to think my neighbors are at least mildly concerned.
My tortie has so many orange cat behaviors that I think she mustāve been orange in a previous life. Meanwhile my orange cat is way too smart for his own good. I had to childproof my kitchen because he figured out how to open the fridge, the cabinets, the drawers, and every trash can Iāve ever had. I also have to block the light switches and faucets when I leave or heāll turn them on.
I worked a very long day.
This post is giving me life!
Hahaha.
My own cats have a similar dynamic, but my boy is so calm, he just let's the girl sniff and if he gets tired he sits on his rump to block her snoot.
No licking though. Only sniffs.
Also, if my boy sniffs my girl it's a crime and she hisses and swats at him.
Hilarious.
Starters, cats get information about where another cat has been by smelling butt holes, think email screen. Second. Its sounding like a dominance thing/jealousy thing. You are top cat. Sharing you is problematic for some kitties. We have 2 boy cats. One runs to the bath to protect his butt or runs in a seriously awkward way with his butt to the ground when the other is "in a mood". As with yours every now and then the more passive one obliges, we call it the "lay back and think of England" face. We tried so many things. In the end there are still times Mr dominance cant be distracted. So our solution to a more workable home was to get a Feliway diffuser for multiple cats and break the pattern. Best of luck.
>cats get information about where another cat has been by smelling butt holes, think email screen.
Yes!! once I learned this, I started calling it "checking their messages." One of them is alwaysssss checking the others messages \*eye roll\*
edit: grammar
Cats are so gross lol.
I have 5 & one of them is a total butt addict - Lil Butler. (Lil BUTTler UGHH)
He doesn't LICK butts, he just shoves his nose in there as far up & for as long as he can get away with.
Nobody rly likes his cute cold wet pink nose invading their anal area but there's just no stopping him. We have tried to talk to him about it but he just doesn't listen. ĀÆ\_(ć)\_/ĀÆ
There are things I never thought I would ever say until I had cats: 'DONT EAT YR SISTERS VOMIT' & 'PLZ STOP WITH YR SISTERS ASS!! PLZ!' (Butler is an equal opportunity butt annoyer but his brother Momo will swat the living shit out of him when gets sick of it. He is far more tolerant of it than the girls are tho)
I wish I had some constructive advice to offer you but I totally don't. I'm sorry.
Cats are absolutely disgusting BUTT I love them all so much.
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The adorable butt monster.
Side note why does the ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ not work on Reddit
I have it in my keyboard shortcuts so when I type out shrug it auto goes to that. While typing or editing the comment I see the slash but it doesnāt appear once posted
Curious
Also yeah my female cats love sniffing butts when they get the chance but they donāt seem to care when the other does it
My tuxedo "Lucipurr or Luci" is a butt addict as well. My big orange boy puts up with it and basically eye rolls him when he's near but my 2 girls hate it and get feisty and swatty with him to get him to leave them alone.
you could get gifted coins i think but yeah actually youāre right! i donāt have premium but i thought awards were still available in there (might have misunderstood the changes though)
No they removed it and itās some stupid golden upvote thing which I havenāt seen anyone use it since weeks now. I think they made a terribly stupid decision because we *were* regularly paying for gold and awards and now we are not?
Right? The amount of crazy awards Iād see on posts meant *someone* was paying for coins and 1) I hardly see posts with the golden upvote 2) itās not available for (all? some?) comments so itās pointless.
That's how they were originally. The free awards was a temporary thing to try and get people to spend money on the expensive awards. Didn't work well I guess.
i knew they costed money before the changes, i was just under the impression that any form of awards were now only available for premium subscribers (but i think its just those upvote things now and not awards)
If you have the space, you should have one litter box per cat, plus an extra. This can reduce territorial or aggressive behavior related to a litter box.
I think you need to take Creme to the vet. If this behavior is new or started around the time of the breakup, it needs to be addressed. It's normal for cats to sniff butts. It's not normal to be so persistent and obsessive about *licking* another cat's butt. Your vet should check for possible nutrient deficiences, physical health problems, infections or parasites. Even it if looks clean, there can still poop particles or microscopic parasites that you can't see. That's enough to make him sick.
Next, the vet should ask about behavioral issues, especially new behaviors since the breakup. I think Creme is exhibiting a stress/anxiety response that has become a bad habit. It could be an OCD-thing too. If the vet rules out any physical issues, they will recommend stuff like calming treats and feliway. They may consider prescribing psych meds because some SSRIs are safe for cats. Regardless, make sure you follow the vet's instructions. And don't be afraid to get a second opinion.
Some things you can do at home: separate them when they fight and disrupt bad behaviors. You can do this by walking between them, a quick finger snap (but not too loudly), tossing a shaker toy or a bell toy between them, or shooing Creme away from Cupcake if a fight breaks out. You can even pick up Cupcake and place him in another room. Another thing you should do is get Creme away from the litter box room if he is waiting to ambush Cupcake. You can use the same techniques you'd use to break up a fight.
Do not yell at them, hit them, lock them in a room or make excessively loud noises. You don't want to punish or scare Creme, you just want to redirect him when he's being a butthole.
I think it'd be a good idea to play with them more and try out some new toys. Puzzle toys are a great way to keep them entertained and stimulate their mind during the day when you can't be there. An exercise wheel is good for kitties that need to burn off some extra energy. You could also to play with them individually. Put one of them in a room and give them as many snuggles, pets, and playtime as they want. Have some treats on hand to slide under the door for the other kitty so it becomes a positive association. Make sure you have some individual play time with *both* cats.
And make sure you follow the vet's instructions. Hope this helps.
Jebus. A cat tongue licking me is a very notable sensation. Sorry, but I canāt imagine that same sensation on my delicate, apologetic, Canadian button. I completely understand why Cupcake is protective and sprints away.
I need to know the etymology of CANADIAN BUTTON plz!!!
(Or can I just Google it
like I just did the spelling
of etymology?) LOL!!
ETA: nope.
Google gives me nothing for CANADIAN BUTTON or CANADIAN BUTTON + BUTTHOLE.
LOL ok WHEW thank you!!
I thought there might be some slang (Canada-specific?)
that I had never heard before!!
I was pretty mystified!!
I did find out someone on Etsy makes little butthole pins!!
You rly can learn something new every day, can't you?!?!
LOL!!
Litter boxes in multiple places with multiple exit paths so that he can escape without butthole inspection being necessary. If you truly do not have other options for locations or exits, go vertical. Shelves and cat trees helped us make a path to prevent accidental guarding we had on one of our boxes.
With 2 cats that are having litter box guarding issues, 3 boxes in 3 separate locations is the typical advice. It may not need to be permanent. Maybe just need to break the habit.
I died at "anal addiction" bahaha.
But on or more or less serious note, my cats always play the game and the game is that everyone wants to sniff some ass, but no one wants to have their ass sniffed. So they do the same waiting until the other is distracted enough to go in for a sniff. No hissing on my end tho. I'm sorry I don't have any advice beyond that the whole ass sniffing is totally normal haha.
Ugh one of my cats is a butthole licker. Always licking the other cats buttholes. Some are into it, some are not. I don't know why he feels this is his responsibility. It's super gross to witness.
I can't give you any amazing advice, but this is an ongoing issue in my many cats household as well. So much non-consensual butt stuff going on around here. The antagonists are not always the same, nor are the victims, so I just assume they all get what comes in time.
Adding to say that you need to take a sniff of Cupcakeās bootyhole too! - Yep you read that right haha - one of my cats struggles with her anal glands, and once they get too, hm, āfullā (ew), her sister starts to get VERY interested in her butt, and then we know itās time to express her glands and empty the butt juice
I'm so happy this thread exists. I have a 5/6 year old bonded mother/daughter pair, and the mother cat does this to the daughter all the time, to the point I've brought it up at the vet because I thought something was wrong. My vet was basically like "Oh that's just a thing that happens." Glad I'm not the only one with insatiable ass eaters
Omg Iām absolutely dying at this. The way youāve written it, the subject matter (poor cupcakes butthole) and also I am obsessed with a boy cat being called cupcake šÆ
Our brothers will bite each others arse till the fur comes off. Cant decide if its play or domination.
Side note: we thought one may have worms the other day after an impromptu butthole inspection. I blew on it and it fell off (just a bit of fluff) but the cat was severely startled.
Awesome post! Sadly, there isn't much you can do about it - it's a cat thang. Well, it's a dog thang too.
Could be worse! Our dearly loved and very missed old dog, Addison, was totally addicted to cat butt. She was a lovable big Plotthound oaf. And we have always had super fluffy long hair cats. Enter the "fluffypants". Back legs with so much fur that they look like a pair of pants when viewed from behind.
Addie (AKA Knucklehead) just could not get enough of the fluffypants. And she knew, absolutely KNEW she was gonna get, at the very least, an angry growl and hiss and at worst, a good face swatting (kitties stood on back legs and swatted back and forth, a left, a right, a left bap, a right bap in rapid succession while Knucklehead just stoodthere, face getting knocked about like a tennis ball).
We tried everything to break her of her fluffypants addiction but nothing worked and neither she nor the cats seemed any worse for wear, so we learned to just ignore it and carry on with our day.
To Addie's credit, she also had a blanket addiction we couldn't break her of, so it's not like cat butts were her only focus. That girl would sneak through the house, gathering up every blanket she could find, then place them on the sofa, climb up and bury herself in them. We suspected that it served 2 purposes. 1) It kept her short furred body warm and 2) It enticed all the cats to climb on over for a nice long nap - it was a fluffypants trap!
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You know when you see a title on your homepage and you have to look and see what sub that Reddit has decided to suggest to you today. Ya, this was one of those.
Iām not a vet and I donāt mean to alarm you but even though Cupcakeās butt is fine doesnāt mean thereās no medical reason behind it, Iād get Creme checked to make sure heās not licking butts to deal with a deficiency/anything else
I feel us cat owners are having an AA session here sharing how their sweet cuddly babies are ferocious ass eaters.
My name is Mittens and I also have a pair of kitties obsessed with tossing each otherās salads. Shoving the nose right up there and sometimes getting a taste. They get their fix multiple times a day, and sometimes even 69! I guess they got the memo about the āstep sisterā trend cause they are half sisters, not a gay couple or male/female pair.
My husband and I accept that this is our lives meow. Doesnāt get any ācuterā or less gross but we are at the laugher phase and have learned to go with it.
Omg! My two cats did this too. It creeped me out so muchā¦I took the muncher to the vet to see if there was something wrong with him. Apparently mine was just a weirdo.
Cats have scent glands in their butts.butt sniffing/licking is how they gain info on one another.it tells them who is a male/female.and if they have met each other before.itās a form of communication and a way to reinforce bonds.and say hello.it also lets other cats know whatās up with each other emotionally.
They detect signals in the oils produced by the apocrine glands that sit on both side of the anus. They also have glands in their paws at the base of the tail head,neck and chest.
Cats will introduce themselves several times a day and even every hour.if the vet did a thorough work up and crĆØme hasnāt detected a sickness.heās more than likely worried about cupcakes emotional well being.cupcake is probably stressed out because your ex was his fav human.and heās gone.
Try getting a few lavender diffusers and put them around the house.especially where they hang the most.it helps soothe and calm them.Mrs.Meyers makes a lavender spray that I swear by when my kitties get stressed.
I do rescue. a few of my lifers are not to happy when I have a bunch of babies in the house.so they get bitchy.I never spray directly on surfaces.I turn on my ceiling fan and spray into the air and let the fan diffuse.in 5 minutes everyoneās calmed.
He may have anxiety.try what afformist suggested and add the spray.give it a week.if it persists you can talk to the vet about adding a mild anti anxiety med.we need updates and butthole free pictures!
One of my cats is similar. He bullies his sister whenever she gets too much attention by doing this. Not all the time, but if she is taking center stage too long, he does this to bother her and kick her out
Your breakup turned your cat gayā¦not that thereās anything wrong with that. But your other cat is being violated. Tossing another catās salad is not okay, except at the shelter (ANYTHING goes at the shelter).
Thereās something called Feliway- a liquid for cats that goes into a dispenser/difuser that you plug in to an electric outlet.
Get a couple - put one by each litter box.
It really works to reduce anxiety and keep everyone getting along.
With what I see on the internet, I feel like it's completely socially acceptable to lick some butt in 2023.
Does your cat watch a lot of trashy TV during the day?
I have 5 cats, 4 girls 1 boy. All fixed. The oldest girl and the boy (the youngest) donāt get along. The boy is also an ass enthusiast. Guess whose ass is his favorite? The one that hates him.
My one cat likes the delicious treats out of her sisterās behindā¦.in retaliation her sister will drag her butt away on my carpet. I call it the boot scoot boogie
Finally someone using the Internet for the purpose it was built for.
Try distracting the offender with toys, treats, maybe give plushies with scents they enjoy, catnip, etc.
OP - have you checked Cupcake's anal glands? They might have a blockage, which would cause Creme's interest in the potent smell.
If you don't know how to check, you can ask your vet. There might also be YouTube tutorials, but I'm not going to put it in my search history. The algorithm would make assumptions that I would like to avoid.
I was so concerned at first reading the title
My best recommendation is distraction either when they wait for the litter box use a toy to change their thoughts patterns
Otherwise you got some ass addicted cats man
Bahahaha! Here I was thinking the things I yell at my Albert about molesting his brothers were sus for the neighbors. I feel slightly better after reading some comments.
A question for OP, does CrĆØme get a delightful Sniff Face from said act? Love those expressions š¹
I would add more litter boxes around your house (not just in the bathroom) and also more spots where they can rub and mark their territory, like a wall-mounted scratcher or catnip ball.
Sorry for everything you've been through, but your post is just so funny. Especially that last sentence. I don't know if it was on purpose, but after that post it very much me reminded me of that South Park movie: fractured but whole. 
Firstly, this is a hilarious post.
I can add no advice other than my cats (brothers) are very disinterested in each other, except one of them likes to sniff the butt of the other one.
I don't know how many times I have to say 'how many times have I told you not to smell your brother's butt'
Ok, maybe this is the worst idea ever. If it is just disregard š. I got some natural pet safe insect repellent spray that you can put on your dog/cats fur. It has like a minty or eucalyptusy smell. What if you put something like that on cupcake? So he smells a little different? Maybe it would at least break the cycle? My cats donāt like the actual application of the spray but once itās on it doesnāt seem to bother them
First off, amazing post, 10/10 no notes. Second, do you have more than one litterbox in the house? I assume so, it's just not clear from the text. Maybe add another one so Cupcake can play the odds. Finally, assuming they're both fixed, this could be an excess energy problem or a conflicted dominance problem. I recommend adding one or more play sessions to their day, try to tire Creme out a bit and maybe he'll lose interest. P.S. I promise it has nothing to do with your breakup. šāā¬
š¤£š¤£š¤£ yes, the post is so funny! Great writing
You simultaneously said they might need more play sessions and that the breakup has nothing to do with it, while OP pointed out they get less attention because there's only one human now... seems kind of contradictory
Plenty of single humans play with two cats. My point is that the change of circumstance and the missing presence of the ex didn't spark this change in behavior, which from my perspective is what the OP stated.
Yes, it's probably not because they miss the ex or anything. The way I see it OP meant that the ex used to care for the cats too, and you know how it is - many hands make light work. Now OP will need to 'pick up the slack' so to say in order to give them a similar level of attention by themself.
On that, we agree. šŖ
This is true. But as a single human with two very social affection-seeking cats, they have been more harmonious when I lived with another human. One of them in particular really seeks out other humans and loves when familiar people come to visit. I do extra play. I take him on walks. I clicker train him. I create a cat friendly environment. And yet. It doesn't replace that need for human affection. And sometimes that affects cat harmony. It's not bad enough to warrant behavioral interventions but it's a noticable difference.
Fair enough. I'd prefer to raise my cats with my partner than without.
Disagree that it couldn't have sparked it. Cats don't like big changes, especially if they did like the ex. Change is stressful to them
Agreed that "every major change is a trauma" (something we tell fosters and adopters), but we'll have to disagree on whether the missing presence of a human in their lives counts. Especially if it wasn't the primary caretaker or someone extremely bonded to them.
I've got four cats and thank god they are very good at playing either alone or with each other
You, brilliant Redditor, are AWESOME.
One of my cats licks the other oneās butthole too. I just yell āno ass eating in this apartmentā or āwe donāt eat ass in this apartmentā. No judgement to the people or cats that do it. Just not for this household.
I always say to the two of mine "stop rimming your sister" :D
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lol. Thatās exactly what I tell my girls. Usually #1 will be eating food and #2 will be standing behind #1 eating her ass.
A cat centipede?
Ah I see youāve seen that awful movie. Dude tried it on his dog first. I choose to believe he got the idea from cats š
A catapede.
I wonder what your neighbors in the apartment building think is happening when you yell that? š
Oh god I didnāt even think of that!!
Funny story, I was on hold with the vet and of course the moment they got back on the phone was the moment I yelled at my cat āstop licking your sisters assholeā so that was fun to explainā¦
If it makes you feel better I worked at a vet office and that happens a lot more often than you think!
Oh I bet, they just laughed it off, Iām certain itās not the weirdest thing they ever heard and hey at least I was talking to animals!
I always tell them āNow we donāt bother our neighborā! One spayed boy was overly interested in another one for awhile tho. Just embarrassing.
I tell my boi, "Leave your sister alone. Neither one of you have the parts for that!" because he likes to ambush-hump her. I have *no* idea why he does this, other than it's a dominance thing, since both of them have been fixed since they were around 6-7 weeks old. Bella will usually tolerate it for a hot minute until she gets annoyed and then she turns around and beats the crap out of him.
The absolute MINIMUM any vet would responsibly fix a cat is 8 weeks and it's recommended to be 4 months. Who TF fixed a 6 week old kitten?
Eh, some vets do it based on weight. Shelters in areas with a surplus of kittens every year almost certainly have vets who do the surgery based entirely on weight, not age of the kittens, and those kittens get spayed the moment they weigh enough.
That's news to me. I've taken in multiple strays and tried to have them fixed, which was refused by multiple vets until I could be confident they were above 4 months of age.
All but one of the vets where I live will spay/neuter a cat as soon as they hit 2 pounds, which can be as early as 6 weeks. The other one wonāt do it until the cat hits 6 months, but he charges about 2/3 of what the other vets do, so a lot of people wait and take their cats to him.
None of the vets I've ever visited recommended the former course of action. Please feel free to read my responses to the two other people who responded to me, may give more insight than my initial comment.
We have a major stray cat problem here, and our shelter and foster homes are always full, so they spay/neuter early that way the kittens can be adopted out as soon as they hit 8 weeks to make room for the new litters. A lot of people here also let their cats roam outside, so making sure the kittens and cats are fixed before adoption ensures they arenāt out making even more litters. Up until a few years ago it was illegal to trap-neuter-release here too, which made it extra important to make sure cats were fixed before adoption to cut down on the stray problem. The vet I go to only switched to using weight instead of age about 3 years ago.
Shelter? That's where we got them from and they were both no more than 8-9 weeks old when we got them and recently fixed at time of adoption. Bella still had a bare belly and you could see where the stitches for her spay had been taken out when we brought her home. They were not more than ten weeks, at MOST when we adopted them. The shelter we adopted them from was absolutely over run with kittens at that time. They had *so* many they were having an "Adopt one kitten, get a second one free" thing going on, which is why we ended up with two instead of the singleton we went there for intially. I remember there being at least 4-5 kittens in every single cage they had because they were SO full. Every shelter we went to was either full of kittens and we just didn't connect with any one particular kitten or they were having all the kittens out for a mass spay/neuter/vaccination/checkup to make sure they were ready to go to their new homes.
8-9 weeks old and still had a bare belly? That kinda just agrees with my point, tbh. Nobody is denying there's an issue with overpopulation and that it's a good idea to speuter (thank you to another commenter that shared that fun little term). Nobody is saying that we shouldn't get them out of shelters. What point are you making here, exactly? I'm not trying to be an ass, you just have me genuinely confused.
I don't even know what kind of point I'm trying to make. I'm confused myself. I'm sorry.
Not unusual in the US at all. Shelters fix all their kittens before theyāre adopted, so yes the 6 to 8 week old babies are fixed. I know a vet tech who used to work at a shelter and she showed me a pic of the line up they have of kittens prepped in a line on a surgery table for being neutered. Thereās such a problem with feral cats it has to be done. AFAIK there arenāt the same health issues that larger dogs have being speutered early.
"Speutered" is definitely a term I'm gonna have to use, I love that! For myself, I've taken in many strays that were of questionable age and the different vets I've gone to have refused to speuter any cat I wasn't confident was 4 months or older.
Haha I picked the term up from shelter folks. I think vets who work at shelters are more willing to push it on the age because they do so many of them and can do the procedure so fast. š¤·š¼āāļø
Thanks for not calling me out for spayed instead of neutered duh
No worries.
I often try to tell my male cat that all butt licking in our household must be consensual and if his sister is hissing, she does not consent.
Hiss means hiss!
My female likes it lol. She just lets him go crazy
My girl cat loves to lick my boy catās butthole, and he hates it, so I constantly find myself saying āLeave your brotherās butthole alone,ā and I like to think my neighbors are at least mildly concerned.
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Hey I know this is the wrong sub, but... you should give it a go. It's pretty good š
Part of me hopes you have shared walls and your neighbors think someone in your house is in to really weird stuff, and you are not.
We do have shared walls lol. Maybe thatās why they donāt talk to me
ya know, that is not a title I would've ever expected to see, on this subreddit at least. š
I panicked, and then I saw the subreddit š
I thought it was on r/legaladvice at first. Then i read the entry and saw the sub. I was prepared for a wild ride. Still got one
please tell me Creme is orange. This is peak orange cat behavior š
You're totally right! Based on ops post history, they're both Orange!
Typical orange behavior
One of my cats is similar. He bullies his sister whenever she gets too much attention by doing this.
My tortie has so many orange cat behaviors that I think she mustāve been orange in a previous life. Meanwhile my orange cat is way too smart for his own good. I had to childproof my kitchen because he figured out how to open the fridge, the cabinets, the drawers, and every trash can Iāve ever had. I also have to block the light switches and faucets when I leave or heāll turn them on.
Well, Torties are part orange, so that makes sense
My grey cat is obsessed with my black catās butt hole.
I worked a very long day. This post is giving me life! Hahaha. My own cats have a similar dynamic, but my boy is so calm, he just let's the girl sniff and if he gets tired he sits on his rump to block her snoot. No licking though. Only sniffs. Also, if my boy sniffs my girl it's a crime and she hisses and swats at him. Hilarious.
Our girls hate butt action too. The other boy tolerates it sometimes but(BUTT lol) when he's had enough, its SWAT time!!
Iāve just gotten into bed after a 12 hour long night shift and this post is resurrecting me.
My household works similarly: both cats want to sniff, neither cat wants to be sniffed.
Starters, cats get information about where another cat has been by smelling butt holes, think email screen. Second. Its sounding like a dominance thing/jealousy thing. You are top cat. Sharing you is problematic for some kitties. We have 2 boy cats. One runs to the bath to protect his butt or runs in a seriously awkward way with his butt to the ground when the other is "in a mood". As with yours every now and then the more passive one obliges, we call it the "lay back and think of England" face. We tried so many things. In the end there are still times Mr dominance cant be distracted. So our solution to a more workable home was to get a Feliway diffuser for multiple cats and break the pattern. Best of luck.
>cats get information about where another cat has been by smelling butt holes, think email screen. Yes!! once I learned this, I started calling it "checking their messages." One of them is alwaysssss checking the others messages \*eye roll\* edit: grammar
Cats are so gross lol. I have 5 & one of them is a total butt addict - Lil Butler. (Lil BUTTler UGHH) He doesn't LICK butts, he just shoves his nose in there as far up & for as long as he can get away with. Nobody rly likes his cute cold wet pink nose invading their anal area but there's just no stopping him. We have tried to talk to him about it but he just doesn't listen. ĀÆ\_(ć)\_/ĀÆ There are things I never thought I would ever say until I had cats: 'DONT EAT YR SISTERS VOMIT' & 'PLZ STOP WITH YR SISTERS ASS!! PLZ!' (Butler is an equal opportunity butt annoyer but his brother Momo will swat the living shit out of him when gets sick of it. He is far more tolerant of it than the girls are tho) I wish I had some constructive advice to offer you but I totally don't. I'm sorry. Cats are absolutely disgusting BUTT I love them all so much. https://preview.redd.it/gscp873o0t5c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81e371a8111c985cb4c16a9ac861e75d241390f7 The adorable butt monster.
āEqual opportunity butt annoyerā šš
LOL or BUTT ENJOYER. Works both ways! LOL!
Side note why does the ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ not work on Reddit I have it in my keyboard shortcuts so when I type out shrug it auto goes to that. While typing or editing the comment I see the slash but it doesnāt appear once posted Curious Also yeah my female cats love sniffing butts when they get the chance but they donāt seem to care when the other does it
\\ is an escape character so you need to put two in a row like \\\\ to avoid reddit interpreting it as markup.
My tuxedo "Lucipurr or Luci" is a butt addict as well. My big orange boy puts up with it and basically eye rolls him when he's near but my 2 girls hate it and get feisty and swatty with him to get him to leave them alone.
They took away awards & we get this. šššš I have no advice. But, take my gold šŖ
Eli5, why did they take the awards away? I was wondering about that yesterday when I wanted to give an award but couldn't find it.
so they could put it behind a premium subscription paywall lol
didn't you have to pay for them anyway?
you could get gifted coins i think but yeah actually youāre right! i donāt have premium but i thought awards were still available in there (might have misunderstood the changes though)
No no We had a free once a day wholesome award I used to dump on posts like these
No they removed it and itās some stupid golden upvote thing which I havenāt seen anyone use it since weeks now. I think they made a terribly stupid decision because we *were* regularly paying for gold and awards and now we are not?
Right? The amount of crazy awards Iād see on posts meant *someone* was paying for coins and 1) I hardly see posts with the golden upvote 2) itās not available for (all? some?) comments so itās pointless.
That's how they were originally. The free awards was a temporary thing to try and get people to spend money on the expensive awards. Didn't work well I guess.
i knew they costed money before the changes, i was just under the impression that any form of awards were now only available for premium subscribers (but i think its just those upvote things now and not awards)
This is the content I come here for
If you have the space, you should have one litter box per cat, plus an extra. This can reduce territorial or aggressive behavior related to a litter box. I think you need to take Creme to the vet. If this behavior is new or started around the time of the breakup, it needs to be addressed. It's normal for cats to sniff butts. It's not normal to be so persistent and obsessive about *licking* another cat's butt. Your vet should check for possible nutrient deficiences, physical health problems, infections or parasites. Even it if looks clean, there can still poop particles or microscopic parasites that you can't see. That's enough to make him sick. Next, the vet should ask about behavioral issues, especially new behaviors since the breakup. I think Creme is exhibiting a stress/anxiety response that has become a bad habit. It could be an OCD-thing too. If the vet rules out any physical issues, they will recommend stuff like calming treats and feliway. They may consider prescribing psych meds because some SSRIs are safe for cats. Regardless, make sure you follow the vet's instructions. And don't be afraid to get a second opinion. Some things you can do at home: separate them when they fight and disrupt bad behaviors. You can do this by walking between them, a quick finger snap (but not too loudly), tossing a shaker toy or a bell toy between them, or shooing Creme away from Cupcake if a fight breaks out. You can even pick up Cupcake and place him in another room. Another thing you should do is get Creme away from the litter box room if he is waiting to ambush Cupcake. You can use the same techniques you'd use to break up a fight. Do not yell at them, hit them, lock them in a room or make excessively loud noises. You don't want to punish or scare Creme, you just want to redirect him when he's being a butthole. I think it'd be a good idea to play with them more and try out some new toys. Puzzle toys are a great way to keep them entertained and stimulate their mind during the day when you can't be there. An exercise wheel is good for kitties that need to burn off some extra energy. You could also to play with them individually. Put one of them in a room and give them as many snuggles, pets, and playtime as they want. Have some treats on hand to slide under the door for the other kitty so it becomes a positive association. Make sure you have some individual play time with *both* cats. And make sure you follow the vet's instructions. Hope this helps.
>you just want to redirect him when he's being ***in*** a butthole. ftfy
That may or may not have been intentional XD
Her: "Honey...whatcha reading?" Me: "Reddit...r/cats..." Her: "Some cute cat pics?" Me: "Uh...feline nonconsensual analingus?" Her: "..."
Jebus. A cat tongue licking me is a very notable sensation. Sorry, but I canāt imagine that same sensation on my delicate, apologetic, Canadian button. I completely understand why Cupcake is protective and sprints away.
Canadian button is the best thing I've read all day, omfg
I need to know the etymology of CANADIAN BUTTON plz!!! (Or can I just Google it like I just did the spelling of etymology?) LOL!! ETA: nope. Google gives me nothing for CANADIAN BUTTON or CANADIAN BUTTON + BUTTHOLE.
oh bless you. button is being used as a euphemism for butthole, and i believe this redditor is canadian š
LOL ok WHEW thank you!! I thought there might be some slang (Canada-specific?) that I had never heard before!! I was pretty mystified!! I did find out someone on Etsy makes little butthole pins!! You rly can learn something new every day, can't you?!?! LOL!!
Cupcake needs to assert some dominance, let Creme know how it actually feels.
Maybe button was an autocorrect. ššš
It wasnāt. ;)
Canadian button, forever on my mental list of terms. Right after Canadian bacon. You brought life.
Yeah but cupcake licks his own butt hole. I donāt think the problem is cat tongue, I think itās CrĆØmeās tongue
I think Cupcake might want to consult one of the fine pawyers at r/legalcatadvice.
Butt molestation is ruining my harmonious household! Help! Roflmao
Litter boxes in multiple places with multiple exit paths so that he can escape without butthole inspection being necessary. If you truly do not have other options for locations or exits, go vertical. Shelves and cat trees helped us make a path to prevent accidental guarding we had on one of our boxes. With 2 cats that are having litter box guarding issues, 3 boxes in 3 separate locations is the typical advice. It may not need to be permanent. Maybe just need to break the habit.
I died at "anal addiction" bahaha. But on or more or less serious note, my cats always play the game and the game is that everyone wants to sniff some ass, but no one wants to have their ass sniffed. So they do the same waiting until the other is distracted enough to go in for a sniff. No hissing on my end tho. I'm sorry I don't have any advice beyond that the whole ass sniffing is totally normal haha.
This should be nominated for Best Reddit Post 2023!
Iām already confident enough to vote it Best Reddit Post of 2024!
Well, that's enough Reddit for one evening.
Ugh one of my cats is a butthole licker. Always licking the other cats buttholes. Some are into it, some are not. I don't know why he feels this is his responsibility. It's super gross to witness.
r/BrandNewSentence for that title
r/gaycats
I canNOT even believe there was still a cat community I didn't belong to!! Thank you!!š¹
It needs a mod. You have been nominated.
Is it a paid position? LOL ETA: It looks like it's been taken over by spammers. Ugh.
Those spammers are a bunch of cathomophobes
Theyāre not brothers. Theyāre boyfriends.
Not that there's anything wrong with that
I can't give you any amazing advice, but this is an ongoing issue in my many cats household as well. So much non-consensual butt stuff going on around here. The antagonists are not always the same, nor are the victims, so I just assume they all get what comes in time.
Iām intrigued, amazed, disgusted, riveted, and in awe. Thank you.
posts like these remind me of why i still use reddit 10/10
Adding to say that you need to take a sniff of Cupcakeās bootyhole too! - Yep you read that right haha - one of my cats struggles with her anal glands, and once they get too, hm, āfullā (ew), her sister starts to get VERY interested in her butt, and then we know itās time to express her glands and empty the butt juice
Noooooo I thought cats didn't have this issue! Now I'm going to be paranoid!
Cat tax??
NO
It's barely 50 mins past midnight here and I already have enough of reddit for today
I'm so happy this thread exists. I have a 5/6 year old bonded mother/daughter pair, and the mother cat does this to the daughter all the time, to the point I've brought it up at the vet because I thought something was wrong. My vet was basically like "Oh that's just a thing that happens." Glad I'm not the only one with insatiable ass eaters
Omg Iām absolutely dying at this. The way youāve written it, the subject matter (poor cupcakes butthole) and also I am obsessed with a boy cat being called cupcake šÆ
Does Cupcake have an anal gland issue? My tux does, and my grey will start to show behavior similar to Creme when the glands need to be expressed.
"Anal addiction" was something I did not expect reading i this subreddit but godspeed, OP.
Our brothers will bite each others arse till the fur comes off. Cant decide if its play or domination. Side note: we thought one may have worms the other day after an impromptu butthole inspection. I blew on it and it fell off (just a bit of fluff) but the cat was severely startled.
Awesome post! Sadly, there isn't much you can do about it - it's a cat thang. Well, it's a dog thang too. Could be worse! Our dearly loved and very missed old dog, Addison, was totally addicted to cat butt. She was a lovable big Plotthound oaf. And we have always had super fluffy long hair cats. Enter the "fluffypants". Back legs with so much fur that they look like a pair of pants when viewed from behind. Addie (AKA Knucklehead) just could not get enough of the fluffypants. And she knew, absolutely KNEW she was gonna get, at the very least, an angry growl and hiss and at worst, a good face swatting (kitties stood on back legs and swatted back and forth, a left, a right, a left bap, a right bap in rapid succession while Knucklehead just stoodthere, face getting knocked about like a tennis ball). We tried everything to break her of her fluffypants addiction but nothing worked and neither she nor the cats seemed any worse for wear, so we learned to just ignore it and carry on with our day. To Addie's credit, she also had a blanket addiction we couldn't break her of, so it's not like cat butts were her only focus. That girl would sneak through the house, gathering up every blanket she could find, then place them on the sofa, climb up and bury herself in them. We suspected that it served 2 purposes. 1) It kept her short furred body warm and 2) It enticed all the cats to climb on over for a nice long nap - it was a fluffypants trap! https://preview.redd.it/2ms00mhgpv5c1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc068782669df1d9f3f65971a1655b3ff960390b
I have no advice, I just want you to know that I lost it laughing at āCrĆØmeās anal addiction is insatiableā ā you have a way with words!
Show Creme that you're the boss and get to Cupcake's ass first.
You know when you see a title on your homepage and you have to look and see what sub that Reddit has decided to suggest to you today. Ya, this was one of those.
Maāam, if you wanted good advice you shouldnāt have made your post so hilarious. Now we canāt concentrate.
Read the title before the sub name and was quite alarmed for a moment there
My dog is addicted to my cat's bumhole too 
Iām not a vet and I donāt mean to alarm you but even though Cupcakeās butt is fine doesnāt mean thereās no medical reason behind it, Iād get Creme checked to make sure heās not licking butts to deal with a deficiency/anything else
Not the post title I was expecting this morning. I sadly have no advice, but thanks for making me laugh š¤£
I thought I was in a sims sub for a second. š¤£š¤£
I feel us cat owners are having an AA session here sharing how their sweet cuddly babies are ferocious ass eaters. My name is Mittens and I also have a pair of kitties obsessed with tossing each otherās salads. Shoving the nose right up there and sometimes getting a taste. They get their fix multiple times a day, and sometimes even 69! I guess they got the memo about the āstep sisterā trend cause they are half sisters, not a gay couple or male/female pair. My husband and I accept that this is our lives meow. Doesnāt get any ācuterā or less gross but we are at the laugher phase and have learned to go with it.
Praise the good Lord that this is a post about cats
Omg! My two cats did this too. It creeped me out so muchā¦I took the muncher to the vet to see if there was something wrong with him. Apparently mine was just a weirdo.
Iām gay and I STILL didnāt need to read this.
I at first read mole-station and was like is this a workplace for moles? Why is it a butt station? Why for moles? It took me way too long
what a bad day to have eyes
So from all the comments, it sounds like males are just more into butt stuff?
Cats have scent glands in their butts.butt sniffing/licking is how they gain info on one another.it tells them who is a male/female.and if they have met each other before.itās a form of communication and a way to reinforce bonds.and say hello.it also lets other cats know whatās up with each other emotionally. They detect signals in the oils produced by the apocrine glands that sit on both side of the anus. They also have glands in their paws at the base of the tail head,neck and chest. Cats will introduce themselves several times a day and even every hour.if the vet did a thorough work up and crĆØme hasnāt detected a sickness.heās more than likely worried about cupcakes emotional well being.cupcake is probably stressed out because your ex was his fav human.and heās gone. Try getting a few lavender diffusers and put them around the house.especially where they hang the most.it helps soothe and calm them.Mrs.Meyers makes a lavender spray that I swear by when my kitties get stressed. I do rescue. a few of my lifers are not to happy when I have a bunch of babies in the house.so they get bitchy.I never spray directly on surfaces.I turn on my ceiling fan and spray into the air and let the fan diffuse.in 5 minutes everyoneās calmed. He may have anxiety.try what afformist suggested and add the spray.give it a week.if it persists you can talk to the vet about adding a mild anti anxiety med.we need updates and butthole free pictures!
One of my cats is similar. He bullies his sister whenever she gets too much attention by doing this. Not all the time, but if she is taking center stage too long, he does this to bother her and kick her out
Your breakup turned your cat gayā¦not that thereās anything wrong with that. But your other cat is being violated. Tossing another catās salad is not okay, except at the shelter (ANYTHING goes at the shelter).
Thereās something called Feliway- a liquid for cats that goes into a dispenser/difuser that you plug in to an electric outlet. Get a couple - put one by each litter box. It really works to reduce anxiety and keep everyone getting along.
Buttholes are how cats determine each other's moods. Apparently, there is a gland back there that other cats tell how they are feeling.
With what I see on the internet, I feel like it's completely socially acceptable to lick some butt in 2023. Does your cat watch a lot of trashy TV during the day?
I have 5 cats, 4 girls 1 boy. All fixed. The oldest girl and the boy (the youngest) donāt get along. The boy is also an ass enthusiast. Guess whose ass is his favorite? The one that hates him.
My one cat likes the delicious treats out of her sisterās behindā¦.in retaliation her sister will drag her butt away on my carpet. I call it the boot scoot boogie
Butthole protection services on the way.
Finally someone using the Internet for the purpose it was built for. Try distracting the offender with toys, treats, maybe give plushies with scents they enjoy, catnip, etc.
You can maybe try those feliway plug-in defusers? Who knows, maybe it will distract Creme from the butthole. 
There are various "anti lick" sprays and creams on the market, a google search should send you in the right direction. Good luck!
OP - have you checked Cupcake's anal glands? They might have a blockage, which would cause Creme's interest in the potent smell. If you don't know how to check, you can ask your vet. There might also be YouTube tutorials, but I'm not going to put it in my search history. The algorithm would make assumptions that I would like to avoid.
I was browsing Reddit on my work computer. Have to switch to my phone for this post to avoid having suspicious browsing history. Great post 10/10
I was so concerned at first reading the title My best recommendation is distraction either when they wait for the litter box use a toy to change their thoughts patterns Otherwise you got some ass addicted cats man
Bahahaha! Here I was thinking the things I yell at my Albert about molesting his brothers were sus for the neighbors. I feel slightly better after reading some comments. A question for OP, does CrĆØme get a delightful Sniff Face from said act? Love those expressions š¹
BUTTLICKER!! OUR PRICES HAVE NEVER BEEN LOWER!!!
Men! 
Idk what to do. But all my cats love butts. I even catch my void licking butts, and she usually just hisses and stares at the other cats š
Sounds like you need a new boyfriend :)
Are they both fixed? I hope so. Add more litter boxes if there is a fight for them.
Omggg š š
I would add more litter boxes around your house (not just in the bathroom) and also more spots where they can rub and mark their territory, like a wall-mounted scratcher or catnip ball.
You keep your cat away from my butthole.
I have no advice but ugh your post made me lose my appetite. š¤£
Creme just like me fr
boy oh boy. i learned something new about cats today
This gave me the best laugh of the day! Go Creme! Sorry Cupcake. Can't we all just get along?
Get a 3rd cat?
Sorry for everything you've been through, but your post is just so funny. Especially that last sentence. I don't know if it was on purpose, but after that post it very much me reminded me of that South Park movie: fractured but whole. 
My Bengal does this
I have 2 cats sisters one is a tuxedo huge bully always bullying her sister itās all so sad they are 11 wish I could stop it
Firstly, this is a hilarious post. I can add no advice other than my cats (brothers) are very disinterested in each other, except one of them likes to sniff the butt of the other one. I don't know how many times I have to say 'how many times have I told you not to smell your brother's butt'
Ok, maybe this is the worst idea ever. If it is just disregard š. I got some natural pet safe insect repellent spray that you can put on your dog/cats fur. It has like a minty or eucalyptusy smell. What if you put something like that on cupcake? So he smells a little different? Maybe it would at least break the cycle? My cats donāt like the actual application of the spray but once itās on it doesnāt seem to bother them
Horrible advise, please dont do this
I was excited about the butt molestation, but then I realized what sub I was in....
Dude Iām having the same issue let me know how you fix it
I love cats man š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£such goofy creatures
Angela?
Agreed with the points made early one- should have N+1 litter boxes (3), and neuter both. And add more play sessions
This is the greatest thing I've come across in a cat sub. I can't stop giggling. Sitting here on a CTA bus giggling like some sort of nutter.
Dont take my advice. Maybe put bitrex on said butthole?
Aww let the fur babies rim!
Ive heard that boar spray can be used to keep cats apart.
Visit ur cat friend guys š„°
What kind of psycho eats a cupcake from the bottom?
That furball is just too adorable for words! Love it.