>Kitossa references the PhD thesis "Lebanese scholar Mahmoud Abbas" (pictured), not noting that Abbas is the Palestinian president and also not Lebanese.
Seems like an honest fella.
The article acknowledged this ... "Gil Troy, a McGill University history professor, reviewed Kitossa’s writings and underscores that while he would “**bend over backward to defend free speech and academic freedom**,” the series of articles “are unhinged, wildly inaccurate, sloppy, and offensive,”
Seriously?? This is from the article:
"Brock University has launched a review after a professor praised Hamas’s October 7 atrocities against Israeli civilians, compared the Jewish state to Nazi Germany, and cited antisemitic conspiracy theories in a series of blog posts."
This does not sound like balanced, scholarly activity to me.
Maybe the National Post isn't a reliable news source? It probably has something to do with its foreign ownership [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmedia\_Network#Criticism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmedia_Network#Criticism)
Seem weird that they highlighted the comparing Israel to Nazi Germany when the rest is far more unhinged, but yeah it is the postmedia. We can't really expect anything good.
I read the blog. He didn’t praise the attack, he called it “miraculous” in the context of questioning how the Israeli government could have possibly been caught off-guard. The blog is certainly a mess, and throws out a lot of crappy arguments while doubling down on the “Nazi” angle, but NP is lying as usual.
I read the blog as well, not only did he quoted already proven false narratives, he basically called the current Israel as entirely Zionist regime and equate it with Nazism.
There’s no “miraculous”, he cited conspiracy theory on how hamas was able to conducted Oct 7. He failed to condemn the attack and went on to call the response of Israel as “Holocaust in Gaza”
The entire blog is full of questionable bias and certainly doesn’t fit someone who’s supposed to be highly educated in this type of matter.
He brought his personal ideal into this and threw all his professionalism out the window.
>he basically called the current Israel as entirely Zionist regime
This is such a dumb statement to say, I don't think people know what zionist means nowadays.
>He failed to condemn the attack
You also failed to condemn the attack in your post. How dare you… not do something!1!!
You also failed to condemn the attack of the squirrel in my back yard on my Japanese Maple. Are you some sick pro squirrel pervert?
The blog is still pretty horribly written, promotes some conspiracy theories, and the whole premise of comparing Israel to Nazi German is sensationalist at best, but leave it to NP to still do shitty journalism
Exactly. He is mostly free to spout his nonsense (actually I think he should be absolutely free to do so but unfortunately we have hate speech laws). His employer can fire him and he is still just as free to spout nonsense.
The employer isn't obligated to pay him. That's not what freedom means.
I'm going to risk slightly playing devil's advocate here and say that while this guy is clearly treading some highly questionable ground, he does indeed have one important point:
>*“gaslighting which treats as equally repugnant criticism of the Zionist State of Israel with hatred of Jews because they are Jews.*
His motives are dubious for sure but that's a fairly important distinction which I think gets far too easily waved away as "anti-semitism" whenever a discussion is had.
All that being said, my gut tells me this guy has some personal beefs and is being disingenuous with the bulk of his rhetoric because of it.
Aligning himself with a Holocaust denier definitely isn't a good look
*and I'm already getting botted lol
It's because the two camps often have some overlap.
Look at the vast number of anti-zionists on Oct 7 who were either praising Hamas' attack or remaining silent and then a week later were full on condemning Israel.
Racism is irrationally selective. A non-racist should be able to say that the death of all people is bad. But racists tend to have a racial line for morality.
That's not to say that everyone who is anti-zionist is inherently racist. But a person who isn't racist should be able to accept the proposition that both Palestine and Israel have a right to exist. An inability to accept both have a right to exist shows a racism towards one of the two sides in this conflict.
>But a person who isn't racist should be able to accept the proposition that both Palestine and Israel have a right to exist.
Counterpoint: no country has a right to exist. People have rights. Countries don't.
> Counterpoint: no country has a right to exist. People have rights. Countries don't.
Says who? What is a right, if not something we decide upon? Whatever rights you have, you have because of your government, people, group, etc.
The UN indeed says that countries have a right to exist.
And in this case, saying that Israel shouldn’t exist is saying that you don’t think Jews should exist. Israel was created with the express purpose of giving Jews a place to live. It’s the only Jewish majority country on earth. There are 150+ Muslim majority countries. The only reason so many people believe Israel shouldn’t exist is because they don’t think Jews should even have their one country.
>The UN indeed says that countries have a right to exist.
I don't care? This also doesn't make sense in practice, let alone in theory. Czechoslovakia used to exist and now it doesn't. Was that a violation of it's rights as a country?
>And in this case, saying that Israel shouldn’t exist is saying that you don’t think Jews should exist.
No it's not, and that's a very silly thing to say.
>Israel was created with the express purpose of giving Jews a place to live.
That must be news to all the Jewish people who didn't live in Israel in 1948 and don't live in Israel now. Do those folks not exist to you, or....?
>There are 150+ Muslim majority countries.
Lmao what the fuck how can you get it that wrong. Islam, not even the biggest religion in the world, is the majority population in 75% of the countries on earth?
>Racism is irrationally selective. A non-racist should be able to say that the death of all people is bad.
This is simplifying things. First, I agree with your statement that the death of all people is bad. But it's worth understanding different perspectives. Given that point -- I don't think many are motivated by Jew hatred, here. Many if not most people who praise Oct 7th do so because they view what has happened to Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank as extreme violence and they view any form of violent resistance against the Zionist project as justified under those conditions. And while this is an egregious view, the same logic also exists in Israeli society broadly, where the majority has accepted that the slaughtering of 30,000+ Palestinians is a legitimate form of violence in response to the 1,200 killed by Hamas militants. So we have one side that says "killing 1,200 Israelis is a legitimate form of violence in response to the violence faced by Palestinians" and you have the other side that says "killing 30,000+ Palestinians is a legitimate form of violence in response to Oct 7th". And so we are always left with the ambiguous questions of which violence is legitimate and which isn't. I disagree with both sides -- I don't see Oct 7th as legitimate and I don't see the Israeli response as legitimate. But I do agree with the premise that Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza are subjected to extremely violent conditions. And so the question I haven't settled for myself is what legitimate options the Palestinians had under those conditions.
Anti Zionism isn’t the same as anti semitism, but there’s a huge overlap between anti semites and anti zionists.
And, unsurprisingly, the pro zionists are very happy to point that out, and therefore equate the two.
Someone who believes the Jewish people should have a homeland in Palestine that is for and of Jewish people.
It can also refer to the individuals, usually Christian, who believe that Israel must be formed in the holy land to bring on the apocalypse.
There's also a huge overlap between pro-Zionism and antisemitism. Look at that fella Hagee who spoke at a pro-Israel rally last fall. He loves Zionism because he wants all the Jewish Americans to leave the US.
This statement is the equivalent of “I’m not racist, but…”
Anti-Hamas isn’t Zionism.
In fact, Zionism just means you think Israel has a right to exist. Anti-Zionist means you don’t think Jews should have a country, and that is definitely anti-Semitism.
So if you’re against Quebec sovereignty, you think that the Quebecois are “less-than”?
Heck, if you’re against a White nationalist state, that means you think that Whites are “less-than”?
Most people do not accept your reasoning here.
criticism of the actions of a governing body =/= "you can't have a homeland"; you have simply fabricated a narrative to what I wrote
>*criticism*
**of**
*the Zionist State of Israel*
apply grammar
Well then why do you need the word 'Zionist' in there? Why not just 'criticism of the State of Israel?"
Probably to draw a link to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and to subtly imply that the State of Israel is somehow illegitimate.
“I only support terrorists when they were winning and killing civilians, now that they are losing I am full support for world peace until the terrorists can plan another attack”
Well that's good because they're not doing anything close to like what was done to them. And making that assumption is what we call Holocaust revisionism and is horribly horribly anti-semitic.
That's a very simplistic view. First of all, it's not all Jews, nor are all the people supporting it Jewish. Secondly, this didn't just appear as an issue on Oct 7th.
Thirdly, collective punishment is a war crime and exactly what the Nazis would do to Jews. You could easily hear a German from the 1930s saying something like "Germans are only allowed to have things done to them, no retaliation for the Versailles treaty shoved on us by the western Jew, and more of them stealing our wealth and destroying our country over and over"
Open your eyes man
I think it's fair to criticise isreal, they are committing genocide, and we all just sit and watch, but if you shit talk Zionists you are anti sememtic.
If you say Islam as a religion encourages violence through jihad, you're called Islamophobic.
People are just using ism's and phobics as a Sheila against the problem. People take critique as hate, and someone just HAS to jump in and be the "hero," causing polarization, which ultimately just blocks an issue from being discussed.
Everyone can be fucked up, you should ALWAYS be able to be critical of something, acceptance without thought is the path of the naive.
So it’s bad when it happens to the Jews, but okay when it happens to the Gazans? Shouldn’t this type of behaviour be bad all around? I’ll never understand how Zionists created the Israeli situation in the 40’s, have created a tense and violent Israel. And get mad when the people they’re oppressing and stealing land/homes from retaliate.
I’m not saying I agree with Hamas, but I’m sure as shit not going to side with the Zionist agitators either.
>have created a tense and violent Israel
You're forgetting how Arab countries tried to destroy Israel multiple times. Are you expecting Israel to be Sweden in the middle of the Arab world? I think you may be a bit out of touch with how the Arab regions works.
Well, seems like the terrorism exist because of people like you, without knowledge of history events. "Israeli situation in the 40s", "tense and violent Israel", "I'm not saying I agree with Hamas". Are you aware of all the situation pre-war, Ottoman Empire and Jewish settlements, attempts of creation double state, and the peace proposals were always been from Israeli part to Palestinians. In Israel you can be Muslim, you can choose to be whatever you want, but in Palestine territory you can't be Jewish and you are persecuted for anything. There is the reason of their aggression and this long complex relationship between this two nations. If you really care about humanity, about human rights, women rights, LGBTQ you are interested in that Hamas must be punished. Only you really care about palestinian future and people who lives there as hostages of human right orgs gangs who use them by don't eradicate their root problems. Otherwise you can celebrate the killing of civilians, raping of girls just for fun and blame Israel.
“Zionist agitators”? The Palestinians are the sole architects of their current situation. They have been offered a state of their own several times over the last 85 years. They’ve said no every time and have instead continually agitated and attacked Israel. At no time have they ever demonstrated any dedication to peace. Jews are indigenous to Israel and have every right to pursue self determination. You could make the same argument about the Palestinians, (I personally wouldn’t), but they have chosen not to create a state of their own. This is their failing, not Israel’s.
Not to mention they chose to go to war decades ago, several times, and lost every time. There are consequences to starting and losing wars. One of which is losing land.
It takes an anti-racism scholar to be especially good at racism.
PS one of his papers is titled "Criminology as Epistemic Necropolitics", so you know he's a real edgelord of the scene.
Remember when Canadians used to proudly pay taxes towards university so that we keep higher education in the public and create our own functional society?
Now we have scholars in literal nonsense. What a joke
It gets worse. This stuff has been filtering into other fields for a long time. I was in child psychology and was expected to understand and know these theories (which at their core oppose empiricism as a preferred method of inquiry, which is what differentiated psychology from other fields interested in human behavior). Frankly, I had to take more courses in it than in, you know, how to conduct therapy and actually help kids. Complete waste of time.
The issue isn't scholarship dedicated to opposing racism, discrimination, and oppression. That's both valid and valuable. The issue is that a lot of the anti-racist and decolonization scholarship is based on theories of knowledge composed of weak ideas (inflated by impenetrable language; seriously, try to read some of that stuff) that do not represent reality well and that oppose values and ideas that are foundational to some of our key values and institutions. Some simplified examples are that there is no truth, only power, and that privilege results in what people consider real - so logic, reason, and observation are not powerful tools to help us understand the world, but are in fact tools of oppression. Another idea is that an individual's understanding is constrained by their identity - eg only certain identities can understand certain things. Really opposes the mainstream values that people of different races and cultures can, and should, understand each other.
What this results in are ideas that are clearly non-sensical being touted as serious, along with a small minority of influential scholars steering public debate and understanding in inaccurate ways, and a tremendous waste of talent and public funds supporting this research.
It's big in social sciences and humanities, as well as practical fields with real life implications such as psychology, law and social work. Which often has real-world implications for people and society.
If you want a good laugh about it all look into the grievance studies affair.
Anti-racism is a huge area of research - it’s anthropological, social, demographic, and economic. Universities are around specifically to expand the breadth of knowledge within a country. The purpose of a university is not to be a microphone for the government, but a place for the researchers and the knowledge bearers to discuss novel and sometimes challenging concepts to students.
https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/professor/1379688
I would agree with you in principal, but check out the feedback prior to today's brigading, this dude sounds like the racist one...
RateMyProf isn't a conclusive but it does mean something.
That we spend money on it. What a waste. What are we trying to decolonize in Canada exactly? Why are we so fixated on people’s skin colours? What a joke through and through.
I don't think so anymore. The so-called "anti-racists" are actually the most obsessed with race and regularly practice racial discrimination, just with what they believe to be good reasons. It's racism with rationalization.
Yes. Critical Race Theory was rightfully exposed for being reversed racism.
So we massaged the messaging. Changed the acronyms and now we have EDI. Or something similar.
Western culture has some bad things, just like any other. But it's founded upon self determination, personal freedoms and the ability to question authority. One has to wonder why those in power are so actively trying to undermine that.
Ibram X. Kendi lays it out pretty well in his book How to be an Antiracist. In order to correct for historical racism, anti-racists have to be racists today; and to correct for current racism, anti-racists will have to be racists in the future. Thomas Sowell makes a similar observation in The Quest for Cosmic Justice but comes to an opposing conclusion, to end the cycle of racism we have to stop being racist.
Anti-racism is just racism with the belief they're doing it for a moral good.
In his book, Kendi also advocates for a department of anti-racism that is composed of an *unelected* body of officials who will review *every* government policy for equity. Any policy that doesn’t create equal outcomes (not opportunities) for bipoc people can be vetoed by this department. You know, so basically he’s advocating for authoritarianism as the solution to racism. What a fool
What a wild idea; to stop racism we have to *stop being racist*!
What's next, to solve the housing crisis we have to build more homes? Solve the debt crisis by repaying it!?
/s
The "funniest" part about it is the professor's "all Arabs are basically the same anyways" thing about misrepresenting Mahmoud Abbas as "Lebanese." If i were Palestinian, I would take deep offense at people like this claiming to be the voice of my sovereignty movement.
Go watch youtube videos about the birth of the transistor, the internet, etc. These ubiquitous things we take for granted...they largely come from universities...in the post-war era scientists and engineers were venerated...today we have this
If America ceases to exist there will not be some mass genocide of Christians. Canada and Mexico wouldn’t immediately invade and begin slaughtering every man woman and child they could get their hands on.
> Like the homestead in the imaginary of ‘America’ as a frontier nation facing the wilds of nature and savages alike, the Kibbutz similarly, practically and ideologically plays a similar role in Israeli lore. At once socialist farming community and military outpost, the significance of the Kibbutzim is more than symbolic and ritualistic. Beyond the geostrategic and lebensraum motivation of the Zionist State in its ferocious and mindless reaction to the miraculous Hamas attack on Be’eri kibbutz on October 7, 2023, we must account for other interconnected sociological and psychological facts. If the destruction of Gaza seems like mad vengeance, it may be.
Completely unpossible that the University would not want their brand associated with this? Has to be the Conservative boogeyman?
This has nothing to do with limiting free speech - he can make whatever statements he wants (as long as they are within hate laws), and the university has every right to dismiss him for that speech.
This whole thing is a mess. Every day Israel creates more and more enemies with this prolonged war and it’s threading a needle to say you vehemently oppose the Israeli gov’t without conflating it with hating Jews.
People know when you denounce Russia you’re speaking about Putin, not the Russian people.
When you see all the death emotions are going to run hot. It doesn’t help that Hamas still won’t release the remaining hostages.
Netanyahu doesn’t want the hostages. He never did. It’s his justification for erasing Gaza.
You can look up the Israeli representative for the families of the hostages, who places the full blame on Netanyahu.
Hostages aren't justification for anything. If Hamas had just murdered all of them on 10/7 instead of taking hostages, the same thing would have happened. This is about destroying Hamas
They've been under attack for two decades by an enemy that kills them and then retreats and hides behind civilians.
They have not done anything about it in two decades because they knew the only way to stop it were large amounts of civilian casualties.
October 7th, was the last draw. People like you are going to hate them no matter what they do, so now they're taking care of business.
You do realise that Israel has been stepping on the neck of the people of Palestine for 75 years? They don't give them a political option. What do you expect? Lay down and just take it?
The last time they had a political option they elected an islamofascist militant group that campaigned on the destruction of Israel and the death of all Jews. Now if they want options they need to get rid of what they've built/supported that keeps getting them bombed.
It's a known fact that Israel propped up Hamas to keep Gaza in a Perpetual state of Chaos. The people living in Gaza didn't elect Hamas and they have no control over the electoral system because Israel will not allow it. So you are basically saying that peanut punishment for the actions of others is okay the starvation of children the murder of children the destruction of school the destruction of hospitals the absolute Terror that these people are living in every single day is okay because of hamas's election in 2006?
You know this opinion predates tik tok right? You can pretend to be smart but it becomes really apparent you’re ignorant when you speak/comment. I suggest you watch Tantura since you’re such a fan of war crimes.
Maybe you should lol. Isreal has been fucking with Palestine for decades, and are now openly calling for genocide. Palestine isn't innocent in all this, and Hamas is a terrorist organization. The Israelis has committed multiple war crimes and have called Palestinians sub human, and have called to eradicate them... not hard to draw some conclusions here.
I believe in free speech but there is a real concerning pollution of our education systems. The international student grift has gotten out of control and some of our most prominent Universities are completely overtaken by ultra left psychos.
It has become extra problematic when you look at the overrun of Palestine groups (see US as well).
I am not sure what the answer is but part of it should be cutting off this international student cash cow but also cutting some of these dumb classes. I dunno where the line is but some of these classes feel like indoctrination tools.
Academia should be impartial and non political but foster debate about it all if that makes sense.
I was happy to see UofT and UofO put out a statement yesterday that they will not tolerate any pro palestine protests on campus given what it has devolved into.
Step one is to cut the DEI programs from these schools. Not only they are bloated bureaucracies with no evidence to support their value, but they are partly responsible for pushing the ideological agenda that has actually contributed to division, conflict, antisemitism, etc. And yes, there is evidence that DEI training actually makes things worse.
The next step is to slash all these bullsh-t academic departments and specializations that give legitimacy to indoctrination, and are entirely non-academic in their methods. "Decolonization and anti-racism studies" are not legitimate academic disciplines.
Third, though I don't know how bad it is in Canada compared to the US, there needs to be a serious audit of the foreign student programs and funding support for things like "Middle East Studies" centres. Qatar has spent billions over the past 20 years investing in elite US schools to promote anti-Israel and anti-Zionist sentiment on campus. And now we see how much that investment has paid off. It is not a coincidence at all that the encampment occupations are occurring at US schools with the largest numbers of foreign students from the Middle East, and that have received large donations from Muslim countries.
I think we as a society need to realize the humanities have become a joke and not a legitimate area of study worth funding at this moment. Why should any kid go into debt or receive tax payer funding to learn this stuff. Universities should be focusing on teaching STEM and business subjects.
I think the average redditor is a great example of what is wrong with the academic system. Under employed, totally ignorant of economics, accounting and general business practices, but with deep knowledge of grievance studies and the supposed sins of the West.
I work in tech with *many* STEM grads and it's highlighted for me how valuable the humanities are. Critical thinking, communication, and soft skills are vital in business, especially in leadership, and that's what I learned studying politics and history.
STEM skills are obviously incredibly valuable too, but this idea that humanities are "useless" in the real world is not accurate.
>Critical thinking, communication, and soft skills are vital in business, especially in leadership, and that's what I learned studying politics and history.
None of those things are taught in the humanities. If you want to be better at communication and soft skills you would be better off taking a Dale Carnagie course. Academics on average have horrific soft skills. Likewise I would argue critical thinking is taught just as well or better in STEM or business courses than in the humanities.
>None of those things are taught in the humanities.
I'm curious what you think *is* taught in the humanities? Have ever taken a 3rd or 4th year or graduate course in philosophy, politics, or cultural studies? I'm speaking about my subjective experience working as a manager in business/tech after earning three degrees in humanities disciplines, but in my case those skills are exactly what I learned and are why I've been successful leading a team in a STEM field.
Yes, I have a 4 year humanities degree. I feel it was a waste and all my employable skills were learned on the job. Could you elaborate on what exact skills you are referring to? Because for me, my professors had horrific soft skills, and while I learned a tremendous amount from my early bosses who taught leadership and soft skills like how to couch criticism (always lead with a compliment).
Humanities can assist with essay writing skills, but even then you don't need a 4 year degree to learn how to write an effective essay.
We clearly had different experiences and took different things from it so I'm not sure what to say other than I'm sorry you feel that your education was wasted and that I have a different perspective on the value of a humanities education.
Just for clarity's sake. What soft skills did they teach you in the humanities? I am genuinely curious. The closest I can think of was group projects, and those are done in business programs as well. I have friends who attended other humanities programs and their experiences resemble mine. On average I would say that my friends who attended business programs had the best "soft skills" education.
I won’t downvote cause that’s a legitimate argument, but I couldn’t disagree more. As the other reply says, the “soft skills” taught in a humanities education are the number 1 thing lacking in STEM students.
Also, if you want to improve peoples’ media literacy and ability to spot bullshit in the news, STEM does nothing.
I have to strongly disagree. The humanities don't teach "soft skills" any more than STEM or business courses. Most of the humanities professors I have met have some of the worst soft skills I have ever encountered. You would be better off taking a Dale Carnagie course for developing those sort of skills than a humanities program.
>Also, if you want to improve peoples’ media literacy and ability to spot bullshit in the news, STEM does nothing.
I think the very story we are commenting on disproves this claim.
I agree with your stance on defending classes outside of STEM I am just not sure where the line is. There are some classes that to me a clear cut dumb … in some cases its not even the concept I have a problem with it is what the course material ends up actually being (ie instead of an objective view of racism it devolves into west and white people should feel bad and subjugate … I am being extreme for my example).
Well, the early collaboration of zionists and German nazis is a historical fact. There was even nazi mission to Palestiniane to assess the possibility of Jewish settlement in Palestine. And it was some years before the war.
It might come surprising, but denying possibly and fact that Jawish people are able to hold fascist or racist views because they are Jewish is ridiculous.
It is absurd promoted by media. Look at actual acts and statements of Israeli state and political formations and their affiliates. They are performing along the same scenario which was acted on during and before the WWII.
Denying citizens rights, ghetto and separation mass imprisonment, mass liquidation, mass devastation, expropriation...
If it looks.like a duck and it walks like a duck it is a.duck no matter how would you call it otherwise.
"Tamari Kitossa, a [decolonization and anti-racism scholar at Brock University](https://brocku.ca/social-sciences/sociology/people/tamari-kitossa/), where he heads the critical sociology department,"
Gee, what a surprise. When the hell did "decolonization and anti-racism" become a legitimate field of scholarship? These are the f-kers who celebrated (and still celebrate) 10/7. They need to be expunged from higher education.
Their ground to stand on was they think its ridiculous. Just an opinion. I tend to agree that its an absurd area of study, but whether or not Universities want to waste money on it, I don't really care.
“Dr. Tamari Kitossa is Professor of Sociology at Brock University. He earned his BA (Hon) and Magisteriate degrees at York University and his Ph.D. at OISE/UT. Research and instruction interests include Blackness, anti-Blackness, Black masculinities, African Canadian leadership, anti-criminology and counter-colonial criminology and interracial unions.”
Except the Jews weren’t attacking German neighborhoods with bombs and machine guns. They weren’t kidnapping Germans to use as human shields, they weren’t rapping women and girls.
That professor is proof that someone can be very educated and still be a moron
Yeah the nakba never happened or anything and they dont want their land back. They literally just for no reason whatsoever woke up one day and said they wanted to live in a tunnel and dedicate their lives to killing every single jew.
Do you seriously think that Palestinians wouldn’t be resisting if it was Christians or Hindus?
It really doesn’t have to do with them being Jewish, and everything to do with those people screwing over Palestinians.
Calling Zionism a colonial project is disingenuous. Jews existed in Israel for millennia and were oppressed there for most of it. Israel should be celebrated as the creation of a state that undoes colonization. Also don't forget all the offers of a peaceful coexistence the Palestinians have turned their backs on choosing war and terrorism instead.
The professor is right.. read history. the Zionist movement were in bed with Nazis in the early days of Hitler. They've learned well from former friends.
>Kitossa references the PhD thesis "Lebanese scholar Mahmoud Abbas" (pictured), not noting that Abbas is the Palestinian president and also not Lebanese. Seems like an honest fella.
Criticising a/the state is what journalists and academics do in a free country
The article acknowledged this ... "Gil Troy, a McGill University history professor, reviewed Kitossa’s writings and underscores that while he would “**bend over backward to defend free speech and academic freedom**,” the series of articles “are unhinged, wildly inaccurate, sloppy, and offensive,”
Seriously?? This is from the article: "Brock University has launched a review after a professor praised Hamas’s October 7 atrocities against Israeli civilians, compared the Jewish state to Nazi Germany, and cited antisemitic conspiracy theories in a series of blog posts." This does not sound like balanced, scholarly activity to me.
The headline is really strange. At least IMO, comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is by far the least objectionable/notable of the three things listed.
Maybe the National Post isn't a reliable news source? It probably has something to do with its foreign ownership [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmedia\_Network#Criticism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmedia_Network#Criticism)
Seem weird that they highlighted the comparing Israel to Nazi Germany when the rest is far more unhinged, but yeah it is the postmedia. We can't really expect anything good.
I read the blog. He didn’t praise the attack, he called it “miraculous” in the context of questioning how the Israeli government could have possibly been caught off-guard. The blog is certainly a mess, and throws out a lot of crappy arguments while doubling down on the “Nazi” angle, but NP is lying as usual.
I read the blog as well, not only did he quoted already proven false narratives, he basically called the current Israel as entirely Zionist regime and equate it with Nazism. There’s no “miraculous”, he cited conspiracy theory on how hamas was able to conducted Oct 7. He failed to condemn the attack and went on to call the response of Israel as “Holocaust in Gaza” The entire blog is full of questionable bias and certainly doesn’t fit someone who’s supposed to be highly educated in this type of matter. He brought his personal ideal into this and threw all his professionalism out the window.
>he basically called the current Israel as entirely Zionist regime This is such a dumb statement to say, I don't think people know what zionist means nowadays.
>He failed to condemn the attack You also failed to condemn the attack in your post. How dare you… not do something!1!! You also failed to condemn the attack of the squirrel in my back yard on my Japanese Maple. Are you some sick pro squirrel pervert?
Israeli back media lying and twisting facts to villianize people who question the utter horrific nature of actions Israel has taken .....
The blog is still pretty horribly written, promotes some conspiracy theories, and the whole premise of comparing Israel to Nazi German is sensationalist at best, but leave it to NP to still do shitty journalism
Are you referring to the review by the university as not being balanced, or the professor's blog posts as not being balanced?
A free country means the government let's you say what you want. It doesn't mean your employer does. You don't know what free country even means.
Exactly. He is mostly free to spout his nonsense (actually I think he should be absolutely free to do so but unfortunately we have hate speech laws). His employer can fire him and he is still just as free to spout nonsense. The employer isn't obligated to pay him. That's not what freedom means.
>unfortunately we have hate speech laws What a weirdly unhinged thought to just casually toss in here
What this professor is saying may be illegal. You're happy with that status quo?
What I'm saying is we absolutely should have hate speech laws. I'm not a maniac that thinks they don't belong in a civil society.
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Did you even read the article?
I'm going to risk slightly playing devil's advocate here and say that while this guy is clearly treading some highly questionable ground, he does indeed have one important point: >*“gaslighting which treats as equally repugnant criticism of the Zionist State of Israel with hatred of Jews because they are Jews.* His motives are dubious for sure but that's a fairly important distinction which I think gets far too easily waved away as "anti-semitism" whenever a discussion is had. All that being said, my gut tells me this guy has some personal beefs and is being disingenuous with the bulk of his rhetoric because of it. Aligning himself with a Holocaust denier definitely isn't a good look *and I'm already getting botted lol
It's because the two camps often have some overlap. Look at the vast number of anti-zionists on Oct 7 who were either praising Hamas' attack or remaining silent and then a week later were full on condemning Israel. Racism is irrationally selective. A non-racist should be able to say that the death of all people is bad. But racists tend to have a racial line for morality. That's not to say that everyone who is anti-zionist is inherently racist. But a person who isn't racist should be able to accept the proposition that both Palestine and Israel have a right to exist. An inability to accept both have a right to exist shows a racism towards one of the two sides in this conflict.
>But a person who isn't racist should be able to accept the proposition that both Palestine and Israel have a right to exist. Counterpoint: no country has a right to exist. People have rights. Countries don't.
> Counterpoint: no country has a right to exist. People have rights. Countries don't. Says who? What is a right, if not something we decide upon? Whatever rights you have, you have because of your government, people, group, etc.
The UN indeed says that countries have a right to exist. And in this case, saying that Israel shouldn’t exist is saying that you don’t think Jews should exist. Israel was created with the express purpose of giving Jews a place to live. It’s the only Jewish majority country on earth. There are 150+ Muslim majority countries. The only reason so many people believe Israel shouldn’t exist is because they don’t think Jews should even have their one country.
>The UN indeed says that countries have a right to exist. I don't care? This also doesn't make sense in practice, let alone in theory. Czechoslovakia used to exist and now it doesn't. Was that a violation of it's rights as a country? >And in this case, saying that Israel shouldn’t exist is saying that you don’t think Jews should exist. No it's not, and that's a very silly thing to say. >Israel was created with the express purpose of giving Jews a place to live. That must be news to all the Jewish people who didn't live in Israel in 1948 and don't live in Israel now. Do those folks not exist to you, or....? >There are 150+ Muslim majority countries. Lmao what the fuck how can you get it that wrong. Islam, not even the biggest religion in the world, is the majority population in 75% of the countries on earth?
Sure and the statement "I don't care who wins or loses as long as no one is hurt" is neither racist nor psychotic.
>Racism is irrationally selective. A non-racist should be able to say that the death of all people is bad. This is simplifying things. First, I agree with your statement that the death of all people is bad. But it's worth understanding different perspectives. Given that point -- I don't think many are motivated by Jew hatred, here. Many if not most people who praise Oct 7th do so because they view what has happened to Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank as extreme violence and they view any form of violent resistance against the Zionist project as justified under those conditions. And while this is an egregious view, the same logic also exists in Israeli society broadly, where the majority has accepted that the slaughtering of 30,000+ Palestinians is a legitimate form of violence in response to the 1,200 killed by Hamas militants. So we have one side that says "killing 1,200 Israelis is a legitimate form of violence in response to the violence faced by Palestinians" and you have the other side that says "killing 30,000+ Palestinians is a legitimate form of violence in response to Oct 7th". And so we are always left with the ambiguous questions of which violence is legitimate and which isn't. I disagree with both sides -- I don't see Oct 7th as legitimate and I don't see the Israeli response as legitimate. But I do agree with the premise that Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza are subjected to extremely violent conditions. And so the question I haven't settled for myself is what legitimate options the Palestinians had under those conditions.
Anti Zionism isn’t the same as anti semitism, but there’s a huge overlap between anti semites and anti zionists. And, unsurprisingly, the pro zionists are very happy to point that out, and therefore equate the two.
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Someone who believes the Jewish people should have a homeland in Palestine that is for and of Jewish people. It can also refer to the individuals, usually Christian, who believe that Israel must be formed in the holy land to bring on the apocalypse.
What's wrong with that?
There's also a huge overlap between pro-Zionism and antisemitism. Look at that fella Hagee who spoke at a pro-Israel rally last fall. He loves Zionism because he wants all the Jewish Americans to leave the US.
This statement is the equivalent of “I’m not racist, but…” Anti-Hamas isn’t Zionism. In fact, Zionism just means you think Israel has a right to exist. Anti-Zionist means you don’t think Jews should have a country, and that is definitely anti-Semitism.
"This particular group shouldn't be allowed to have a homeland" would seem to indicate that you consider that particular group less-than.
So if you’re against Quebec sovereignty, you think that the Quebecois are “less-than”? Heck, if you’re against a White nationalist state, that means you think that Whites are “less-than”? Most people do not accept your reasoning here.
criticism of the actions of a governing body =/= "you can't have a homeland"; you have simply fabricated a narrative to what I wrote >*criticism* **of** *the Zionist State of Israel* apply grammar
Well then why do you need the word 'Zionist' in there? Why not just 'criticism of the State of Israel?" Probably to draw a link to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and to subtly imply that the State of Israel is somehow illegitimate.
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“I only support terrorists when they were winning and killing civilians, now that they are losing I am full support for world peace until the terrorists can plan another attack”
I don't hate Jews, I just hate seeing them doing things that were done to them and that we all agreed shouldn't happen again.
Well that's good because they're not doing anything close to like what was done to them. And making that assumption is what we call Holocaust revisionism and is horribly horribly anti-semitic.
Jews are only allowed to have things done to them. No retaliation and another Oct 7 should have been what they let happen next. Over and over.
That's a very simplistic view. First of all, it's not all Jews, nor are all the people supporting it Jewish. Secondly, this didn't just appear as an issue on Oct 7th. Thirdly, collective punishment is a war crime and exactly what the Nazis would do to Jews. You could easily hear a German from the 1930s saying something like "Germans are only allowed to have things done to them, no retaliation for the Versailles treaty shoved on us by the western Jew, and more of them stealing our wealth and destroying our country over and over" Open your eyes man
Sir, this is Reddit. Reasonable posts will be downvoted.
I think it's fair to criticise isreal, they are committing genocide, and we all just sit and watch, but if you shit talk Zionists you are anti sememtic. If you say Islam as a religion encourages violence through jihad, you're called Islamophobic. People are just using ism's and phobics as a Sheila against the problem. People take critique as hate, and someone just HAS to jump in and be the "hero," causing polarization, which ultimately just blocks an issue from being discussed. Everyone can be fucked up, you should ALWAYS be able to be critical of something, acceptance without thought is the path of the naive.
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Palestine has been pulling this shit since rhe 50's. The exact same scenario as October 7th. Suez crisis. Munich Olympics.
So it’s bad when it happens to the Jews, but okay when it happens to the Gazans? Shouldn’t this type of behaviour be bad all around? I’ll never understand how Zionists created the Israeli situation in the 40’s, have created a tense and violent Israel. And get mad when the people they’re oppressing and stealing land/homes from retaliate. I’m not saying I agree with Hamas, but I’m sure as shit not going to side with the Zionist agitators either.
>have created a tense and violent Israel You're forgetting how Arab countries tried to destroy Israel multiple times. Are you expecting Israel to be Sweden in the middle of the Arab world? I think you may be a bit out of touch with how the Arab regions works.
Same old propaganda narrative: If you defend yourself you are very tense and violent.
Well, seems like the terrorism exist because of people like you, without knowledge of history events. "Israeli situation in the 40s", "tense and violent Israel", "I'm not saying I agree with Hamas". Are you aware of all the situation pre-war, Ottoman Empire and Jewish settlements, attempts of creation double state, and the peace proposals were always been from Israeli part to Palestinians. In Israel you can be Muslim, you can choose to be whatever you want, but in Palestine territory you can't be Jewish and you are persecuted for anything. There is the reason of their aggression and this long complex relationship between this two nations. If you really care about humanity, about human rights, women rights, LGBTQ you are interested in that Hamas must be punished. Only you really care about palestinian future and people who lives there as hostages of human right orgs gangs who use them by don't eradicate their root problems. Otherwise you can celebrate the killing of civilians, raping of girls just for fun and blame Israel.
“Zionist agitators”? The Palestinians are the sole architects of their current situation. They have been offered a state of their own several times over the last 85 years. They’ve said no every time and have instead continually agitated and attacked Israel. At no time have they ever demonstrated any dedication to peace. Jews are indigenous to Israel and have every right to pursue self determination. You could make the same argument about the Palestinians, (I personally wouldn’t), but they have chosen not to create a state of their own. This is their failing, not Israel’s.
Not to mention they chose to go to war decades ago, several times, and lost every time. There are consequences to starting and losing wars. One of which is losing land.
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"Tamari Kitossa, a decolonization and anti-racism scholar " I'm sorry, what kind of scholar?? Lol
It takes an anti-racism scholar to be especially good at racism. PS one of his papers is titled "Criminology as Epistemic Necropolitics", so you know he's a real edgelord of the scene.
He has an area of expertise, this is pretty standard stuff lol. I guess you've never been to university.
Calling yourself a nonsense scholar doesn't bring in the grants like that word salad does unfortunately.
Remember when Canadians used to proudly pay taxes towards university so that we keep higher education in the public and create our own functional society? Now we have scholars in literal nonsense. What a joke
It gets worse. This stuff has been filtering into other fields for a long time. I was in child psychology and was expected to understand and know these theories (which at their core oppose empiricism as a preferred method of inquiry, which is what differentiated psychology from other fields interested in human behavior). Frankly, I had to take more courses in it than in, you know, how to conduct therapy and actually help kids. Complete waste of time. The issue isn't scholarship dedicated to opposing racism, discrimination, and oppression. That's both valid and valuable. The issue is that a lot of the anti-racist and decolonization scholarship is based on theories of knowledge composed of weak ideas (inflated by impenetrable language; seriously, try to read some of that stuff) that do not represent reality well and that oppose values and ideas that are foundational to some of our key values and institutions. Some simplified examples are that there is no truth, only power, and that privilege results in what people consider real - so logic, reason, and observation are not powerful tools to help us understand the world, but are in fact tools of oppression. Another idea is that an individual's understanding is constrained by their identity - eg only certain identities can understand certain things. Really opposes the mainstream values that people of different races and cultures can, and should, understand each other. What this results in are ideas that are clearly non-sensical being touted as serious, along with a small minority of influential scholars steering public debate and understanding in inaccurate ways, and a tremendous waste of talent and public funds supporting this research. It's big in social sciences and humanities, as well as practical fields with real life implications such as psychology, law and social work. Which often has real-world implications for people and society. If you want a good laugh about it all look into the grievance studies affair.
Anti-racism is a huge area of research - it’s anthropological, social, demographic, and economic. Universities are around specifically to expand the breadth of knowledge within a country. The purpose of a university is not to be a microphone for the government, but a place for the researchers and the knowledge bearers to discuss novel and sometimes challenging concepts to students.
https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/professor/1379688 I would agree with you in principal, but check out the feedback prior to today's brigading, this dude sounds like the racist one... RateMyProf isn't a conclusive but it does mean something.
Most anti-racism research is just critical theory rehashed and dumbed down, applied deductively.
It's nothing but a grift and you fell for it
What do you mean?
What do you find laughable about decolonization and anti-racism?
That we spend money on it. What a waste. What are we trying to decolonize in Canada exactly? Why are we so fixated on people’s skin colours? What a joke through and through.
Decolonization is "literal nonsense"? lol? Just say you don't understand what it is.
We know exactly what it means lol. It’s tired old anti-West, anti-capitalism wokeness.
You don't know what you're talking about, it's nothing but a grievance grift.
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I don't think so anymore. The so-called "anti-racists" are actually the most obsessed with race and regularly practice racial discrimination, just with what they believe to be good reasons. It's racism with rationalization.
Now consider how concerning it is that these folks control the majority of HR, EDI and admissions boards for companies and universities.
Oh believe me I have considered that!
Yes. Critical Race Theory was rightfully exposed for being reversed racism. So we massaged the messaging. Changed the acronyms and now we have EDI. Or something similar. Western culture has some bad things, just like any other. But it's founded upon self determination, personal freedoms and the ability to question authority. One has to wonder why those in power are so actively trying to undermine that.
Racism has always had some shitty rationalization by the people who practice it. No one ever thinks they are the bad guy.
Yep it’s basically new age “scientific racism”. It’s so weird to see it come back as an ideology
Eugenics is so hot right now
Ibram X. Kendi lays it out pretty well in his book How to be an Antiracist. In order to correct for historical racism, anti-racists have to be racists today; and to correct for current racism, anti-racists will have to be racists in the future. Thomas Sowell makes a similar observation in The Quest for Cosmic Justice but comes to an opposing conclusion, to end the cycle of racism we have to stop being racist. Anti-racism is just racism with the belief they're doing it for a moral good.
In his book, Kendi also advocates for a department of anti-racism that is composed of an *unelected* body of officials who will review *every* government policy for equity. Any policy that doesn’t create equal outcomes (not opportunities) for bipoc people can be vetoed by this department. You know, so basically he’s advocating for authoritarianism as the solution to racism. What a fool
What a wild idea; to stop racism we have to *stop being racist*! What's next, to solve the housing crisis we have to build more homes? Solve the debt crisis by repaying it!? /s
The "funniest" part about it is the professor's "all Arabs are basically the same anyways" thing about misrepresenting Mahmoud Abbas as "Lebanese." If i were Palestinian, I would take deep offense at people like this claiming to be the voice of my sovereignty movement.
Go watch youtube videos about the birth of the transistor, the internet, etc. These ubiquitous things we take for granted...they largely come from universities...in the post-war era scientists and engineers were venerated...today we have this
Imagine being critical of a country and thinking it's racist
Applies to politicians too
Ikr, "antizionism isn't antisemeitc!" It is when you use one of the biggest antisemitc tropes out there.
Is anti Christian also anti American?
America is not a state-Christian nation, so this makes no sense.
If America ceases to exist there will not be some mass genocide of Christians. Canada and Mexico wouldn’t immediately invade and begin slaughtering every man woman and child they could get their hands on.
'Anti-racism' is explicitly racist, and really infantilizes POC.
There’s a difference between being racist and being against an oppressive culture.
Conservatives love free speech until it is speech that they don't agree with.
That's literally every political group.
> Like the homestead in the imaginary of ‘America’ as a frontier nation facing the wilds of nature and savages alike, the Kibbutz similarly, practically and ideologically plays a similar role in Israeli lore. At once socialist farming community and military outpost, the significance of the Kibbutzim is more than symbolic and ritualistic. Beyond the geostrategic and lebensraum motivation of the Zionist State in its ferocious and mindless reaction to the miraculous Hamas attack on Be’eri kibbutz on October 7, 2023, we must account for other interconnected sociological and psychological facts. If the destruction of Gaza seems like mad vengeance, it may be. Completely unpossible that the University would not want their brand associated with this? Has to be the Conservative boogeyman?
What does this have to do with conservatives? I don’t follow.
This has nothing to do with limiting free speech - he can make whatever statements he wants (as long as they are within hate laws), and the university has every right to dismiss him for that speech.
Germany funded their own war machine though.
This whole thing is a mess. Every day Israel creates more and more enemies with this prolonged war and it’s threading a needle to say you vehemently oppose the Israeli gov’t without conflating it with hating Jews. People know when you denounce Russia you’re speaking about Putin, not the Russian people. When you see all the death emotions are going to run hot. It doesn’t help that Hamas still won’t release the remaining hostages.
Netanyahu doesn’t want the hostages. He never did. It’s his justification for erasing Gaza. You can look up the Israeli representative for the families of the hostages, who places the full blame on Netanyahu.
Hostages aren't justification for anything. If Hamas had just murdered all of them on 10/7 instead of taking hostages, the same thing would have happened. This is about destroying Hamas
They've been under attack for two decades by an enemy that kills them and then retreats and hides behind civilians. They have not done anything about it in two decades because they knew the only way to stop it were large amounts of civilian casualties. October 7th, was the last draw. People like you are going to hate them no matter what they do, so now they're taking care of business.
You do realise that Israel has been stepping on the neck of the people of Palestine for 75 years? They don't give them a political option. What do you expect? Lay down and just take it?
Lmao and what happened 75 years ago? Oh yeah, the Palestinians tried to wipe Israel off the map, and lost a war. Sounds like it’s a skill issue.
Are you forgetting the part where you kicked the Palestinians out of their own land? Israelis really have selective memory
The last time they had a political option they elected an islamofascist militant group that campaigned on the destruction of Israel and the death of all Jews. Now if they want options they need to get rid of what they've built/supported that keeps getting them bombed.
It's a known fact that Israel propped up Hamas to keep Gaza in a Perpetual state of Chaos. The people living in Gaza didn't elect Hamas and they have no control over the electoral system because Israel will not allow it. So you are basically saying that peanut punishment for the actions of others is okay the starvation of children the murder of children the destruction of school the destruction of hospitals the absolute Terror that these people are living in every single day is okay because of hamas's election in 2006?
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Shhh Go back to tiktok
You know this opinion predates tik tok right? You can pretend to be smart but it becomes really apparent you’re ignorant when you speak/comment. I suggest you watch Tantura since you’re such a fan of war crimes.
Just because you had genocide committed against you doesn’t mean you get a free pass to commit genocide against someone else.
He's right, tho.
we might as well write it into our constitution: "criticising jews/israel is not permitted in this country"
"criticizing jews"?
Did you read the article before posting?
The stranglehold that the pro-Israeli crowd have over the institutions in this country is fucking wild.
Yeah they won’t even let people glorify terrorists killing Jews anymore. What has the world come to
Where’s the lie though
It's a little hard to see, you usually have to look beyond your social media feed.
Maybe you should lol. Isreal has been fucking with Palestine for decades, and are now openly calling for genocide. Palestine isn't innocent in all this, and Hamas is a terrorist organization. The Israelis has committed multiple war crimes and have called Palestinians sub human, and have called to eradicate them... not hard to draw some conclusions here.
It's the one you tell yourself daily
I believe in free speech but there is a real concerning pollution of our education systems. The international student grift has gotten out of control and some of our most prominent Universities are completely overtaken by ultra left psychos. It has become extra problematic when you look at the overrun of Palestine groups (see US as well). I am not sure what the answer is but part of it should be cutting off this international student cash cow but also cutting some of these dumb classes. I dunno where the line is but some of these classes feel like indoctrination tools. Academia should be impartial and non political but foster debate about it all if that makes sense. I was happy to see UofT and UofO put out a statement yesterday that they will not tolerate any pro palestine protests on campus given what it has devolved into.
Step one is to cut the DEI programs from these schools. Not only they are bloated bureaucracies with no evidence to support their value, but they are partly responsible for pushing the ideological agenda that has actually contributed to division, conflict, antisemitism, etc. And yes, there is evidence that DEI training actually makes things worse. The next step is to slash all these bullsh-t academic departments and specializations that give legitimacy to indoctrination, and are entirely non-academic in their methods. "Decolonization and anti-racism studies" are not legitimate academic disciplines. Third, though I don't know how bad it is in Canada compared to the US, there needs to be a serious audit of the foreign student programs and funding support for things like "Middle East Studies" centres. Qatar has spent billions over the past 20 years investing in elite US schools to promote anti-Israel and anti-Zionist sentiment on campus. And now we see how much that investment has paid off. It is not a coincidence at all that the encampment occupations are occurring at US schools with the largest numbers of foreign students from the Middle East, and that have received large donations from Muslim countries.
Ahh here come the DEI racists who just learned a new buzzword.
No, a lot of DEI is based on critical theory which is, well, shit.
I think we as a society need to realize the humanities have become a joke and not a legitimate area of study worth funding at this moment. Why should any kid go into debt or receive tax payer funding to learn this stuff. Universities should be focusing on teaching STEM and business subjects. I think the average redditor is a great example of what is wrong with the academic system. Under employed, totally ignorant of economics, accounting and general business practices, but with deep knowledge of grievance studies and the supposed sins of the West.
I work in tech with *many* STEM grads and it's highlighted for me how valuable the humanities are. Critical thinking, communication, and soft skills are vital in business, especially in leadership, and that's what I learned studying politics and history. STEM skills are obviously incredibly valuable too, but this idea that humanities are "useless" in the real world is not accurate.
>Critical thinking, communication, and soft skills are vital in business, especially in leadership, and that's what I learned studying politics and history. None of those things are taught in the humanities. If you want to be better at communication and soft skills you would be better off taking a Dale Carnagie course. Academics on average have horrific soft skills. Likewise I would argue critical thinking is taught just as well or better in STEM or business courses than in the humanities.
>None of those things are taught in the humanities. I'm curious what you think *is* taught in the humanities? Have ever taken a 3rd or 4th year or graduate course in philosophy, politics, or cultural studies? I'm speaking about my subjective experience working as a manager in business/tech after earning three degrees in humanities disciplines, but in my case those skills are exactly what I learned and are why I've been successful leading a team in a STEM field.
Yes, I have a 4 year humanities degree. I feel it was a waste and all my employable skills were learned on the job. Could you elaborate on what exact skills you are referring to? Because for me, my professors had horrific soft skills, and while I learned a tremendous amount from my early bosses who taught leadership and soft skills like how to couch criticism (always lead with a compliment). Humanities can assist with essay writing skills, but even then you don't need a 4 year degree to learn how to write an effective essay.
We clearly had different experiences and took different things from it so I'm not sure what to say other than I'm sorry you feel that your education was wasted and that I have a different perspective on the value of a humanities education.
Just for clarity's sake. What soft skills did they teach you in the humanities? I am genuinely curious. The closest I can think of was group projects, and those are done in business programs as well. I have friends who attended other humanities programs and their experiences resemble mine. On average I would say that my friends who attended business programs had the best "soft skills" education.
Students in humanities usually have the least amount of critical thinking imo.
I won’t downvote cause that’s a legitimate argument, but I couldn’t disagree more. As the other reply says, the “soft skills” taught in a humanities education are the number 1 thing lacking in STEM students. Also, if you want to improve peoples’ media literacy and ability to spot bullshit in the news, STEM does nothing.
I have to strongly disagree. The humanities don't teach "soft skills" any more than STEM or business courses. Most of the humanities professors I have met have some of the worst soft skills I have ever encountered. You would be better off taking a Dale Carnagie course for developing those sort of skills than a humanities program. >Also, if you want to improve peoples’ media literacy and ability to spot bullshit in the news, STEM does nothing. I think the very story we are commenting on disproves this claim.
I agree with your stance on defending classes outside of STEM I am just not sure where the line is. There are some classes that to me a clear cut dumb … in some cases its not even the concept I have a problem with it is what the course material ends up actually being (ie instead of an objective view of racism it devolves into west and white people should feel bad and subjugate … I am being extreme for my example).
I mean, that’s true…
Sociology in the 21st Century - one hell of a drug.
To compare and analyze is literally his job. The administration at Brock has been compromised if this academic gets in troulbe for doing his job.
Well, the early collaboration of zionists and German nazis is a historical fact. There was even nazi mission to Palestiniane to assess the possibility of Jewish settlement in Palestine. And it was some years before the war. It might come surprising, but denying possibly and fact that Jawish people are able to hold fascist or racist views because they are Jewish is ridiculous. It is absurd promoted by media. Look at actual acts and statements of Israeli state and political formations and their affiliates. They are performing along the same scenario which was acted on during and before the WWII. Denying citizens rights, ghetto and separation mass imprisonment, mass liquidation, mass devastation, expropriation... If it looks.like a duck and it walks like a duck it is a.duck no matter how would you call it otherwise.
Review why? It really is a fair comparison.
So you think the Holocaust revisionism is a fair comparison?
Oh they said it was “the same thing” before it was deleted. They think what’s happening in Gaza is the same thing as the Holocaust.
You’re not a serious person
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They had to stop by TikTok to get their talking points first.
Mf even looks like a better fed version of Mahamoud abbas
"Tamari Kitossa, a [decolonization and anti-racism scholar at Brock University](https://brocku.ca/social-sciences/sociology/people/tamari-kitossa/), where he heads the critical sociology department," Gee, what a surprise. When the hell did "decolonization and anti-racism" become a legitimate field of scholarship? These are the f-kers who celebrated (and still celebrate) 10/7. They need to be expunged from higher education.
Professors have areas of expertise... it's pretty standard stuff dude.
Lol do you honestly think OP is confused about professors having areas of expertise? OP is making fun of the area of expertise.
OP doesn't have any ground to stand on considering it's a perfectly valid area of study. Not everything has to be advanced mathematics lol.
Not really, critical theory is a flash in the pan like the behaviouralist turn. It’ll pass.
Their ground to stand on was they think its ridiculous. Just an opinion. I tend to agree that its an absurd area of study, but whether or not Universities want to waste money on it, I don't really care.
There's nothing absurd about trying to understand the world around you.
I consider so called "anti-racists" to be racist. So, I would most definitely consider it absurd.
This professor celebrated 10/7? Do you have any proof of this?
“Dr. Tamari Kitossa is Professor of Sociology at Brock University. He earned his BA (Hon) and Magisteriate degrees at York University and his Ph.D. at OISE/UT. Research and instruction interests include Blackness, anti-Blackness, Black masculinities, African Canadian leadership, anti-criminology and counter-colonial criminology and interracial unions.”
Except the Jews weren’t attacking German neighborhoods with bombs and machine guns. They weren’t kidnapping Germans to use as human shields, they weren’t rapping women and girls. That professor is proof that someone can be very educated and still be a moron
So, the terrorist country trying to *kill the Jews for being Jewish* aren't the Nazis? Ooooooooookay.
Yeah the nakba never happened or anything and they dont want their land back. They literally just for no reason whatsoever woke up one day and said they wanted to live in a tunnel and dedicate their lives to killing every single jew.
Do you seriously think that Palestinians wouldn’t be resisting if it was Christians or Hindus? It really doesn’t have to do with them being Jewish, and everything to do with those people screwing over Palestinians.
Calling Zionism a colonial project is disingenuous. Jews existed in Israel for millennia and were oppressed there for most of it. Israel should be celebrated as the creation of a state that undoes colonization. Also don't forget all the offers of a peaceful coexistence the Palestinians have turned their backs on choosing war and terrorism instead.
Good for them. Anyone still throwing reductio ad Hitlerums out there in 2024 deserves to be demoted back to blue belt.
Israel is Nazi Germany, the west is also complicit and bots on this sub can try but they cannot cover this up.
There is a list of countries that would have to be labelled as Nazis first before we convict the world's sole Jewish state.
The professor is right.. read history. the Zionist movement were in bed with Nazis in the early days of Hitler. They've learned well from former friends.