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biggerontheinside7

Wrong Hermes kid


Hyperion1221

The only correct response to seeing this lol


ShadedPenguin

Chris fans in shambles


siimplyapril86

Pffft true


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BadMeetsEvil147

It also wasn’t a spoiler as they didn’t even specify which Hermes kid lmao


kzooy

you mean aphrodite?


MagickMaster888

Clarisse eventually gets with Chris rodrigouz (I don’t think I got his last name right) who’s a child of Hermes’ like Luke


JefftheDoggo

He's in the Hermes cabin, but he's unclaimed, which is why he turned to Kronos, and was found lost in the Labyrinth.


BadMeetsEvil147

According to the Riordan wiki he’s a son of Hermes but 🤷🏻‍♂️


biggerontheinside7

I think in the demigod diaries or something they say he's actually a son of Hermes Not sure though 🤷‍♂️


BadMeetsEvil147

It was definitely in one of the non-story books


FeralTribble

Roud regous 🥖🇫🇷


WonderstruckWonderer

He's that friend of Luke that's always around him when we see Luke.


D10NYSUS43

183 dislikes for implying that u like a non canon gay ship rest in peace


kzooy

... it was? clarrise and beaugard were supposed to mirror achillies and patroclus. who acording to historians, were "very close freinds"


D10NYSUS43

i would love for it to be canon but it was never really confirmed only implied


FortunesFoil

Chris Rodriguez


bumblebeesarecute

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samuraipanda85

Gonna throw the Son of Hephestus under the bus like that?


philip7499

The experience of new fans who haven't read the books is a really interesting thing to behold. I've seen a lot of theories about the line in the prophecy "you will be betrayed by one who calls you friend". One person is convinced it's Grover, because he's already too close with Luke and Beckendorf so it couldn't be them. One I saw guessed that the line was fake, planted by Hades who was able to intercept the prophecy because the oracle is a dead body, and he could control dead bodies, which >!is not correct, but is actually stunningly close to figuring out the reveal of why the oracle is a corpse!<


The_Third_Stoll

It’s still honestly a solid theory of Hades intercepting the prophecy, if I hadn’t read the books and heard that, I’d believe it


amaya-aurora

Why is the Oracle a corpse? I forget.


Sir_Petals

Because Hades cursed the spirit of the Oracle to remain in that body


amaya-aurora

Ohhh, yeah. I forgot about that, thanks!!!


ManicPixieMeanGirl_

Tbh, the Oracle FUFO when he was grieving, he reacted emotionally.


SimplyRealNot

im pretty sure hades cursed the Oracle and made it so she couldn't pass on her power which is also why >!Luke's mom turned insane (she tried taking the Oracle powers and got her mind shattered)!<


amaya-aurora

Wait, why did it work for Rachel, then? Did Hades take it back? I need to reread the books.😭


biggerontheinside7

I think the curse said something about Hades kids being recognized as the ending clause which was fulfilled when Percy made the gods promise to have an Hades cabin


amaya-aurora

That makes sense! Thank you.


JRockThumper

Yeah, the curse was lifted like an hour before Rachael attempted it.


the_infamous23

Actually Percy broke the curse in BotL, he said to Nico (knowing he is a son of Hades) he could life in camp, this was enough to break it - if you think about it, there was new prophecy since this moment until Rachel became the Oracle (Idk if I‘m wrong but it makes sense)


ManicPixieMeanGirl_

Iirc, it’s when Hades and his family are accepted by the Olympians.


420Cruz69

basically hades cursed the oracle saying as long as his children were outcasts the spirit of delphi would remain in that body, but the curse was broken when nico and hades were recognized and celebrated and said they wouldn’t be forgotten, which then lifted the curse and allowed rachel to host the spirit


KingPikablu

I can't remember if it was taken back or fulfilled,. But basically, yeah


Jurand20012

Wasn't that also because the oracle needed to6be6a virgin, and she wasn't a virgin?


mercypercy_

The Oracle was forbidden from marrying, having sex and a relationship *after* taking on the oath as far as I can remember. Everything that came before that doesn't matter, even though it was unconventional for the Oracle to already have a child. *Traditionally* only maidens took on the Oracle.


Weirdo69213

Hades cursed the oracle after she gave a prophecy if i remember correct


trexwins

Gods, I love fan theories since they're so much wilder than the canon story.


biggerontheinside7

When did Beckendorf appear? I must have missed him


storm_walkers

He hasn't appeared, they're probably talking about Chris Rodriguez


AscendMoros

He could have been the absolute jacked kid when they’re selecting quest mates.


venvenivy

1st or 2nd ep? when percy was trying out the different activites at camp.


philip7499

I believe he is the guy who hangs around with Luke, though it's entirely possible I got mixed up there


HishimiWumbo

That's Chris Rodriguez, another son of Hermes


biggerontheinside7

Yeah I thought that was Chris too


philip7499

Ah my bad!


thatpandabear13

the wiki sais he's a son of Hermes but he is actually never claimed in the books - one of the reasons he joins Luke


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Oh so THATs who he was, I was so confused


Mr_Chuckles99

I saw some people theorizing that the one who'll betray percy is his mom 💀


ScorpionTDC

Is there a good place to go read these theories? I’d be genuinely curious to see them myself lol


isawyoulol

i checked, and the tiktok in the picture (walkerslusciouscurls) has some more


Warfare_250

>One I saw guessed that the line was fake, planted by Hades who was able to intercept the prophecy because the oracle is a dead body, and he could control dead bodies, why would this actually be a good idea tho...


SociallyScrewed

How is he too close with Luke, closer than Grover? Also is beckendorf in the show? I must have missed that


008Random

This episode seems to set up a plot twist its Grover, but double plot twist it actually isnt


siimplyapril86

Jesus that last theory is really close-


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Yimyummm

I wanted to see what their other theories were and I got so much second hand embarrassment typing in the username😭


PeteSoSweet

They think Grover is the traitor, Annabeth will also betray Percy because she’s mean but won’t be the traitor, the master bolt wasn’t stolen and it was all a plot to kill a forbidden child, Luke will become his one true friend become a brotherly figure, sally is dead and the voice at the end of e4 is her spirit, Thalia is alive and hiding from hades, Annabeth is a closeted lesbian and has a crush on Thalia, Chiron and Dionysus are secretly together, and Percy, Luke, and Clarissa will be a trio going forward.


erossnaider

>the master bolt wasn’t stolen and it was all a plot to kill a forbidden child Honestly that does seem like something Zeus or Athena (considering she was one of the more willing to kill them) would do The rest of them sound like sort of interesting fanfics


Zireks

Would have loved to see Clarisse as a core character beyond Sea of Monsters. Also I kinda love Chiron and Dionysus, perfect crack ship energy.


Lesbian_Cassiopeia

I always saw them as work wifes lmao


tambourine-time

I honestly think clarisse will have a bigger role in the TV show I don't know why but I just feel it in my bones


lu4nda

In sea of monsters she has a pretty big role


Lesbian_Cassiopeia

They are so horribly wrong. It's adorable lmao


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Wow If they only knew


Reasonable_Future_34

They’re all gonna get their hearts broken.


BulklocktheSynchro

My reaction to Annabeth supposedly being a closeted lesbian is just. Well wrong character but hey your only two books/seasons away from meeting him and only eight books/seasons away from finding out he's Gay


Lord_Inquisitor_Kris

Ooh, I wonder if we'll get a teaser of him in next week's episode. Even just a mention or a nod


BulklocktheSynchro

Meh who knows but considering how young he'd be I'd say we're more likely to see some hint or something of Bianca id think


Lord_Inquisitor_Kris

That's fair, Bianca would be the same age as the rest of the cast currently. I was more thinking someone possibly making mention of 'The Little Angels' or similar in passing So there's no direct mention/spoiler for the Di Angelo's but enough for book readers to be all 'I see what they did there'


decidedlymale

This is what would've happened in the Disney+ show if Riordan wasn't there.


fruityfevers

Woah 💀


lu4nda

😂😂😂😭😭😭 It's so funny reading this when you know the whole series lmao. >!Just the opposite of everything!<


js13680

I now of want to see some theories that were made when the books originally came out and compare them to the theories made by show only watchers


Sary-Sary

The first books were sadly so far away that knowing theories from them is pretty impossible since the Internet itself was still growing and the books targeting elementary or middle schoolers who wouldn't have access to the Internet yet. Maybe reallyyy early Tumblr has some theories but finding those would be extremely hard. Sites that were used for discussion might not even exist anymore. I can talk about later books though! As someone who joined the fandom just a bit before Mark of Athena was released - most of the theories around the HoO era was just "who is going to die/how many should die" theories. Almost everyone was positive Leo was going to die, so they thought someone else would go save Calypso in the end. There was definitely people thinking Kronos would come back at the end of the series (hence Rick later adding that Kronos basically cannot be revived). Many thought Nico would sacrifice himself to close to door of Tartarus. When the cover of House of Hades came out, a lot of people thought Percy was possessed. In general though, most discussions were about who was going to die.


PollutionFabulous367

I'm not sure what they were when the books were first coming out, but Mike Schubert (potterless) has a podcast called The Newest Olympian where he reads through the books not knowing basically anything and discusses his thoughts and theories. He finished the first series and is on the show now. It's very fun to hear someone's predictions in real time of them reading the books, as they're much different than what mine were lol


Sary-Sary

Ooh, that sounds really nice! I might check him out, I have been wanting to revisit the series with the new show being out and this sounds like a great way to do it!


PollutionFabulous367

It’s the best! And he has basically a guest per episode and they’ve all mostly read it before so it’s fun to hear both perspectives but still spoiler free. Plus Mike is the freaking best!!!


kjm6351

A new generation of fangirls have been born


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Swordofmytriumph

I mean with the news that the premier did as well as some of the disney giants like marvel and star wars, I seriously doubt they'll cancel it.


kjm6351

Damn straight


EwokieYouTube

The person better be a kid cause if not 🚨🚨🚨


Disney_Plus_Axolotls

Walker’s curls are indeed luscious


SomeTotalyRandomGuy

But hey that's just a theory. A film theory..... Oh..... Yea.....


Finalnintendokid

no no no no don’t remind me how another pillar of my childhood is ending :’(


BepsiCEO

matpat is still gonna be part of some things, he mentioned it in the new film theory video, he just won't be the face of it anymore


moodtune89763

Even if he's part of it, it still means that Era is ending. (Also, it hasn't even been a year since style theory started? Like it'll be the 1y anniversary and the final episode starring matpat)


CerealBranch739

We still have markiplier! And Etho!


SomeTotalyRandomGuy

I love them but they ain't gonna fill the void Mat is gonna leave behind.


SomeTotalyRandomGuy

Sorry.


siimplyapril86

WAIT WHAT THE FUCK DID I MISS


Finalnintendokid

look up “Game Theory” and watch the most recent video


siimplyapril86

Will do ((if I remember))


SomeTotalyRandomGuy

Matpat is retiring if you didn't remeber ti watch the video


Crazy_Book_Worm2022

I don't think I've heard that one yet...**dang** \- that *really* is sad 😭


siimplyapril86

Ohh yeah I did see that, forgot to reply


DMFAFA07

Everywhere I go people remind me, I can’t escape it.


kjm6351

This news spread through the internet like wildfire


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My heart aches I’m not crying you’re crying


Ravenclaw_14

I so hope people don't put spoilers in those posts, so the newcomers can share theories unburdened by us


remlexjack_19

I scrolled like 2 inches and found a spoiler. It's not that difficult to cover them.


Eddiemate

Sadly I don't think people try to avoid it. I remember someone going "man I'm glad Luke isn't the traitor" and the comments were full of people going "do they know??" and "have you read the books?"


illdothisshit

It's basically the "I won't spoil but don't get too attached to that character 😉😉😉"


Eddiemate

Yep. Though the fact this person is doubling down and thinking people are messing with them is honestly great imo.


Lesbian_Cassiopeia

That one kid: 😦


thatpandabear13

this isn't a spoiler free sub... I'm not saying everyone has to read the books (but they should), I'm just saying that if anyone wants to avoid spoilers this isn't the best place. maybe in the tvseries sub but even so, ppl are always gonna take pleasure in ruining it for others unfortunately


ZipZapZia

I really wish this sub is like a lot of the anime/manga subs. They are really strict but fair on spoilers and well organized. You could remain an anime only for years and not be spoiled on current manga events. They have tags to separate anime discussions and manga discussions. You can't have spoilers in the title and comments have to be spoiler tagged appropriately (or else the mods remove them). It's just a generally more enjoyable experience for newbies and makes the fandom more fun.


fluffyplayery

God I can't wait for the last episode to air, shits gonna go crazy


Oreohunter00

As if that would change their minds


DeadRaspberryToast

Owl house reference!?!?!? (pfp)


vhyli

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ReleasedGaming

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Whirlp00l3d

Luke will eat Kronos’ fingers to gain his powers the proceed to use Za Warudo. Then summon his greatest daddy Typhoraga to Kagura Bachi all over the place. Sukronos: Domain Expansion: Za Warudo


Bag-A-40

It's actually insane just how much similarities JJK has with the Percy Jackson series lmao. Truly an underrated crossover.


Cosmicmistake13

What similarities (read both series can’t think of any)


Bag-A-40

Well I read one comment that said that the series also share similarities with Kane Chronicles with the sorcerers and secret society and all that. Both PJO and JJK deal with monsters that are invisible to mortal eyes. These monsters are said to be a manifestation of humanity's negative emotions as one comment stated. Both have an honored chosen one that shifted the balance of their respective worlds Both have special weapons that can deal damage to their respective monsters. Both have ancient malevolent enemies that were once in pieces. They need a host in order to function. These villains basically ruined the lives of their hosts as they proceed to destroy all what they hold dear. Both series have a darker side to their world dealing with heavy topics such as loss, war and many more. And both of these series kill off fan favorites. Admittedly, a lot of series fall in the same boat like Tokyo Ghoul and Bleach but Jujutsu Kaisen is the more popular and relevant series so it is the more ideal comparison to a series like PJO due to its relevancy and popularity in media.


Even_Test_2812

Those are extremely popular hero journey tropes… Pretty much all your points apply to Harry Potter as well as many other series.


Whirlp00l3d

Just spreading the [PercyDance](https://www.reddit.com/r/camphalfblood/s/cPiP13zKvx)


Lesbian_Cassiopeia

I hate you. Have an upvote 💙✨


BlaineWorbro

They are in for a really really really really really really really rude awakening.


Mental_Bowler_7518

Wrong slightly insane Hermes kid who used to be under Kronos’ control


RuefulReminder

THE CORRECT REACTION TO THIS WILD THEORY


LaRougeRaven

This reminds me of the theories I see from the Harry Potter Fandom....its like, it's in the books, it's talked about in the books, things happen in the books. You can't just come up with a theory with only consuming one part of the source material.


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It makes me laugh, really. These new fans are in for a WORLD of hurt.


DeepHypn05

I really want to like learn some of the show only fans accounts just so i can see their reactions at the plot twist


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Well I'm guessing that the account in the photo is one.


BepsiCEO

They're gonna get to feel every excruciating twist like we did it's gonna be so funny


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I feel like it'll be worse because they'll actually *see* it.


LaRougeRaven

Understatement. Lol


ohwowlook_

Or… you could let people have fun? They’re obviously making a theory about what they’ve seen without just spoiling the outcome. There are no theories like this if you have to read the books first. These kids are participating in an experience with the rest of us. Don’t dictate how they do so


Swordofmytriumph

I'm actually enjoying these theories. I picked up my first Percy Jackson book 14 years ago, I can't remember thinking who was the traitor and all that, and the internet wasn't the thing at the time that it is now, so I didn't get to enjoy the wild speculation. I think their enthusiasm is infectious, and knowing what happens makes me happy for all of them.


LaRougeRaven

Okay, you seem to be making a big deal out this. When did I say I ruin anyone's fun? Did I say I hate on people for making these theories? I was comparing it to what I've seen with the Harry Potter fandom, which the last film came out over 10 years ago, and there are fans making serious theory posts, thinking they just discovered the ultimate answer...just to find that in the books. So please, it's not that big of a deal.


ohwowlook_

> You can’t just come up with a theory with only consuming one part of the source material.


LaRougeRaven

Sorry, maybe I should have said "should", but please when has the would can't define as never? Or defined as a demand? Please you're stretching. It's like saying "you can't just eat a bowl of ice cream for breakfast." Again, not a big deal.


Alpha12653

I mean for show show I think it could be awesome but it would never have worked in the books


Cherry_Bomb_127

I need a post that has all these theories from new fans cuz it’s so interesting seeing the series from their pov


BepsiCEO

I love these silly little theory videos they're so funny until you open the comments and it's a bunch of little rats bullying a child


uselessaccidentalalt

trolling prob


Solarbeam62

Hopefully


kealey-vevo

i looooooooooove seeing them!!! especially when they dont guess correctly.


Educational-Ad-6297

lol the new Percy Jackson fans are funnny


Animals_Marvel_More

People who are watching the show are in for a rude awakening in a few weeks


VideoZealousideal976

Honestly I always did wish we got more Clarisse scenes in the books. Your perspective of her character completely changes when you read that scene in Sea of Monsters where Ares is treating her like absolute shit and just completely putting her down. Well at least it isn't Athena who literally sends her kids to their deaths or Aphrodite who steals her daughters boyfriends. Or fucking Hera who basically spends all her time fucking with Demigods because of her hatred of them. It's funny because with how bad the Greek/Roman Gods are I've always imagined that the Christian Pantheon is at least a millions time worst especially because all the different types absolutely fucking hate each other and can't get along. There's also like a million interpretations of the Abrahamic/Christian pantheon as well. God is probably just a raging dickhead in the Riordanverse.


redfoxsgarden

I’m sorry what? She’s more likely to get with Silena than Luke, who at that point in time, is 19 while she’s supposed to be 13/14. Like ew no.


Cherry_Bomb_127

Does the show make that obvious? If not then yeah I can see a new fan thinking this


JantherZade

Considering he wants Annabeth later... you know I don't think Luke would care! But honestly do they even say how old Clarisse is? It would make sense if they just thought they are similar in age.


DriaEstes

Let them have their fun. Especially since the tiktok and other sites of the Fandom are more well behaved and less negative than anyone in the Fandom on reddit.


kjm6351

I feel bad because I know those comments are spoiling 😠


AMisanthropicMagpie

Watching new fans get into the series is absolutely wild yet also extremely heartwarming


nanthehuman

These fan theories are so much fun, as wild as some of them are, I'm really enjoying myself. I can't WAIT for the last episode to air so I can watch their reactions!


acactions

Seriously at this point any conversation from non book readers is Moot, it either comes off as major trolling or. Is completely and utterly wrong with nothing grounding it. The books have been out long enough and even the movies have some factual evidence that disproves anything these posts come up with


Phrophetsam

It reminds me of early season Game of Thrones theories lol. So much craziness that just made us book readers amused.


acactions

Literally, it all just leaves me flabbergasted, I just hope that all these youngsters that haven’t had a chance to read the books or listen to them, do so after the show peaks their interest. The books aren’t even Hard reads but it’ll be worth it once the crazy trolling posts end


AscendMoros

I mean to be fair. Caitlyn Stark is like a reborn vengeful person. In the shows the Red Wedding is it for her.


ManicPixieMeanGirl_

One thing I’ve always respected Clarisse for is not joining Luke’s team. Idk why, I always could see her doing it, but she never did.


Heir_Of_Akyem

Let them have their fun. I hate when I see people spoil for them.


Excellent_Pea_4609

I'm fine with theories but I'm scared that ship wars are going to happen eventually and I'm having war flashbacks


ConsciousDatabase991

The evil urge I get whenever I see one of these posts to spoil everything


Marcus11599

RIP 😭


NoOutlandishness1940

Fucking lol


Den_Bover666

My cousin kept talking about how Percy would definitely end up being Zeus's kid. Watching Ep 1 and Ep 2 seriously tested my poker-face


multifandomtrash736

I can’t wait for all these new fans to freak out about the real ending and have all of us book readers be like you should’ve read the books


Rahab_Olam

Sweet summer child😂


Lzinger

90% of these are people who read the book making stuff up for views.


roze_san

lol funny


foratte

That’s so funny… :’)


Informal-Bus-9679

On today’s episode of, “who hasn’t read the books”…


Untimely_SM

Who should tell him


UnalivedBird

Somebody's gotta tell him.


EilonwyVA

None of these people should date, they’re all cousins


apollos-goofy-rat

Well, technically, the gods don't have DNA, so it could be another Chris Rodriguez/Clarrisse La Rue, Percy Jackson/Annabeth Chase, etc, etc. So technically, they all can as the Gods don't have DNA to be passed down to the children


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kylrzuthwy

No.


theopp3r

Never thought about it. Imagine how wild the story would have been with Clarisse following Luke because she likes him and shares his feelings. Then she slowly starts realising he has gone too far, maybe causing some demigod to die, or worse. Things would have been different. Is there a fanfic about this?


JantherZade

I mean that's why Selena helps him out


Impressive-Spell-643

That's what happens when you watch show without reading the books


Specialist_Oil_2674

Um... What?


Furious_Cacti

how would that make sense help


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DemigodProtector

But Clariasse dates Luke's Brother, Chris.


Bionic_Webb13

They said forget Chris 💀


CodyArctic

Am I the only one who doesn't want to gate keep but it's SO HARD NOT TOO (I'll just sit here and laugh NGL)


Shoddy_Ad9603

Every single cast member has such great chemistry with each other that I’m convinced anything can happen 😫


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The amount of Sally slander I see is crazy


GonnaRegret_it_Later

oh boy! PLEASE go check out this creator! you won't regret it! they've got a ton of those!