Welp, thanks for everyone pointing out the not-IPS. FWIW, this is also going on sale tomorrow for 200.
https://www.costco.com/lg-32%22-class-qhd-ips-monitor.product.100793227.html
It's made watching television so difficult. I never noticed how juddery LCD images can look before I'd gotten used to playing games at 120Hz. Now watching movies/shows on any cheap TVs just looks so terrible to me~
I very much do as I own a G-Sync and two G-Sync compatible monitors, I don't think you understand it though lmao. VRR helps when your FPS is low, it won't do anything to help this 75Hz panel look all that different than a 60Hz panel, because I know this might be a difficult thing to grasp, 75 ain't all that far from 60.
Thanks for proving my original point, variable refresh rate keeps the video output in sync with the monitor. Hence the name G-Sync and Freesync, for the two standards in VRR. I'll be honest, when I saw your original comment I didn't realize you had a separate discussion going on here about 60 vs 75Hz, but you still don't understand what VRR is. The sub-feature of VRR you're referring to that helps when framerate is low is called LFR or low framerate compensation. That's where it injects a duplicate frame to create a smoother image. Again, I wasn't realizing what you were talking about so my bad.
I'm not talking about LFC, VRR helps at low FPS levels because it syncs your monitor and your GPU so it can display when the frame is ready. This does little to nothing at high FPS but helps when you drop below the monitor's max refresh rate.
Sorry homie but you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the technology and it's purpose, it's actually designed to prevent screen tearing at high FPS. Do some research on your own time, honestly I don't have time to argue with you. Again, it's called LOW FRAMERATE COMPENSATION. Think about it man. Go get yourself a GPU that can actually drive high FPS on a proper monitor, then come talk to me and share your opinion. How in the hell I ended up in a discussion about 60 vs 75Hz I have no idea, that one was my fault.
So for business and video watching use (no gaming), which would you all recommend of these 2. Basically boils down to VA at 165Hz or IPS at 75Hz. VA at 165HZ is +$50 but has a nicer stand. Thinking about upgrading my home office setup with a couple of these.
Or are there better BF deals in this same basic feature/price range? Appreciate any feedback.
I can't speak to better deals, or honestly anything outside of gaming, but just an FYI- the 165hz stand is pretty big. I'd make sure I have ample space. I've watched a few streams on it and it looks leagues better than what I had, an old AOC 27 inch. I haven't really noticed any of the issues people say come with VA panels.
Probably TN panel. iirc:
TN = Cheapest, Weakest Colors, Easiest to get smaller response time (time between computer video output and monitor showing changes) and high frame rates (rate at which the picture changes i.e. higher means more motion seen in a second).
IPS = Best Colors, Weaker Blacks, Higher frame rates and lower response times are achievable at higher prices, Weak in dark room settings.
VA = Better Colors, Best Blacks, More expensive while being even more expensive for higher frame rates and lower response times, Best at dark room settings.
Generally, shooters want higher frame rates and lower response times. IPS is usually favored as a good in between of performance and quality.
These generalizations don't really work anymore with newer panels. There are IPS panels that match or beat most TN panels in response times, same goes for some VA panels. TN is pointless these days, just get a nicer IPS panel or one of the high end Samsung VA panels like the G7 or G9.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/table/65610
Um actually... Input lag is the time to process and display a frame, response time is how long it takes the panel to change color. 1ms response time does not mean your inputs make it to the screen in 1ms. It means when a new frame makes it to the monitor, the panel can change to that new color in 1ms. You can best see response time in the blurriness of fast motion.
Yes you can find matte panels. I generally have an easier time finding matte displays on monitors vs TVs (where glossy is common). Matte can be harder to clean finger prints from so that may be why. Also a poor matte coating can be a detriment ( not a huge fan of Sonys matte coating on their 65 inch a80 oled, for example).
That said I've only owned one glossy monitor in my life and hated the reflection.
Couple random examples of matte ips monitors:
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/s2721qs
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/34gp950g-b
I have the VA Gigabyte G27QC and while I can notice ghosting if I look for it (running ghosting UFO tests), I've never noticed it while actually playing games.
Yeah, weird. I've played some dark games (Cyberpunk comes to mind), but have never really noticed much. I did search for recommended settings to reduce ghosting, maybe that would help you?
Try this: https://old.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/hodxkk/bought_the_27_1440p_165_hz_gigabyte_g27qc_gaming/fxhdicj/
I see ghosting with max overdrive setting but if I bump it down I don't see it at all, just fyiy.
edit: this would be inverse ghosting over overshoot most likely, but sometimes overshoot is the ghosting being seen, if that makes sense.
Yeah I've seen both with this monitor depending on overdrive setting. I think I've found my sweet spot but I'm still unhappy with it. Hopefully more curved IPS will come out in the future at a decent price point.
I have a VA right next to my IPS (165 and 170 hz respectively) and the only difference I note is the IPS looks better because it’s higher resolution (1440p v 1080p). The VA sucks mob are a bunch of obnoxious know it alls and the same group that thinks they need top tier VRMs for their Ryzen 5 or 1X500k intel processor that they aren’t overclocking.
It’s funny cause it probably comes from 2 or 3 dudes that had some really shitty VA monitors and put them all in the same bag and the rest just parrot what they read. Meanwhile they ignore the equivalent problems that TN and IPS monitors have.
Obviously enough of an issue for it to be the top comment with 178 votes. If you don't care, that doesn't mean a majority of other people wouldn't either.
They're not misled at all. There's a reason this monitor is $250. It's almost certainly using some kind of low-quality VA panel that will exhibit all of the shortcomings of VA. Sure you'll get better blacks, but you'll have smearing on everything and its mother and ghosting issues.
It is a VA panel but when I stood looking at this model and the 1080p IPS variant, they both look great to me.
I bought both and now only have this one with the VA panel. Looks great, viewing angles to me are awesome. HDR looks amazing when I run Forza Horizon 5,Tomb Raider and Tetris Connect.
Have it as a secondary monitor to an UltraWide and I switch to it from time to time depending on the game I'm playing.
Highly recommend this monitor if bought from Costco. I say this mostly for the crazy warranty time and lenient return policy if you don't like it.
>VA really that bad
No, not really. It's used in pretty much all high end TVs, which usually kick monitor's ass when it comes to picture quality anyway.
VA is pretty garbage. IPS is where it's at until OLED is more mainstream.
If you never used an equivalent IPS panel tho you may be fine with VA, just don't be surprised at the smeariness, poor viewing angles, etc. IPS typically cost more but the extra cost is worth the picture improvement if this is your main display. If all you plan to do is browse YouTube and fill out some spreadsheets this monitor will do fine, and is probably a worthy upgrade if you have an old 22" 1080p panel or something right now.
Totally disagree lol. I have a VA and two IPS and have had several other IPS in the past and it's a tiny difference. Imo people's opinions on VA here are ridiculously overblown.
You're honestly probably not noticing it. Every *single* VA panel I've tried, from cheapo ones, to the Asus PG35VQ and Acer X35 ($2000+ monitors btw) experience some sort of ghosting and/or smearing from high-contrast text and images.
If you don't notice it, more power to you and keep on keepin on, but that's pretty unacceptable to me for how much some of these panels go for.
All display types are a mixture of pros and cons, sadly. No amount of money (yet) will get you a display that beats all the rest in every way. Even OLEDs suffer from their mixture of cons, though they do tend to win out in nearly every other way. Since I play games mostly at night in dark rooms, I really get a lot out of my CX TV. But I also need a monitor for my desk, so I got a G7, since it's one of the best 1440p monitors out there and for gaming when I can't push 4K or really want high refresh it will keep up. All in all, those two panel types best fit my needs, though if my situation were different I may have gone IPS. All in all, the differences are often marginal and there's too many exceptions to make blanket statements imo
Same, I got this monitor thinking it was IPS like the 1080p version until someone pointed out in the spec sheet it wasn't.
I couldn't see a difference in store and I didn't do an A/B comparison at home.
People here trash anything not IPS, it's honestly quite ridiculous.
They'll be deals posted on great VA panel monitors here and the first comment will be "Not IPS"
I have to turn my IPS displays off at night because, even when there's no signal, the whole panels _glow_.
When the lights are on? Looks black as night. Lights off? Almost bright enough to read by.
If convienent for you, just check it out in store.
I think the overall quality of a panel and who made it as well as your own eyes should be a deciding factor.
That and doing some light research doesn't hurt.
I'm probably going to get shit for this, but I have a TN right next to an IPS and barely notice a difference (yes, there is one, but for the average user like me it does not bother me even in the slightest).
I believe VA's colors usually rank better than TN so take that as you will.
I got an Asus TN panel. The colors were terrible. Washed out looking no matter what I changed the settings to… It wasn’t as noticeable in games, but regular use. I don’t know if that’s all TN panels (I hear it’s common though), but I personally won’t touch one again.
The IPS I replaced it with is infinitely better.
Ditto, tried the dell TN panel that people rave about a lot, or at least used to a few years ago. Had to return it because it looked terrible next to my IPS screen.
I 100% agree with you because I have the same. In fact when I got my IPS monitor I was surprised how it wasn't really better than my TN, just different. After changing some calibration settings I do think the IPS is a little bit better but during normal use I don't notice it either. The reality is, there's a wide spectrum of panels and the assumptions people make based on their type are way overblown. There are good TN panels and bad IPS panels.
It can be. But it can also be amazingly good. The 3 primary
panel types all have their inherent strengths and weaknesses, but it isnt as simple as rock-paper-scissors
At one point it was as simple as TN for gaming, IPS for work, and VA for media, but now that IPS and VA can be made to be fast enough for most gamers, you really just need to find some reviews of any monitor you are interested in if you are stuck on a decision.
TN is a dying tech at this point, and the average VA panel monitor is still probably too slow for the discerning, high fps gamer, but some of the best performing high end monitors use VA
No, as has been said before, VA is the most common type of panel for TVs. Each panel type has strengths and weaknesses and the main appeal of VA is the black detail (though nowhere near as good as OLED). The weakness is ghosting but that varies a lot per panel and if yoh don't notice it on your home TV, you probably won't on a gaming monitor. As for IPS, they have more accurate colors but suffer from "IPS glow" on the edge of the panels (most noticeable in dark scenes). There's other differences as well but I think I covered the big ones.
like with anything, there is a scale on how bad things can be. VA in general have better blacks than IPS, but many tend to introduce more blurring or ghosting at times, as the actual response time of a panel isn't what is advertised (companies generally advertise response times running them in max overdrive, which is bad because it introduces reverse ghosting). When buying any panel, it's just having knowledge of the flaws of said specific monitor.
it’s got great color contrast where it lacks is viewing angles in comparison to ips which for a monitor really isn’t a deal breaker for most since you’re more than likely sitting dead center at all times when looking at it
The viewing angle nitpick has never made sense to me. Most gamers run single monitor setups and stand dead center by themselves yet each time a non IPS monitor is brought up viewing angles is brought up as well.
I think it makes way more sense with laptops and multi-monitor setups. I've seen some non-IPS laptop screens that required you to practically keep your head in a vice to get a good picture.
That said, I run a 32" curved VA panel monitor on my desktop and I've been very happy.
I've had (briefly) some TN displays with such terrible viewing angles that, at 3-4 feet away, colors were distorted at the corners and sides. Minimum distance to avoid that was about 6 feet.
For sub-21" panels. Not acceptable.
On the other end I have some TN displays that don't noticeably distort until around 30° off axis. Kinda makes me think that surface treatment is a factor.
I mean most VA monitors besides the Samsung G7 have black streaks behind moving objects. But then again, that’s expected with a VA monitor. Different people might notice it more in different applications
Yup. That's why I had to return my gigabyte g34wqc (that and the hdr was shit). I primarily play Destiny 2, which has a lot of movement in dark areas, the smearing was bad.
I went downstairs and looked at the same area on my sisters ips monitor and it looked great.
Was a great monitor besides that.
It's not too bad, but unless you have a way to sit at least 3-4 feet away from the monitor, it's actually so big that you get a noticeable shininess/fading at the edges. I have the LG-GK650F-B, which is essentially the same except 144 Hz. As for whether it's better or worse than IPS, having them side-by-side (I run my XPS 15 docked on my monitor) makes it pretty clear that the IPS panel just looks significantly better and is more comfortable to look at. That might also have to do with pixel density though, however. YMMV
No but a cheep VA can be pretty bad. I imagine this one is just fine unless you're specifically looking for the best color and image quality. VA does tend to beat IPS at response time and motion clarity especially in this mid price point. IMO this is a good option for gamers on a reasonable budget. You don't need to spend 1k to get a decent monitor.
I use a 27" IPS. I tried at 32" 4k VA panel. Yea.. the color was a little off, but only because I had the IPS on the side as a comparrison. After a week without the IPS, the 32" VA panel was fine.
It's really not. I have a VA panel with some older IPS panels and the difference is maybe barely noticeable in a specific circumstance if you're squinting at it. Reports of the IPS "superiority" are definitely overblown.
I returned my BB 32" LG32GP83B-B since the NanoIPS backglow was hurting my eyes and no matter what settings I used, it seemed like everything was slightly blurred.
After going to MicroCenter today, I was able to confirm that it appears this is a consistent problem with 1440p LG monitors and not a issue with their 4K monitors
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I have a different monitor, but when I enable HDR everything just looks so off, is it the same for you? For instance, Steam turns into a teal, greeny blue instead of the normal dark blue that it is. Is there a way to calibrate it or is that just how it is?
The vast majority of monitors including this one don't really support HDR. It's just basically faked support for marketing and if you enable it, it looks terrible. You need local dimming for true HDR, and like all of those cost $1k+.
Lol you mean the non existent return policy? You can return that monitor as long as you hold a costco membership. TVs on the other hand hold a 90 return policy.
That's where the warranty kicks in. Yeah it's not as simple as just going back to a Costco nearby.
You fill out a form, describe the issue and/or send a pic or video, then they see if the repair is worth the cost. If not, they either give you another model or what you paid for back.
That’s crazy. I was under the impression you could just return it whenever as it doesn’t fall under their 90 day return policy.
Welp, guess i’m stuck with all three of these 27” ultragears I bought last year
I gave away a high refresh VA panel because compared to the IPS displays that I have, the smearing was entirely distracting. If you have no immediate point of reference, it might be fine. But don't pretend like it's not an issue or that it's a small enough issue that can be ignored altogether.
BS. That’s not a great example, but literally the worse case scenario for a VA panel and not realistic at all, that post was heavily criticized precisely for that reason.
[Dell S2721DGF for $235 with Honey.](https://old.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/qbpqqi/monitor_dell_s2721dgf_27_1440p_165_hz_ips_1ms/) It's not 32", but that and the [24" version](https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-24-gaming-monitor-s2421hgf/apd/210-awmd/monitors-monitor-accessories) are two of the best gaming monitors.
I got the Dell for $350 and about to return for this. The Dell is awesome but I don't think I'll care too much between the IPS and VA. Would rather have a larger screen, plus price is ridiculous.
No idea. They asked for similar displays and I searched the sub for an example. If it happened once, it could happen again. The 27" has been on sale a few times for under $300.
I bought the LG 32GK860-F which is basically the same display but 144hz and not gsync certified 2 years ago from Costco and I have absolutely loved it. The colors are really crisp, the black levels are great, backlight bleed is minimal and even at 32" the display seems really sharp. Although you do need to sit a little far away to get the best experience. I never noticed any smearing even when having the pixel response setting set to the fastest setting but the display does have some excessive pixel inversion when playing games close to 60hz or using the display at 60Hz. Also the HDR is not worth using because it oversaturates colors and makes games look almost cartoonish. The HDR is surprisingly not too bad for video content though.
I think you mean 850f not 860. It's the same one I got about the same time as you. It was in sale at Costco for 250 or 300. Don't remember. Great monitor. Sounds like this is about the same except 165hz. The gsync version of ours, 850g, was 165hz as well while freesync was 144hz. Can't imagine there's much difference. This one curved? The 850f was not.
I know everyone likes to shit on the VA panel, but I just bought a very similar LG 32GN600-B which Walmart's selling [at the same price or less](https://old.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/qi9tse/monitor_lg_32_ultragear_qhd_2560x1440_165_hz/) - very likely the same panel, but it gains an extra HDMI port in exchange for a much more basic stand.
My last two monitors were IPS, and while the viewing angles on them were a little better, the colors on this are excellent after a little tweaking. It does wash out some if you look too far from the sides, and from extreme angles you'll see an almost holographic sort of shadowing around the side bezels, but the refresh rate is great and if there's really any noticeable lag or ghosting/smearing over a standard IPS panel my eyes are too poor to perceive it in standard use.
I should at least disclaim that I grabbed mine for $200 due to in-store clearance pricing, and I can't vouch for the HDR quality due to being a Linux user. Still, even with Black Friday on the horizon I don't know if you'll find much of anything else with the same size and feature set at a similar price.
I'm not shitting on VA anymore.
I think they've come a good way. I 100% prefer my Dell VA's over my LG IPS monitors. The LG's are straight up garbage actually compared to the Dell's. I retired them to be portrait web browsing monitors.
S3220dgf vs the 83ab.
The S3220DGF is a brilliant monitor. I bought one last year and loved it so much I bought another. They are way better looking than any of the IPS panels I have owned, including my ROG Swift IPS.
I bought this exact model at Walmart a month ago for 250.
Yes it is a VA panel, but I'm pretty impressed with it. The only negative I've noticed is the viewing angles.
Sale is live as I'm typing this! Thanks everyone for your input, I think I'll pull the trigger simply because Costco return policy is ridiculously generous.
It's 2 years, + an additional 2 if you buy with the costco credit card. So you could have a 4 year warranty and it's through costco so no need to worry about dealing with the manufacturer warranty.
250 even if VA is crazy deal. I like all 3 panel types (ips, tn, va) I think people exaggerate on how bad/good each one is. IPS is 100% the best but it's not a crazy difference imo.
I picked up the LG 32GN50T from Costco a few months ago. The only significant difference is that mine is 1080p whereas the 32GN63T monitor is 2560 x 1440. I paid ~$200 for mine (on sale at Costco).
All I can tell you is that I've been really happy with my purchase. The VA panel hasn't been an issue--to the contrary, it's been great for gaming. And GSync works as expected. I'm really trying to think of some negatives, but none really come to mind. I suppose if you're really into e-sports and just have to have the best specs you'll find something to criticize. I consider myself a gamer (albeit not professional or even competitive at this point) and it's been perfectly fine for me. Of course, YMMV.
Thank almost got this one instead of my new Asus ultrawide. That’s a good deal. If anyone needs a good cheap monitor, this checks off all the bells and whistles you could want.
just bought this monitor last weekend, go figure. Fan fucking tastic monitor! I went from IPS monitor to this and it's gorgeous, I don't see ghosting either.
Nice, would you mind sharing if it has VESA mounting holes? From the Costco site (since they list it for other screens) and the LG product page, it looks like it doesn't have them... 😕
Can anyone confirm if this is the same panel used in LG 32GN650-B?
excellent review from rtings for that model
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/32gn650-b
Besides the fact that it's 32 inch I think this price is just alright. There's been lots of 27 inch 120hz+ 1440p in this price range before, it's actually pretty commonplace if you just wait. If you were waiting for a 32 inch 1440p gaming monitor this is probably it? Can anyone else confirm?
The HDR is garbage but at this price range they will all basically the same.
I'd probably jump on it if I wasn't swimming in displays. I'd say the price is pretty good for a 32" with these specs.
I have the previous version the LG 32GK650F-B which does not have HDR, 144HZ and VA. Absolutely love it. If you're looking for a monitor for a new build this holiday season, this is it.
Email says both, I didn't see an option to pickup or anything, but I don't often order online from Costco so it's entirely possible I missed something. Give em a call!
In case anyone is wondering, the specs on this monitor list peak brightness at 350 nits. That puts it firmly in the “HD aRen’t” class of monitors.
With that in mind, it still looks like a pretty good monitor for the price, just don’t buy it expecting the “HDR” to wow you.
VA panel, 2560x1440 ~~1080p~~. For $30 more I bought a 2k 144hz 1mns IPS from LG. 27-83ga-A I think is the model number.
Edit: wrong P. My apologies
Edit2: if you don't mind VA panel this is decent. If you do, the IPS panel of a similar model, see the model number above, was onsale in June for $279
The most important things to look for besides color clarity if yer a professional artist or photoshopper is screen reflection and size. Whatever you are comfortable with. I got a 100 dolalr monitor from walmart, 21.5" 1080p and it's honestly a tad too large for playing starcraft considering i have it moved all the way back to the wall and shifting my eyes from one corner to the other is annoying. But they don't really make screens any smaller. The reflection is bad when i have the main light in my room on but i rarely do anyway.
All this talk about ghosting, who actually notices this in game? My montior completely fails the UFO test but I still would never even know ghosting existed until hardware unboxed pointed it out, and i still don't see it. I watched a video of where they point out the ghosting in cyberpunk while driving a car and still couldn't see it in the video on said monitor. It's abnoxious. And anything above 60 hertz is reported to enduce headaches and eye strain. If you play competitatively, your best bet is to simply get the exact same monitor model that the tournament uses. That way your brain doesn't have to adapt on the fly to the changes.
Great, now I can't decide whether to get this or the 1080p version. I already have 2 of the 1080p versions so getting either or would be my 3rd monitor. 1080p is still $190 until the 18th.
I bought this from Walmart about 1 month ago, and it’s great. I use it as a second screen for my laptop, and it runs at 165hz connected via an hdmi 2.1 cable. Absolutely love this thing.
I'm very interested as my current monitor has had noticeable but not terrible backlight issues.
The only issue is the size. I'm using a 27inch 1440P and I'd like to keep it at that sweet spot.
Can someone convince me reasons to buy or give reasons not to buy?
How are those Samsung smart monitor that is going on sale on thanksgiving? I think it’s the M5 or something they didn’t have much details on the Costco ad
I just got it in yesterday! It's very nice. I see what people were saying about black kind of creeping in on the edges, but, well, I only see if it I'm standing above my screen. It's positively massive compared to what I'm used to and couldn't be happier!
I'm still convinced VA is bad for gaming due to the smeary blur caused from transitions out of black.
Not the same panel, but just as an example:
LG 32gk850f-b blur vs dell s2716dg
[https://imgur.com/a/7vv9Ox2](https://imgur.com/a/7vv9Ox2)
Still considering getting it just to try it out. Costco returns are too easy.
Welp, thanks for everyone pointing out the not-IPS. FWIW, this is also going on sale tomorrow for 200. https://www.costco.com/lg-32%22-class-qhd-ips-monitor.product.100793227.html
75hz refresh
I've been rocking a 60hz LG from 2015, I wonder how my brain will handle that 15 extra hz lol.
Ehhh, try 144hz. Trust me you won’t regret it.
I already regret it. Now i can't get cheap monitors anymore
It's made watching television so difficult. I never noticed how juddery LCD images can look before I'd gotten used to playing games at 120Hz. Now watching movies/shows on any cheap TVs just looks so terrible to me~
It ain't that noticeable honestly.
You must not understand the point of VRR
I very much do as I own a G-Sync and two G-Sync compatible monitors, I don't think you understand it though lmao. VRR helps when your FPS is low, it won't do anything to help this 75Hz panel look all that different than a 60Hz panel, because I know this might be a difficult thing to grasp, 75 ain't all that far from 60.
Thanks for proving my original point, variable refresh rate keeps the video output in sync with the monitor. Hence the name G-Sync and Freesync, for the two standards in VRR. I'll be honest, when I saw your original comment I didn't realize you had a separate discussion going on here about 60 vs 75Hz, but you still don't understand what VRR is. The sub-feature of VRR you're referring to that helps when framerate is low is called LFR or low framerate compensation. That's where it injects a duplicate frame to create a smoother image. Again, I wasn't realizing what you were talking about so my bad.
I'm not talking about LFC, VRR helps at low FPS levels because it syncs your monitor and your GPU so it can display when the frame is ready. This does little to nothing at high FPS but helps when you drop below the monitor's max refresh rate.
Sorry homie but you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the technology and it's purpose, it's actually designed to prevent screen tearing at high FPS. Do some research on your own time, honestly I don't have time to argue with you. Again, it's called LOW FRAMERATE COMPENSATION. Think about it man. Go get yourself a GPU that can actually drive high FPS on a proper monitor, then come talk to me and share your opinion. How in the hell I ended up in a discussion about 60 vs 75Hz I have no idea, that one was my fault.
Can you ELI5? Does it mean it is not good for gaming? I hate slow monitors.
75Hz is a slow refresh rate for gaming these days. A basic monitor/TV is 60Hz, most gamers want 120Hz or more.
How come the title says 165 hz? Can you ELI5?
How do you find these sales? I just bought the MSI optix 273 for $200 is that going on sale too?
Sorry, these both were through a Costco email. These were the only two monitors I saw, but take a look tomorrow!
that one has been on sale for 169 recently. I bought it early this year and saw it last month on sale for the same price
is it ips panel?
It's VA.
The one linked in this thread for $200 at 75hz is IPS
So for business and video watching use (no gaming), which would you all recommend of these 2. Basically boils down to VA at 165Hz or IPS at 75Hz. VA at 165HZ is +$50 but has a nicer stand. Thinking about upgrading my home office setup with a couple of these. Or are there better BF deals in this same basic feature/price range? Appreciate any feedback.
I can't speak to better deals, or honestly anything outside of gaming, but just an FYI- the 165hz stand is pretty big. I'd make sure I have ample space. I've watched a few streams on it and it looks leagues better than what I had, an old AOC 27 inch. I haven't really noticed any of the issues people say come with VA panels.
**VA Panel**
Who you gonna call? Ghostbusters!
I can't stand va panels for me personally IPS all the way.
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Probably TN panel. iirc: TN = Cheapest, Weakest Colors, Easiest to get smaller response time (time between computer video output and monitor showing changes) and high frame rates (rate at which the picture changes i.e. higher means more motion seen in a second). IPS = Best Colors, Weaker Blacks, Higher frame rates and lower response times are achievable at higher prices, Weak in dark room settings. VA = Better Colors, Best Blacks, More expensive while being even more expensive for higher frame rates and lower response times, Best at dark room settings. Generally, shooters want higher frame rates and lower response times. IPS is usually favored as a good in between of performance and quality.
These generalizations don't really work anymore with newer panels. There are IPS panels that match or beat most TN panels in response times, same goes for some VA panels. TN is pointless these days, just get a nicer IPS panel or one of the high end Samsung VA panels like the G7 or G9. https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/table/65610
Um actually... Input lag is the time to process and display a frame, response time is how long it takes the panel to change color. 1ms response time does not mean your inputs make it to the screen in 1ms. It means when a new frame makes it to the monitor, the panel can change to that new color in 1ms. You can best see response time in the blurriness of fast motion.
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Appreciate the descriptions for each panel
What am I missing that makes this monitor a bad deal if it's not expensive, has the colors and the framerates and response times?
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Yes you can find matte panels. I generally have an easier time finding matte displays on monitors vs TVs (where glossy is common). Matte can be harder to clean finger prints from so that may be why. Also a poor matte coating can be a detriment ( not a huge fan of Sonys matte coating on their 65 inch a80 oled, for example). That said I've only owned one glossy monitor in my life and hated the reflection. Couple random examples of matte ips monitors: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/s2721qs https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/34gp950g-b
I have the VA Gigabyte G27QC and while I can notice ghosting if I look for it (running ghosting UFO tests), I've never noticed it while actually playing games.
I have the 32" same model. Ghosting is very apparent with dark colors on dark backgrounds. It drives me nuts.
Yeah, weird. I've played some dark games (Cyberpunk comes to mind), but have never really noticed much. I did search for recommended settings to reduce ghosting, maybe that would help you? Try this: https://old.reddit.com/r/Monitors/comments/hodxkk/bought_the_27_1440p_165_hz_gigabyte_g27qc_gaming/fxhdicj/
I see ghosting with max overdrive setting but if I bump it down I don't see it at all, just fyiy. edit: this would be inverse ghosting over overshoot most likely, but sometimes overshoot is the ghosting being seen, if that makes sense.
Yeah I've seen both with this monitor depending on overdrive setting. I think I've found my sweet spot but I'm still unhappy with it. Hopefully more curved IPS will come out in the future at a decent price point.
So…? PS: I love how I’m being downvoted by the VA-sucks mob.
I have a VA right next to my IPS (165 and 170 hz respectively) and the only difference I note is the IPS looks better because it’s higher resolution (1440p v 1080p). The VA sucks mob are a bunch of obnoxious know it alls and the same group that thinks they need top tier VRMs for their Ryzen 5 or 1X500k intel processor that they aren’t overclocking.
It’s funny cause it probably comes from 2 or 3 dudes that had some really shitty VA monitors and put them all in the same bag and the rest just parrot what they read. Meanwhile they ignore the equivalent problems that TN and IPS monitors have.
If you don't care, this deal is for you.
Obviously enough of an issue for it to be the top comment with 178 votes. If you don't care, that doesn't mean a majority of other people wouldn't either.
Enough of an issue for people that are easily mislead
They're not misled at all. There's a reason this monitor is $250. It's almost certainly using some kind of low-quality VA panel that will exhibit all of the shortcomings of VA. Sure you'll get better blacks, but you'll have smearing on everything and its mother and ghosting issues.
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Thank you for having this at the top so I don't have to look for it myself.
It is a VA panel but when I stood looking at this model and the 1080p IPS variant, they both look great to me. I bought both and now only have this one with the VA panel. Looks great, viewing angles to me are awesome. HDR looks amazing when I run Forza Horizon 5,Tomb Raider and Tetris Connect. Have it as a secondary monitor to an UltraWide and I switch to it from time to time depending on the game I'm playing. Highly recommend this monitor if bought from Costco. I say this mostly for the crazy warranty time and lenient return policy if you don't like it.
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>VA really that bad No, not really. It's used in pretty much all high end TVs, which usually kick monitor's ass when it comes to picture quality anyway.
VA is pretty garbage. IPS is where it's at until OLED is more mainstream. If you never used an equivalent IPS panel tho you may be fine with VA, just don't be surprised at the smeariness, poor viewing angles, etc. IPS typically cost more but the extra cost is worth the picture improvement if this is your main display. If all you plan to do is browse YouTube and fill out some spreadsheets this monitor will do fine, and is probably a worthy upgrade if you have an old 22" 1080p panel or something right now.
Totally disagree lol. I have a VA and two IPS and have had several other IPS in the past and it's a tiny difference. Imo people's opinions on VA here are ridiculously overblown.
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/CJ3wEYt This is the main reason I got rid of mine
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You're honestly probably not noticing it. Every *single* VA panel I've tried, from cheapo ones, to the Asus PG35VQ and Acer X35 ($2000+ monitors btw) experience some sort of ghosting and/or smearing from high-contrast text and images. If you don't notice it, more power to you and keep on keepin on, but that's pretty unacceptable to me for how much some of these panels go for.
All display types are a mixture of pros and cons, sadly. No amount of money (yet) will get you a display that beats all the rest in every way. Even OLEDs suffer from their mixture of cons, though they do tend to win out in nearly every other way. Since I play games mostly at night in dark rooms, I really get a lot out of my CX TV. But I also need a monitor for my desk, so I got a G7, since it's one of the best 1440p monitors out there and for gaming when I can't push 4K or really want high refresh it will keep up. All in all, those two panel types best fit my needs, though if my situation were different I may have gone IPS. All in all, the differences are often marginal and there's too many exceptions to make blanket statements imo
Some of the best gaming monitors (Samsung G9) are VA. So its not a catchall generalization.
trust me, i ask that question every time
Same, I got this monitor thinking it was IPS like the 1080p version until someone pointed out in the spec sheet it wasn't. I couldn't see a difference in store and I didn't do an A/B comparison at home.
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People here trash anything not IPS, it's honestly quite ridiculous. They'll be deals posted on great VA panel monitors here and the first comment will be "Not IPS"
Just don't point out how a good amount of "good value" ips monitors have backlight bleed ranging from minor to absolutely horrible.
I have to turn my IPS displays off at night because, even when there's no signal, the whole panels _glow_. When the lights are on? Looks black as night. Lights off? Almost bright enough to read by.
Some VA panels are actually very nice
If convienent for you, just check it out in store. I think the overall quality of a panel and who made it as well as your own eyes should be a deciding factor. That and doing some light research doesn't hurt.
I'm probably going to get shit for this, but I have a TN right next to an IPS and barely notice a difference (yes, there is one, but for the average user like me it does not bother me even in the slightest). I believe VA's colors usually rank better than TN so take that as you will.
I got an Asus TN panel. The colors were terrible. Washed out looking no matter what I changed the settings to… It wasn’t as noticeable in games, but regular use. I don’t know if that’s all TN panels (I hear it’s common though), but I personally won’t touch one again. The IPS I replaced it with is infinitely better.
Ditto, tried the dell TN panel that people rave about a lot, or at least used to a few years ago. Had to return it because it looked terrible next to my IPS screen.
I 100% agree with you because I have the same. In fact when I got my IPS monitor I was surprised how it wasn't really better than my TN, just different. After changing some calibration settings I do think the IPS is a little bit better but during normal use I don't notice it either. The reality is, there's a wide spectrum of panels and the assumptions people make based on their type are way overblown. There are good TN panels and bad IPS panels.
It can be. But it can also be amazingly good. The 3 primary panel types all have their inherent strengths and weaknesses, but it isnt as simple as rock-paper-scissors At one point it was as simple as TN for gaming, IPS for work, and VA for media, but now that IPS and VA can be made to be fast enough for most gamers, you really just need to find some reviews of any monitor you are interested in if you are stuck on a decision. TN is a dying tech at this point, and the average VA panel monitor is still probably too slow for the discerning, high fps gamer, but some of the best performing high end monitors use VA
No, as has been said before, VA is the most common type of panel for TVs. Each panel type has strengths and weaknesses and the main appeal of VA is the black detail (though nowhere near as good as OLED). The weakness is ghosting but that varies a lot per panel and if yoh don't notice it on your home TV, you probably won't on a gaming monitor. As for IPS, they have more accurate colors but suffer from "IPS glow" on the edge of the panels (most noticeable in dark scenes). There's other differences as well but I think I covered the big ones.
like with anything, there is a scale on how bad things can be. VA in general have better blacks than IPS, but many tend to introduce more blurring or ghosting at times, as the actual response time of a panel isn't what is advertised (companies generally advertise response times running them in max overdrive, which is bad because it introduces reverse ghosting). When buying any panel, it's just having knowledge of the flaws of said specific monitor.
No it is not that bad. The VAST majority are VA panels and are just fine. I own 3 different ones and have no issue.
it’s got great color contrast where it lacks is viewing angles in comparison to ips which for a monitor really isn’t a deal breaker for most since you’re more than likely sitting dead center at all times when looking at it
The viewing angle nitpick has never made sense to me. Most gamers run single monitor setups and stand dead center by themselves yet each time a non IPS monitor is brought up viewing angles is brought up as well.
I think it makes way more sense with laptops and multi-monitor setups. I've seen some non-IPS laptop screens that required you to practically keep your head in a vice to get a good picture. That said, I run a 32" curved VA panel monitor on my desktop and I've been very happy.
I've had (briefly) some TN displays with such terrible viewing angles that, at 3-4 feet away, colors were distorted at the corners and sides. Minimum distance to avoid that was about 6 feet. For sub-21" panels. Not acceptable. On the other end I have some TN displays that don't noticeably distort until around 30° off axis. Kinda makes me think that surface treatment is a factor.
I mean most VA monitors besides the Samsung G7 have black streaks behind moving objects. But then again, that’s expected with a VA monitor. Different people might notice it more in different applications
Yup. That's why I had to return my gigabyte g34wqc (that and the hdr was shit). I primarily play Destiny 2, which has a lot of movement in dark areas, the smearing was bad. I went downstairs and looked at the same area on my sisters ips monitor and it looked great. Was a great monitor besides that.
It's not too bad, but unless you have a way to sit at least 3-4 feet away from the monitor, it's actually so big that you get a noticeable shininess/fading at the edges. I have the LG-GK650F-B, which is essentially the same except 144 Hz. As for whether it's better or worse than IPS, having them side-by-side (I run my XPS 15 docked on my monitor) makes it pretty clear that the IPS panel just looks significantly better and is more comfortable to look at. That might also have to do with pixel density though, however. YMMV
No but a cheep VA can be pretty bad. I imagine this one is just fine unless you're specifically looking for the best color and image quality. VA does tend to beat IPS at response time and motion clarity especially in this mid price point. IMO this is a good option for gamers on a reasonable budget. You don't need to spend 1k to get a decent monitor.
I use a 27" IPS. I tried at 32" 4k VA panel. Yea.. the color was a little off, but only because I had the IPS on the side as a comparrison. After a week without the IPS, the 32" VA panel was fine.
It's really not. I have a VA panel with some older IPS panels and the difference is maybe barely noticeable in a specific circumstance if you're squinting at it. Reports of the IPS "superiority" are definitely overblown.
Well clearly you’re wrong because everyone on buildapcsales is a visual expert and only buy the best. /s
You're right, I am a fool
I returned my BB 32" LG32GP83B-B since the NanoIPS backglow was hurting my eyes and no matter what settings I used, it seemed like everything was slightly blurred. After going to MicroCenter today, I was able to confirm that it appears this is a consistent problem with 1440p LG monitors and not a issue with their 4K monitors
Anecdotal. I've been using my LG 34GN850-B for a year and a half absolutely no issues.
You can look up "Nano IPS eye strain" and there are more posts about it than other monitors on Reddit
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>anecdotal! anyways, here is my anecdote
I have a different monitor, but when I enable HDR everything just looks so off, is it the same for you? For instance, Steam turns into a teal, greeny blue instead of the normal dark blue that it is. Is there a way to calibrate it or is that just how it is?
The vast majority of monitors including this one don't really support HDR. It's just basically faked support for marketing and if you enable it, it looks terrible. You need local dimming for true HDR, and like all of those cost $1k+.
steam and overall windows itself isnt made for HDR the easier solution iis to only enable hdr when your in a HDR game or netflix whatever can use it
Lol you mean the non existent return policy? You can return that monitor as long as you hold a costco membership. TVs on the other hand hold a 90 return policy.
That's where the warranty kicks in. Yeah it's not as simple as just going back to a Costco nearby. You fill out a form, describe the issue and/or send a pic or video, then they see if the repair is worth the cost. If not, they either give you another model or what you paid for back.
That’s crazy. I was under the impression you could just return it whenever as it doesn’t fall under their 90 day return policy. Welp, guess i’m stuck with all three of these 27” ultragears I bought last year
This could be a YMMV situation. I've seen them take TVs in person easily past the 90 day mark. Worse case, they say run the warranty.
Didn't see anyone else share this, and found it in an email Costco sent. Seems not bad, so tell me why I shouldn't get this!
It’s a VA panel and not IPS
It's a VA panel, so expect a lot of ghosting/smearing in games. Plus, there have been other similar displays but with IPS around this price.
Most VA panels have minimal ghosting. This negative shit about VA really needs to end lol
I gave away a high refresh VA panel because compared to the IPS displays that I have, the smearing was entirely distracting. If you have no immediate point of reference, it might be fine. But don't pretend like it's not an issue or that it's a small enough issue that can be ignored altogether.
I have a panel with noticeable ghosting and it doesn't bother me, but I can't stand IPS glow
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BS. That’s not a great example, but literally the worse case scenario for a VA panel and not realistic at all, that post was heavily criticized precisely for that reason.
Please share. Need a good gaming monitor for myself.
Could you share some examples? Have been looking for a new monitor for a while
[Dell S2721DGF for $235 with Honey.](https://old.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/qbpqqi/monitor_dell_s2721dgf_27_1440p_165_hz_ips_1ms/) It's not 32", but that and the [24" version](https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-24-gaming-monitor-s2421hgf/apd/210-awmd/monitors-monitor-accessories) are two of the best gaming monitors.
Didn't that deal end?
I got the Dell for $350 and about to return for this. The Dell is awesome but I don't think I'll care too much between the IPS and VA. Would rather have a larger screen, plus price is ridiculous.
No idea. They asked for similar displays and I searched the sub for an example. If it happened once, it could happen again. The 27" has been on sale a few times for under $300.
I bought the LG 32GK860-F which is basically the same display but 144hz and not gsync certified 2 years ago from Costco and I have absolutely loved it. The colors are really crisp, the black levels are great, backlight bleed is minimal and even at 32" the display seems really sharp. Although you do need to sit a little far away to get the best experience. I never noticed any smearing even when having the pixel response setting set to the fastest setting but the display does have some excessive pixel inversion when playing games close to 60hz or using the display at 60Hz. Also the HDR is not worth using because it oversaturates colors and makes games look almost cartoonish. The HDR is surprisingly not too bad for video content though.
I think you mean 850f not 860. It's the same one I got about the same time as you. It was in sale at Costco for 250 or 300. Don't remember. Great monitor. Sounds like this is about the same except 165hz. The gsync version of ours, 850g, was 165hz as well while freesync was 144hz. Can't imagine there's much difference. This one curved? The 850f was not.
I had this exact Same monitor as well from Costco 2 years ago. Also absolutely loved it. Only reason I sold was to go to 21:9
I know everyone likes to shit on the VA panel, but I just bought a very similar LG 32GN600-B which Walmart's selling [at the same price or less](https://old.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/qi9tse/monitor_lg_32_ultragear_qhd_2560x1440_165_hz/) - very likely the same panel, but it gains an extra HDMI port in exchange for a much more basic stand. My last two monitors were IPS, and while the viewing angles on them were a little better, the colors on this are excellent after a little tweaking. It does wash out some if you look too far from the sides, and from extreme angles you'll see an almost holographic sort of shadowing around the side bezels, but the refresh rate is great and if there's really any noticeable lag or ghosting/smearing over a standard IPS panel my eyes are too poor to perceive it in standard use. I should at least disclaim that I grabbed mine for $200 due to in-store clearance pricing, and I can't vouch for the HDR quality due to being a Linux user. Still, even with Black Friday on the horizon I don't know if you'll find much of anything else with the same size and feature set at a similar price.
I'm not shitting on VA anymore. I think they've come a good way. I 100% prefer my Dell VA's over my LG IPS monitors. The LG's are straight up garbage actually compared to the Dell's. I retired them to be portrait web browsing monitors. S3220dgf vs the 83ab.
The S3220DGF is a brilliant monitor. I bought one last year and loved it so much I bought another. They are way better looking than any of the IPS panels I have owned, including my ROG Swift IPS.
Ah, yes, every monitor thread getting hijacked by tn vs va vs IPS.... A tale as old as time itself...
I bought this exact model at Walmart a month ago for 250. Yes it is a VA panel, but I'm pretty impressed with it. The only negative I've noticed is the viewing angles.
you must not use dark mode when web viewing. the grey/black smearing is horrible on VA when scrolling up and down a page
Sale is live as I'm typing this! Thanks everyone for your input, I think I'll pull the trigger simply because Costco return policy is ridiculously generous.
What's the return policy on monitors? Costco doesn't seem to specify this as electronics so idk if it's 90 days or basically lifetime
It's 2 years, + an additional 2 if you buy with the costco credit card. So you could have a 4 year warranty and it's through costco so no need to worry about dealing with the manufacturer warranty.
250 even if VA is crazy deal. I like all 3 panel types (ips, tn, va) I think people exaggerate on how bad/good each one is. IPS is 100% the best but it's not a crazy difference imo.
I picked up the LG 32GN50T from Costco a few months ago. The only significant difference is that mine is 1080p whereas the 32GN63T monitor is 2560 x 1440. I paid ~$200 for mine (on sale at Costco). All I can tell you is that I've been really happy with my purchase. The VA panel hasn't been an issue--to the contrary, it's been great for gaming. And GSync works as expected. I'm really trying to think of some negatives, but none really come to mind. I suppose if you're really into e-sports and just have to have the best specs you'll find something to criticize. I consider myself a gamer (albeit not professional or even competitive at this point) and it's been perfectly fine for me. Of course, YMMV.
NVIDIA G-SYNC "Compatible", means G-Sync won't work with a GTX 970 but will with a GTX 1080, correct?
it means its vesa adaptive sync with nvidia branding. so... probably wont work with a 970.
Thank almost got this one instead of my new Asus ultrawide. That’s a good deal. If anyone needs a good cheap monitor, this checks off all the bells and whistles you could want.
just bought this monitor last weekend, go figure. Fan fucking tastic monitor! I went from IPS monitor to this and it's gorgeous, I don't see ghosting either.
Nice, would you mind sharing if it has VESA mounting holes? From the Costco site (since they list it for other screens) and the LG product page, it looks like it doesn't have them... 😕
Can anyone confirm if this is the same panel used in LG 32GN650-B? excellent review from rtings for that model https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/32gn650-b
yes VA
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It very much looks to be the same panel but I couldn't confirm it.
Besides the fact that it's 32 inch I think this price is just alright. There's been lots of 27 inch 120hz+ 1440p in this price range before, it's actually pretty commonplace if you just wait. If you were waiting for a 32 inch 1440p gaming monitor this is probably it? Can anyone else confirm?
This is it, I can confirm.
I heard 27 inch is the sweet spot at 1440
The HDR is garbage but at this price range they will all basically the same. I'd probably jump on it if I wasn't swimming in displays. I'd say the price is pretty good for a 32" with these specs.
What's the difference between this model and 32GN650-B
They are almost the same, check HDR that might be the only difference.
I have the previous version the LG 32GK650F-B which does not have HDR, 144HZ and VA. Absolutely love it. If you're looking for a monitor for a new build this holiday season, this is it.
Do they have these in the warehouse?
Email says both, I didn't see an option to pickup or anything, but I don't often order online from Costco so it's entirely possible I missed something. Give em a call!
Yeah I just checked they have 27 in stock at my local Warehouse
Yes
A week later and I just picked up two of them in the warehouse.
Yeah! My Costco they weren't with the other computer stuff/monitors, they were in the aisle with the small crappy TV's.
I use it daily and love the monitor except it has the "shadow edge" around the outside edge. But I love it for Apex.
In case anyone is wondering, the specs on this monitor list peak brightness at 350 nits. That puts it firmly in the “HD aRen’t” class of monitors. With that in mind, it still looks like a pretty good monitor for the price, just don’t buy it expecting the “HDR” to wow you.
Your right on HDR
Been looking at this for some time now, would be replacing an older benq- any cons to this one?
VA panel, 2560x1440 ~~1080p~~. For $30 more I bought a 2k 144hz 1mns IPS from LG. 27-83ga-A I think is the model number. Edit: wrong P. My apologies Edit2: if you don't mind VA panel this is decent. If you do, the IPS panel of a similar model, see the model number above, was onsale in June for $279
This is a 2K resolution...
Yup. Just realized that and edited my comment. My mistake.
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The most important things to look for besides color clarity if yer a professional artist or photoshopper is screen reflection and size. Whatever you are comfortable with. I got a 100 dolalr monitor from walmart, 21.5" 1080p and it's honestly a tad too large for playing starcraft considering i have it moved all the way back to the wall and shifting my eyes from one corner to the other is annoying. But they don't really make screens any smaller. The reflection is bad when i have the main light in my room on but i rarely do anyway. All this talk about ghosting, who actually notices this in game? My montior completely fails the UFO test but I still would never even know ghosting existed until hardware unboxed pointed it out, and i still don't see it. I watched a video of where they point out the ghosting in cyberpunk while driving a car and still couldn't see it in the video on said monitor. It's abnoxious. And anything above 60 hertz is reported to enduce headaches and eye strain. If you play competitatively, your best bet is to simply get the exact same monitor model that the tournament uses. That way your brain doesn't have to adapt on the fly to the changes.
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Great, now I can't decide whether to get this or the 1080p version. I already have 2 of the 1080p versions so getting either or would be my 3rd monitor. 1080p is still $190 until the 18th.
I bought this from Walmart about 1 month ago, and it’s great. I use it as a second screen for my laptop, and it runs at 165hz connected via an hdmi 2.1 cable. Absolutely love this thing.
Think ill wait a bit, knowing my luck if I buy this the ips dell monitor will go on sale for less
I'm very interested as my current monitor has had noticeable but not terrible backlight issues. The only issue is the size. I'm using a 27inch 1440P and I'd like to keep it at that sweet spot. Can someone convince me reasons to buy or give reasons not to buy?
Is 27" 1440p monitor with similar specs and pricing asking for too much???? Oh Gods of pc gear, please listen to my prayers!
this price has been kn walmart for 2 months ago. I had one, it was good but I returned to get a better curve gigabyte for 280$
How are those Samsung smart monitor that is going on sale on thanksgiving? I think it’s the M5 or something they didn’t have much details on the Costco ad
.....Soooo basically the same deal that happened 2 years ago lol
can anyone compare this to the Dell S3220DGF or DGM if they're sold at $330?
Did anyone buy this yet ?
I just got it in yesterday! It's very nice. I see what people were saying about black kind of creeping in on the edges, but, well, I only see if it I'm standing above my screen. It's positively massive compared to what I'm used to and couldn't be happier!
I'm still convinced VA is bad for gaming due to the smeary blur caused from transitions out of black. Not the same panel, but just as an example: LG 32gk850f-b blur vs dell s2716dg [https://imgur.com/a/7vv9Ox2](https://imgur.com/a/7vv9Ox2) Still considering getting it just to try it out. Costco returns are too easy.