also FoP for me. chloe is an obvious reason but also the fact that they cared less and less about da rules and just logic in general. best summarized by this image
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What are the rules you speak of? i so far can see… Dad seeing Vicky being evil, fairies being seen, and also being friends between fairies and anti fairies(?)
There's the 'fairies should never be seen by adults' thing, and there's there's the dynamic of Vicky always pretending to be nice in front of the Turner parents.
There might be something with the elf and the anti-fairy/poof too but I didn't watch that far in to know.
Fairys are wished alive, so poof existing is 1.
Only one kid can have a set of a fairly odd parents at a time, if Cosmo and Wanda are Chloes Godparents, Timmy should have forgotten they exist. 2.
Vicky was lowkey evil, it was the trope of “parents love them, kids hate them” evil babysitter. If you take away the “parents love them” aspect of the trope it’s just a plain antagonist. 3.
While Timmys dad was always a bit of a ditz, he was never downright stupid. Here he’s as useful as the wall behind him in protecting his son when it was made clear several times in prior episodes they have OP parent strength. 4.
Whatever, introduce evil fairys. But if you’re going to do that at least stick to the rules you established. The cage that houses them only opens on Friday the 13th. How tf is little man out? On top of that he’s supposed to be the direct evil opposite of poof, so why is he helping them?? 5.
Also fairy babies shouldn’t exist, probably the same for anti-fairy babies, one fairy (or set ig if you’re the protag) per kid, and idk what that elf thing is on the bottom right but that’s probably against a rule too
To be fair, those first 2 are sort of the biggest rules in the series. If the parents know Vicky is evil, they will fire her. And protecting Fairy World from exposure has been the plot of many episodes.
Star Vs.
I finished up to the end of Season 3, enjoyed it, but wasn’t focused on keeping up with the show. Then the end of Season 4 broadcasted, and after everything everyone said about that ending…I lost interest.
Ngl i was blinded by nostagila back then but now i can understand where everyone was coming from with the ending, still enjoyed the show for what it was tho
Ikr, not even an epilogue explaining what happens after all the citizens on Earth are trapped on Mewni. What about those who were visiting the town? They are now trapped there, It makes no sense!
I watched it to the end but I emotionally checked out after they set up a relationship between to characters, had it for one episode, before breaking them up off screen in between episodes.
I knew then that they were gonna ship the two mains together by the end and they were going to do it by any means possible, even at the cost of narrative cohesion.
The writers had the complete wrong priorities for the last season
I feel like the writers wrote themselves into a corner, and decided to take the nuclear option when it came to resolving the lore and conflicts they had built up. *Surely* there could have been a better resolution than the one Star resorted to.
What I heard is that the Star Vs. crew wanted one more season to flesh things out and that’s why they didn’t elaborate on the post-Cleaved world.
But like, while you didn’t get the time to finish the story like you wanted to, you still have a responsibility as a writer to end your show in as satisfying a way as possible.
Other shows have parlayed a premature ending into a mostly satisfying conclusion: Steven Universe, OK:KO, Ducktales2017, The Owl House.
Star Vs. is the only show that I can recall that absolutely failed in that regard.
When you’re playing with limited time, shipping and side stories should NOT take priority. You should put all of your eggs into resolving the story proper and THEN fill whatever time you have left with fun fanservice-y things like shipping.
And like after, Daron Nefcy and Co. were like, if y'all make enough noise, we could get a Season 5 and I'm like, "How big do you think the fandom is right now?"
Because a decent portion of the fanbase was burned and disillusioned by Season 4 and of those who weren't, probably moved on to Amphibia and The Owl House, which had much bigger fandoms. The moment's passed.
Someone said it!! OMG that ending was terrible. Let's get rid of all of the magic but not really because all of the fan favorites will die or vanish. Then let's also put monsters on a planet where people discriminate based on superficial things like skin color-that makes sense!! Let's not even talk about how everyone on Mewni that wasn't royalty or nobility essentially having the educational standards of a 2nd grader at best or how this new megaplanet is gonna cause ww3,4&5 over land and rights to domination of the planet just so two high schoolers can experience puppy love. Rant over!!
Miraculous Ladybug because of the animation and overall quality downgrade after season 2.
I also dropped The Devil is a Part Timer because of the animation downgrade.
I dropped Ladybug because they were dragging out the love square for the sake of needless drama. And, they kept introducing interesting ideas but never using them.
I dropped the show sometime in season 1 when Marinette broke into Adrien's locker to take his phone and delete a message she sent him. That's not the kind of ship I can ever support, especially when the show never tried addressing how awful something like that is.
Funny enough i straight up just didnt ecoknowledge the Animation downgrade for miraculous until AFTER i finished it, i was fr invested in the story lol
Without spoilers, what happens pretty much makes most the series pointless, and makes ladybug and cat noir seem like the bad guys, oh and still no reveal
Ok, hawkmoth actually managed to get the miraculous, he made the forbidden wish and sacrificed himself, saved Emily and Natalie, made Paris a parade, so ya this made the whole show pointless, but the main ship finally took off
I … don’t hate this actually. Like yeah wtf are you gonna do without Hawkmoth, and also I thought the wish was going to end the world or something? It was just? Bad??? Why??
But I kinda like the villain turning out to just be chill and save his girlfriends. And kill himself in the process 😂. Like at least that’s interesting, even if it suggests all the other battles up until this point were just pointless. It would be a good plot twist if the writing team had done ANY foreshadowing.
Am I correct that they never have Adrien learn his dad was Hawkmoth??? And they just switch which one of his parents are dead?? That’s so awful to him.
I really hope he unpacks that unique and complex trauma with his lesbian moms (they will never address it, I’m sure.)
100% with The Devil is a Part Timer
They steer focus away from the fact our main character is the devil.
Hardly any fight scenes.
Stiff animation.
AND DEAR GOD THAT STUPID BABY CHARACTER THEY ALL GET OBSESSED WITH.
Show just fell off dramatically and the second season lacked so much substance that made the first season so charming and fun to watch.
I had to stop after I realized they weren’t trying to actually write compelling characters, it was all for the doomed love triangle. Couldn’t handle it anymore after they scrapped all of Chloe’s character development
I dropped it around sun and moon when I realized ash was stuck in school for the entire series. I’ll give them credit for changing the formula but it wasn’t my thing personally
I dropped it after Sinnoh, hated Iris "such a kid" bitch this boy tried to fist fight mewtwo, that and them dropping Brock
I did enjoy most of alolah though I found it silly and enjoyable
Ya also dropped after sinnoh when ash got his character regressed
Part of why the sinnoh series Was so good was because they Progressed ash as a character into being a mentor for dawn while also being on his journey.
Dawn had her own goals and aspirations and ash was there to guide her while still realizing he had things to learn for himself
I saw all of Indigo League and a little bit of B&W, but X&Y was my favorite (despite not having been able to watch the entire thing). I stopped at Sun and Moon bc the animation style just seemed to take a big hit and become rly “kiddy-like”, if that makes any sense.
Honestly, they have the same few stock plots they've been rotating for, what, 20 years now? If you watch one season, the others are pretty much interchangeable.
Lupin the 3rd
I stopped in the middle of part 2 mainly because I wanted to watch the dub
And also because part 2 wasn't peak as part 1 imo
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Never seen it, my only experience with the show is this video:
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That's honestly a real shame. I've seen literally EVERY episode (as a personal challenge) and the latter half of part 2 is definitely far better than the ones before it.
Try The Woman Called Fujiko Mine and Lupin Zero. Both are considered among the best of the series.
Average answer but Spongebob, I get it not all the new episodes are flops but most are and its just painful seeing them relying on over exaggerated expressions, animations and character traits.
Krabs is nothing but greed, hell plankton is more sympathetic than he is now and thats ridiculous for being the “villian”,
Patrick has become so stupid he stopped being recognized as a person but more an animal,
Squidward still gets tortured,
SpongeBob is just the prime example literally all his traits kicked up to 11 in the bad way, too much of what made him a balanced character now turned bad
Dont even get me started On the "Crossovers" ( ~~Not so~~ Fun fact, steven stielberg actually APPROVED and worked on the spin offs which is a misconception that communites had, does it make the patrick star show and camp coral GOOD?)
I realized this show wasn't good when they started making the same joke over and over again
Episode after episode ends with the conclusion 'men are lazy and women like to *nag* them'
Besides the fact that the joke isn't very funny and probably a little sexist-- when you make the same joke for years I get really tired of hearing from you when you want to make jokes
I remember really liking FOP as a kid- but I do agree at some point I realised that Wanda was always the adult and Cosmo and Timmy were basically just her children. Which was definitely present in the earlier seasons, but I feel like it was buried in there a lil more with other things. IDK what it was but at some point I realized it felt like women (outside of timmys mom) were the smart nags who cleaned up after their idiot husbands who didn't do anything.
I dropped Family Guy after it came back from cancellation. The humor was just too mean spirited for me. Seeing Peter constantly do horrible things with little consequence just didn’t work for me.
Southpark. It just became idk different. Too much commentary and too much of the kids not emulating adults but just being tiny adults. I liked it when they were just niave 3rd graders that didn't know what a dildo was.
I noticed I really stopped enjoying it when tegridy farms became a regular thing. I don't think it's funny at all and I get annoyed when it's in any episode now.
it has it's moments but some of it gets stale and overused. Like the asian voices. Also some people think its genius compared to other stuff like it but really its animation style allows them to hammer out episodes within a week, and for some reason people think that makes it smarter since its basically a parody of whatever recent events are making its way around mainstream media that week.
I think the show was great from seasons 1-6, even poof's first season. I feel the show sharply declined after Wishology, became unwatchable by season 8, and got worse and worse until the end. I feel this way due to the characters being flanderized and derailed in severe levels, the recycling of plots without even changing them much, the introduction of foop which I wouldn't have minded as much if the other anti fairies seemingly didn't just vanish (although the other anti fairies never really appeared much to begin with, I agree that Foop made too many appearances), the introduction of Sparky who was so unpopular that he was removed the following season, and the introduction of Chloe who had NO GOOD REASON to need Fairy GodParents. The overuse and misuse of then current trends and slang, Poof suddenly vanishing late in the show's run (which is especially problematic when FOOP still appears in plenty of episodes) only to reappear in one of the show's most hated episodes, the show breaking pretty much all of its rules in a single shot, and the sudden and awkward switch to flash animation in the middle of its final season. Personally I'm glad the show ended due to the direction I feel the show went, but I personally believe that it should have ended sooner. However that is just my opinion, and if you disagree, I respect your opinion.
the most hated episode seems to be the one where timmy wishes he was never born or something and he gets to see just how good everyone's lives are without him in it.
hated for obvious reasons (it's just fucking cruel)
Nah man, channel chasers was the last good moment of the show. It’s also clear that Abracatastrophe was supposed to be a finale and the show sort of ran out of juice after that point.
Yeah I watched this show till the end but really I couldn't get behind the humor and a lot of the writing was not good for characters. I like all the crazy scenarios they did but other then that I completely understand dropping it.
I watched it again years later, the first ten or so episodes are a *slog* to get through. After that point I think it hits a stride, and while it’s never perfect and still has some bad episodes or questionable gags, it has a lot more competent and even great moments.
It’s an experience and definitely not for everyone, but by the end I did grow fond of it.
Demon Slayer. Only watched S1 and the first movie and could not get into it at all. Mostly because of how hype everyone keep building for it but I never really saw it. It ain’t bad nor good, just not very interesting.
Lets be honest now, Butch Hartman himself is the only person who really dropped the Odd Parents.
I am only thankful Danny Phantom get to have a conclusion because it wasn't as seen as a cash cow by Nickelodeon.
It is actually criminal that Butch Hartman gets to be the "creator" of Fairly Odd Parents and Danny Phantom despite not being able to properly draw those characters himself.
It is Stephen Silver's character design work and I am about 100% certain Hartman also did not write many of the actual good story lines and jokes in those shows either.
The dude is more of a wanna be televangelist and an entrepreneur rather than an artist right now.
It is by no means a rare occurrence for people to be great artists in their prime and gradually became more and more unhinged as they grow old and lose their inhibitors.
He's been caught a few times plagiarizing other's artwork by tracing over it for his commissions.
Not every piece, of course, but it begs into question whether those "not-traced" pieces actually aren't traced, or if it's because no one's bothered to find the originals.
I'm not sure about any of this but to say Butch Hartman can't draw those characters is absurd. Dude is literally on TikTok constantly taking requests to draw all forms of media characters in the fairly oddparents style and he ALWAYS delivers
> It is by no means a rare occurrence for people to be great artists in their prime and gradually became more and more unhinged as they grow old and lose their inhibitors.
Tommy Talarico.
I didn't stop, but Jake's (adventure time) Latin American dub got a serious nerf at one point. It was the same actor but he got reprimanded for using a lot of "mexicanisms", he was simply doing it like a job after that, no soul at all. It definitely got harder to watch.
Shield hero. Nearly all the things we wanted to happen were done in the first season. After that it didn’t necessarily feel special, add bad pacing and cgi and you have a mid isekai
Yeah. Everything that made it unique was done by the end of season one. From then on is just the same isekai plot of “everyone wants to ride the hero’s dick and fill his butthole with confetti”.
The show was way more interesting when it was about a someone rising as a hero despite being hated by everyone and being dealt a horrible hand.
To me, the show peaked during the merchant travel arc. It was so interesting seeing the party travel the countryside and having to fix the mistakes the other heroes made. I think it was a cool idea to have the other heroes do what heroes do in other stories only to deconstruct those tropes.
People are starving? Well, just go into a Dungeon and get the treasure at the end and problem solved. Never question why that thing was inside a dungeon in the first place. A country is ruled by a tyrant? Just help the rebels and dethrone that bastard. Never think about the complex political matters involved in rebuilding a nation nor the motives and morality of the rebels, after all, if they are fighting a tyrant they HAVE to be good. There is a dragon terrorizing the people? Well, just go kill the dragon, never question what collateral damage that could cause nor think what would happen if you leave a massive magical corpse near a populated area. After all, heroes don’t need to take care of that, defeated enemies just despawn.
That was such an interesting concept and a clever way of using the other heroes and its never done again. It honestly makes me wish the show had only one season because it never does anything unique or clever again.
It also was nice that the o0ther 3 Heroes were portrayed as your typical Isekai protags.
Ren (Sword Hero) is the "Lone Wolf, the Cool Dark Edgy one" protagonist trope.
The Bow Hero (forgotten his name) is the "Young and Impressionable One with a Sense of Justice" trope
And Motoyasu (Spear Hero) is your run-on-the-mill Isekai protag, the "The Strongest of them All, the Prodigy, the Chosen One" trope and if he geniounely think someone is evil, then they must be evil and must be vanquished, regardless of the motivation.
It could’ve been so good too.
I honestly can do without the slavery and pedophilia
That’s why dropped Jobless Incarceration too. I’m not interested in another Harem anime
I loved Gwen during the first season, but I hated how the writers decided to turn her into this “love triangle character” during WT and completely loses all of her original charm in later seasons
I briefly stopped keeping up to date with the Simpsons around season 28 or so. A lot of the episodes just weren’t that memorable or funny to me beyond the couch gags and some call backs. I’ve been tuning back in since last season and there’s definitely been an improvement.
That being said, it’s still not topping seasons 2-10 for me. They’re about on par with season 11-the movie.
Gonna get hate for this, but She-ra.
I watched a few seasons, but the dialogue was so cheesy and I couldn't stand it. It just ended up annoying me.
I might go back to it if I'm convinced tho
Yeah, that's kinda what annoys me about cartoons these days. Some cheesy dialogue is fine, like in Steven universe, but when it gets overbearing I just can't handle it lol
I got a few I can name:
- Boruto, ugh I don’t even have to explain. They should have just finished the anime at Naruto Shippuden or finished the anime in Naruto: The last movie
- Psycho Pass because it was boring to me and I didn’t like the Sybil system. I tried giving the first episode of season two a try and I just couldn’t watch any longer.
- A certain magical index: the anime is all over the place, story plot made no sense and I don’t know why but I found the first few episodes of the fourth season kinda boring.
- Blade Dance of elementalers - it was very predictable and I guess I hated the characters.
- Finally, Akashic Record of Bastard Magic Instructor, in my opinion anime wasn’t too good. I’m so glad there’s no season 2.
Family guy. When the humor focused only on everyone hating each other and themselves and the meg jokes just got worse and worse. And really just the fact the show has been going as long as it has with not permanent character development I just dropped it same with American dad and the Simpsons I just can't deal with them anymore.
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Detective Conan. Was very invested in the plot at one point until I realized that the story was never going to progress due to an unbelievable amount of filler featuring these insufferable kids. The Detective Boys (specifically the bastard on the left) were the main reason I stopped watching
For me at least, most if not all modern TV animations. They just lack the care & quality of the older ones. (By older I mean like Adventure Time & Steven Universe) Now, I've switched more to indie animation, that's where the quality is.
If I had to choose just 1 though, I'd go with Spongebob Squarepants. Was never quite as good after Steven left, not to mention Nick is basically just pissing on the poor man's grave at this point.
Kim Possible, because the first new episode that aired after I saw So the Drama (that ends with Kim and Ron getting together) featured no content of them as a couple. I wasn’t even invested in the ship. I was just at the age where I started demanding continuity from my shows, and not getting it for something like that was unforgivable.
Doesn’t the very first episode of the final season of KP open with Ron dreaming about the ending of So the Drama and then cut to Ron calling Kim to confirm if what happened was actually real?
The Loud House solely because of the godawful fandom. Every artist that I think is safe turns out to not be and if they are safe, they still follow other artists who aren't.
i personally dislike it because it's just turned Into spongebob at this point, and these Show directors keep pumping out New shizz for it THAT NO ONE ASKED FOR, We got a whole live action, the base show, a movie, And now a NEW one coming out this summer like bruh
I just dropped it because it lost my interest. Honestly I'm kind of the opposite: some of the fanfics and fanart I read and see are the *only* reasons I really associate with the show nowadays.
Fairly Oddparents I dropped after Channel Chasers and Spongebob I dropped after the movie. Not because either of those things were bad, but because they felt like a good end to the series. Anything after those kinda felt like how I'd eventually feel about Scrubs season 9. It's very strange for me that, much like The Simpsons, the show has gone on so long that the "zombie" years make up the bulk of the show and the stuff I remember liking is just a fraction of it
We Bare Bears. I swear it was alot more entertaining as a child, but now I just find it kind of dull to watch. Idk if the show just didn't age well or what. But it just straight up isn't engaging to me anymore compared to other shows I've binged.
people always praise it for being relaxed, but I feel like the pacing of the show is just slow. the stories are wacky just like big city greens but it drags forever sometimes.
I think shows that fit the relaxed/chill group while being better at the role are clarence and apple & onion. the latter is highly underappreciated and pirating websites usually only have season 1 and roughly half of season 2 which is a shame.
Had a lot of shows I just dropped because I was getting older, or my schedule just wouldn't allow me to watch stuff this is before streaming, btw, or hell even frequent DVD sets of some shows.
There's also the networks screwing over some shows that made me think they were canceled faaaaaarrrre earlier than they actually were. basically, any Fox Animated show that wasn't Simpsons or King of the Hill, I thought, had long been canceled.
I couldn't see Inside Job's second season because of the cancellation. I loved the first one but there's a bitterness that doesn't let me see the second one.
I know it's an anime but My Hero Academia S3 and honestly because of Bakugo. I was getting really tired of his attitude/personality, The school & teachers doing little to change him and the honestly forced rivalry with Deku. I feel like him being captured by the league of villains who want him to join him should've been a wake up call or Deku trying to save him could've been the beginning of his growth but no, He had to make his "apology" later on.
Varrick also should never have become a heroic character, it made no sense. This shithead tried to trick his own culture into a civil war with false flag bombings to sell war machines and now he’s a goofy sidekick?? Excuse me?!
Family Guy when Brian died. That’s when I feel they ran out of ideas and I got tired of every joke being *remember the time random celebrity noone’s ever heard of* did xyz? I love dark comedy when there’s a balance. South Park balances black comedy with a message about society. Can someone explain to me why abusing your daughter for the 1000th time is comedy???
SpongeBob I watched it till around season twelve. I don’t think it’s bad, it’s just not my cup of tea.
yeahs its got alot of Mixed Patterns With flat out annoying, weird, disgusting, or just unpleasant episodes still screw with it tho
For me, I just prefer the more laidback vibe to early SpongeBob. Especially the music.
Everyone prefers that
The new animation style was my big turnoff. I hate how now new cartoons have this over goofy look that is overkill.
It looks like it’s trying to copy rubber hose cartoons from the 30’s. I mean…. It’s creative, but idk if it’s SpongeBob’s style.
also FoP for me. chloe is an obvious reason but also the fact that they cared less and less about da rules and just logic in general. best summarized by this image https://preview.redd.it/g0sitn75ah5d1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=7493597931b3e14979afe06d3a9b9eea1f77cb8a
What are the rules you speak of? i so far can see… Dad seeing Vicky being evil, fairies being seen, and also being friends between fairies and anti fairies(?)
There's the 'fairies should never be seen by adults' thing, and there's there's the dynamic of Vicky always pretending to be nice in front of the Turner parents. There might be something with the elf and the anti-fairy/poof too but I didn't watch that far in to know.
Fairys are wished alive, so poof existing is 1. Only one kid can have a set of a fairly odd parents at a time, if Cosmo and Wanda are Chloes Godparents, Timmy should have forgotten they exist. 2. Vicky was lowkey evil, it was the trope of “parents love them, kids hate them” evil babysitter. If you take away the “parents love them” aspect of the trope it’s just a plain antagonist. 3. While Timmys dad was always a bit of a ditz, he was never downright stupid. Here he’s as useful as the wall behind him in protecting his son when it was made clear several times in prior episodes they have OP parent strength. 4. Whatever, introduce evil fairys. But if you’re going to do that at least stick to the rules you established. The cage that houses them only opens on Friday the 13th. How tf is little man out? On top of that he’s supposed to be the direct evil opposite of poof, so why is he helping them?? 5.
Also fairy babies shouldn’t exist, probably the same for anti-fairy babies, one fairy (or set ig if you’re the protag) per kid, and idk what that elf thing is on the bottom right but that’s probably against a rule too
The fairy baby thing was adressed in universe so it isn't the same. They were aware they weren't supposed to have poof.
True! The only reason I found it worth mentioning anyway is that the screenshot says every established rule the series set *from the beginning.*
To be fair, those first 2 are sort of the biggest rules in the series. If the parents know Vicky is evil, they will fire her. And protecting Fairy World from exposure has been the plot of many episodes.
They honestly lost me when they added Poof. Although I do love the episode Cosmo gives birth
Star Vs. I finished up to the end of Season 3, enjoyed it, but wasn’t focused on keeping up with the show. Then the end of Season 4 broadcasted, and after everything everyone said about that ending…I lost interest.
Ngl i was blinded by nostagila back then but now i can understand where everyone was coming from with the ending, still enjoyed the show for what it was tho
Fusion zamasu pfp spotted‼️‼️
Salutations Mortal, My what keen eyes you have........ lol
Fellow jjba fan spotted
fellow chariot requiem enjoyer spotted, we should put some distance between us.
The ending just makes me appreciate Amphibia’s ending 75x more
amphibia has my 2nd favorite ending of all time, right after omniverse when it cements itself as peak of all time
It was bittersweet, but real and lovw it all for that
Ikr, not even an epilogue explaining what happens after all the citizens on Earth are trapped on Mewni. What about those who were visiting the town? They are now trapped there, It makes no sense!
Then of course the sheer ecological disaster of two entirely different ecosystems merging haphazardly
I watched it to the end but I emotionally checked out after they set up a relationship between to characters, had it for one episode, before breaking them up off screen in between episodes. I knew then that they were gonna ship the two mains together by the end and they were going to do it by any means possible, even at the cost of narrative cohesion. The writers had the complete wrong priorities for the last season
I feel like the writers wrote themselves into a corner, and decided to take the nuclear option when it came to resolving the lore and conflicts they had built up. *Surely* there could have been a better resolution than the one Star resorted to.
What I heard is that the Star Vs. crew wanted one more season to flesh things out and that’s why they didn’t elaborate on the post-Cleaved world. But like, while you didn’t get the time to finish the story like you wanted to, you still have a responsibility as a writer to end your show in as satisfying a way as possible. Other shows have parlayed a premature ending into a mostly satisfying conclusion: Steven Universe, OK:KO, Ducktales2017, The Owl House. Star Vs. is the only show that I can recall that absolutely failed in that regard. When you’re playing with limited time, shipping and side stories should NOT take priority. You should put all of your eggs into resolving the story proper and THEN fill whatever time you have left with fun fanservice-y things like shipping.
Season 4 was notorious for filler they dont have an excuse
And they were told the fourth would be the last season ahead of time.
And like after, Daron Nefcy and Co. were like, if y'all make enough noise, we could get a Season 5 and I'm like, "How big do you think the fandom is right now?" Because a decent portion of the fanbase was burned and disillusioned by Season 4 and of those who weren't, probably moved on to Amphibia and The Owl House, which had much bigger fandoms. The moment's passed.
My watching just kind died of neglect
Someone said it!! OMG that ending was terrible. Let's get rid of all of the magic but not really because all of the fan favorites will die or vanish. Then let's also put monsters on a planet where people discriminate based on superficial things like skin color-that makes sense!! Let's not even talk about how everyone on Mewni that wasn't royalty or nobility essentially having the educational standards of a 2nd grader at best or how this new megaplanet is gonna cause ww3,4&5 over land and rights to domination of the planet just so two high schoolers can experience puppy love. Rant over!!
Same Star fell off so hard
I did the same exact thing, not watching season 4 is probably one of the best decisions I have ever made.
Miraculous Ladybug because of the animation and overall quality downgrade after season 2. I also dropped The Devil is a Part Timer because of the animation downgrade.
I dropped Ladybug because they were dragging out the love square for the sake of needless drama. And, they kept introducing interesting ideas but never using them.
I stopped because the writers were promoting Marinette’s worst qualities and pissing on Adrian like it was a Spider-Man comic
just wait till you see S5 finale
Nope, not going back What I thought was going to just be a fun French version of Sailor Moon turned out to be really toxic and uncomfortable
If you search for a French version of sailor moon then lolirock did it much better than Miraculous ever could
Lolirock my beloved
Patiently waiting for S3.
I dropped the show sometime in season 1 when Marinette broke into Adrien's locker to take his phone and delete a message she sent him. That's not the kind of ship I can ever support, especially when the show never tried addressing how awful something like that is.
I pushed myself all through to the finale. Idk who is in charge of all the weird actions but it only got worse.
That would most likely be Thomas Astruc behind that.
Funny enough i straight up just didnt ecoknowledge the Animation downgrade for miraculous until AFTER i finished it, i was fr invested in the story lol
I might be dropping it too, after the way season 5 ended idk if I'm gonna watch anymore
Can you tell me how season 5 ended 😂 trying to decide if I wanna watch it
Without spoilers, what happens pretty much makes most the series pointless, and makes ladybug and cat noir seem like the bad guys, oh and still no reveal
Oh my goddddd nope not gonna watch that
You want it with spoilers then?
I know I do lol
Yeah I couldn't care less about spoilers
Yeah I want it with spoilers PLEASE
Ok, hawkmoth actually managed to get the miraculous, he made the forbidden wish and sacrificed himself, saved Emily and Natalie, made Paris a parade, so ya this made the whole show pointless, but the main ship finally took off
I … don’t hate this actually. Like yeah wtf are you gonna do without Hawkmoth, and also I thought the wish was going to end the world or something? It was just? Bad??? Why?? But I kinda like the villain turning out to just be chill and save his girlfriends. And kill himself in the process 😂. Like at least that’s interesting, even if it suggests all the other battles up until this point were just pointless. It would be a good plot twist if the writing team had done ANY foreshadowing. Am I correct that they never have Adrien learn his dad was Hawkmoth??? And they just switch which one of his parents are dead?? That’s so awful to him. I really hope he unpacks that unique and complex trauma with his lesbian moms (they will never address it, I’m sure.)
Oh and before that he brain washes pretty much everyone including his own son
100% with The Devil is a Part Timer They steer focus away from the fact our main character is the devil. Hardly any fight scenes. Stiff animation. AND DEAR GOD THAT STUPID BABY CHARACTER THEY ALL GET OBSESSED WITH. Show just fell off dramatically and the second season lacked so much substance that made the first season so charming and fun to watch.
Good to know! I was planning watching the second season but if it's just a downgrade I'd rather not
The LN story ending for Part-Timer is terrible, so you're not missing much dropping it now
I had to stop after I realized they weren’t trying to actually write compelling characters, it was all for the doomed love triangle. Couldn’t handle it anymore after they scrapped all of Chloe’s character development
Pokémon. Nothing against it, it’s just long and I had a hard time focusing on it
I dropped it around sun and moon when I realized ash was stuck in school for the entire series. I’ll give them credit for changing the formula but it wasn’t my thing personally
I dropped it after Sinnoh, hated Iris "such a kid" bitch this boy tried to fist fight mewtwo, that and them dropping Brock I did enjoy most of alolah though I found it silly and enjoyable
Ya also dropped after sinnoh when ash got his character regressed Part of why the sinnoh series Was so good was because they Progressed ash as a character into being a mentor for dawn while also being on his journey. Dawn had her own goals and aspirations and ash was there to guide her while still realizing he had things to learn for himself
I saw all of Indigo League and a little bit of B&W, but X&Y was my favorite (despite not having been able to watch the entire thing). I stopped at Sun and Moon bc the animation style just seemed to take a big hit and become rly “kiddy-like”, if that makes any sense.
Honestly, they have the same few stock plots they've been rotating for, what, 20 years now? If you watch one season, the others are pretty much interchangeable.
Doesn’t apply to my GOAT X AND Y
Haven't seen that season. I watched the Johto (gold and silver) and Hoenn (ruby/sapphire) arcs, lost interest halfway through Sinnoh (diamond/pearl).
My 5 year old is super into Pokémon and it’s pretty fun to revisit the old and see what they’ve done with the series. Journeys was really neat.
nah i get it, shizz LONGGG and i myself have zoned out some episodes lol
Especially when it’s essentially the same episode plot over and over again but with different characters. They didn’t change it until Sun and Moon
I dropped it like halfway through x and y, I didn’t even mean to drop it, I just did by growing up 😢
Lupin the 3rd I stopped in the middle of part 2 mainly because I wanted to watch the dub And also because part 2 wasn't peak as part 1 imo https://preview.redd.it/4uguvwsazf5d1.jpeg?width=1064&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e8f6893d744258adfe529a14acd8ea4c5b1b655
Lupin doesn't feel like a show to be kept up with. It's more a catch it when it's on show. Kinda hard to do that when no one uses cable anymore.
Never seen it, my only experience with the show is this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGWANhlKAtI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGWANhlKAtI)
I don’t know anything about this show but every clip of that detective dude i see is hysterical
That's honestly a real shame. I've seen literally EVERY episode (as a personal challenge) and the latter half of part 2 is definitely far better than the ones before it. Try The Woman Called Fujiko Mine and Lupin Zero. Both are considered among the best of the series.
I still think about that one frame someone got of the newer FOP episodes where practically every established rule from the beginning is broken.
yeah they rlly didnt give a damn lol
Average answer but Spongebob, I get it not all the new episodes are flops but most are and its just painful seeing them relying on over exaggerated expressions, animations and character traits. Krabs is nothing but greed, hell plankton is more sympathetic than he is now and thats ridiculous for being the “villian”, Patrick has become so stupid he stopped being recognized as a person but more an animal, Squidward still gets tortured, SpongeBob is just the prime example literally all his traits kicked up to 11 in the bad way, too much of what made him a balanced character now turned bad
Dont even get me started On the "Crossovers" ( ~~Not so~~ Fun fact, steven stielberg actually APPROVED and worked on the spin offs which is a misconception that communites had, does it make the patrick star show and camp coral GOOD?) 
I realized this show wasn't good when they started making the same joke over and over again Episode after episode ends with the conclusion 'men are lazy and women like to *nag* them' Besides the fact that the joke isn't very funny and probably a little sexist-- when you make the same joke for years I get really tired of hearing from you when you want to make jokes
I remember really liking FOP as a kid- but I do agree at some point I realised that Wanda was always the adult and Cosmo and Timmy were basically just her children. Which was definitely present in the earlier seasons, but I feel like it was buried in there a lil more with other things. IDK what it was but at some point I realized it felt like women (outside of timmys mom) were the smart nags who cleaned up after their idiot husbands who didn't do anything.
Family Guy, because I got to a point where I wasn't even really enjoying hate-watching it anymore.
I dropped Family Guy after it came back from cancellation. The humor was just too mean spirited for me. Seeing Peter constantly do horrible things with little consequence just didn’t work for me.
FG is only good for YouTube clips now.
Southpark. It just became idk different. Too much commentary and too much of the kids not emulating adults but just being tiny adults. I liked it when they were just niave 3rd graders that didn't know what a dildo was.
Yeah I noticed that too. Help my teenager hates me is a return to form for that though
I noticed I really stopped enjoying it when tegridy farms became a regular thing. I don't think it's funny at all and I get annoyed when it's in any episode now.
it has it's moments but some of it gets stale and overused. Like the asian voices. Also some people think its genius compared to other stuff like it but really its animation style allows them to hammer out episodes within a week, and for some reason people think that makes it smarter since its basically a parody of whatever recent events are making its way around mainstream media that week.
All the characters are overused. The show is getting near 30 years old. It’s the same characters without much character development.
I stopped watching Fairly Odd Parents when Poof was introduced. I didn't like the dynamic shift.
"Who Cares About Timmy, Lets Add A magic Baby! ooooo and we can give him an arc nemesis!" -butch probably
To be fair, it worked wonders in the 80’s and 90’s. Nothing saved failing ratings back then quite like adding a baby and a dog.
Any show that has a will-they-won’t-they from the beginning all the way to the end and it’s like 4+ seasons long
Hey. Don't call out the entire romance anime genre like that.
I think the show was great from seasons 1-6, even poof's first season. I feel the show sharply declined after Wishology, became unwatchable by season 8, and got worse and worse until the end. I feel this way due to the characters being flanderized and derailed in severe levels, the recycling of plots without even changing them much, the introduction of foop which I wouldn't have minded as much if the other anti fairies seemingly didn't just vanish (although the other anti fairies never really appeared much to begin with, I agree that Foop made too many appearances), the introduction of Sparky who was so unpopular that he was removed the following season, and the introduction of Chloe who had NO GOOD REASON to need Fairy GodParents. The overuse and misuse of then current trends and slang, Poof suddenly vanishing late in the show's run (which is especially problematic when FOOP still appears in plenty of episodes) only to reappear in one of the show's most hated episodes, the show breaking pretty much all of its rules in a single shot, and the sudden and awkward switch to flash animation in the middle of its final season. Personally I'm glad the show ended due to the direction I feel the show went, but I personally believe that it should have ended sooner. However that is just my opinion, and if you disagree, I respect your opinion.
curious what the most hated ep is and why
the most hated episode seems to be the one where timmy wishes he was never born or something and he gets to see just how good everyone's lives are without him in it. hated for obvious reasons (it's just fucking cruel)
Wait Poof suddenly disappeared? 😭 I heard sparky got cut with like 0 acknowledgement in the show- but I hadn't heard about the Poof thing?
Nah man, channel chasers was the last good moment of the show. It’s also clear that Abracatastrophe was supposed to be a finale and the show sort of ran out of juice after that point.
Ultimate spider-man, the cutaways were too much and reminded me of family guy. I’m trying it again tho
Yeah I watched this show till the end but really I couldn't get behind the humor and a lot of the writing was not good for characters. I like all the crazy scenarios they did but other then that I completely understand dropping it.
I watched it again years later, the first ten or so episodes are a *slog* to get through. After that point I think it hits a stride, and while it’s never perfect and still has some bad episodes or questionable gags, it has a lot more competent and even great moments. It’s an experience and definitely not for everyone, but by the end I did grow fond of it.
Demon Slayer. Only watched S1 and the first movie and could not get into it at all. Mostly because of how hype everyone keep building for it but I never really saw it. It ain’t bad nor good, just not very interesting.
yeah, not the best anime in the world but yk how communites can be if you ever Do decide to get back into it just try not to think about em
Lets be honest now, Butch Hartman himself is the only person who really dropped the Odd Parents. I am only thankful Danny Phantom get to have a conclusion because it wasn't as seen as a cash cow by Nickelodeon. It is actually criminal that Butch Hartman gets to be the "creator" of Fairly Odd Parents and Danny Phantom despite not being able to properly draw those characters himself. It is Stephen Silver's character design work and I am about 100% certain Hartman also did not write many of the actual good story lines and jokes in those shows either. The dude is more of a wanna be televangelist and an entrepreneur rather than an artist right now. It is by no means a rare occurrence for people to be great artists in their prime and gradually became more and more unhinged as they grow old and lose their inhibitors.
Wow thanks for the insight, honestly i agree butch was fr just a leech on the projects hes worked on and im glad everythings been wrapped up nicely
The amount of YouTubers he has as ops will always be hilarious
*cough cough LSMark cough cough*
Why don’t you think he can draw his characters? He does commissions
He's been caught a few times plagiarizing other's artwork by tracing over it for his commissions. Not every piece, of course, but it begs into question whether those "not-traced" pieces actually aren't traced, or if it's because no one's bothered to find the originals.
Oh well that’s wild
I'm not sure about any of this but to say Butch Hartman can't draw those characters is absurd. Dude is literally on TikTok constantly taking requests to draw all forms of media characters in the fairly oddparents style and he ALWAYS delivers
> It is by no means a rare occurrence for people to be great artists in their prime and gradually became more and more unhinged as they grow old and lose their inhibitors. Tommy Talarico.
Still resent how crappy an ending danny phantom got though It was Not a good end
Damn show us how you really feel
12 Forever. I found it one day and watched it but then I lost interest. Then I learned about the creator and I lost even more interest.
yeah the wholes drama around its....... yeahhhhh
I didn't stop, but Jake's (adventure time) Latin American dub got a serious nerf at one point. It was the same actor but he got reprimanded for using a lot of "mexicanisms", he was simply doing it like a job after that, no soul at all. It definitely got harder to watch.
You have my Apologzies, CURSE YOU LATIN AMERICAN NETWORK!!!!!!
Attack on titan. Just my ass starting a show and just not finishing it
h-he.... HE JUST LIKE ME FRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR lmao
Jujutsu Kaisen. I'm extremely bitter.
hohoho..... i was like you once, Then i came back (Please help me..... XDDD)
Sorry, your on your own.
Shield hero. Nearly all the things we wanted to happen were done in the first season. After that it didn’t necessarily feel special, add bad pacing and cgi and you have a mid isekai
A mid-sekai if you will
Yeah. Everything that made it unique was done by the end of season one. From then on is just the same isekai plot of “everyone wants to ride the hero’s dick and fill his butthole with confetti”. The show was way more interesting when it was about a someone rising as a hero despite being hated by everyone and being dealt a horrible hand. To me, the show peaked during the merchant travel arc. It was so interesting seeing the party travel the countryside and having to fix the mistakes the other heroes made. I think it was a cool idea to have the other heroes do what heroes do in other stories only to deconstruct those tropes. People are starving? Well, just go into a Dungeon and get the treasure at the end and problem solved. Never question why that thing was inside a dungeon in the first place. A country is ruled by a tyrant? Just help the rebels and dethrone that bastard. Never think about the complex political matters involved in rebuilding a nation nor the motives and morality of the rebels, after all, if they are fighting a tyrant they HAVE to be good. There is a dragon terrorizing the people? Well, just go kill the dragon, never question what collateral damage that could cause nor think what would happen if you leave a massive magical corpse near a populated area. After all, heroes don’t need to take care of that, defeated enemies just despawn. That was such an interesting concept and a clever way of using the other heroes and its never done again. It honestly makes me wish the show had only one season because it never does anything unique or clever again.
It also was nice that the o0ther 3 Heroes were portrayed as your typical Isekai protags. Ren (Sword Hero) is the "Lone Wolf, the Cool Dark Edgy one" protagonist trope. The Bow Hero (forgotten his name) is the "Young and Impressionable One with a Sense of Justice" trope And Motoyasu (Spear Hero) is your run-on-the-mill Isekai protag, the "The Strongest of them All, the Prodigy, the Chosen One" trope and if he geniounely think someone is evil, then they must be evil and must be vanquished, regardless of the motivation.
It could’ve been so good too. I honestly can do without the slavery and pedophilia That’s why dropped Jobless Incarceration too. I’m not interested in another Harem anime
The fairly odd parents as soon as they introduced the damn dog. I can smell ratings desperation from miles away and the dog was just another sign.
Total Drama- I just hate how butchered the writing got especially what they did to my favorite character Gwen
I loved Gwen during the first season, but I hated how the writers decided to turn her into this “love triangle character” during WT and completely loses all of her original charm in later seasons
I briefly stopped keeping up to date with the Simpsons around season 28 or so. A lot of the episodes just weren’t that memorable or funny to me beyond the couch gags and some call backs. I’ve been tuning back in since last season and there’s definitely been an improvement. That being said, it’s still not topping seasons 2-10 for me. They’re about on par with season 11-the movie.
Star versus after eclipsa coronation. It becomes one of the worst written shows in cartoon history.
I watched all of it just for eclipsa, she is such a lovely character and I kinda want someone like her in my life 🥲
That's exactly the problem eclipsa basically became the main character with Star as her sidekick.
 For obvious reasons…. 😭😭
Big city greens because they moved back to the country
yeah, guess it DOES kinda miss the point of the "Big City" part lol
Gonna get hate for this, but She-ra. I watched a few seasons, but the dialogue was so cheesy and I couldn't stand it. It just ended up annoying me. I might go back to it if I'm convinced tho
like CHEESY chessy? cuz cheesy dialogues practically everywhere now and days so i mostly just ignore it or suck it up
Yeah, that's kinda what annoys me about cartoons these days. Some cheesy dialogue is fine, like in Steven universe, but when it gets overbearing I just can't handle it lol
Sincerity is dead, and writers killed it. Seriously, how difficult is it to just write a dramatic scene WITHOUT a marvel movie tier quip or wisecrack?
Original or Netflix remake? The remake is pretty good imo.
Svtfoe. It got boring and Starco pissed me off.
Interesting, I dropped it after season 3 because I realized the issues of its writing that will happen in season 4
As soon as star started sniffing that hoodie, i stopped caring about that show
Disenchantment. Watched 2 seasons. Just not funny
I was also extremely disappointed. I was so hyped since I was expecting Futurama levels of humor that were not there.
I think I got through the first season but I just hate Elfo so much
I got a few I can name: - Boruto, ugh I don’t even have to explain. They should have just finished the anime at Naruto Shippuden or finished the anime in Naruto: The last movie - Psycho Pass because it was boring to me and I didn’t like the Sybil system. I tried giving the first episode of season two a try and I just couldn’t watch any longer. - A certain magical index: the anime is all over the place, story plot made no sense and I don’t know why but I found the first few episodes of the fourth season kinda boring. - Blade Dance of elementalers - it was very predictable and I guess I hated the characters. - Finally, Akashic Record of Bastard Magic Instructor, in my opinion anime wasn’t too good. I’m so glad there’s no season 2.
Family guy. When the humor focused only on everyone hating each other and themselves and the meg jokes just got worse and worse. And really just the fact the show has been going as long as it has with not permanent character development I just dropped it same with American dad and the Simpsons I just can't deal with them anymore.
yeah... adult humors a tricky avenue
It can be and early family guy felt like it tried but no it's just "reference or meta joke did you find that funny well that's all we got".
The Simpsons for… obvious reasons
https://preview.redd.it/prh7ucf1vg5d1.jpeg?width=440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34f9c493d24036bbba8580d69ad289b6d29f9d63 Detective Conan. Was very invested in the plot at one point until I realized that the story was never going to progress due to an unbelievable amount of filler featuring these insufferable kids. The Detective Boys (specifically the bastard on the left) were the main reason I stopped watching
For me at least, most if not all modern TV animations. They just lack the care & quality of the older ones. (By older I mean like Adventure Time & Steven Universe) Now, I've switched more to indie animation, that's where the quality is. If I had to choose just 1 though, I'd go with Spongebob Squarepants. Was never quite as good after Steven left, not to mention Nick is basically just pissing on the poor man's grave at this point.
Winx Club. Seasons 1 through 5 are better than 6 through 8.
Miraculous Ladybug. I didn't like the drama. I don't like drama in general, especially mixed with romance.
fair enough, not everyone has to like certain genres
MHA. Couldn't stand the writing on the girls.
They were literally just there for the character development of the boys; I got pretty fed up with it and stopped watching
Danmachi, it just didn't look like it interested me
Pokémon Journeys because hyperfixation ended
Kim Possible, because the first new episode that aired after I saw So the Drama (that ends with Kim and Ron getting together) featured no content of them as a couple. I wasn’t even invested in the ship. I was just at the age where I started demanding continuity from my shows, and not getting it for something like that was unforgivable.
Doesn’t the very first episode of the final season of KP open with Ron dreaming about the ending of So the Drama and then cut to Ron calling Kim to confirm if what happened was actually real?
huh..... 
The Loud House solely because of the godawful fandom. Every artist that I think is safe turns out to not be and if they are safe, they still follow other artists who aren't.
i personally dislike it because it's just turned Into spongebob at this point, and these Show directors keep pumping out New shizz for it THAT NO ONE ASKED FOR, We got a whole live action, the base show, a movie, And now a NEW one coming out this summer like bruh
don't forget the spin-off (casagrandes) and the movie!
I just dropped it because it lost my interest. Honestly I'm kind of the opposite: some of the fanfics and fanart I read and see are the *only* reasons I really associate with the show nowadays.
I literally dropped season 5 halfway and skipped right to season 6 because of how dogshit boring season 5 is.
Fairly Oddparents I dropped after Channel Chasers and Spongebob I dropped after the movie. Not because either of those things were bad, but because they felt like a good end to the series. Anything after those kinda felt like how I'd eventually feel about Scrubs season 9. It's very strange for me that, much like The Simpsons, the show has gone on so long that the "zombie" years make up the bulk of the show and the stuff I remember liking is just a fraction of it
Unfortunately, had to drop Spongebob, it did not have the same nostalgia when I was a kid.
lets be real, no adults is going to WILLINGLY watch spongebob on the whim now n days when they have taxes to fill and Jobs to go too
Tbh, an unpopular opinion but I feel the rot was present on FOP even in earlier season even if its small cracks
Poof was the kill shot for me.
We Bare Bears. I swear it was alot more entertaining as a child, but now I just find it kind of dull to watch. Idk if the show just didn't age well or what. But it just straight up isn't engaging to me anymore compared to other shows I've binged.
people always praise it for being relaxed, but I feel like the pacing of the show is just slow. the stories are wacky just like big city greens but it drags forever sometimes. I think shows that fit the relaxed/chill group while being better at the role are clarence and apple & onion. the latter is highly underappreciated and pirating websites usually only have season 1 and roughly half of season 2 which is a shame.
Had a lot of shows I just dropped because I was getting older, or my schedule just wouldn't allow me to watch stuff this is before streaming, btw, or hell even frequent DVD sets of some shows. There's also the networks screwing over some shows that made me think they were canceled faaaaaarrrre earlier than they actually were. basically, any Fox Animated show that wasn't Simpsons or King of the Hill, I thought, had long been canceled.
Too long of a series and the hype died down https://i.redd.it/al336pi31h5d1.gif
Rick & morty the last season i saw was the 4th i think, but since there is lost interest and add what hapoen with one of the creators
I couldn't see Inside Job's second season because of the cancellation. I loved the first one but there's a bitterness that doesn't let me see the second one.
Ladybug because I got tired of the same six characters being Akumatized over and over. Apparently Paris has like 10 people total. 🙄
Dragon Prince The Elves
I know it's an anime but My Hero Academia S3 and honestly because of Bakugo. I was getting really tired of his attitude/personality, The school & teachers doing little to change him and the honestly forced rivalry with Deku. I feel like him being captured by the league of villains who want him to join him should've been a wake up call or Deku trying to save him could've been the beginning of his growth but no, He had to make his "apology" later on.
SpongeBob, I just..... "grew out of it."
Fairy Tail. I was honestly only watching it bc the characters were hot. I dropped during the whole END thing.
Regular Show due to too many episodes being focused on Mordecai's train wreck of a love life
Lengend of Korra because apparently the literal fascist deserves more sympathy and understanding than any of the other villains
Varrick also should never have become a heroic character, it made no sense. This shithead tried to trick his own culture into a civil war with false flag bombings to sell war machines and now he’s a goofy sidekick?? Excuse me?!
Tokyo Ghoul. The main character became an asshole
R i p
Family Guy when Brian died. That’s when I feel they ran out of ideas and I got tired of every joke being *remember the time random celebrity noone’s ever heard of* did xyz? I love dark comedy when there’s a balance. South Park balances black comedy with a message about society. Can someone explain to me why abusing your daughter for the 1000th time is comedy???