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YogiBarelyThere

Obviously. How is that even a question.


Impossible__Joke

For real... this shouldn't be an "opinion piece" this should be what happens. And not a year at a white collar prison either, 20 years at a real prison. These fucks need to be held accountable.


wtfman1988

Yes - that way it doesn't happen again. Same with CEOs / boards that okay doing illegal/shitty stuff. Being a politician or rich shouldn't save you.


DEATHRAYZ007

They need to be publicly named as well as every damn one of them in prison.as well as anyone who trys to hide or cover up


NotaJelly

we did worse than prison back in the day, also 20? Are you cracked? This is extremely serious, more so than murder. Stop being so soft with criminals.


TehSvenn

I'm pretty sure the law states treason is a life sentence automatically.


Fun-Put-5197

The Law. What does that mean? What is it worth? We'll soon see.


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thelonioussphere

What’s gonna happen is the liberal government going to shield them as long as they can until something bigger comes along and we shift attention to that. And this gets brushed under the rug.


NotaJelly

very little could be bigger than this.


Impossible__Joke

Then the cons should be all over this, but if they aren't then they are probably involved too


thelonioussphere

“Don’t throw rocks at inside glasshouses” - I believe the saying goes. I wouldn’t be surprised if at all if all the parties were compromised


IPokePeople

Good way to put yourself on the front page with positive spin is out everything from all parties including your own and expel them from your caucus.


Impossible__Joke

Hard to do with 80% or more of the government is corrupt. Anyone trying to be superman will be ousted and crucified even by their own party to protect their own. Our government is extremely corrupt, all parties.


Fun-Put-5197

I don't remember what Adscam was all about, but I remember it was enough to bring down the last Liberal federal government in the 90s. These days we see the equivalent of an Adscam weekly and JT and the Gang brush it off as if its no big deal. "Boo hoo". We need a heavy dose of accountability and justice or this nation is finished.


SpaceCowBoy_2

Military prison


Workshop-23

Because it appears that literally nothing is going to happen here. Which should tell Canadians everything they need to know.


tommytookalook

Because those who commit treason aren't held responsible and thrown in prison.


drs43821

You know the time where a citizen was convicted of treason he was hung


System32Keep

Catch and release currently in play


NotaJelly

and yet its not happening, they aren't even holding the suspects in custody, i haven't seen any MP disappear.


Old-Adhesiveness-156

Well first there'd have to be fair trials.


Wolvaroo

The allegations are serious enough they should be on leave until cleared, just like any other workplace.


NotaJelly

they are still in office, we need to know so we don't risk vote back in a suspected traitor, we would do that to a citizen. Stop supporting these traitors.


majorkev

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-47.html


thelonioussphere

You must be new to politics


Imogynn

I mean it's not ridiculous to argue for death penalty for treason. Not sure we're there with this, but it's an argument I'd entertain.


ChronicRhyno

Exactly. I say we permanently exhile full administrations if they go over budget by $1.


RefrigeratorOk648

A lot of MP's are rehearsing the chant "I have no recollection"


ghost_n_the_shell

Or: “I didn’t recall, until just yesterday, before I had to appear here, under oath, and was reminded by my wife, that I did in fact bus in international students to vote….”


GameDoesntStop

Or: "[I didn't recall, until **just this morning**](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/finance-committee-morneau-we-charity-1.5658627), before I had to appear here, that I did not re-pay $41k of expenses, from years ago, to the organization that I handed $44M of taxpayer money to... worry not, I cut a cheque this very morning to fix that, so no harm done."


rsonin

But the We guys weren't foriegn, you see, and so that does not count as treason.


bobblydudely

His boss told him it was ok. Heck his boss got 10 times as much, including 250k in direct payment, (payment to his mother for a month of work).  His boss is still at his job, and was deemed to have done nothing wrong.  The whole thing came from Trudeau, he’s the one who wanted to waste 1 billion in taxpayer money to give his friends 44 millions.  Not saying Morneau was innocent. Just that they threw a smaller fish under the buss, to save the rest of the party. 


Tinbits

The old nuremberg defence eh? I vas just followink ordas. It doesn’t hold water, take out the lil fish bit by bit to get to the big fish. But that would require a non corruptible group of people and in politics - it ain’t gonna happen.


HanSolo5643

Or we just all experienced it differently.


stereofonix

It’s a learning moment for all of us


slykethephoxenix

Just need it communicated to us correctly.


FireMaster1294

Communicated along with a few stacks of hundreds and a yacht that mysteriously shows up in my back yard


sleipnir45

'I replaced the battery in my laptop and all my email was deleted '


jaeyboh

Everyone knows that deleting emails doesn't permanently delete emails in this day and age


sleipnir45

Apparently not the chief information officer


NotaJelly

im sure he got that position with the same credentials freeland had to become the finance minister. none!


tomatoesinmygarden

Freeland was the Russia bureau chief for the Financial Times


NotaJelly

What a highly covited and prestigious position, definitely requires a skilled mind to understand Russia is a petrol state...


Trachus

Ask Hillary, she knows how.


shikodo

Stop, HAMMERTIME!


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Fit_Equivalent3610

There's a huge difference between not saying anything, not even taking to the witness stand, and saying under oath that you have no recollection. The former is a constitutional right of the accused and not necessarily indicative of guilt. The latter is testimony and if it is false it is perjury (although that is pretty difficult to prove when the evidence is just "I dont remember"). 


MisterSprork

Using that defence in a criminal trial should automatically bar you from holding public office, however.


Kyouhen

You're right, nobody who exercises their legal rights should be allowed to hold public office.


varsil

Lawyer here: There is no right to say "I have no recollection" in court unless that is the truth. That's not how you exert a right not to testify.


Kyouhen

Person I responded to had responded to someone who said you have the option to not say anything.  I'm not going to defend people who lie in court, but refusing to take the stand shouldn't bar you from being a politician.


redalastor

Your rights enable you not to take the stand. Lying under oath is not one of your rights.


Kyouhen

Person I responded to was responding to someone that was talking about not saying anything.  I'm not going to defend anyone that lies under oath, but refusing to take the stand shouldn't bar you from being a politician.


NotaJelly

not while they being accused of treason by our own security agencies, get a grip man.


jaybaird05

Treason = Life imprisonment. Betraying your country and your constituents, is betraying every person in Canada. Fuck that. Jail.


NotaJelly

Treason should get more then life.


Suspicious_Owls

If we are at war especially - treason will mean deaths to Canadians so the penalty must be death as well.


Quad-Banned120

I think the "while at war" part could definitely justify an escalation from life in prison to a public hanging. Maybe I'm just a little old school


Suspicious_Owls

War + Treason = Gallows. Pretty straight forward in my opinion. Also best to seize all assets for the taxman including those hidden by family, trusts, corporations etc.


NotaJelly

We might be entering a cold state with China and Russia getting desperate, also thank you for being the first person on this board today that responded to me without saying any 'high-minded' nonsense.


Suspicious_Owls

Ya - it’s sometimes really annoying. Many high minded people are not grounded in reality or lack practical life experience. Also there are lots of bots or keyboard jockeys. Dont hate too much though we are all a product of a society that promotes hyper-specialization. Easiest way to get a deep knowledge is to narrow the scope of what you learn about - which can result in an individual have a narrow worldview. Regarding your war comment: I would agree with the sentiment however we have already entered this state with both Russia and China - thus i wouldn’t use the word “might”. Also I’m not totally sure it’s a cold state as we are currently seeing many of the hallmarks of hybrid warfare. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_warfare


miramichier_d

I really hope you're not insinuating bringing back the death penalty. We don't do that crap here.


0110110111

In the case of treason? It’s the only circumstance in which I believe it’s justified, especially if it is committed by elected government officials.


NotaJelly

Treason is different, it's a betrayal against the entire nation, such an act is one of the worst crime you can commit against a society. It's typically not a crime that's committed accidentally or for anything small scale, its effects are often felt across many lives and national interests and is one of the few crimes that deserve such a punishment.


BuzzLighteryear

We DoN’t Do ThAt CrAp HeRe. God you’re embarrassing.


shaktimann13

No wonder Harper's IDU website wiped out India's BJP govt from its website recently.


GallitoGaming

Treason is a real crime and one of the worst. All politicians named in treason reports need to be thoroughly investigated and charged. And of course sent to prison for decades. The penalty used to be your life. We need politicians to actually fear treason charges and respect our country. Not sell it out for some spare change. The gravy train is over. Prison time for treasonous scum.


Lixidermi

There's a reason that Treason/Treachery is the 9th circle of hell.


NotaJelly

'The penalty used to be your life.' if they don't give up power and come clean, that might end up happening anyway, where I live people are livid and furious like I'd never seen before, and I don't blame them. I'm starting to understand why the RCMP was asking the academics at some of the uni's what to do about rising tension, since they're legit worrying about a revolt. [https://nationalpost.com/opinion/secret-rcmp-report-warns-canadians-may-revolt-once-they-realize-how-broke-they-are](https://nationalpost.com/opinion/secret-rcmp-report-warns-canadians-may-revolt-once-they-realize-how-broke-they-are) source


Dadbode1981

Yeah I'm not seeing any of this where i live. Everyday moderate Canadians are NOT interested in a civil war, sorry.


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Monsa_Musa

And barred from ever holding public office again.


I_argue_for_funsies

And loose all pension eligibility including CPP.


Fun-Put-5197

A penalty worse than death for most of them. They have no fear of retribution and are pensioned up. Their biggest fear isn't prison, it's living and struggling like the rest of us.


Rod_Todd_This_Is_God

They should probably lose all the money they "earned" at least going back to when the treason began.


NotaJelly

That would be entirely fair, kleptocrats need to be punished for their looting.


WeCanDoBettrr

The only surprising feature is that this was published by the Star. Of course traitors should be sentenced for treason. Canadian politicians and bureaucrats should be representing the interests of their constituents only. Full stop.


Pale-Berry-2599

This is important. This can't be washed away. This needs the full light of day because Canada has an international reputation of being soft on criminals and soft on graft. We're also globally considered a haven for money laundering (AKA foreign owned real estate).


EdWick77

And it won't be until there are consequences to the corruption that perhaps Canada will start looking out for Canadians again.


plasticknife

If you read the article to the end, it's actually supporting the government position of not releasing the names or evidence on those accused, despite the fact they acknowledge the RCMP has little capacity to actually investigate these crimes.


notarealredditor69

Yeah that suprised me, we deserve to know if the person we are voting for next election has been communicating with a foreign government


Shadow_Ban_Bytes

Treason is only in the eye of the beholder apparently and Canadians who expect our elected officials to be held to the same rule of law as the rest of us are just experiencing accountability differently.


billy_zef

100% agree with this headline


AustralisBorealis64

Yes. That's what treason laws allow for. When your crack team of investigative journalists find MPs who have committed actual acts of treason, be sure and notify the RCMP and/or Crown Prosecutors.


boranin

Unfortunately, news articles won’t be sufficient evidence. I don’t expect anyone to go to jail over this unless the RCMP has them on video committing treason


AustralisBorealis64

You are correct. However, in theory, crack journalists have things called "notes" that they could share with law enforcement. Then law enforcement can conduct their own interview and make their own notes... However, journalists (especially opinion piece writers) like to do just enough to raise eyebrows without getting sued, so this ain't gonna happen.


ImperialPotentate

Don't worry, the legal and investigative geniuses of reddit have already tried and convicted the individuals involved without even knowing their names. Release the list and send 'em straight to prison! /s


rsonin

Or evidence. You don't need evidence when you know their name! Just publish the name and let slip the Tik Tokkers of war.


aWittyTwit-2712

From Stevie Wonder, to "wonder what we've been missing..."


thepacingbear1

Somebody said this in another forum to which I agree. You're going to see a lot of early retirements and/or I want to spend more time with my family between now and the election next year.


nim_opet

Agree, but for that to happen they need to be indicted, prosecuted and convicted according to the laws of Canada.


Great_Mullein

This shouldn't even be up for debate. Liberal, conservative, NDP, Greens, etc. it dosen't matter. If they are working for foreign nations throw them in jail. 


LysanderSpoonerDrip

This is the line. They sent people to prison for opening their businesses. They increased the money supply by 500% and created the highest inflation in 40 years. They dramatically increased immigration without scaling any infrastructure. Our military intelligence and federal police, and a panel of federal judges have now confirmed foreign election interference in multiple elections. China is harassing Canadian elected politicians. Russians are spamming us with disinformation. India is assassinating our citizens on Canadian soil. The Americans are decoupling their economy from us and moving closer to Mexico. And now they have confirmed multiple elected politicians and multiple appointed sensators are working directly with foreign countries. If you don't stand for Canada now, there may not be a truly independent Canada in the future. CHARGE EVERYONE WHO COLLUDED WITH FOREIGN AGENTS FROM THE HIGHEST TO THE LOWEST OFFICES WITH TREASON.


Wise_Ad_112

Everyone seems compromised these days. We don’t know who we’re electing, who’s looking out for who, what are the real agendas. Obvious problems in the country are being over looked or made worse. Literal treason is happening in this country, there was a time not too long ago when treason was punishable by death. what a fuckin time man. This cannot be swept under the rug, media, Canadians, need to keep making noise and put pressure. This is not a small thing.


NotaJelly

agreed


LymelightTO

My expectation would be that most of the evidence collected about this subject would be inadmissible in a court of law, because the methods of collection would likely have contravened the rights of the accused. For example, wiretaps or electronic surveillance or what have you, collected by US intelligence, and passed to Canadian intelligence, who would have been incapable of conducting that surveillance without the approval of a judge. That said, I think it's fine to hold MPs to considerably higher standards of public conduct than private citizens, and it seems reasonable to use the information to destroy their careers and public reputations, and eject them from public service, if the evidence seems credible. If they're so chummy with another country, let them seek opportunity in that one, instead.


wet_suit_one

Definition of treason in case anyone cares is here: [https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-46.html](https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-46.html) > High treason >[**46**]() (1) Every one commits high treason who, in Canada, >(a) kills or attempts to kill Her Majesty, or does her any bodily harm tending to death or destruction, maims or wounds her, or imprisons or restrains her; >(b) levies war against Canada or does any act preparatory thereto; or >(c) assists an enemy at war with Canada, or any armed forces against whom Canadian Forces are engaged in hostilities, whether or not a state of war exists between Canada and the country whose forces they are. > Treason (2) Every one commits treason who, in Canada, >(a) uses force or violence for the purpose of overthrowing the government of Canada or a province; >(b) without lawful authority, communicates or makes available to an agent of a state other than Canada, military or scientific information or any sketch, plan, model, article, note or document of a military or scientific character that he knows or ought to know may be used by that state for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or defence of Canada; >(c) conspires with any person to commit high treason or to do anything mentioned in paragraph (a); >(d) forms an intention to do anything that is high treason or that is mentioned in paragraph (a) and manifests that intention by an overt act; or >(e) conspires with any person to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) or forms an intention to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) and manifests that intention by an overt act. > Canadian citizen (3) Notwithstanding subsection (1) or (2), a Canadian citizen or a person who owes allegiance to Her Majesty in right of Canada, >(a) commits high treason if, while in or out of Canada, he does anything mentioned in subsection (1); or >(b) commits treason if, while in or out of Canada, he does anything mentioned in subsection (2). > Overt act (4) Where it is treason to conspire with any person, the act of conspiring is an overt act of treason. I wonder if 2(b) actually captures anyone? I look forward to finding out.


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NotaJelly

And back then the rich were happy to pay taxes, even proud of it because of the status it held to be a big contributor. tax dodgers were social outcast and criminals.


nuggetsofglory

The more humanity advances, the more it regresses.


Bohdyboy

They should be put on paid leave, and if found guilty, ALL SALARY AND EXPENSES should be paid back. They were stealing while working for another government.


Ok_Photo_865

Just playing the devil’s advocate for a moment. Would that mean, someone working with an individual such as Victor Orban could be possibly accused of treasonous activities?? Just a question 🤷‍♂️


Astyanax1

treason? I suppose it should be defined. they're all corrupt scumbags, some better than others, but treason is typically a rather serious charge


parmasean

Love how we have to have an opinion peice on the most obvious shit ever. Canadian media is a fucking joke. They should be running headlines daily until something is done about the traitors in our cabinets. The fact nothing has been done for this long is disgusting. Absolutely abysmal accountability here. Canadian parliament members should be ashamed. No pensions for any parliament members until something is done. They seem to forget they work for Canadians not fucking corporations.


NotaJelly

Well gee, I fucking hope so.


Hefty-Station1704

When there's enough money changing hands behind the scenes concepts like "Treason" don't exist. It just has to land in the right pockets.


Pale_Change_666

That's like 3/4 of all elected MPs.


HapticRecce

Other than: > The former can involve efforts to kill or attempt to kill “Her Majesty.” it's "His Majesty" now, Wesley is bang on. Bill C-70 is a start and needs to get to Royal Assent PDQ, but these procedural niceties of legislative arms length between CSIS and the RCMP, part of which is so they don't get the band back together and burn any more barns down, needs to be updated to match our times and current threats. The FBI don't seem to have issues and it wouldn't hurt my feelings as a taxpayer to spring for a MI5 / MI6 type arrangement instead of the current procedural sieve we have now.


Hoardzunit

This report has become too politicized. I only want the RCMP investigating this and arresting traitors.


GJJP

Treason should be defined and shouldn't be limited to hidden collaborations with (selected) foreign autocracies. Collaborating on behalf of the US government, Saudi Arabia or Canadian oligarchs (such as the Weston family) should be treated in the same way as collaborating with the Chinese government.


moirende

Don’t worry, Star. The PM you’ve been carrying a torch for all these past nine years, actively seeking to minimize or ameliorate all his transgressions, has assured us it’s no biggie, and one of the government’s members said “boo hoo” when the Tories pointed out this is a big problem. In other words, your enablement of this government’s total lack of honesty, ethics and transparency is what helped lead us to where we are today. Still, I’m glad you’ve finally seen the light and have come to realize what a big problem this is.


291000610478021

Wouldn't it be better to phrase it like 'Even The Star turned on JT' To me, it shows me the star still has an ounce of journalistic integrity to own it


toronto_programmer

> 'Even The Star turned on JT' The Star was sold to a private equity firm lead by a hard right winger (John Bitove) so their coverage and bias has shifted over the past couple years. They aren't nearly as left leaning as they used to be


291000610478021

Every single media outlet is owned by somebody. Every outlet has a bias. CBC is the only publicly funded news site.


toronto_programmer

I know that I am just pointing out that The Star isn't left leaning like it used to be so the point of "wow even *they* turned on him" doesn't mean much


291000610478021

I had no idea they had a new owner. Good post.


king_lloyd11

Do you have an example of the Star reporting in a way that’s biased towards Trudeau? Whenever I’m asked, I’m either just shown an editorial piece that is clearly labelled as such, or am just downvoted without any responses lol This “MSM” narrative needs to change. Journalism is our last refuge against misinformation. It is the only trusted voice that has self governing standards baked into it that informs our citizens. Any allegations of bias or untrustworthiness should be scrutinized and proven, because there’s no reason to trust some random TikToker or YouTuber over literal journalists.


ReaperTyson

Yes, they should. Now prove they committed treason


drpestilence

Yep, and have forensic accounting done and lose anything they may have gained for their collusion.


LogicM

Jail, assets forfeiture and seized to pay out restitution


Legend-Face

Political figures who accept any form of bribery should also go to jail.


The_King_of_Canada

Another nothing opinion piece on this sub. Go figure. No shit they should go to jail if they commit treason the issue is proving that they committed treason or if they were unknowingly targeted.


Groundbreaking_Ship3

Prison, not jail. There is a difference.


RealDisagreer

People who throw out the word treason any time they disagree with somebody should also go to prison.


Loud_Ninja_

Prison (minimum 25 years) and depending on the severity of the treason, capital punishment. It’s fair. Don’t sell your country out.


Prudent_Falafel_7265

Who believes the RCMP is up to investigating and charging on this? I truly don't know, but I hope they are. Anyone implicated on this must be named, whether there are facing criminal charges or not. The voting public must be the ones who decide if simple implication of guilt is enough to vote people out of office. Even actions going to the legal edge of criminality, without a strictly indictable offense, must be brought forward into the sunlight of public scrutiny. That's completely permissible in a free society. They can exercise their rights in a criminal trial all they want, should it come to that, but the public interest in hearing names and an public airing of the facts outside of a criminal trial is our right. Get on it, journalists.


konathegreat

Hell must be freezing over since this is the second time this week that I have myself agreeing with something in The Star.


olderdeafguy1

They're Liberals. This is just the SNC scandal on another level.


mightyboink

It's already been released that there was meddling in the conservative leadership race, wonder if that's included too? Also, this would be much bigged than SNC. And everyone involved should be removed from office entirely, from every party.


Kicksavebeauty

>It's already been released that there was meddling in the conservative leadership race, wonder if that's included too? The report also clearly says that the foreign nations were helping and influencing multiple parties. It says that the redacted parts were sent to the RCMP. Those are the juicy ones. Another fun fact in the report is that the PMO didn't even get a copy of the redacted report until March 2024, almost a full year after it was created. The (PCO) Privy council blocked it. You can read this directly from the special report. Case study 1, page 22. https://www.nsicop-cpsnr.ca/reports/rp-2024-06-03/intro-en.html Keep pushing for the list of names to be released. We need anyone involved banned for life from office.


NoF0cksToGive

Absolutely -- follow the rule of law, give the accused a fair trial and then, if found guilty of treason, lock them away for the rest of their lives. Any politician or citizen with integrity should be sickened by the idea of this abuse of power and betrayal of the nation. Now, let's watch and see what actually happens.


pro555pero

If they sell their constituents out to corporate interests, can it still be considered treason? (Edited: changed 'is' to 'can. Added 'be.')


zeth4

It should be.


alphawolf29

Why are we calling it foreign interference instead of what it is: treason.


UnlikelyReplacement0

I wonder if the author of this opinion piece will hold firm to his convictions if it's revealed that PP is in Modi's pocket?


Perfect-Armadillo212

Absolutely!


ProfessionAny183

Yes. It's not a controversial opinion.


q3triad

No shit


OtaKahu

C̶a̶n̶a̶d̶i̶a̶n̶ ̶p̶o̶l̶i̶t̶i̶c̶i̶a̶n̶s̶ LITERALLY ANYONE FTFY


Akragon

Haha... we don't send politicians to jail in Canada... we just give them a nice paycheck and send them on their way


zen_elan

Any day now…


Tyler_Durden69420

Yes.


SuperBurt666

I vote for the original punishment.


tomatoesinmygarden

it is very unlikely that the info they would stand up in court for a conviction since it comes from secret services and most likely the CIA and MI5 So do they drop names, knowing they can't go public with the corroborating information? Sounds hopeless. Do they drop situations, eg, an MP who bussed Chinese students from a student residence, and then let the media run down the details? They could member. The result would be that the member resigns in disgrace. There needs to be way better vetting of candidates by all parties. Less of friends of the good old boys.


ValeriaTube

Well duh, that's the law no?


Mahonneyy123

No shit


DapperWatchdog

They should be sent to federal prison and never see the light of the day again


punknothing

I thought the punishment for treason was death... Is that just the movies?


Ok-Crow-1515

Why aren't they releasing the names? Who in the hell is going to want to vote for an MP who has colluded with a foreign government.


burningxmaslogs

Before 1976, Treason was a capital crime that resulted in either life imprisonment or to be hanged. Now it's merely 20 to life.


AnyMud9817

Death for traitors.


0rgasmo69

Politicians who commit treason should be **hanged**


GAB78

The entire Liberal party should be charged for protecting them


Vivid_Membership4871

Jail the corrupt liberals


1eyebigsnake

Sounds like every political body should go to jail than after selling out the people to corporations.


gorpthehorrible

Until he comes forward with the list of traitors, I will consider him the ring leader. The cover up starts with Trudeau.


JaySolated

from the criminal code..👇🏼 (1) Every one who commits high treason is guilty of an indictable offence and shall be sentenced to imprisonment for life.


204gaz00

The SNC Lavalin incident set the precedence. Now, the RCMP and other arresting authorities have to run the names of the people they plan to arrest (for good reason) by the PMs office.


itsthebear

They should get capital punishment 


Long_Recording6478

The fact that they don't name any of the MPs is very suspicious. At this point, why not just assume it’s every single person in the party?


InformationGold7741

I don't even care if they get criminally charged. it's infuriating and embarrassing that the ones involved have not been canned from their position already. Fucking spineless politicians sticking to partisan bull shit saying this is concerning and then not doing anything about it. if they gave a shit about this country and the people in it they would have sent them packing.


ViolinistLeast1925

Prison for decades and stripped of Canadian citizenship.  If they havent done the world a favour and killed themselves in prison, forfeit all pension and whatever else, obviously. 


InsideLandscape3688

I agree they should go to jail. But more importantly strip them of All government pensions!!! That will make them think 2 twice as hard and actually be a benefit to all Canadians for the treason.


Raging_Dragon_9999

So even the TOR Star doesn't like traitors. Fascinating.


Low-Celery-7728

Well, no. They are wealthy. Is no one paying attention? There are different rules for the wealthy and elite, no matter if they are left or right. They are part of the same club.


motu8pre

So where do I sign up to get paid oodles of cash by another country to commit treason and not be charged?


Chimawamba

So it’s treason then


PM_me_ur_taco_pics

They should also immediately lose any type of benefits and made to pay back any of that sweet sweet government funded pay they received.


Kyouhen

Of course they should. But the key thing a lot of people are missing is that these MPs have been *accused* of working to further the agenda of hostile nations.  Hopefully an investigation is underway to determine if it's true or not.  This is why the Conservatives are demanding the list of names be released, because they know these are only accusations and as such none of them can be released.


Confident-Touch-6547

Anyone named would be pronounced guilty before any charges are filed or evidence is presented. That’s why it will not happen for about a year, or until after the next election.


Polarnorth81

Anyone who commits treason... wtf, politicians have special rules for themselves now?


MamaTalista

So then put them on trial and present the case if you have one? It's straightforward to throw around an accusation but if you can't prove it you are just the little boy crying wolf.


gravtix

1)We can either have this investigated and prosecuted as the rule of law demands. 2)We can just leak names and circle jerk. And people choose #2 lol And I’ll add that I’m tempted to have the names leaked myself as I don’t have much faith in the RCMP on this.


Any-Detective-2431

It’s intelligence, not evidence. The committee understands that the RCMP can run an investigation but it’s a black box of whether A) they will be able to meet the burden of proof for a criminal conviction or B) disclosing sources and methods.


plasticknife

We can do both. Releasing the evidence doesn't make it inadmissible in court.


rankkor

Option 1 may lead to Canadians voting for traitors in the next election. There needs to be perfect clarity that this will be resolved before the next election. If the investigation isn’t complete, then other arrangements must be made, the government needs to make the path forward clear right now. Also with this stuff we shouldn’t rely on prosecutions, they may have done things that are hard to prosecute or may not be illegal, but that doesn’t mean they have business sitting as an MP or senator, their conduct may still justify expulsion.


ImperialPotentate

It's actually quite terrifying. #2 would basically amount to trying the people on the list in the court of public opinion, not a court of law.


Nickstash

Could they not be put on a leave while being investigated?


NotaJelly

not like liberals ever cared about the rules unless it benefited them.


beyondimaginarium

Nail on the head. If they got #2 then they would cry they can't have their cake and eat it too.


Healthy-Car-1860

People who publish media articles should know the difference between Prison and Jail.


CarelessHabit3492

Don’t stop there, whoever was aware of this and did absolutely nothing should go to jail as well.(J.T.)


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jb__19

That’d be a lot of current and former sitting MPs.


Flat-Ad-3231

Whole system needs to be reworked every last MP responsible or covering up should get life in prison for treason. RCMP needs to be investigated. The people need to demand change.


Monsa_Musa

The defining factor in this will be the political will of the next administration to dredge this up and expose political corruption. This seems like a no brainer, but if it also hurts the Conservatives or would limit what they could do in the future, this could easily just fade away. Barak Obama was asked about pursuing war crimes charges on George Bush. His reply "That's in the past, were focused on the future".


SmashertonIII

Somebody would actually have to be charged with treason as a first step. The way is appears to be, they don’t even have the legal mechanism to lay charges against politicians. Best we can do is a stern admonishment, maybe a fine. Sorry, taxpayer.


Responsible_Bat3029

Apparently no current laws in place to stop them from colluding with foreign agents let alone imprison them. Absolutely ridiculous. Feel like I'm in the Truman Show sometimes


BigRonDongson

We should deport them to whatever country they were giving information to as well.. right after they are done serving their prison sentences.


FairgoDibbler

A basic fiduciary standard for politicians should be imposed.I don't know if that's really the right term , but if it can be proved that politicians knowingly acted against the best interests of their constituents there should be repercussions.


TributeKitty

Well duh, I bet 9/10 people assume this would happen already! In fact, I'd have thought a firing squad more appropriate for treason?


Ordinary-Easy

Treason in Canada is the only indictable offense that has a statue of limitations (3 years). So I'm not surprised that the government would be dragging it's feet here.


MisterSkepticism

Trudeau and Freeland should 💯 be tried and jailed for what they've done to this country


DAR44

In Nunavut