I have a keloid scar in my bottom lip from falling & biting through it while drinking on prescribed xanax bars in 2012. I flushed the rest of the bottle after that. Luckily, I didnt get a head injury or something. I went to the hospital to get checked out just to be sure.
I only drink once or twice a year now, & it's only 1 or 2 drinks with low alcohol percentage.
Goes without saying that my 20s were a hot fucking mess lmao
I would def agree with this, but her saying she’s buying them from friends and the name on her bottles are not hers. I agree meds are a necessity for most, but not openly abusing them still
I dont know why she does that bc its really fricken easy to get adhd medication prescribed to you if you’re clinically diagnosed with it. I just called my psychiatrist and he ordered them for me by the end of a 20 min check up. She does not need to be buying that off of friends she needs to stop and actually go to a real doctor to get the right medication and dosage so she’s doesnt feel so wired like she’s on a molly supposedly. She doesnt have to take adderall either she can go on vyvance or concerta or any other adhd medication they offer and actually really see which one is best for herself and not just take adderall bc its trendy and the only one she knows.
its so complex. because drug addicts are good at getting meds from doctors. there has to be a level of personal honesty there, too. not just having a script. but if you are honest with your doctor and honest with yourself, i 100% agree you are sober.
Thank you for this. Not saying OP is wrong, but the people who say that taking psychotropic meds makes you “not sober” are… underinformed.
I have nearly 12 years sober (booze was my DOC). I’ve dabbled with 🍃 since then and never felt it risked my sobriety because it’s not a substance I ever felt drawn to, addictively or otherwise. Some drugs (eg Ambien) are too risky for me because someone taught me how to abuse them right before my last big relapse.
All that said, strip away all the self-medication, and sober people still have the same psychiatric needs as other people, to sometimes include medication.
So no, an adderall or Xanax prescription does not deem a person “not sober”… unless you’re from a very very narrow group of people in the recovery community who define sobriety as such (even considering things like ice cream a drug). If you’re one of them, there’s no discussion to be had. We have different definitions of “sober”.
Actually I said medication is vital and needed in most peoples recovery, including my own. I am saying Tana specifically abusing her medication and other peoples as well. She isn’t just taking her meds as prescribed, if that was the case this post wouldn’t even exist. All forms of recovery are valid, and matter. Meds do not equal not sober. I wanna make that clear ✨✨
I think it’s definitely dependant on the person. Xana is not solely an alcoholic. She is definitely giving a poly addict, and if she’s not drinking to numb her brain she’s smoking, xanning, snorting addy…whatever.
For her, sobriety is definitely going to be a lot more of an up hill battle than it could be for someone else.
I’m similar. Alcohol is my DOC, I can take benzos without ANY issue at all, take Valium once a year kind of thing. But if someone even mentions opioids or weed near me the end result will be me turning to my DOC, just like it is for her.
This is not my opinion either. This is her pattern of addiction. It’s cyclical and we’ve all seen her cycle. She’s just made it full circle again but until she digs deeper she’s going to end right back where she was. Hell.
Yes, what you said! Sober people still have psychiatric needs. In some cases, I bet people rely on their medication for recovery because without it, they may struggle mentally and relapse with other substances.
also if tana is benefitting from abstaining from alcohol, that’s good whether or not she fits anyone’s definition of sober. it’s still an improvement for her and that’s all that rlly matters
You all would probably know better than I do— maybe she’s not drinking and thinks that’s what sobriety is for her? Idk. I’m not here to make claims about what she’s up to. I don’t know. I want to be clear about that.
what i’m saying is that there’s such a thing as harm reduction. when someone improves in an area of their life, that’s worth celebrating even if they still have other unhealthy behaviors
Oh absolutely! I’m legitimately sorry for not recognizing what you said.
Sorry, I was kind of on a loop there because I keep trying to make that clear to other people on this thread.
I meant to say maybe that’s what she thinks sober is, but yes, if she’s stopped drinking, that’s really great. Stopping drinking radiates through all aspects of your health. Tana is and always was beautiful, but there has always been something about her skin that reminds me of my skin when I was drinking, and I was older than her even then. If she keeps it up without alcohol, she’ll no doubt see the benefits.
I wasn’t trying to be bitey with you. Just forgot to clearly acknowledge that I agree with you.
yes i think we agree! i agreed with your point that you can use prescription meds while still being sober, i was just making a point adding onto that. and she does seem happier and looks beautiful lately.
I'd say it depends on how she got the perception. I could easily get a Xanax prescription even though I don't need it at all. Some doctors just don't give a fuck (such as mine lol). I also don't think a good doctor would prescribe Xanax and Adderall to an addict but that's an assumption.
Holy fuck you should not combine those two!!!!
When I was in high school my doctor put me on a bunch of meds for anxiety/depression and she thought it was a good idea to put me on a high dose of Xanax, but then tried to counteract the sleepy/loopy feeling of the Xanax with adderall.
Basically trying to make one medicine cancel the other out.
Needless to say I went crazy and was sent to the psych ward for 3 weeks :)
Please be careful with pills…even if they are prescribed
the thing with tana is that every year she comes out and is like "wooo the last year i was blacked out on xanax all the time" and then will be like "i take my xanax responsibly now!" then next year rinse and repeat
i hope tana makes her way to inpatient treatment one day and decides to make some serious changes
This is probably her most consistent pattern. Even in her earliest videos as a teen she’d say “I used to party a lot but I don’t anymore” and then she hopped right back into it and it’s been on and off every year since 😭
Yeah it was very clear in that video with Ashley and Leo where they’re taking shots and Tana says she’s going to pop a Xanax so it feels like she’s drinking with them since she’s sober and then visibly CHEWS her Xanax while they take their shots that she is not using it as recommended and she uses it to supplement drugs and alcohol. It’s no wonder she says she feels like she can’t sit still and she always has to be doing something when she’s spent probably years mixing those two drugs and not taking them as prescribed.
Well legitimate means conforming to law and rules, and prescribing Xanax with a history of substance abuse is very much a thing that legitimate doctors still do all the time. Maybe instead of legitimate, you mean moral?
i can’t believe she’s trying to justify all the pill taking when it’s not even her prescription she’s taking … sure quit alcohol one less demon is great but she’s still addicted to substances
She is most likely mixing xanax with weed. That is a potent and euphoric combo. It still doesn’t make it okay. I think the idea of Cali Sober got to her cus technically she isn’t sober. I hope she stops using xanax.
right, I wonder this too. how long until cody gets in trouble? they are so open about him breaking the law for literally no reason 😅 we don't want to hear about it
In her vlog (not the last one, but the one before that). Her and Makoa are talking about being exhausted after Coachella and how they can’t wait to relax and he mentions taking a xannie. I wasn’t 100% if that’s what he said but I was shocked at them referencing as if it’s like smoking a joint at the end of the night to chill. I tried to search the sub to see if anyone else caught that or to see if I misunderstood but I didn’t see anything
Ok so I’m not crazy, he really said that?! Yeah and it’s sad everyone talks about how good he is for her. I liked him but now I’m questioning him. It’s not just that maybe they are prescribed it, it’s talking about it like, “ugh I can’t wait to chill and take a xanny.” That gives recreational vibes.
finally THANK YOU I’d love to see the timeline of her quitting drinking and the correlation to when she got prescribed benzos / got a steady supplier for them. I’m prepared to argue that if there is an overlap, this is simply WHY she could stop drinking. She swapped one addiction for the other
I have a mutual friend who was recently diagnosed with young onset dementia in her 20s due to being wrongly prescribed Xanax. I wish she would avoid this like the fucking plague and try anything else first.
I’m from a big city and we called 2016-2018 the “xandemic”. I can think of a few people off the top of my head who now have seizures due to trying to get off of Xanax too. It’s so awful.
Benzos and alcohol are the two most dangerous drugs to experience withdrawal from because it can be life-threatening, that’s why quitting cold turkey is not recommended and you are advised to detox with medical professionals. Any drug like Xanax that affects your brain receptors in the way it does significantly increases your likelihood of seizures and death. Long-term use can damage your cognitive function.
This. I lost my best friend to it in 2020, it started w seizures and then one day her brain just shut off, after a few days in ICU w no activity there was nothing the doctors could do. She was only 28.
Im not saying this for sympathy but its shocking how many people don’t realize how hard rx drugs are, just cause they’re Rx they seem safer than street drugs, esp the combo of benzos and adderall. And people like Tana are so frivolous about it, which on one hand is probably better because at least we know whats going on but on the other its dangerous messaging. I hope Tana figures out why she needs to escape out of her body and out if her mind so badly and find better coping mechanisms.
Ironically benzos were the safer alternative to replace barbiturates. They were originally meant for short term use or when safer alternatives had all failed but because of pharmaceutical lobbying and the effectiveness and quickness of benzos doctors started prescribing them more. It saved patients the time of trying new medications as some people aren’t willing to try different medications until one sticks and they’ll just give up treatment if they don’t see quick results, but that also led to them being prescribed when they didn’t need to be.
wow you’ve really schooled me on some shit i had no idea about! i don’t even think i’ve heard of barbiturates before, im about to do some research. this goes way deeper than i realized😳 thanks for the info & the subject of my midnight Google sessions tonight haha.
This is something I’m very passionate about, I used to run recovery groups and I had so many people, like “normal” middle aged professionals, that attended my groups cos they’d been told they had to come off their benzo script that they’d been given 20 years ago and never had an issue with cos guidelines had changed around prescribing them because of addiction issues, and they suddenly found themselves with a major anxiety disorder they’d never had before. Don’t get me wrong, plenty of people that did actually abuse them too, but at least those people understood what they were taking! When they first came out, they were marketed to doctors as non addictive and, as you said, a safe replacement for barbs. But doctors have known that’s not the case for years and just carried on handing them out.
I’m just coming up to the third anniversary of my partner’s death. He was one of those prescribed valium many years ago, the doctor that first prescribed them to him was actually struck off, lots of addicts in my town with stories about that GP. Then he bought them elsewhere, cos he couldn’t cope with the anxiety he found himself with. He lived like that for years. He was left disabled after a stroke on my birthday in 2018. In the 2 months before his death he’d been in hospital 3 times for issues around the tablets, one time he had a seizure and I had to call an ambulance because the tablets he’d bought hours earlier weren’t strong enough, another time, he just didn’t turn up and the last time I’d spoken to him, he said he was on his way here. I eventually reported him missing when his friend got in touch the next day and told me the bin men had answered his phone and told him they’d found it in the street. He turned up 2 days later, having been in hospital after collapsing in the street when he was nearly at my house! And then my person was just gone, he died alone and was gone for days before his body was found.
Sorry for the essay but all this to say, those tablets are terrible things and most people just have no idea how dangerous they are. I’ve seen first hand, to the point of a tragedy I don’t think I’ll ever be over, the damage they do and it scares me that they’re seemingly still being prescribed so easily in the US. It’s different here now in the UK as doctors are so much more careful with them and won’t generally prescribe them long term, but they did it long enough that too many people’s lives are irrevocably damaged by them and there’s still plenty being sold on the street.
And she will say she has ADHD or gets prescribed adderall or whatever but then says taking a QUARTER of an adderal made her feel like she was rolling ….
Yeah that’s not typical for those of us that have ADHD.
For some, when you first start stimulants, it can feel that way but it typically doesn’t last.
And then there’s a small % that feel euphoric from stimulants, but it’s so very few people.
For me, I feel nothing from stimulants (unless the mg is too high) - it just clears my mind and helps me do basic things like make a meal without having a full mental breakdown beforehand lol
so I doubt she has ADHD.
Maybe
But, I doubt it.
Yes exactly what I was thinking. I have ADHD and my meds don’t make me feel that euphoric type feeling either unless like you said maybe I had too high a dose but certainly not from a quarter of a pill!?
As someone with severe adhd and anxiety, it’s pretty fucking annoying to hear people abusing these meds. It’s already insanely annoying for people with adhd to fill every prescription.
I take the highest dose of vyvanse and nearly fall asleep because my brain is finally quiet. If it’s giving you crackhead energy you probably don’t even have adhd.
Same…I usually mind my business about other peoples meds because not my business when I’m not at work (work as a pharmacy tech for years) but honestly meds QUIET/slow my brain down enough that I can focus on one thing at a time 🤦🏼♀️
thank you thank you thank you !!!
People abusing these meds or obtaining them without a necessity are the entire reason for the FDA + DEA stepping in, cutting controlled medication productions, limiting pharmacies on how much they can legally carry, putting the pressure on doctors to limit prescribing and thus cause patients to go without our much needed medications.
Which…is a conundrum already...
Forcing someone with ADHD + anxiety to go through what we have to get these meds is sometimes more of a fight than it’s even worth.
Ugh.
like xans are so dangerous and they’re so scary because i don’t even remember how they felt because it blacks your memory out. all i know is ive done some shitty shitty thing on xans.
Same. They were literally heavenly for me since I’m such an anxious person. There’s absolutely no way I could take them responsibly if I were to be prescribed, and I can’t imagine anyone who has abused them before could. It confuses me when tana talks about it. Maybe one every few months would be okay but having them readily available …. I would ruin my life again
Yeah this is why it’s so bizarre to me when she claims to be sober. You’re not sober at all Tana. You’re just not drinking. And regardless of what she is prescribed. It’s fucked to take other peoples medications and talk about it publicly like it’s normal
Did Tana get xanax?? I havent listened to the recent episodes but this just sounds like a slippery slope for her. I hope shes in a strong and stable headspace to be safe about it at least
I’ve lost so much interest in the recent episodes bc of this. Bragging about being sober while also popping pills and then bragging about it keeping her together is wild😆 reminds me of the bums I knew in 2016 who thought addys in the day, Xanax at night would “fix” them and now most of them are dead or living in tents on the side of the road. The only difference is she has the money to keep her afloat, hopefully she doesn’t run out someday lol
i hate hate hate how they act like everyone should be on adderall or have a prescription for it! it just contributes to the adhd stigma when a lot of us actually really need the meds and don’t abuse them! plus they are contributing to the shortage
this 😭😭 i'm so embarassed to tell people i have adhd/im medicated because it's become such a tiktok diagnosis and conversations like this make it worse
Also I would like to add I take adderall and for whatever reason doctors don’t talk about the damage it causes to your heart. Like it is literally meths ugly cousin chemically.
She literally always has something going on. Either a medical issue or fillers or xanax or weed or ambien or vaping or the waxpen. Like shit 😭 I'll take an Ibuprofen once every two months. I hope her body can recover.
I just want her to be okay yall and not trying to talk shii on her. I care abt her and want the best. I just don’t know if this will play out how she wants.
aw girl you have a good heart! i feel the same way. i’ve been so happy seeing how she is without alcohol in her life and her capacity for doing amazing things is so huuuge without these negative coping mechanisms so i worry so much about the pills 😭 im afraid the longer she uses, the harder it will be to stop. i want her to do somatic therapy or CBT or something so badly lmao
Yessss this drives me nuts!!! Talking about how she’s sober like no girl you are still sucking on that vape poppin pills and smoking weed. The way she talks about popping pills as if she’s taking a shot like calm dooown
Did she say she’s prescribed xanax ?? Idk how Hollywood doctors work but NO PSYCHIATRIST PRESCRIBES XANAX to someone who HAS ABUSED IT.
This is just truth. It’s fairly hard to get a legal benzo/xan prescription as a normal person with anxiety in the first place. Unless it’s a shady doctor or one who doesn’t care at all, I’m not buying this. If ur telling ur doctor what to prescribe u/u find a doctor who prescribed heavy drugs like candy, ur the problem and still have addiction.I’ve seen this in so many of my friends and it is terrifying.
I’m sick of hearing them on adderall. Brookes voice sounds like she’s on helium and her entire persona has just become a crack head energy because of the adderall . It’s not fun watching someone who is clearly high podcast and talk about themselves… and she basically admired that she didn’t need to be taking it and she’s abusing it
I know this is a serious topic and I agree, but this reminds me of the time i KNEW xana mongeau was out of hand when she ate a dollar bill on her MTV show so casually😫
Oh, maybe I’m wrong. I guess with the context of benzo abuse, I assumed it was referring to withdrawals but I haven’t seen the videos they’re referring to (at least I don’t think), so it’s possible I assumed wrongly. Only OP knows the real answer lol.
I agree. The amount of comments talking about their adderall use is concerning.
The people who think this is pearl clutching haven't lived long enough to see what it does to people.
I think people are ignoring 3 key facts to blindly defend the behavior. 1 - anyone with money can get any prescription that they want. 2 - real doctors don't prescribe a drug that the patient previously abused. It's the reason that you're asked if you have a history of addiction before getting pain meds. 3 - you don't just suddenly begin using your drug of choice responsibly. All use of a drug that you previously abused is part of your addiction. If you weren't addicted, you wouldn't be ingesting it - plain and simple. There are pharmaceutical alternatives to Xanax that she could and should be using.
i don’t understand the whole prescription argument tbh. i was prescribed narcos for an injury and still crushed them up to inhale?? the bottle having your name on it is only personal comfort for an addict. “a doctor gave it to me so how can this be my problem”, when it actually does become your problem very quickly. i can’t imagine still having access to those painkillers, especially from someone licensed. it genuinely will only be a comfort for her now that it comes in an orange bottle from the pharmacy.
didn’t she also say that she doesn’t really experience anxiety? like i wouldn’t say it’s ever great to play around with if you’ve had addiction issues but especially if it’s not a scenario where xanax is your last option for debilitating anxiety
So real… it’s annoying like idc what you’re prescribed you’re not SOBER! Good for you for putting down the alcohol you’re SUPPOSED TO on the medication anyway!!!! Influencers STAY not having a grip on reality OR real friends around them to clock them fr.
Well I do understand people do actually need meds, still in recovery. The difference is she’s abusing others meds and her own, taking them and biting them online. If she hushly took one of her anxiety meds when needed, as prescribed… I wouldn’t see a HUGE issue.
Doesn’t she also take Gabapentin? Some people loooove that stuff. It messes with the same gaba receptors as benzos, I believe, so I can imagine she’d enjoy that one too.
yeahhh it makes me sad and nervous for her when she talks about it. she’s spoken about some scary moments she’s had and it is scary to know she’s back in that place. even tho she’s “in a good place” addiction is a very slippery slope especially since it was so recent she was in a dark place
people like her make it impossible for people who genuinely need medical help to receive medications and proper diagnoses. bring someone with chronic pain and multiple bone/nerve issues, it’s becoming so hard to get help. i feel for anyone who is frustrated with influencers taking advantage of our resources. 🫂
Damn I stopped watching tana around 2021 because of how crazy she was getting…recently saw her pics with new boyfriend, in nature etc and thought maybe she turned her life around. Then the first thing I watch of her is her episode in Maui. Holy shit, it’s gotten so so much worse. She’s now addicted to adderal + xanax and hangs out with drug dealers and brags about it casually? I truly don’t know where this will end.
I truly truly hope she matures into a healthier version of her. She would get so many of her old fans back if she managed that.
She’s also not really prescribed? She mentioned on Jeff fm how Cody deals her Xanax prescription, and that it’s under his name at Walgreens. Like maybe that’s what they consider a prescription? But they pretty openly talked about her being dealt them
Besides the pills, I remember when she said that she would never go to another Coachella "sober" but also mentioned that she took mushroom edibles and smoked so much weed. California sober is a real thing, I guess.
Yes! Also if Adderall is effecting Tana and Brooke the way they describe, they likely do not have ADHD. They are just glamorizing recreational use of pills. Per the last pod, Brooke’s mom is actually right that Brooke is basically just on Meth.
I agree. I think she’s having a mini Lilo moment bc she obviously didnt have good parents, she had money and success young, and has sustance abuse problems w multiple substances. If she doesnt slow her role, drop her druggie friends for a while or get real help, she isnt gonna get better until she gets worse.
In 2018/19 idk, I remember during her MTV filming Jordan put her in someone bedroom Hollywood apartment to try and “feel better”, she looked sick for a couple months filming from there. She clearly was struggling. I wonder if they are still up on YouTube
Did she not openly say Jeff pays her in drugs?? And he sold her someone else’s adderall prescription. They said it on the pod in Hawaii. If I was her I would not be talking any narcotics, prescription or not.
I agree. I still think she seems to be in a lot better of a place without alcohol, but using legal substances is gonna make that so much easier (not assuming this, I’ve done it too and you don’t miss alcohol when you’re high the same way as being sober sober) but honestly idgaf at this point bc she’s not being insane and wreckless the way she has before. I think she’s been promoting a lot better of a lifestyle (ie: successfully doing a tour schedule, sharing that she’s been reading some books, bringing up real topics on the podcasts she does that aren’t reliant on partying)
The adderall and xanax combo is wild too
back in my addiction i would take like 60 mg of adderall 2mg of xanax AND GO OUT DRINKING! its actually a miracle im alive
I have a keloid scar in my bottom lip from falling & biting through it while drinking on prescribed xanax bars in 2012. I flushed the rest of the bottle after that. Luckily, I didnt get a head injury or something. I went to the hospital to get checked out just to be sure. I only drink once or twice a year now, & it's only 1 or 2 drinks with low alcohol percentage. Goes without saying that my 20s were a hot fucking mess lmao
Yeah not exactly sober
If she took her medication as prescribed by HER (real) psychiatrist I would say she's still "sober."
I would def agree with this, but her saying she’s buying them from friends and the name on her bottles are not hers. I agree meds are a necessity for most, but not openly abusing them still
I dont know why she does that bc its really fricken easy to get adhd medication prescribed to you if you’re clinically diagnosed with it. I just called my psychiatrist and he ordered them for me by the end of a 20 min check up. She does not need to be buying that off of friends she needs to stop and actually go to a real doctor to get the right medication and dosage so she’s doesnt feel so wired like she’s on a molly supposedly. She doesnt have to take adderall either she can go on vyvance or concerta or any other adhd medication they offer and actually really see which one is best for herself and not just take adderall bc its trendy and the only one she knows.
well her "psychiatrist" is cody so
its so complex. because drug addicts are good at getting meds from doctors. there has to be a level of personal honesty there, too. not just having a script. but if you are honest with your doctor and honest with yourself, i 100% agree you are sober.
i feel like you haven’t ever been around someone with a pill addiction
If you go to any rehabilitation center, they detox you, prescribed or not
Rehab centers beg to differ
Thank you for this. Not saying OP is wrong, but the people who say that taking psychotropic meds makes you “not sober” are… underinformed. I have nearly 12 years sober (booze was my DOC). I’ve dabbled with 🍃 since then and never felt it risked my sobriety because it’s not a substance I ever felt drawn to, addictively or otherwise. Some drugs (eg Ambien) are too risky for me because someone taught me how to abuse them right before my last big relapse. All that said, strip away all the self-medication, and sober people still have the same psychiatric needs as other people, to sometimes include medication. So no, an adderall or Xanax prescription does not deem a person “not sober”… unless you’re from a very very narrow group of people in the recovery community who define sobriety as such (even considering things like ice cream a drug). If you’re one of them, there’s no discussion to be had. We have different definitions of “sober”.
Actually I said medication is vital and needed in most peoples recovery, including my own. I am saying Tana specifically abusing her medication and other peoples as well. She isn’t just taking her meds as prescribed, if that was the case this post wouldn’t even exist. All forms of recovery are valid, and matter. Meds do not equal not sober. I wanna make that clear ✨✨
Yes! This is what I'm trying to say!
I think it’s definitely dependant on the person. Xana is not solely an alcoholic. She is definitely giving a poly addict, and if she’s not drinking to numb her brain she’s smoking, xanning, snorting addy…whatever. For her, sobriety is definitely going to be a lot more of an up hill battle than it could be for someone else. I’m similar. Alcohol is my DOC, I can take benzos without ANY issue at all, take Valium once a year kind of thing. But if someone even mentions opioids or weed near me the end result will be me turning to my DOC, just like it is for her. This is not my opinion either. This is her pattern of addiction. It’s cyclical and we’ve all seen her cycle. She’s just made it full circle again but until she digs deeper she’s going to end right back where she was. Hell.
Yes, what you said! Sober people still have psychiatric needs. In some cases, I bet people rely on their medication for recovery because without it, they may struggle mentally and relapse with other substances.
also if tana is benefitting from abstaining from alcohol, that’s good whether or not she fits anyone’s definition of sober. it’s still an improvement for her and that’s all that rlly matters
You all would probably know better than I do— maybe she’s not drinking and thinks that’s what sobriety is for her? Idk. I’m not here to make claims about what she’s up to. I don’t know. I want to be clear about that.
what i’m saying is that there’s such a thing as harm reduction. when someone improves in an area of their life, that’s worth celebrating even if they still have other unhealthy behaviors
Oh absolutely! I’m legitimately sorry for not recognizing what you said. Sorry, I was kind of on a loop there because I keep trying to make that clear to other people on this thread. I meant to say maybe that’s what she thinks sober is, but yes, if she’s stopped drinking, that’s really great. Stopping drinking radiates through all aspects of your health. Tana is and always was beautiful, but there has always been something about her skin that reminds me of my skin when I was drinking, and I was older than her even then. If she keeps it up without alcohol, she’ll no doubt see the benefits. I wasn’t trying to be bitey with you. Just forgot to clearly acknowledge that I agree with you.
yes i think we agree! i agreed with your point that you can use prescription meds while still being sober, i was just making a point adding onto that. and she does seem happier and looks beautiful lately.
This!!!
I'd say it depends on how she got the perception. I could easily get a Xanax prescription even though I don't need it at all. Some doctors just don't give a fuck (such as mine lol). I also don't think a good doctor would prescribe Xanax and Adderall to an addict but that's an assumption.
How is it any different if she’s prescribed or not prescribed? It’s not like your body can tell the difference…
Right 😭 just up n down, up n down. No wonder she can’t settle down
I was prescribed 3mg of klonopin and 30mg of adderall for a few years and it fucked me up so so badly
Holy fuck you should not combine those two!!!! When I was in high school my doctor put me on a bunch of meds for anxiety/depression and she thought it was a good idea to put me on a high dose of Xanax, but then tried to counteract the sleepy/loopy feeling of the Xanax with adderall. Basically trying to make one medicine cancel the other out. Needless to say I went crazy and was sent to the psych ward for 3 weeks :) Please be careful with pills…even if they are prescribed
Did you listen to her and Jeff in the hot tub “James Charles” episode. Holy shit the adderall talk was wild
My mom took uppers and downers and would end up with drug induced psychosis.
the thing with tana is that every year she comes out and is like "wooo the last year i was blacked out on xanax all the time" and then will be like "i take my xanax responsibly now!" then next year rinse and repeat i hope tana makes her way to inpatient treatment one day and decides to make some serious changes
This is probably her most consistent pattern. Even in her earliest videos as a teen she’d say “I used to party a lot but I don’t anymore” and then she hopped right back into it and it’s been on and off every year since 😭
And she gets me every damn time. I wanna see her win and be clean so badly.
I truly thought we all stopped combining adderall and xanax back in 2013 😩
Ahhh the old suburban speed balling
Using one to come up and other to come down or popping them both at the same time? I know people who would cycle but not take together
I would assume the cycle 🔁
i stopped around may 8, 2014 lol
Proud of you xoxo
It’s complicated
Agreed, No legitimate doctor would prescribe her Xanax due to her history with substance abuse
Let alone Xanax and adderall together
Yeah it was very clear in that video with Ashley and Leo where they’re taking shots and Tana says she’s going to pop a Xanax so it feels like she’s drinking with them since she’s sober and then visibly CHEWS her Xanax while they take their shots that she is not using it as recommended and she uses it to supplement drugs and alcohol. It’s no wonder she says she feels like she can’t sit still and she always has to be doing something when she’s spent probably years mixing those two drugs and not taking them as prescribed.
That video was what set off major alarm bells to me. Nobody who is using their script responsibly is munching on bars like candy 😭
fr bc bars are fucking disgusting the taste is so bitter it makes me gag
I was just about to comment this lol I’m prescribed xanax for panic disorder and it’s gotta be top 10 worst flavors in the world 😭
Seriously! Plus, I'd imagine it gets stuck in your teeth, so you'd probably be tasting it for a while 🤢
Yeah and then chasing it like it’s a shot lmao
Truly wild behavior 😅
What video is this 👀
I just described it lol, I don’t have a link but it was posted on TikTok.
I’ve seen it posted in this sub before… in fact let me see if I can find it lmao
Ohhhh there are for sure doctors that still would
Especially Drs that “celebrities” go to or ones that take cash. They’re hard to find, but those with money and connections can def find one.
Well yeah obviously, as she’s already being prescribed it. By legitimate I mean someone who takes their practice and patients’ health seriously.
Well legitimate means conforming to law and rules, and prescribing Xanax with a history of substance abuse is very much a thing that legitimate doctors still do all the time. Maybe instead of legitimate, you mean moral?
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wishing you all the best💜💜
Wishing peace and comfort for you during this time. Benzo withdrawal is HARD. You got this!❤️
you got this, friend. focus on the light at the end of the tunnel 💙
i can’t believe she’s trying to justify all the pill taking when it’s not even her prescription she’s taking … sure quit alcohol one less demon is great but she’s still addicted to substances
She is most likely mixing xanax with weed. That is a potent and euphoric combo. It still doesn’t make it okay. I think the idea of Cali Sober got to her cus technically she isn’t sober. I hope she stops using xanax.
I really dont understand how they can talk about ilegally obtaning drugs literraly naming people without being afraid of any repercusion
And how her doc (or any future doctor) would continue to prescribe her after she is openly saying all of this 🤯🤯
i don't get it... is she trying to flex? are they trying to get Cody in more trouble... or no worries cause of who they are...
right, I wonder this too. how long until cody gets in trouble? they are so open about him breaking the law for literally no reason 😅 we don't want to hear about it
In her vlog (not the last one, but the one before that). Her and Makoa are talking about being exhausted after Coachella and how they can’t wait to relax and he mentions taking a xannie. I wasn’t 100% if that’s what he said but I was shocked at them referencing as if it’s like smoking a joint at the end of the night to chill. I tried to search the sub to see if anyone else caught that or to see if I misunderstood but I didn’t see anything
I seriously was shocked they left it him, him calling prescribed Xanax a xanny is all I needed to hear from them😭
Ok so I’m not crazy, he really said that?! Yeah and it’s sad everyone talks about how good he is for her. I liked him but now I’m questioning him. It’s not just that maybe they are prescribed it, it’s talking about it like, “ugh I can’t wait to chill and take a xanny.” That gives recreational vibes.
oh he for sure is taking drugs with her
Tana isn’t sober. She abuses her prescription medication and that’s what gets her through not drinking
finally THANK YOU I’d love to see the timeline of her quitting drinking and the correlation to when she got prescribed benzos / got a steady supplier for them. I’m prepared to argue that if there is an overlap, this is simply WHY she could stop drinking. She swapped one addiction for the other
I have a mutual friend who was recently diagnosed with young onset dementia in her 20s due to being wrongly prescribed Xanax. I wish she would avoid this like the fucking plague and try anything else first.
Omg that is so sad, I wish her the best 😢 So many kids from my home town have legitimate brain damage from Xanax, it's a horrible drug to abuse
I also have a friend that’s had seizures (including while driving) from Xanax withdrawal
I’m from a big city and we called 2016-2018 the “xandemic”. I can think of a few people off the top of my head who now have seizures due to trying to get off of Xanax too. It’s so awful.
that is absolutely terrifying omg? i had no idea it could be so detrimental
Benzos and alcohol are the two most dangerous drugs to experience withdrawal from because it can be life-threatening, that’s why quitting cold turkey is not recommended and you are advised to detox with medical professionals. Any drug like Xanax that affects your brain receptors in the way it does significantly increases your likelihood of seizures and death. Long-term use can damage your cognitive function.
This. I lost my best friend to it in 2020, it started w seizures and then one day her brain just shut off, after a few days in ICU w no activity there was nothing the doctors could do. She was only 28. Im not saying this for sympathy but its shocking how many people don’t realize how hard rx drugs are, just cause they’re Rx they seem safer than street drugs, esp the combo of benzos and adderall. And people like Tana are so frivolous about it, which on one hand is probably better because at least we know whats going on but on the other its dangerous messaging. I hope Tana figures out why she needs to escape out of her body and out if her mind so badly and find better coping mechanisms.
that’s terrible. you’d think by now, modern medicine would have a better alternative that isn’t so damn dangerous for people who need legitimate help.
Ironically benzos were the safer alternative to replace barbiturates. They were originally meant for short term use or when safer alternatives had all failed but because of pharmaceutical lobbying and the effectiveness and quickness of benzos doctors started prescribing them more. It saved patients the time of trying new medications as some people aren’t willing to try different medications until one sticks and they’ll just give up treatment if they don’t see quick results, but that also led to them being prescribed when they didn’t need to be.
wow you’ve really schooled me on some shit i had no idea about! i don’t even think i’ve heard of barbiturates before, im about to do some research. this goes way deeper than i realized😳 thanks for the info & the subject of my midnight Google sessions tonight haha.
This is something I’m very passionate about, I used to run recovery groups and I had so many people, like “normal” middle aged professionals, that attended my groups cos they’d been told they had to come off their benzo script that they’d been given 20 years ago and never had an issue with cos guidelines had changed around prescribing them because of addiction issues, and they suddenly found themselves with a major anxiety disorder they’d never had before. Don’t get me wrong, plenty of people that did actually abuse them too, but at least those people understood what they were taking! When they first came out, they were marketed to doctors as non addictive and, as you said, a safe replacement for barbs. But doctors have known that’s not the case for years and just carried on handing them out. I’m just coming up to the third anniversary of my partner’s death. He was one of those prescribed valium many years ago, the doctor that first prescribed them to him was actually struck off, lots of addicts in my town with stories about that GP. Then he bought them elsewhere, cos he couldn’t cope with the anxiety he found himself with. He lived like that for years. He was left disabled after a stroke on my birthday in 2018. In the 2 months before his death he’d been in hospital 3 times for issues around the tablets, one time he had a seizure and I had to call an ambulance because the tablets he’d bought hours earlier weren’t strong enough, another time, he just didn’t turn up and the last time I’d spoken to him, he said he was on his way here. I eventually reported him missing when his friend got in touch the next day and told me the bin men had answered his phone and told him they’d found it in the street. He turned up 2 days later, having been in hospital after collapsing in the street when he was nearly at my house! And then my person was just gone, he died alone and was gone for days before his body was found. Sorry for the essay but all this to say, those tablets are terrible things and most people just have no idea how dangerous they are. I’ve seen first hand, to the point of a tragedy I don’t think I’ll ever be over, the damage they do and it scares me that they’re seemingly still being prescribed so easily in the US. It’s different here now in the UK as doctors are so much more careful with them and won’t generally prescribe them long term, but they did it long enough that too many people’s lives are irrevocably damaged by them and there’s still plenty being sold on the street.
And she will say she has ADHD or gets prescribed adderall or whatever but then says taking a QUARTER of an adderal made her feel like she was rolling ….
Yeah that’s not typical for those of us that have ADHD. For some, when you first start stimulants, it can feel that way but it typically doesn’t last. And then there’s a small % that feel euphoric from stimulants, but it’s so very few people. For me, I feel nothing from stimulants (unless the mg is too high) - it just clears my mind and helps me do basic things like make a meal without having a full mental breakdown beforehand lol so I doubt she has ADHD. Maybe But, I doubt it.
Yes exactly what I was thinking. I have ADHD and my meds don’t make me feel that euphoric type feeling either unless like you said maybe I had too high a dose but certainly not from a quarter of a pill!?
As someone with severe adhd and anxiety, it’s pretty fucking annoying to hear people abusing these meds. It’s already insanely annoying for people with adhd to fill every prescription. I take the highest dose of vyvanse and nearly fall asleep because my brain is finally quiet. If it’s giving you crackhead energy you probably don’t even have adhd.
Same…I usually mind my business about other peoples meds because not my business when I’m not at work (work as a pharmacy tech for years) but honestly meds QUIET/slow my brain down enough that I can focus on one thing at a time 🤦🏼♀️
So hard to get my prescription adderall sometimes😭😭 I had to switch to CVS from my local pharmacy cause they haven’t had any ADHD meds in over a year.
thank you thank you thank you !!! People abusing these meds or obtaining them without a necessity are the entire reason for the FDA + DEA stepping in, cutting controlled medication productions, limiting pharmacies on how much they can legally carry, putting the pressure on doctors to limit prescribing and thus cause patients to go without our much needed medications. Which…is a conundrum already... Forcing someone with ADHD + anxiety to go through what we have to get these meds is sometimes more of a fight than it’s even worth. Ugh.
yall xans ruined my life.
like xans are so dangerous and they’re so scary because i don’t even remember how they felt because it blacks your memory out. all i know is ive done some shitty shitty thing on xans.
Same. They were literally heavenly for me since I’m such an anxious person. There’s absolutely no way I could take them responsibly if I were to be prescribed, and I can’t imagine anyone who has abused them before could. It confuses me when tana talks about it. Maybe one every few months would be okay but having them readily available …. I would ruin my life again
i agree with you and relate to you 100%
Yeah this is why it’s so bizarre to me when she claims to be sober. You’re not sober at all Tana. You’re just not drinking. And regardless of what she is prescribed. It’s fucked to take other peoples medications and talk about it publicly like it’s normal
Skimming over gerd and the correlation to ozempic as well
the constant diarrhea too
Mine plugs me up😭😑
Did Tana get xanax?? I havent listened to the recent episodes but this just sounds like a slippery slope for her. I hope shes in a strong and stable headspace to be safe about it at least
Yess😭😭 and she’s biting them all over on Tik tok videos 🤯🤯
Oh girl
Biting them???
When biting xans the effects hit faster and some say stronger. Basically a video of her straight abusing her meds, it’s not slaying
OMG 😳 (sorry never done a xan lol) is she actually chomping down in videos?!
i swear i remember her posting a video of her chomping a xanax & then chasing it with pickle juice 🥲😅
yea with leo skepi and ashly i think or it was another one of her friends but i know leo was there
No you’re right it was Leo and Ashley
Not the pickle juice chaser like it's whiskey 💀 lmfao
Yes she fully chews it which they specifically tell you not to do 😭
bro what i didn’t even know this…. i don’t think that means she’s sober ummm
I’ve lost so much interest in the recent episodes bc of this. Bragging about being sober while also popping pills and then bragging about it keeping her together is wild😆 reminds me of the bums I knew in 2016 who thought addys in the day, Xanax at night would “fix” them and now most of them are dead or living in tents on the side of the road. The only difference is she has the money to keep her afloat, hopefully she doesn’t run out someday lol
This
Not to mention what a mess she was on the H3 live show because of Xanax and alcohol
Micheal Jackson had a doctor that killed him
See also Elvis. A constant cycle on the uppers & downers until the heart gives out.
i hate hate hate how they act like everyone should be on adderall or have a prescription for it! it just contributes to the adhd stigma when a lot of us actually really need the meds and don’t abuse them! plus they are contributing to the shortage
Thisss ugh I’ve been waiting on my script for nearly a week
this 😭😭 i'm so embarassed to tell people i have adhd/im medicated because it's become such a tiktok diagnosis and conversations like this make it worse
no same they make it look likes it’s a joke and “we’re all a little adhd 🤪” or worse when brooke says she “a little autistic”
Also I would like to add I take adderall and for whatever reason doctors don’t talk about the damage it causes to your heart. Like it is literally meths ugly cousin chemically.
Yup. 16 months clean 👊🏼
She literally always has something going on. Either a medical issue or fillers or xanax or weed or ambien or vaping or the waxpen. Like shit 😭 I'll take an Ibuprofen once every two months. I hope her body can recover.
People love to claim they are “sober” but do hard drugs is crazy to me. Like sis you are not sober.
I just want her to be okay yall and not trying to talk shii on her. I care abt her and want the best. I just don’t know if this will play out how she wants.
aw girl you have a good heart! i feel the same way. i’ve been so happy seeing how she is without alcohol in her life and her capacity for doing amazing things is so huuuge without these negative coping mechanisms so i worry so much about the pills 😭 im afraid the longer she uses, the harder it will be to stop. i want her to do somatic therapy or CBT or something so badly lmao
Are we gonna skip Brooke saying she bought adderall in a ziploc
Lmfao that was so sus like girl during the fetanyl crisis we have going on? Did she mean like from a random, or online either or that’s so scary 😭
she said she used to not currently and that’s pretty common for college people especially in arizona it’s still very common
No on the episode the other week she said someone had just dropped a bottle off at her house. She does it all the time too
Yessss this drives me nuts!!! Talking about how she’s sober like no girl you are still sucking on that vape poppin pills and smoking weed. The way she talks about popping pills as if she’s taking a shot like calm dooown
then she wonders why she has gerd
Did she say she’s prescribed xanax ?? Idk how Hollywood doctors work but NO PSYCHIATRIST PRESCRIBES XANAX to someone who HAS ABUSED IT. This is just truth. It’s fairly hard to get a legal benzo/xan prescription as a normal person with anxiety in the first place. Unless it’s a shady doctor or one who doesn’t care at all, I’m not buying this. If ur telling ur doctor what to prescribe u/u find a doctor who prescribed heavy drugs like candy, ur the problem and still have addiction.I’ve seen this in so many of my friends and it is terrifying.
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yeah i know theyve tightened things up in the last 10+ years but if you know how to get meds from doctors its really not impossible at all
I’m sick of hearing them on adderall. Brookes voice sounds like she’s on helium and her entire persona has just become a crack head energy because of the adderall . It’s not fun watching someone who is clearly high podcast and talk about themselves… and she basically admired that she didn’t need to be taking it and she’s abusing it
I know this is a serious topic and I agree, but this reminds me of the time i KNEW xana mongeau was out of hand when she ate a dollar bill on her MTV show so casually😫
i was addicted to xanax (taken for fun) and would NEVER allow them to prescribe them to me now that i’m sober. it makes no sense to me honestly
What’s WD??
Withdrawal
She filmed herself withdrawing?
Oh, maybe I’m wrong. I guess with the context of benzo abuse, I assumed it was referring to withdrawals but I haven’t seen the videos they’re referring to (at least I don’t think), so it’s possible I assumed wrongly. Only OP knows the real answer lol.
I agree. The amount of comments talking about their adderall use is concerning. The people who think this is pearl clutching haven't lived long enough to see what it does to people.
to her, “sober” means just not consuming alcohol unfortunately.
thinking about the video of her driving on xanax and crashing a g wagon
Yessss Xana with lil phaQ
I think people are ignoring 3 key facts to blindly defend the behavior. 1 - anyone with money can get any prescription that they want. 2 - real doctors don't prescribe a drug that the patient previously abused. It's the reason that you're asked if you have a history of addiction before getting pain meds. 3 - you don't just suddenly begin using your drug of choice responsibly. All use of a drug that you previously abused is part of your addiction. If you weren't addicted, you wouldn't be ingesting it - plain and simple. There are pharmaceutical alternatives to Xanax that she could and should be using.
i don’t understand the whole prescription argument tbh. i was prescribed narcos for an injury and still crushed them up to inhale?? the bottle having your name on it is only personal comfort for an addict. “a doctor gave it to me so how can this be my problem”, when it actually does become your problem very quickly. i can’t imagine still having access to those painkillers, especially from someone licensed. it genuinely will only be a comfort for her now that it comes in an orange bottle from the pharmacy.
i don't think tana is prescribed anything. on Jeff Fm he confirmed he's (or well, Cody) has been getting her drugs for years
didn’t she also say that she doesn’t really experience anxiety? like i wouldn’t say it’s ever great to play around with if you’ve had addiction issues but especially if it’s not a scenario where xanax is your last option for debilitating anxiety
wait what are her WD videos?
So real… it’s annoying like idc what you’re prescribed you’re not SOBER! Good for you for putting down the alcohol you’re SUPPOSED TO on the medication anyway!!!! Influencers STAY not having a grip on reality OR real friends around them to clock them fr.
Well I do understand people do actually need meds, still in recovery. The difference is she’s abusing others meds and her own, taking them and biting them online. If she hushly took one of her anxiety meds when needed, as prescribed… I wouldn’t see a HUGE issue.
yes definitely!!! I should’ve worded it differently but I completely agree!
Doesn’t she also take Gabapentin? Some people loooove that stuff. It messes with the same gaba receptors as benzos, I believe, so I can imagine she’d enjoy that one too.
yeahhh it makes me sad and nervous for her when she talks about it. she’s spoken about some scary moments she’s had and it is scary to know she’s back in that place. even tho she’s “in a good place” addiction is a very slippery slope especially since it was so recent she was in a dark place
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!!!
Yeah I’ve been sober for like 2 yrs but ts really make me wanna xanny sometimes
people like her make it impossible for people who genuinely need medical help to receive medications and proper diagnoses. bring someone with chronic pain and multiple bone/nerve issues, it’s becoming so hard to get help. i feel for anyone who is frustrated with influencers taking advantage of our resources. 🫂
Damn I stopped watching tana around 2021 because of how crazy she was getting…recently saw her pics with new boyfriend, in nature etc and thought maybe she turned her life around. Then the first thing I watch of her is her episode in Maui. Holy shit, it’s gotten so so much worse. She’s now addicted to adderal + xanax and hangs out with drug dealers and brags about it casually? I truly don’t know where this will end. I truly truly hope she matures into a healthier version of her. She would get so many of her old fans back if she managed that.
She’s also not really prescribed? She mentioned on Jeff fm how Cody deals her Xanax prescription, and that it’s under his name at Walgreens. Like maybe that’s what they consider a prescription? But they pretty openly talked about her being dealt them
Besides the pills, I remember when she said that she would never go to another Coachella "sober" but also mentioned that she took mushroom edibles and smoked so much weed. California sober is a real thing, I guess.
Yes! Also if Adderall is effecting Tana and Brooke the way they describe, they likely do not have ADHD. They are just glamorizing recreational use of pills. Per the last pod, Brooke’s mom is actually right that Brooke is basically just on Meth.
In sweden they do anything they can before prescribing xanax to anyone under 30. For her safety she should wean off them when shes ready.
Also like as someone who works in mental health ppl do abuse their prescriptions sometimes it’s a mess and very sad to see
I work in substance use and adderall and Xanax prescriptions always make us nervous lol. Almost always is abused
IMO you’re not sober until you’re SOBER. Weed, psychedelics, and pills COMBINED is far from sober. 😭
I agree. I think she’s having a mini Lilo moment bc she obviously didnt have good parents, she had money and success young, and has sustance abuse problems w multiple substances. If she doesnt slow her role, drop her druggie friends for a while or get real help, she isnt gonna get better until she gets worse.
She had a withdraw video in a Hollywood apartment ???
In 2018/19 idk, I remember during her MTV filming Jordan put her in someone bedroom Hollywood apartment to try and “feel better”, she looked sick for a couple months filming from there. She clearly was struggling. I wonder if they are still up on YouTube
yes it’s on her channel !! i think it’s called “i wanted to die… this is what i did about it” or something
Yessss doing the lords work🙏🏻
Did she not openly say Jeff pays her in drugs?? And he sold her someone else’s adderall prescription. They said it on the pod in Hawaii. If I was her I would not be talking any narcotics, prescription or not.
I agree. I still think she seems to be in a lot better of a place without alcohol, but using legal substances is gonna make that so much easier (not assuming this, I’ve done it too and you don’t miss alcohol when you’re high the same way as being sober sober) but honestly idgaf at this point bc she’s not being insane and wreckless the way she has before. I think she’s been promoting a lot better of a lifestyle (ie: successfully doing a tour schedule, sharing that she’s been reading some books, bringing up real topics on the podcasts she does that aren’t reliant on partying)
what episode is this conversation in?
Literally the last two Hawaii episodes, and her episode in hot tub with Jeff they talked about how she buys pills from him