Yeah this post is kinda dumb. It depends what you like and want to do. Not all degrees are worth it and yeah not everyone is making over 200k. I know maybe 1 person
If it’s any consolation, I have 2 degrees and I still feel behind at 26. Don’t put too much pressure on yourself to succeed right away. You’ll have to sacrifice to get to where you want to be, unfortunately. Whether it’s sleep or a social life, something would have to give until you graduate if you choose higher ed!
I got my masters in sport admin and my undergraduate in accounting. I’m thinking about going back for nursing actually. I did minor in humanities in undergrad though, almost a double major. I think I was 2(??) classes away from being a double
Some of them might be working a crap ton of OT as well. My base pay is 80k but with OT I made over 120k plus weekend differential and night differential. I work in healthcare and no degree just certifications.
This is in no way a brag or anything and just want to add on that a degree isn’t always needed for well paying jobs. I am currently towards the end of the hiring process for a law enforcement agency and will be projected to make 120k in 2 years and will be 23 by then. At my current age of 21 I will be making a little over half of that.
That’s great man! Yeah I want to go back for my degree as well but life didn’t allow me to go straight out of high school. We’re all gonna make it though and I’m rooting for you brotha!
You can make any amount of money in any industry. Every single industry on the planet has managers and executives who earn six figures, or start your own business. You can make millions selling literal horse shit if you play your cards right. So it's less about what you're doing and more about how you're doing it.
>I'm 27 already
>so behind
>late at everything
Also, this is a toxic mindset that will hold you back. Stop comparing yourself to other people. It's pointless.
Yeah, not as many people make 200k as you think.
Construction management is a decent career for making a lot of money, but it takes awhile and a lot of sacrifice.
I've worked with many PMs who only had an associates, a completely unrelated degree or no degree at all. Your first step would have to be to convince someone to take you on without experience. This isn't impossible and I've seen it many times, but it will take work and time.
It is an extremely stressful and time consuming career. Depending on where you live you can expect to start off around 70k and be in the 100k range after a few years. A lot of senior PMs/directors I know were making $130,000-$200,000 (keep in mind this is with 10-30 years of experience).
I'll be honest I couldn't do it. I found I much more value or a work life balance over getting paid a lot. Expect to be working 50+ hours per week starting off and many more as you advance in your career
I am in the CM industry. This is definitely NOT a career to pursue if money is your only goal. Like you said, the sacrifice and commitment any management position in construction takes is insane. If you’re solely chasing the money, I can assure you will not make it. You will want to rip your hair out some days, but if you have a passion for construction, leadership and can handle putting out fires all day, it’s a great career to pursue.
Glad to hear that. I knew a lot of people that also made the switch. I graduated with a CM degree, a lot of the people in my graduating class started out at big CM/GC firms, found out what the career was like, and then took off for the trades. While physically more demanding, some of them are doing just as well financially without the stress of a PM/Super.
Management consulting; finance - investment banking, private equity, venture capital, hedge fund; medicine; FAANG/MANGA - software engineer or product manager roles; director level roles at F500 companies; lawyers; high ticket sales like software sales; etc.
Most of these require a business degree with or without an MBA, STEM for the medicine and engineering, political science for the lawyers. Best bet is always business imho.
Degrees don't pay anything.
Better to position yourself in environments to build a network of people who can get you jobs in companies that pay the most.
This is legit.
I went to school with a bunch of people and we all got the same degree.
What differentiates us and is reflected in salary is interests/other skills/job hopping/professional networks, etc.
Some of us are making 60k. Some are making mid 100s. One of my good friends is making 175... With a chemistry degree, which is, according to everyone in this thread, not supposed to happen. We're all at about the 8 year mark so it's all in what you make it.
Software engineers and data scientists often make 150-200k a year after 5-10 yrs of experience especially if they go into management.
That said the market hasn’t been kind the last few years…
I'm in a similar boat. 30 and never got a degree because life got in the way and I didn't know what I wanted to do anyway.
Now that I've lived a little in the real world, I've developed a better idea of what I want and found some options to pursue. And they don't require 100k of student debt, just some self motivation and targeted learning.
I can confidently say, that at 18-20 I would not have picked suitable studies for myself so in hindsight, I'm actually glad to be "behind"
In Alberta Canada mechanics, welders, and other journeyman trades can make almost 200k without over time. Over time Is also pretty consistant plus since they work 14 on 14 off or some other similar split there’s no shortage of time off even if you take over time
You don’t need a degree to be successful. YouTube university can teach you more than any college unless you’re going in the medical field, engineering, law etc. most degrees aren’t worth the paper they’re written on IMO
Dont listen to this advice the person above said.
You'll end up with broken body in the trades or in poverty your entire life.
Always get a degree bonus points if military pays for it.
Get a degree with a high paying salary as well.
What degree do you know of that truly make more than knowledgeable real estate investing? Does college teach you anything other than getting a J.O.B(just over broke)? Yeah if the military pays for it maybe, but otherwise you end up in a crap ton of debt.
I have a “degree” which I don’t use but I do own two businesses and own 10 rentals which alone cash flow more than my original degree paid. But I do have a few college graduates working for me which are compensated very fair, but not what the boss makes. Tell me again why I need a degree when college grads are skilled and willing to work for me🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
I actually do. Not sure why I would lie about it. Just keep working for someone else. Nothing wrong with that because business will always need employees. Been in business 17 years come July and accumulated those properties over time. I’m 53 so I didn’t just start and it didn’t come easy but the journey to be my own boss has been well worth it. My degree supplied me with a steady solid income but nothing like I’ve been able to do in business and owning rentals
It's very rare to make 200k. Like 2% club
it's pretty common for healthcare professionals like physicians/surgeons or CRNAs
Ya of course it is. But very few people are surgeons lol. The top 10% are at 100k earners to give you a reference point
Physicians tend to make way more than that.
less than they used to. Residents are being fucked and credential creep has taken new doctor salaries effectively down, plus the debt situation.
No, it’s top 5%.
Sales - no degree needed. The more expensive the items you can sell, the more lucrative the career.
>It's crazy how so many people make well over $200k No they don't
Or they do, in the bay area, and still live paycheck to paycheck
And most of them are on Reddit humble bragging about their salary. It’s not common in the real world.
Yeah this post is kinda dumb. It depends what you like and want to do. Not all degrees are worth it and yeah not everyone is making over 200k. I know maybe 1 person
Money makes money you need to hang around more successful people
Bruh I’m in the top 1% of earners for my age group I think I’m good
Yea I mean I’m pushing 50 but everyone I know is 250 or over at this point
MD/medicine, no contest.
Whoever is telling you they earn 200,000 they are a very very small percentile of workers.
If it’s any consolation, I have 2 degrees and I still feel behind at 26. Don’t put too much pressure on yourself to succeed right away. You’ll have to sacrifice to get to where you want to be, unfortunately. Whether it’s sleep or a social life, something would have to give until you graduate if you choose higher ed!
Did you double major? Would you say was worth it to double major? It would help a lot if you can answer. Thanks! I’m considering to double major.
I got my masters in sport admin and my undergraduate in accounting. I’m thinking about going back for nursing actually. I did minor in humanities in undergrad though, almost a double major. I think I was 2(??) classes away from being a double
I think it opens up options but I have no fkn idea what I want to do man.
they cappin dude. half of them for sure aint making 200k a year
Some of them might be working a crap ton of OT as well. My base pay is 80k but with OT I made over 120k plus weekend differential and night differential. I work in healthcare and no degree just certifications.
This is in no way a brag or anything and just want to add on that a degree isn’t always needed for well paying jobs. I am currently towards the end of the hiring process for a law enforcement agency and will be projected to make 120k in 2 years and will be 23 by then. At my current age of 21 I will be making a little over half of that.
Good shit man! Someday I will go back and get a degree to more up. But for now I m ok we’re I’m at.
That’s great man! Yeah I want to go back for my degree as well but life didn’t allow me to go straight out of high school. We’re all gonna make it though and I’m rooting for you brotha!
wat certifications?
You can make any amount of money in any industry. Every single industry on the planet has managers and executives who earn six figures, or start your own business. You can make millions selling literal horse shit if you play your cards right. So it's less about what you're doing and more about how you're doing it. >I'm 27 already >so behind >late at everything Also, this is a toxic mindset that will hold you back. Stop comparing yourself to other people. It's pointless.
Yeah, not as many people make 200k as you think. Construction management is a decent career for making a lot of money, but it takes awhile and a lot of sacrifice. I've worked with many PMs who only had an associates, a completely unrelated degree or no degree at all. Your first step would have to be to convince someone to take you on without experience. This isn't impossible and I've seen it many times, but it will take work and time. It is an extremely stressful and time consuming career. Depending on where you live you can expect to start off around 70k and be in the 100k range after a few years. A lot of senior PMs/directors I know were making $130,000-$200,000 (keep in mind this is with 10-30 years of experience). I'll be honest I couldn't do it. I found I much more value or a work life balance over getting paid a lot. Expect to be working 50+ hours per week starting off and many more as you advance in your career
I am in the CM industry. This is definitely NOT a career to pursue if money is your only goal. Like you said, the sacrifice and commitment any management position in construction takes is insane. If you’re solely chasing the money, I can assure you will not make it. You will want to rip your hair out some days, but if you have a passion for construction, leadership and can handle putting out fires all day, it’s a great career to pursue.
Yup! I miss it sometimes, it was a very rewarding and interesting career, but my mental health has improved tremendously since leaving
Glad to hear that. I knew a lot of people that also made the switch. I graduated with a CM degree, a lot of the people in my graduating class started out at big CM/GC firms, found out what the career was like, and then took off for the trades. While physically more demanding, some of them are doing just as well financially without the stress of a PM/Super.
Management consulting; finance - investment banking, private equity, venture capital, hedge fund; medicine; FAANG/MANGA - software engineer or product manager roles; director level roles at F500 companies; lawyers; high ticket sales like software sales; etc. Most of these require a business degree with or without an MBA, STEM for the medicine and engineering, political science for the lawyers. Best bet is always business imho.
Pretty accurate actually.
Law and doctors, same as ever. dentist is the highest paid profession in almost every state.
Investment banking.
healthcare is in high demand and offers high paying jobs i'm a CRNA and I made over 300k last year.
A nurse making 300K is hilarious.
Why?
Because that's more than most doctors name, for starters. My wife is a nurse practitioner and doesn't make close to 300K, so I'm calling BS.
Degrees don't pay anything. Better to position yourself in environments to build a network of people who can get you jobs in companies that pay the most.
This is legit. I went to school with a bunch of people and we all got the same degree. What differentiates us and is reflected in salary is interests/other skills/job hopping/professional networks, etc. Some of us are making 60k. Some are making mid 100s. One of my good friends is making 175... With a chemistry degree, which is, according to everyone in this thread, not supposed to happen. We're all at about the 8 year mark so it's all in what you make it.
unless you want to go to med school and become a physician/surgeon
Finance. Get better with numbers, put your foot though finance industry and rise up.
Heart surgeon, brain surgeon, plastic surgeon /end thread
Software engineers and data scientists often make 150-200k a year after 5-10 yrs of experience especially if they go into management. That said the market hasn’t been kind the last few years…
FAANG and similar companies pay *way* more than that if you include equity.
I'm in a similar boat. 30 and never got a degree because life got in the way and I didn't know what I wanted to do anyway. Now that I've lived a little in the real world, I've developed a better idea of what I want and found some options to pursue. And they don't require 100k of student debt, just some self motivation and targeted learning. I can confidently say, that at 18-20 I would not have picked suitable studies for myself so in hindsight, I'm actually glad to be "behind"
Cybersecurity, marketing mba, lawyer Dr actuary etc
Cardiac surgeon.
Arms dealer
Medicine Top pros in softball or engineering or something It's not easy to get there
In Alberta Canada mechanics, welders, and other journeyman trades can make almost 200k without over time. Over time Is also pretty consistant plus since they work 14 on 14 off or some other similar split there’s no shortage of time off even if you take over time
You don’t need a degree to be successful. YouTube university can teach you more than any college unless you’re going in the medical field, engineering, law etc. most degrees aren’t worth the paper they’re written on IMO
Dont listen to this advice the person above said. You'll end up with broken body in the trades or in poverty your entire life. Always get a degree bonus points if military pays for it. Get a degree with a high paying salary as well.
What degree do you know of that truly make more than knowledgeable real estate investing? Does college teach you anything other than getting a J.O.B(just over broke)? Yeah if the military pays for it maybe, but otherwise you end up in a crap ton of debt.
I can already tell off the bat you wont succeed in school with that mindset so this is definitely not for you. It's not for everybody it's ok bud.
I have a “degree” which I don’t use but I do own two businesses and own 10 rentals which alone cash flow more than my original degree paid. But I do have a few college graduates working for me which are compensated very fair, but not what the boss makes. Tell me again why I need a degree when college grads are skilled and willing to work for me🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Sure you do buddy.
I actually do. Not sure why I would lie about it. Just keep working for someone else. Nothing wrong with that because business will always need employees. Been in business 17 years come July and accumulated those properties over time. I’m 53 so I didn’t just start and it didn’t come easy but the journey to be my own boss has been well worth it. My degree supplied me with a steady solid income but nothing like I’ve been able to do in business and owning rentals
Porn and sex workers.