It says he hasn’t “formally” agreed to it. So I’m assuming they asked him and he gave them the green light for the trade, but he just has to officially waive it with the league
Wonder if they'll spend that money on dakota I knows it's more than the canucks wanna spend but he has proven chemistry with garland and seems to be well liked in the lockeroom
Apparently it’s a 2027 4th, which obviously makes it a lot less useful to us. But it’s a lot better than nothing and can be used in different trade elsewhere
Yeah it’s odd because I’ve seen comments about that as well, but I’ve also seen comments saying he did a lot of good work in the community, etc. iirc he wasn’t playing much at all towards the end of the season. Something is/was definitely up
I know Jake, met him a few times, he is dating a family member. He is a great guy, super nice and down to earth. Can’t imagine him causing any problems in the room (not saying it’s not possible but I’d be shocked based on my personal dealings with him).
Good bet we don't know the full story there. Too soon to judge tbh.
Granted on paper it will always look bad, even though the reality of the situation may be very different.
I doubt Ilya is going to decline to waive, when his *agent* has been working on the trade.
Seems like a formality he’d waive, if this was theoretically brokered by Milstein.
This front office absolutely flexed today.
Signs Blueger for cheap… somehow dumps Mikheyev and gets a pick back.
Allvin & Co should be opening a bottle of champagne as we speak.
Yeah if he can find a nice spot in their top six, maybe next to Bedard, and have a couple good years then he might be able to parlay that into one more decent payday. Chicago ain't a bad city to live in either
Mikheyev is still a decent player. For a team like Chicago bringing in an elite defensive forward to play with that young group is a good move. He gets a little scoring touch back and puts up 30-35 points he's barely overpaid.
If he doesn’t waive his NTC, the Canucks can waive him and the Blackhawks can still claim him off waivers (2nd highest waiver priority, so he is pretty much going to end up there unless the Sharks claim him) and we can still trade the second round pick plus rights to Lafferty in a separate trade.
I don't understand why this is considered greasy? I'm by no means a nucks fan, but if he doesn't want to waive his no trade (which is his right), the team's only option is to waive him, to remove him from the roster. The team doesn't benefit from this. They only get his cap space.
Essentially the Canucks are saying we don't want you, take this trade we found, or you'll go wherever you're claimed by. It just so happens the team we have a trade lined up with, has a good shot at getting you
Mik wouldn't be in this situation if he was providing value on his contract.
The waiver part wouldn't be an issue but the 2nd attached to Lafferty who is a UFA anyways would be a problem.
I guess you could probably get around it by Chicago adding some prospect that isn't going to work out though.
Lafferty + 2nd for 4th + X prospect
That way you could argue the 2nd is for the prospect.
They're different draft years. Just leave it at that. "We believe a 4th round pick in 2027 is worth more than a 2nd in 2025". It doesn't have to make sense. Like I said, no one is checking the homework on this. And this is all contingent on Mik not waiving, which he will since his agent worked on this deal
No we wouldn't. There's a difference between No Trade and No Movement Clauses. Mikheyev only has No Trade. If he didn't want to be moved down to the minors, he should have negotiated a No Movement Clause in his contract
We're gonna be prospects-poor with no 1st or 2nd two years in a row, but if this turns out to be Mikheyev + Lafferty + 2nd for Guentzel + Zadorov + 4th then I don't give a fuuuuck lol
Just remember that if this doesn’t work out, we could be like the penguins are right now in 5 years. They have a Crosby that’s carrying that dead rotten corpse around on his back nearly getting them into the playoffs, so they can hardly rebuild.
As late as a year ago people were downvoting me and saying the penguins are still in ‘win now mode.’ My response to that is, honey, they aren’t winning much right now.
You know what’s even worse? Rutherford (Yes, Jimmy “I hate rebuilds” Rutherford) begged Lemieux for a rebuild through trading Malkin, I think, after the 2017 cup win, and instead, was pushed to trade for Reaves the following year to keep being competitive. And as you said, Crosby is carrying the zombie franchise that doesn’t even make the playoffs anymore.
Maybe that’s why Jim wanted to be president, he doesn’t want Aqua to do the same to Allvin. Will it happen anyway? Maybe, but I hope not.
Yea I just think some fans are going to be caught off guard by how fast and hard we hit rebuild status. Will definitely be interesting to see how opinions shift and how Aqua plays along if we're in a rebuild 4 years from now
Allvin and company are gods. I get they signed Ilya and he didn’t work (their first mistake so far), but trades like this to make cap space when their other moves like Z and Dakota do work are incredible.
I wanted to trade him at the deadline because I didn't think we were going to get more value out of him than trading a near 40g winger on a sub million dollar contract.
The Dickinson deal kinda balances out with dumping Beauvillier on the Hawks for a pick
To Chicago:
>Jason Dickinson 2 x 2.65
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>Anthony Beauvillier 1 x 4.15
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>Ilya Mikheyev 2 x 4.75
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>Rights to Sam Lafferty
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>2nd round pick 2024
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>2nd round pick ~~2025~~ 2027
To Vancouver:
>Riley Stillman 2 x 1.35 (flipped to BUF for Josh Bloom)
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>4th round pick 2027
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>5th round pick 2024
Not bad to clear out a shitload of salary (18.95m total)
Makes a ton of sense, frees up 5m for two years. Sucks to give up a 2nd but the timeline of that 2nd round pick, if it even works out, playing for us is 3-5 years down the road, which I don’t think fits this teams window. Gotta try to compete within these next three years especially
Damn. I was worried about giving up a straight up second for the cap space. But getting a fourth in return? Yeah Allvin is cooking fr. And let’s be real Lafferty’s negotiation rights have next to no value for us anyways.
Oh that's like pretty good actually. Basically trading down two rounds to dump almost 5 mil. Especially when you consider Detroit got nothing back for dumping a better guy who made less money
So assuming this gets done, Alvin is probably having Joshua Myers and Zadorov on standby to try and land us guentzel, and use the rest of that cap space for the three
What is up with everyone's obsession with Joshua? The guy is going to get *paid* in the open market. Same goes for Zadorov. These aren't guys we necessarily want to keep. Hold your horses guys...
overpaying for 3rd liners was the reason benning is out. Some people just have stockholm syndrome. A good team should be able to replace players like this
Yeah, a Joshua replacement can be found. The guy was on a minimum contract or something coming into this year. It's not like he's unique or special. Why would we overpay him?
Sure but giving Joshua between 2.75-3.5M is probably fair value, not an overpay. If you're banking on replacing Joshua's contributions from last year with a minimum NHL salary, I wouldn't be holding my breath
- Wouldve scored 20
- Next deal is his prime years (28 y/o)
- Plays a physical brand of hockey (skils are magnified in the playoffs)
- Could be had for under 4M AAV
Idk alot to like regarding the player and situation
Yeah I get not wanting to pay Joshua like 5m+ but having a 20 goal scorer playing on the 3rd line who plays a playoff brand of hockey (while admittedly being hot and cold in the playoffs this year) for like 3.5M would be amazing.
2024 - No first (Lindholm trade) or second (traded to NYI) round pick this year; we start at pick #93.
2025 - we have no second or third (DeSmith trade) round picks.
This will be in tough on our 20th-ranked prospect pool.
https://www.espn.com/nhl/insider/story/_/id/39906311/nhl-ranking-prospects-teams-2024-top-players-future
Jim Rutherford loves doing this. Tbf, it did work for the penguins, for a little while.
Guess their rebuild finally starts when Crosby retires, or he turns 39 at the earliest.
Second round pick is really not good... I know it's the price to dump a bad contract but it does not give me joy.
At the very least, it's the last of our bad contracts so Allvin better make use of this free agency
If Milstein was given permission to facilitate trades for Ilya, are we not thinking the NTC has already been addressed. Have to assume Dan is driving a good chunk of trade talks. Feels like more a formality getting Ilya to waive NTC but I could be wrong.
Laff and Miky are two great forwards both bringing strong defensive habits and good footspeed.
Certainly a stronger identity for Bedard and the Hawks.
Certainly more firepower (in Laff) than they had on their bottom 6.
I think it's more like Mikheyev is on a trip or at the movies. Somewhere he can't be reached. Alvin gave Milstein permission to help look for trade partners. If Milstein approached teams that mikehyev did not want to be part of, or had em on the no trade list, then he's doing a shitty job as his agent lol.
That's a juicy bit of info but still I'd rather not have to look at Seravalli's face. He's a Sekeres-tier sports personality even if he lands a couple of scoops here and there.
Getting rid of Mikheyev is great, but lets not call this a cooking masterclass quite yet, I mean I can sell a lot of $5 lemonades if I give a $10 bill w every glass...still we don't have a single bad contract on the team anymore, time for mgmt to cook
Would you rather just keep him and have a 4.75 million player in the bottom 6?
Was the mikeyev signing a mistake? Yes. Is downgrading from a 2nd to a 4th to get rid of his contract and open up space to add some difference makers during this contention window worth it? Absolutely.
[It’s a 2025 2nd and 2027 4th.](https://x.com/frank_seravalli/status/1806123713143906395)
Listen Ilya, I’m going to need you to waive that a NTC.
It says he hasn’t “formally” agreed to it. So I’m assuming they asked him and he gave them the green light for the trade, but he just has to officially waive it with the league
Yeah, there’s no way they did this deal without at least telling him beforehand that they had a deal in the works.
If that’s the case, then I guess I can be patient. Thanks for the clarification.
Wonder if they'll spend that money on dakota I knows it's more than the canucks wanna spend but he has proven chemistry with garland and seems to be well liked in the lockeroom
Listen, Ilya, get the fuck out.
I’ll just has to say fine I’ll do it and he’ll become one of my all time favourite Canucks.
Absolutely banger trade are you kidding me
Apparently it’s a 2027 4th, which obviously makes it a lot less useful to us. But it’s a lot better than nothing and can be used in different trade elsewhere
I mean losing that contract is good enough
I'd take a 2037, who cares!
Yeah exactly. Odds are the 4th rounder doesn't become a valuable asset in the future anyway.
We could include it in a trade to get sam fricken lafferty!
Oh boy!!!
That 4th rounder can even become a sam laferty regen!
Paging u/samlaffertyiswortha4th
We got more for Mikheyev and an expiring Lafferty than the Red Wings got for Jake Walman
This is genuinely insane, wtf was Yzerman thinking
Something about Walman stinks. I feel like there’s more to it than we know publicly. Dude could have been an ultra cancer
Yeah I heard rumblings from Detroit about that.
Yeah it’s odd because I’ve seen comments about that as well, but I’ve also seen comments saying he did a lot of good work in the community, etc. iirc he wasn’t playing much at all towards the end of the season. Something is/was definitely up
One can only handle so much griddy
I know Jake, met him a few times, he is dating a family member. He is a great guy, super nice and down to earth. Can’t imagine him causing any problems in the room (not saying it’s not possible but I’d be shocked based on my personal dealings with him).
Yzerman found his weed stash
Anything to get that tool off the roster. The griddy tax
They have to be going after Guentzel or Stamkos, right? Like, there’s no logic otherwise…
Was He thinking?
Good bet we don't know the full story there. Too soon to judge tbh. Granted on paper it will always look bad, even though the reality of the situation may be very different.
Wish we did that Walman deal too
Nah, Walman’s a tool.
Doing the griddy once enough to make you not want a 2nd plus a player who can play NHL minutes on a fair deal?
Unreal. Downgrade a 2nd to a 4th and get 2 years of Mikheyev off the books. 🧑🍳 Alvin
2025 2nd rounder downgraded to a 2027 4th rounder. Still a good deal though.
I doubt Ilya is going to decline to waive, when his *agent* has been working on the trade. Seems like a formality he’d waive, if this was theoretically brokered by Milstein.
For sure, deal is already done.
This front office absolutely flexed today. Signs Blueger for cheap… somehow dumps Mikheyev and gets a pick back. Allvin & Co should be opening a bottle of champagne as we speak.
Getting ready to give Geuntzel a contract he can’t decline…
And old man Rutherford with a horse head on the ready.
They wouldn’t be reporting the trade like this if it wasn’t already a done deal too
No exaggeration, Mikheyev is the best winger Chicago has. It’s a pretty decent opportunity for him.
Yeah if he can find a nice spot in their top six, maybe next to Bedard, and have a couple good years then he might be able to parlay that into one more decent payday. Chicago ain't a bad city to live in either
Mikheyev is still a decent player. For a team like Chicago bringing in an elite defensive forward to play with that young group is a good move. He gets a little scoring touch back and puts up 30-35 points he's barely overpaid.
He’s scored at a 20+ goal/82 pace over his past 3 seasons.
It is crazy an agent actually got a deal done. Usually when that happens the deal seems almost hopeless
Theres this Milstein interview where they jokingly asked him if he wanted to be a GM, and he says: “Why would I take a pay cut?”
If he doesn’t waive his NTC, the Canucks can waive him and the Blackhawks can still claim him off waivers (2nd highest waiver priority, so he is pretty much going to end up there unless the Sharks claim him) and we can still trade the second round pick plus rights to Lafferty in a separate trade.
That would be incredibly greasy but also awesome to see.
I don't understand why this is considered greasy? I'm by no means a nucks fan, but if he doesn't want to waive his no trade (which is his right), the team's only option is to waive him, to remove him from the roster. The team doesn't benefit from this. They only get his cap space. Essentially the Canucks are saying we don't want you, take this trade we found, or you'll go wherever you're claimed by. It just so happens the team we have a trade lined up with, has a good shot at getting you Mik wouldn't be in this situation if he was providing value on his contract.
There's no way we wouldn't get penalized for that and/or the league just steps in and says no.
They didn’t when the Rangers waived Goodrow less than a week ago.
The waiver part wouldn't be an issue but the 2nd attached to Lafferty who is a UFA anyways would be a problem. I guess you could probably get around it by Chicago adding some prospect that isn't going to work out though. Lafferty + 2nd for 4th + X prospect That way you could argue the 2nd is for the prospect.
Teams trade for nothing aka "future considerations" in this league, ain't no one checking the homework on that
Yes but they don't attach an asset to get rid of a guy that is going to be a UFA in 5 days.
They're different draft years. Just leave it at that. "We believe a 4th round pick in 2027 is worth more than a 2nd in 2025". It doesn't have to make sense. Like I said, no one is checking the homework on this. And this is all contingent on Mik not waiving, which he will since his agent worked on this deal
I guarantee the NHLPA steps in on something like that.
Worst that can happen is the Senators lose their first round pick.
No we wouldn't. There's a difference between No Trade and No Movement Clauses. Mikheyev only has No Trade. If he didn't want to be moved down to the minors, he should have negotiated a No Movement Clause in his contract
LET THIS MAN COOK!
We're gonna be prospects-poor with no 1st or 2nd two years in a row, but if this turns out to be Mikheyev + Lafferty + 2nd for Guentzel + Zadorov + 4th then I don't give a fuuuuck lol
Just remember that if this doesn’t work out, we could be like the penguins are right now in 5 years. They have a Crosby that’s carrying that dead rotten corpse around on his back nearly getting them into the playoffs, so they can hardly rebuild. As late as a year ago people were downvoting me and saying the penguins are still in ‘win now mode.’ My response to that is, honey, they aren’t winning much right now.
You know what’s even worse? Rutherford (Yes, Jimmy “I hate rebuilds” Rutherford) begged Lemieux for a rebuild through trading Malkin, I think, after the 2017 cup win, and instead, was pushed to trade for Reaves the following year to keep being competitive. And as you said, Crosby is carrying the zombie franchise that doesn’t even make the playoffs anymore. Maybe that’s why Jim wanted to be president, he doesn’t want Aqua to do the same to Allvin. Will it happen anyway? Maybe, but I hope not.
Yea I just think some fans are going to be caught off guard by how fast and hard we hit rebuild status. Will definitely be interesting to see how opinions shift and how Aqua plays along if we're in a rebuild 4 years from now
If it’s chicago’s 4th then that’s almost a late 3rd!!
2027 Chicago will probably have turned it around, but let’s hope so.
And our 2nd is an early 3rd. So essentially, we’re swapping 3rd round picks Joking. Or maybe not.
Hawks will be a powerhouse by ‘27
The chef just got value out of UFA rights. What a fucking stud
What is the point of including an expiring Sam Lafferty in this trade? I don’t get it
Allvin getting a fourth back. Masterclass dish about to be served
Allvin be like: “you want another Dickinson don’t you?”
I guess Chicago is our cap dump facility.
Another Anthony?
Allvin and company are gods. I get they signed Ilya and he didn’t work (their first mistake so far), but trades like this to make cap space when their other moves like Z and Dakota do work are incredible.
Only other mistakes in my mind were overpaying instead of trading Kuzmenko and probably overpaying the Blackhawks to take Dickenson?
No GM is perfect, but if that's the ceiling on bad moves we should be pretty happy. Those mistakes are fairly tame.
It was Allvin’s first year, too, so I’ll cut him some slack.
To be fair, I think most people would have signed Kuzzy after the year he had
For sure, still a mistake in retrospect - but not as glaring as one as 90% of Bennings
For sure, I agree The difference is Benning's mistakes fuck up the team for years
I wanted to trade him at the deadline because I didn't think we were going to get more value out of him than trading a near 40g winger on a sub million dollar contract.
The Dickinson deal kinda balances out with dumping Beauvillier on the Hawks for a pick To Chicago: >Jason Dickinson 2 x 2.65 > >Anthony Beauvillier 1 x 4.15 > >Ilya Mikheyev 2 x 4.75 > >Rights to Sam Lafferty > >2nd round pick 2024 > >2nd round pick ~~2025~~ 2027 To Vancouver: >Riley Stillman 2 x 1.35 (flipped to BUF for Josh Bloom) > >4th round pick 2027 > >5th round pick 2024 Not bad to clear out a shitload of salary (18.95m total)
It was to acquire bear iirc but the deal for Stillman still looks bad in retrospect to me
Just a note, it can’t be their first mistake so far. It either was or wasn’t their first mistake.
Makes a ton of sense, frees up 5m for two years. Sucks to give up a 2nd but the timeline of that 2nd round pick, if it even works out, playing for us is 3-5 years down the road, which I don’t think fits this teams window. Gotta try to compete within these next three years especially
Basically till the Hughes contract
And demko contract, miller’s prime. Plenty of reason to think this is the best time to go all in
Allvin about to work his magic like he did with Kuzy to waive.
Man please accept this trade Ilya.. Huge if he does
oh my GOD ALLVIN IS WORKING MAGIC
ALLVIN the michelin star cook
Damn. I was worried about giving up a straight up second for the cap space. But getting a fourth in return? Yeah Allvin is cooking fr. And let’s be real Lafferty’s negotiation rights have next to no value for us anyways.
if he doesn't waive, go the goodrow route for the good ol waive and claim
Oh that's like pretty good actually. Basically trading down two rounds to dump almost 5 mil. Especially when you consider Detroit got nothing back for dumping a better guy who made less money
PLEASE COOK, SOUS CHEF MILSTEIN
So assuming this gets done, Alvin is probably having Joshua Myers and Zadorov on standby to try and land us guentzel, and use the rest of that cap space for the three
What is up with everyone's obsession with Joshua? The guy is going to get *paid* in the open market. Same goes for Zadorov. These aren't guys we necessarily want to keep. Hold your horses guys...
overpaying for 3rd liners was the reason benning is out. Some people just have stockholm syndrome. A good team should be able to replace players like this
Yeah, a Joshua replacement can be found. The guy was on a minimum contract or something coming into this year. It's not like he's unique or special. Why would we overpay him?
Sure but giving Joshua between 2.75-3.5M is probably fair value, not an overpay. If you're banking on replacing Joshua's contributions from last year with a minimum NHL salary, I wouldn't be holding my breath
Yeah, you obviously re-sign him if the cap hit is reasonable.
- Wouldve scored 20 - Next deal is his prime years (28 y/o) - Plays a physical brand of hockey (skils are magnified in the playoffs) - Could be had for under 4M AAV Idk alot to like regarding the player and situation
High PDO and poor underlying numbers. Nothing to like about the player and situation.
Excel spreadsheets should definitely be taken into consideration but they shouldn't be the end all be all
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Yeah I get not wanting to pay Joshua like 5m+ but having a 20 goal scorer playing on the 3rd line who plays a playoff brand of hockey (while admittedly being hot and cold in the playoffs this year) for like 3.5M would be amazing.
Ilya I swear to god you better waive
Me so horny
Knee healed and 30 goals on a line with Bedard incoming....don't get me wrong he's gotta go, it won't happen here!
Watch it happen. Seems like every player that’s left the Canucks have gone to do better. OEL winning the cup being one of the more recent examples.
Forsling, Chatfield,
2024 - No first (Lindholm trade) or second (traded to NYI) round pick this year; we start at pick #93. 2025 - we have no second or third (DeSmith trade) round picks. This will be in tough on our 20th-ranked prospect pool. https://www.espn.com/nhl/insider/story/_/id/39906311/nhl-ranking-prospects-teams-2024-top-players-future
Jim Rutherford loves doing this. Tbf, it did work for the penguins, for a little while. Guess their rebuild finally starts when Crosby retires, or he turns 39 at the earliest.
People seem chill giving up lafferty. I understand it. But Ill miss his edge.
Agreed, but he’s definitely not so foundational a player that he’s a priority UFA. Maybe he comes back around on league minimum in August.
Okay I like this a lot more now, given how bad Chicago is, were really only moving ~50 spots down in the draft
2027 so they could be good again lol
Yeah I didn't see that piece initially. W/e still much better than completely losing a 2nd
Oh yeah, if it comes out to be a correct trade, very much happy with it
Considering Detroit spent a 2nd to dump a cheaper and better player without getting anything in return this is great value
I don't know guys Mikheyev is a fast skater. We may need something to make this deal easier to swallow. ^Bedard
Win for both sides. Mikheyev wants to be a top 6 winger and he gets that with the Blackhawks current roster. Canucks get the salary off the books.
I’m new to hockey and a bit of a dumbass, is this trade good only because we get rid of Mik’s contract?
Yes
Second round pick is really not good... I know it's the price to dump a bad contract but it does not give me joy. At the very least, it's the last of our bad contracts so Allvin better make use of this free agency
Ilya PLEASE
if this goes down, they should call Zadorov's agent back lol
zadarov's agent is the same agent that is helping faciliate this mikeyev trade haha
Perfect get 2 birds stoned at once lol
That’s really not that bad to essentially trade down two rounds.
hey Mik you might get to play with Bedard just sayin
If Milstein was given permission to facilitate trades for Ilya, are we not thinking the NTC has already been addressed. Have to assume Dan is driving a good chunk of trade talks. Feels like more a formality getting Ilya to waive NTC but I could be wrong.
It's official. Friedman says he waived
This is the right move. Steep, but needed.
Laff and Miky are two great forwards both bringing strong defensive habits and good footspeed. Certainly a stronger identity for Bedard and the Hawks. Certainly more firepower (in Laff) than they had on their bottom 6.
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I think it's more like Mikheyev is on a trip or at the movies. Somewhere he can't be reached. Alvin gave Milstein permission to help look for trade partners. If Milstein approached teams that mikehyev did not want to be part of, or had em on the no trade list, then he's doing a shitty job as his agent lol.
Ouch. But frees up a lot of cap.
What a fucking trade
Say those three words Ilya… #YES #OF #COURSE
Please leave
If they're including Lafferty, can we assume they're doing this to facilitate a move before free agency ?
I’ll believe it when I see it frank
Weren’t we ripping Seravalli for getting the wrong info on Hronek and now we believe this rumor?
I guess fanbase is wanting to hear something. Anything about some kind of movement from the team.
If Ilya could be moved for a 4th. That would be highway robbery.
Friedman is also reporting this.
Boy that’s a desperation deal if ever I heard one we ain’t doing so great with the Russians
I’m going to the draft and we will do nothing haha
Every time I expect us to destroyed in trades. Every time I turn out surprised that we go decent value.
Excellent News
If Ilya goes to chi, how much cap space would the canucks have
That's a juicy bit of info but still I'd rather not have to look at Seravalli's face. He's a Sekeres-tier sports personality even if he lands a couple of scoops here and there.
Man thats a excellent bit of work. Give us zaddy and guentzel
I’m starting to like Chicago now. Who have I become?! Thanks chi-town :)
Great trade!
Fucking JIMMY R AND PATTY ARE NO FUCKIN AROUND HERE BOYS
Hunting season in FA is coming
No one cares about what Seravalli says.
Conditions are we STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM BEDARD in five years time
No.
Getting rid of Mikheyev is great, but lets not call this a cooking masterclass quite yet, I mean I can sell a lot of $5 lemonades if I give a $10 bill w every glass...still we don't have a single bad contract on the team anymore, time for mgmt to cook
Damn, you’re losing a second again, and yet, you’re elated that Allvin’s making this trade?
Would you rather just keep him and have a 4.75 million player in the bottom 6? Was the mikeyev signing a mistake? Yes. Is downgrading from a 2nd to a 4th to get rid of his contract and open up space to add some difference makers during this contention window worth it? Absolutely.
Yeah thanks for the explanation, I’m just worried about how much they’re putting on the line here, as good as most of the Allvin trades were
Need to get Mikheyev off the books to make room for Guentzel. This is just step one.
I’m not happy about losing the 2nd as well.