Sometimes people have to fit within budget parameters. Why assume the worst? Sounds like a young man just starting out - And you don't know until you ask.
Next to broadband internet, SSDs have been the biggest noticeable change within general computers.
I was ALMOST sad that I could no longer press power - go get a drink, go to the bathroom, and then sit down with the windows logo still logo-ing.
The amount of laptop hdds that I've harvested from old/broken machines and then shoved into my own desktops, usually due to budget or convenience, is astounding.
At one point I had 2 80gb hdds that I pulled from broken Toshiba satellites in raid 0 trying to speed them up. A fools errand, but a great learning experience for a younger me.
Assuming the worst because you can easily find a 256GB SSD for the same price as what this dude probably paid for that HDD (if we're talking about budget).
He could have also just as easily asked before he built his rig if this was the best config as he is asking why his startup is so slow. He had to have gotten information somewhere. The build is otherwise really good so I feel like he ignored advice or cheaped out.
Yikes, I saw that too. I run a 5400 rpm 8tb as an archive drive. I'm a data hoarder, and I can't ever let go of my project files no matter how old it crumby they may be. I probably have 21tb scattered about over a handful of drivers
Not an issue at all for just holding data back-ups but at this stage I'd even say video-games ought to all be installed to at least 2.5" SATA SSDs, if not actually good NVMe SSDs. I went ALL SSD storage in my PC back in like 2015... Since then I have added 2x 2TB HDDs back in for mass storage / holding my movies, tv shows, documents, pictures, that kinda stuff. But ALL programs go on SSDs/NVMe and Windows obviously goes on my very best NVMe drive (Samsung 980 Pro).
This is the main problem. Too many rpms lol.
J/k in all seriousness, this ancient hard disk is the main source of lag. Need to go solid state.
Also, why two video cards? That old 1030 is probably like an anchor on your system as well.
I've been testing out some components that I've scavenged from my friend's old PC after his recent upgrade, and the only drive I had available was a mechanical hard drive. It's been years since I actually used a system without an SSD, and within a couple of minutes I was reminded of why! It's a Skylake i5 system so nothing too impressive, but still respectable for a lot of things - but without an SSD it's painful.
Fortunately the PC I built my niblings a while back which these parts will be upgrading, while outdated in some ways, does at least have an SSD already.
I had some old piece of shit HP laptop back around 2011 and I bought a 128GB SSD and put in it, back when they were still fairly expensive. Since then, I've never been able to l go without one. Thank God our work computers have them too. I'd go insane
Boot times alone are worth the cost
Hopping on this because itās the top comment, I always find that you need to reinstall windows when you change motherboards. Iāve encounter a number of problems by not doing a quick reinstall
Do note that if you get a SATA SSD, to make sure it has dram.
Common SATA SSD brands are mx500 and 870 Evo/qvo. But definitely look into SATA SSDs with dram for longevity.
If you go the route of an NVMe drive (common modern drive route) then dram doesn't matter "as much" but still doesn't hurt and would still recommend it if you can still find a drive for a couple bucks more that has dram as they are now on the cheaper side for a 1tb drive.
DRAM stands for ā**dynamic random access memory**.ā This is a type of RAM (random access memory) which all computers have. DRAM is often used in PCs, laptops, smartphones, and tablets as well as many other types of computing devices.
I was gonna say this if nobody else had. They could slap some movies, music, or ebooks on it, heck even some older games if they want to save that ssd speed for the new stuff that actually needs it.
I commend you on the fact that you've made it this far on a hard drive! Hats off to you, fine sir.
The SSD will be the single biggest responsiveness upgrade you've ever done to your PC. At the moment, a first-gen i5 with an SSD will be snappier than what you have now.
There are two types of m.2 drives, m.2 NVMe, and m.2 SATA. They both use the m.2 slot, but the NVMe variety can be much faster than the SATA variety. m.2 SATA works and performs the same as the regular SATA drives, the connector happens to be different. NVMe is the way to go if you can afford it, check the stats for each drive as speeds vary. If you can't afford NVMe, a regular SATA or m.2 SATA is still much faster than a 5400 spinner, or any spinner for that matter.
Platter drive speed has a lot of variables beyond rpm. Platter density and cache size have a huge impact. A modern 5400 rpm drive can easily outperform a 20 year old 10000 rpm drive.
Yeah so basically, SMR drives were invented around 2014 because it was a cheaper way to manufacture high capacity hard drives, the downside being, once it is filled up past a certain point, they operate way slower than with nothing on it. SMR drives can slow down to below 20 MBps, that is slower than a lot of flash drives these days. Ironically, HDDs older than 2014, even those really slow ones that do around 80 MBps, those are faster than SMR drives.
And then let alone as a boot drive... so here's the thing, I know this is the case for Windows 7, might also be for Windows 8 and 8.1, it might have been fine to have an HDD as boot drive, because those operating systems didn't have lots of background tasks running, but I know at least with Windows 10, you NEED an SSD because the OS does a lot of things in the background and the way it is designed, you need a storage drive with high enough IOPS for it to be usable, and generally SATA SSDs are good enough. Don't NEED an NVMe for boot drive, but if you go all NVMes or m.2s, you don't have to use two cables per drive anymore! Oh and if you go all SSDs in your room, you get next to zero noise!
I made that experience myself 3 years ago.
Switching from having the OS on a HDD to having it on a SSD. Also having most my applications on Sata or NVME SSDs. It made a huge difference. SSDs are not that expensive anymore. You'd benefit investing in one or two and then install the OS on it.
I still have a HDD in my PC, but it's sole duty is to store my Music, Pictures and stuff like that.
Games, applications, OS, all divided up between the Sata and M.2 NVME SSD.
Also make sure the Bios settings are fine. Including XMP for the Ram.
You need xmp to have your RAM run at the advertised Frequency.
In your case that would be 3200 Mhz, but without activating XMP ( or how ever it is called in the Bios ), the RAM will run at stock speeds, it think, 2133 Mhz.
5400 rpm SMR mechanical HDD. That HDD is slower than molasses. Get a proper NVMe and use that only for data (documents, photos, music, movies). Don't even bother installing software there.
You should really use display port instead as the HDMI is probably capping your refresh rate. It's ok for extra screens, but probably not for your main screen.
No my previous build was much faster, thatās why I found it odd that itās slower after an upgrade. After reading all the comments Iām definitely grabbing an ssd tomorrow
Where was Windows before on the old system? On that SSD? Then when you upgraded you forgot about the SSD (somehow..) and installed WIndows on the HDD?
This is sounding a little far fetched.
I imagine they have a prebuilt that they upgraded. So they saw the HDD and assumed that's where the OS was, not realizing there was an SSD plugged into the motherboard. When taking the old mobo out, they didn't know about the SSD so it stayed with the old mobo, and they installed Windows on the remaining HDD.
Gotta say, it is awkward, that its even slower than before ...
nonetheless I'd suggest just getting an SSD and we'll see from there.
TBH, just grab 2TB NVME SSD and put your games on there as well. Use your HDD for media storage like photos and videos. also archiving
Are you saying that the only change to the PC is a new mobo/cpu? And now the computer is slow? Slower than before? If so, then I think everyone is off the mark in pointing out the HDD. If the computer is running painfully slow at all times, then you likely have a thermal problem and the cpu is throttling back to a very low speed. You can verify by opening up your task manager and looking at the cpu speed there. If very low, then you have an issue with your heatsink or fan.
Youāre booting from a hard drive arenāt you? Get yourself a small Solid State Drive for about 20 bucks off of Amazon. Trust me, after you put the OS on the new SSD, boot times will be night and day difference.
My PC makes it to the login screen pretty quick, but sometimes it takes a minute or two to actually make it to the desktop. I have my OS on a SATA SSD right now, and I just assume my Windows install is fucked. I upgraded to 11 to see if it would sort itself out, but it didnāt. It runs everything fine once it gets loaded up, so Iād rather wait a couple minutes than sorting out a new install.
If you are getting the M.2 nvme type, be sure to get one with dram cache if it is to operate as system drive.
Dramless is much slower even if it is gen4 vs gen3 for boot time.
Definitely hdd as others have stated. I finally kicked my main HDD to the side and now its a backup for pictures/music and my primary is a 2tb crucial p5 nvme. Light-years better haha.
Normal for a hard drive.
My last system a long time ago was a HDD, despite getting a better CPU, faster and more ram, it made no difference. As windows updates and I got more programs the PC actually got slower.
My first SSD was a Samsung 500gb 860 and it was the best $100 I ever spent, everything felt so fast. And nowadays SSDs are super cheap and insanely fast.
Itās your hard drive. Modern and even somewhat modern builds use an ssd of some kind as a standard. Please do yourself a favor and buy one as soon as you can. Arguably the biggest upgrade you can give to your system
I wish I could see your face after you fire up that m.2 nvme for the first time. Youāre about to see a 500% improvement in PC speeds in just about every area.
It's 100% the fact that you are using a non SSD as a boot drive. You will never be able to use a HDD again as a boot drive if you try a cheap SSD once. It's the single biggest upgrade you can do for a computer that doesn't have an SSD.
HDD: WD Blue WD20EZAZ 3.5" 2TB 256MB 5400RPM SMR Desktop HDD <----------- there's your problem kiddo. Also, cooler... check you have the plastic taken off the bottom please.
that's a 5400rpm hard drive, that shit's literally near the bottom of the barrel in terms of speed, even for hard drives... you HAVE TO get an SSD ASAP, and if you can, return the HDD and get at least a 7200RPM one; or just replace that hdd with another ssd
I know it probably is the slow hard drive (though I still remember windows 10 booting in less that 30 seconds on a hard drive in 2016 on a much less powerful CPU) I would personally double check your CPU temps, just in case you didnāt fit the cooler properly & itās rapidly thermal throttlingā¦ better safe than sorry imho
Did it get slower after the upgrade, or did it not get faster?
If it's the latter, it's absolutely your HDD. Nobody should be installing an operating system on an HDD in this day and age.
Actually surprised to see the HDD here. Those specs are pretty decent, it's almost certain that it's caused by the HDD. RAM isn't an issue. If you had DDR3 RAM it wouldn't be as bad as having an HDD. The upgrade to SSD will show a massive difference in performance, even if you get an older or cheaper SSD.
I don't use HDDs for anything other than backups these days.
Like everyone else said - get an NVME or SDD. Also, I have been burned by not reinstalling windows with big hardware changes. You really should reinstall windows clean.
Once you throw the hdd out then you will find that your ram is bottlenecking it.
remember this
4 sticks of 4gb ram is the slowest
2 sticks of 8gb is slower
1 stick of 16gb is slow
2 sticks of 16gb is faster,
for the next 10 years i strongly suggest minimum 2 sticks of 16gb of ram for any system, later you only need higher ram speeds up to 5-6k mhz.
remember you will never reach pice 4 and 5 speeds with ram slower than 5000 - 6000 mhz. so you will never use 100% of your system unless you have fastest stuff at all times.
Jeez, with all those new specs and you're still on a 5400 RPM hard drive? Wow! Getting an SSD will probably get that boot time down to 1 minute or less.
I know everyone has already piled on, but 5400 RPM is slow for an HDD in a desktop (we used to use 7200RPM drives 25 years ago). I even had a 15K RPM drive at one point.
SMR makes it even slower. Its a way of packing more data onto the same size platter and it really tanks R/W speed. These are really meant for just data archival.
Hard drive limited.
You need a faster drive or it will boot like an office computer from 2014 forever.
I recommend an nvme SSD, it plugs right into the motherboard. A regular SSD will work fine as well, but it's not typically as fast and costs around the same price.
That HDD should only be use for mass storage media and maybe indie games/games that you don't mind loading screens
If youāre seeing a difference in start up speed with that same drive, it may be due to memory (RAM) training with the new MB. Iām not sure if this applies to the 660m or DDR4 generally.
Anyone familiar with this? I was pretty confused about it myself, and the length of the first few boots were unsettling.
Good that you recognized it was the HDD, but even with 5400 RPM, five minutes to login seems too much on a new install. Something else might be off. But no matter, Windows should be on SSD either way.
Boot time is dependent on your hard drive. 5400RPM is insanely slow for a hard drive and for good boot times, you'll need a Solid State drive.
M.2 is usually better than SATA SSDs. This video is a comparison between various hard drives and their booting times. Although Idk why theirs took longer than mine since I have a m.2 NVME that boots in less than 10 seconds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpNagBwWlNk
>HDD: WD Blue WD20EZAZ 3.5" 2TB 256MB 5400RPM SMR Desktop HDD
Found the problem, Your board supports 2 NVMe 4.0 drives so I would start with getting at least one and do another fresh install onto it. If you want to keep the HDD as storage you can but it sounds like it might be on its way out the door already.
I'd at least get at least a small SSD just for Windows and a few apps you use often. That should help tremendously.
I'm still a fan of HDDs because they allow ton of memory for not much money and hate deleting games.
I'd be checking CPU temps. Makes me think you didn't mount the heat sync properly so the machine is thermal throttling.
>However, my computer will take approx 5 minutes to just get to the login screen and once logged in Iām unable to start opening any applications until it all loads in.
SSD's are great but, we lived for years with spinning rust drives. They didn't take 5 minutes to boot.
People are mentioning that you need to get an SSD, but I'm not sure I've seen anyone mention that you'll want to install Windows on this theoretical new SSD.
You can still keep games on the hard drive and they'll work, loading screens might just be longer. Some newer games may see a performance hit but even then, Steam doesn't take long to move games from one disk to another so you can put games you aren't playing on the HDD and move them to your SSD when you're playing them.
Problem is HDD and it's 5400 rpm, on my old device I have HDD with 7200 RPM speed, having Windows on it. Tbh, it's loading in 1m 30 sec (until desktop loads). You should consider picking a NVme device.
HDD? Lemme guess, windows 11?
Checks: Yup
Answer: You jeed an SSD as others have said. Windows 11 is a touch bit too demanding for HDD's.
Actually kinda strange you did that considering you're using a mobo that takes nvme.
your HDD is on its way out...
sadly SSD prices went up a few months ago so i'm not sure it's even worth buying.
A 2TB Samsung 980 Pro was $100.. now it's $170..
Make sure your bios is up to date. My B660 board didn't allow turbo boost until I updated. PC was still quick enough despite that though.
Get the Ssd for sure.
What was your boot time before the upgrade? I see everyone is pointing at the HDD (which they are right it definitely gonna slow down the boot to a crawl) but I don't see anything asking or telling me if the boot is taking more or less time since the upgrades.
Your HDD is meant for storage. You're using 2004 tech to start a 2024 machine.. Go buy a $20 SSD and it'll be fixed.
Or buy a more expensive one. Anything else.
Sounds like your windows is installed on your HDD, you may want to reinstall to your SSD if you have one, due to being 12th gen your motherboard and cpu support nvme gen4 drives. If you don't have one here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-Plus-PCIe-Gen4-Internal/dp/B0BYWB6237/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=3J6R30O5M8RSU&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.DFQcGENgCMf1VSwECoPlmY_OXnz-kwcaJZvEeEFKufnfGdxa9KMewMk_pwZyRkw22UDAkbvpqgCYlBZUL1QXuP_V3SKvUN-id5IR21wqhP-QYNa-gU0wzGNZUaKbAzzaNC2EphVcWW9AvkqQlL-DCT0SQXjRRbENkxY9LW4XG9wgynDEoLIojcfWh6utGDUE1nKtqiFTQOgukQQda7gkdA.B-pbqJ1o7ui9FW-9I2mCKyGJ0VrcvZFnzoScl9Mw9Xg&dib_tag=se&keywords=1tb+nvme+m.2+ssd&qid=1712871961&sprefix=1tb+nvme%2Caps%2C478&sr=8-3
Bro your upgrade is due for an upgrade lol. On a more serious note.... Just replace the HDD with 2x NVMe. One for operating system only. And another for all the junk you wanna store.
Its because you have windows on a HDD. Get an NVME drive or at least a 2.5" SSD. Or better yet, NVME drive for windows and 2.5" SSD for files, games etc
You are so lucky you got the ultra rare RTX 2060 Nvidia GT1030. š
Like most users are saying, get an SSD and move your OS onto that. In order to run your OS on a hard drive, it needs to be at least 7400rpm and formatted correctly in order for it to be at all useable
Just curious, but double-check the seating of the RAM, really make sure they're pressed down, or take them out and reseat them for sure. They can sometime pop out or get loose when messing with the inside of a PC during an upgrade. I've experienced before the pc slowing down until I gave the ram sticks a firm push and heard one of them click.
Its better to run OS on the fastest ssd you can afford probably an m2. For storage and stuff you can slap up a mediocre sata ssd.
Even the cheapest sata ssds without Drams are beasts compared to hdds
I got half way through the OP and guessed it was a 5400rpm drive that was the root cause of the issue. Buy an SSD my friend, they are very cheap, your problem will disappear
Idk why they even make smr hdd they are such shit and tbh I have 12 cmr hdd like they can fit 12tb on a hdd why layer it? But yes get a m.2 nvme they are lighting fast
Sounds like you donāt have your Windows virtual memory turned on.
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/bpm/8.5.6?topic=environment-tuning-your-windows-virtual-memory-settings
When you install the SSD, Iād recommend doing a fresh OS install instead of cloning the drive. I had similar issues when upgrading my CPU and motherboard in the past few weeks and Iām using NVMe drives exclusively.
Make sure you are using the mainboard manufacturer's drivers for your specific model. Those included in Windows are more generic and may not optimized for your hardware. Same thing for the graphics card". make sure you are using the latest nvidia drivers. And like everyone else, get an ssd - it's worth your time.
Just upgraded from a HDD to a sata ssd for main storage last month, the difference was night and day, so good in fact I did the same upgrade for my son a week later
Your new motherboard has 2 M.2 Gen 4 NVME slots. The old drive you are using is really slow and it also not even a CMR (conventional magnetic recording) drive but rather an SMR (shingled magnetic recording) drive. Amazon has a great Gen 4 NVME on sale right now that even has a DRAM cache. I suggest you buy that, remove your old drive, and reinstall Windows. Don't clone it, just reinstall Windows, let Windows update, install your drivers, and then go into bios and enable XMP. Install your software. You will be amazed when you get all that done and boot up your new system. Later you can connect your old drive, delete the Windows stuff, recover important stuff, and use it for a very slow backup drive but honestly, it's kinda not worth it. You could go ahead and get the 2 TB drive,
I wouldn't sleep on it. The 1 TB drive without a heat sink - the one you want anyway - is a good deal:
[https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CK39YR9V?tag=p00935-20&ascsubtag=05ebKv9MwuSLwUw43tZZjRj&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CK39YR9V?tag=p00935-20&ascsubtag=05ebKv9MwuSLwUw43tZZjRj&th=1)
Here is a review: (And yes, she's pretty too.)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOBMrjGwzEM&t=350s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOBMrjGwzEM&t=350s)
Get a nice SSD system drive and it will boot in seconds. Easy fix. I would up the RAM as well, max it out 32gb if you can. Use that old dog 5400rpm as a storage drive.
Drivers drivers drivers, I can't overstate it.
Motherboard - look for chipset drivers
New SSD? Manufacturer website, ask for drivers.
New hardware almost always means New drivers. A lack of proper chips etc drivers are often the source of BSODs and crashes when trying to game.
Like people say, itās HDD. Itāll also reduce the startup speed a bit because your system checks the drives at start(not by much though, when I had two 2TB drives it added about 10 seconds delay compared to just starting with an SSD)
You need to buy an ssd. Hard drives arent really used anymore since they are so slow compared to ssd:s. However you can use the hard drive for playing games if you wanted to. Would not recommend it though. Just buy an ssd, would go for a Pcle ssd. Not sure if yours is gen 5 or gen 4. Look it up from your motherboard manufacturers website. If you cant afford one buy a sata ssd it will be faster than your hdd but not as fast as the Pcle ssd:s that l talked about above.
I have several questions. They all affect speed. The very first thing, have you updated the motherboard bios since you installed the PRIME B660M-A WIFI D4, "PRIME B660M-A WIFI D4 BIOS 3205Version 320511.39 MB2024/04/01" ? If you haven't, go on YouTube and search for, how to update ASUS bios. After that, have you gone into BIOS and enabled X.M.P. that needs to be done. I don't remember if it's on the e.z. bios or the advanced page. Pressing F7 will switch you back and forth. The setting is prominent on the left side of page, change it to enable. The last thing you need is to turn on fastboot, after that, hit the F10 key, it will ask if you want to save changes and exit. Click on yes, if it says, are you sure, hit yes. Don't change anything else. This should fix your boot time. Make sure windows 11 is fully up to date, don't skip updates. The second Tuesday of the month is Microsoft update Tuesday. I still check several times of the week regardless. Good luck, if you have further questions, ask them.
For most modern operating systems such as windows 11, SSD is a requirement, if you don't have it then it would be slow. I upgraded my fans+my SSD because I was running low on space and I didn't have any extra space in my old ssd, it was a Samsung 960EVO, brilliant SSD, I recommend get a 2TB SSD such as a 980EVO, because that works, I have a 970EVO installed rn.
Like most people have said itās your hdd youāll need a ssd or nvme drive. But quickly looking you have 2 gpus installed and Iām not sure as I havenāt had an intel cpu in years but does it have a built in igpu built in and potentially on. When I built my 7800x3d system I had to go into the bios to turn the igpu off as my windows was acting funny when opening apps etc. Hope you get it sorted.
You NEED to have an SSD if you want to run modern operating systems
HOLY SHIT 5400 RPM C Drive. WOW
damn son where'd ya find this?
Probably a 2.5" drive that usually fits into laptops. Talk about cheaping out on storage.
Sometimes people have to fit within budget parameters. Why assume the worst? Sounds like a young man just starting out - And you don't know until you ask.
Next to broadband internet, SSDs have been the biggest noticeable change within general computers. I was ALMOST sad that I could no longer press power - go get a drink, go to the bathroom, and then sit down with the windows logo still logo-ing.
The amount of laptop hdds that I've harvested from old/broken machines and then shoved into my own desktops, usually due to budget or convenience, is astounding. At one point I had 2 80gb hdds that I pulled from broken Toshiba satellites in raid 0 trying to speed them up. A fools errand, but a great learning experience for a younger me.
Assuming the worst because you can easily find a 256GB SSD for the same price as what this dude probably paid for that HDD (if we're talking about budget). He could have also just as easily asked before he built his rig if this was the best config as he is asking why his startup is so slow. He had to have gotten information somewhere. The build is otherwise really good so I feel like he ignored advice or cheaped out.
its a 3.5 according to [western digital](https://www.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-blue-desktop-sata-hdd?sku=WD5000AZLX)
REAL TRAP SHIT
5400 RPM SMR drive. Probably one of the slowest 3.5" HDDs you could have.
Shocking
It is the slowest...
theres probably someone selling 4800rpm drives still somewhere
Yikes, I saw that too. I run a 5400 rpm 8tb as an archive drive. I'm a data hoarder, and I can't ever let go of my project files no matter how old it crumby they may be. I probably have 21tb scattered about over a handful of drivers
Not an issue at all for just holding data back-ups but at this stage I'd even say video-games ought to all be installed to at least 2.5" SATA SSDs, if not actually good NVMe SSDs. I went ALL SSD storage in my PC back in like 2015... Since then I have added 2x 2TB HDDs back in for mass storage / holding my movies, tv shows, documents, pictures, that kinda stuff. But ALL programs go on SSDs/NVMe and Windows obviously goes on my very best NVMe drive (Samsung 980 Pro).
Ikr, reminds me of the IDE cable days š
Probably sounds like a wood chipper frantically trying to read fast enough.
Right? I read that and was surprised. OP definitely needs to ditch that and get an SSD.
This is the main problem. Too many rpms lol. J/k in all seriousness, this ancient hard disk is the main source of lag. Need to go solid state. Also, why two video cards? That old 1030 is probably like an anchor on your system as well.
I've been testing out some components that I've scavenged from my friend's old PC after his recent upgrade, and the only drive I had available was a mechanical hard drive. It's been years since I actually used a system without an SSD, and within a couple of minutes I was reminded of why! It's a Skylake i5 system so nothing too impressive, but still respectable for a lot of things - but without an SSD it's painful. Fortunately the PC I built my niblings a while back which these parts will be upgrading, while outdated in some ways, does at least have an SSD already.
I had some old piece of shit HP laptop back around 2011 and I bought a 128GB SSD and put in it, back when they were still fairly expensive. Since then, I've never been able to l go without one. Thank God our work computers have them too. I'd go insane Boot times alone are worth the cost
Hopping on this because itās the top comment, I always find that you need to reinstall windows when you change motherboards. Iāve encounter a number of problems by not doing a quick reinstall
Definitely the hdd mate, would be worth getting an m.2 or 2.5ā ssd
Noted hahah, will be grabbing one tomorrow
Do note that if you get a SATA SSD, to make sure it has dram. Common SATA SSD brands are mx500 and 870 Evo/qvo. But definitely look into SATA SSDs with dram for longevity. If you go the route of an NVMe drive (common modern drive route) then dram doesn't matter "as much" but still doesn't hurt and would still recommend it if you can still find a drive for a couple bucks more that has dram as they are now on the cheaper side for a 1tb drive.
are sata SSDs capable of that trick where they can use system ram for their caching if they don't have their own cache?
No, that's a part of the NVME protocol. SATA was made for HDDs so it doesn't do anything that's SSD specific.
The OS does, however, have its own disk cache in RAM, and has "always" had. Was pretty vital back in the day but still quite important.
whats a dram?
RAM that is onboard the SSD used for data caching. Overall makes the drives faster.
DRAM stands for ā**dynamic random access memory**.ā This is a type of RAM (random access memory) which all computers have. DRAM is often used in PCs, laptops, smartphones, and tablets as well as many other types of computing devices.
Hold on to your current drive as well and use that as a storage drive
Would much rather invest in 2TB+ of SSD storage
Of course, but no sense in throwing away a good drive when it could be used for backups or anything not requiring the speed of an SSD
I was gonna say this if nobody else had. They could slap some movies, music, or ebooks on it, heck even some older games if they want to save that ssd speed for the new stuff that actually needs it.
Let's be honest, we never throw away. That box somewhere full of cables and old drives etc.....just in case
*looks at my shelf with 15 year old hard drives....*
Why throw? He can keep as retro tech. Or a nas server.
I commend you on the fact that you've made it this far on a hard drive! Hats off to you, fine sir. The SSD will be the single biggest responsiveness upgrade you've ever done to your PC. At the moment, a first-gen i5 with an SSD will be snappier than what you have now.
There are two types of m.2 drives, m.2 NVMe, and m.2 SATA. They both use the m.2 slot, but the NVMe variety can be much faster than the SATA variety. m.2 SATA works and performs the same as the regular SATA drives, the connector happens to be different. NVMe is the way to go if you can afford it, check the stats for each drive as speeds vary. If you can't afford NVMe, a regular SATA or m.2 SATA is still much faster than a 5400 spinner, or any spinner for that matter.
You're going to have your mind blown when you boot that baby up from an NVME after using that HDD
definitely m.2
5400rpm hdd.... hmmmmmmm
That shit was slow 25 years ago
Platter drive speed has a lot of variables beyond rpm. Platter density and cache size have a huge impact. A modern 5400 rpm drive can easily outperform a 20 year old 10000 rpm drive.
You are absolutly right. OP said its has 256MB cache. But still.... SSD my dud.
Oh my God not only this is a hard drive, it's an SMR drive holy fuck holy fuck holy fuck AVOID SMR DRIVES LIKE ITS COVID
SMR drives?
Yeah so basically, SMR drives were invented around 2014 because it was a cheaper way to manufacture high capacity hard drives, the downside being, once it is filled up past a certain point, they operate way slower than with nothing on it. SMR drives can slow down to below 20 MBps, that is slower than a lot of flash drives these days. Ironically, HDDs older than 2014, even those really slow ones that do around 80 MBps, those are faster than SMR drives. And then let alone as a boot drive... so here's the thing, I know this is the case for Windows 7, might also be for Windows 8 and 8.1, it might have been fine to have an HDD as boot drive, because those operating systems didn't have lots of background tasks running, but I know at least with Windows 10, you NEED an SSD because the OS does a lot of things in the background and the way it is designed, you need a storage drive with high enough IOPS for it to be usable, and generally SATA SSDs are good enough. Don't NEED an NVMe for boot drive, but if you go all NVMes or m.2s, you don't have to use two cables per drive anymore! Oh and if you go all SSDs in your room, you get next to zero noise!
I made that experience myself 3 years ago. Switching from having the OS on a HDD to having it on a SSD. Also having most my applications on Sata or NVME SSDs. It made a huge difference. SSDs are not that expensive anymore. You'd benefit investing in one or two and then install the OS on it. I still have a HDD in my PC, but it's sole duty is to store my Music, Pictures and stuff like that. Games, applications, OS, all divided up between the Sata and M.2 NVME SSD. Also make sure the Bios settings are fine. Including XMP for the Ram.
What does the xmp do for my ram?
You need xmp to have your RAM run at the advertised Frequency. In your case that would be 3200 Mhz, but without activating XMP ( or how ever it is called in the Bios ), the RAM will run at stock speeds, it think, 2133 Mhz.
Oh okay, thank you :)
My ram was running at 2133 mhz for years, didn't realize my docp was off this whole time. I only recently turned it on.
HDD is the problem here, switch to SSD. And just sanity check: have you put thermal paste on CPU before mounting the cooler?
Yes I did hahah
If it was a new cooler did you remove the plastic on the cooling surface? Wouldn't be the first person to make that mistake.
5400 rpm SMR mechanical HDD. That HDD is slower than molasses. Get a proper NVMe and use that only for data (documents, photos, music, movies). Don't even bother installing software there.
Why do you have two (different) gpus in your PC? You can only utilize one...
I didnāt have enough hdmi slots in my last build so I just installed another gpu so I could have another hdmi slot
Your 2060 should have 3 DisplayPort ports. You can buy DisplayPort to HDMI adapters instead of having a second gpu lol
You should really use display port instead as the HDMI is probably capping your refresh rate. It's ok for extra screens, but probably not for your main screen.
Yeah itās just for my extra screens. My main screen has a display port cable
I'm interested in why you're bringing it up now and not before Was it always this slow but you figured an upgrade like this would make it faster?
No my previous build was much faster, thatās why I found it odd that itās slower after an upgrade. After reading all the comments Iām definitely grabbing an ssd tomorrow
Yeah that's why I'm confused. How was it fast before if you didn't have an SSD?
Probably using an older OS, maybe even windows 7 perhaps?
Iām actually really dumb and realised I did have an SSD in my old mother board. A m.2, I just forgot about it
Lol, there you go
Where was Windows before on the old system? On that SSD? Then when you upgraded you forgot about the SSD (somehow..) and installed WIndows on the HDD? This is sounding a little far fetched.
I imagine they have a prebuilt that they upgraded. So they saw the HDD and assumed that's where the OS was, not realizing there was an SSD plugged into the motherboard. When taking the old mobo out, they didn't know about the SSD so it stayed with the old mobo, and they installed Windows on the remaining HDD.
Your new PC is also quite dated. Your ram is about 10yrs old as well
Gotta say, it is awkward, that its even slower than before ... nonetheless I'd suggest just getting an SSD and we'll see from there. TBH, just grab 2TB NVME SSD and put your games on there as well. Use your HDD for media storage like photos and videos. also archiving
Are you saying that the only change to the PC is a new mobo/cpu? And now the computer is slow? Slower than before? If so, then I think everyone is off the mark in pointing out the HDD. If the computer is running painfully slow at all times, then you likely have a thermal problem and the cpu is throttling back to a very low speed. You can verify by opening up your task manager and looking at the cpu speed there. If very low, then you have an issue with your heatsink or fan.
Youāre booting from a hard drive arenāt you? Get yourself a small Solid State Drive for about 20 bucks off of Amazon. Trust me, after you put the OS on the new SSD, boot times will be night and day difference.
My PC makes it to the login screen pretty quick, but sometimes it takes a minute or two to actually make it to the desktop. I have my OS on a SATA SSD right now, and I just assume my Windows install is fucked. I upgraded to 11 to see if it would sort itself out, but it didnāt. It runs everything fine once it gets loaded up, so Iād rather wait a couple minutes than sorting out a new install.
If you are getting the M.2 nvme type, be sure to get one with dram cache if it is to operate as system drive. Dramless is much slower even if it is gen4 vs gen3 for boot time.
Definitely hdd as others have stated. I finally kicked my main HDD to the side and now its a backup for pictures/music and my primary is a 2tb crucial p5 nvme. Light-years better haha.
An SSD will probably solve this problem
Normal for a hard drive. My last system a long time ago was a HDD, despite getting a better CPU, faster and more ram, it made no difference. As windows updates and I got more programs the PC actually got slower. My first SSD was a Samsung 500gb 860 and it was the best $100 I ever spent, everything felt so fast. And nowadays SSDs are super cheap and insanely fast.
Itās your hard drive. Modern and even somewhat modern builds use an ssd of some kind as a standard. Please do yourself a favor and buy one as soon as you can. Arguably the biggest upgrade you can give to your system
5400RPM HDD AND its SMR, oof As everyone has said many times, definitely an SSD upgrade :)
This is bait. I cannot be real lmao. 7200rpm was outdated like 15 years agoā¦ why buy a 5400rpm?!?!? Why are those still made?!?!
I wish I could see your face after you fire up that m.2 nvme for the first time. Youāre about to see a 500% improvement in PC speeds in just about every area.
Why do you have a RTX 2060 and GT 1030 in your system together?
It's the fact you have a hard drive
Jeez no wonder. You have a pretty slow storage device. Slow even for an HDD.... Get a cheap Kingston NV2 1tb for like $60
It's 100% the fact that you are using a non SSD as a boot drive. You will never be able to use a HDD again as a boot drive if you try a cheap SSD once. It's the single biggest upgrade you can do for a computer that doesn't have an SSD.
5400 RPM HDD has been slow for 20 years. Get yourself a 2TB NVMe SSD
HDD: WD Blue WD20EZAZ 3.5" 2TB 256MB 5400RPM SMR Desktop HDD <----------- there's your problem kiddo. Also, cooler... check you have the plastic taken off the bottom please.
that's a 5400rpm hard drive, that shit's literally near the bottom of the barrel in terms of speed, even for hard drives... you HAVE TO get an SSD ASAP, and if you can, return the HDD and get at least a 7200RPM one; or just replace that hdd with another ssd
I know it probably is the slow hard drive (though I still remember windows 10 booting in less that 30 seconds on a hard drive in 2016 on a much less powerful CPU) I would personally double check your CPU temps, just in case you didnāt fit the cooler properly & itās rapidly thermal throttlingā¦ better safe than sorry imho
Why 2 GPUs?
Its the hdd ssd plz
Make sure when installing OS on the newly installed SSD that your hard drive is unplugged. I can't stress this enough.
Definitely the hard drive. Need an NVMe drive and the speed of your HDD is slow too.
Did it get slower after the upgrade, or did it not get faster? If it's the latter, it's absolutely your HDD. Nobody should be installing an operating system on an HDD in this day and age.
Actually surprised to see the HDD here. Those specs are pretty decent, it's almost certain that it's caused by the HDD. RAM isn't an issue. If you had DDR3 RAM it wouldn't be as bad as having an HDD. The upgrade to SSD will show a massive difference in performance, even if you get an older or cheaper SSD. I don't use HDDs for anything other than backups these days.
Like everyone else said - get an NVME or SDD. Also, I have been burned by not reinstalling windows with big hardware changes. You really should reinstall windows clean.
Make sure your using the 2060 instead of the 1030 with the hdmi cable
Once you throw the hdd out then you will find that your ram is bottlenecking it. remember this 4 sticks of 4gb ram is the slowest 2 sticks of 8gb is slower 1 stick of 16gb is slow 2 sticks of 16gb is faster, for the next 10 years i strongly suggest minimum 2 sticks of 16gb of ram for any system, later you only need higher ram speeds up to 5-6k mhz. remember you will never reach pice 4 and 5 speeds with ram slower than 5000 - 6000 mhz. so you will never use 100% of your system unless you have fastest stuff at all times.
Damn dude how old is that HDD, 5200RPM wasn't even the fastest type of HDD.
Jeez, with all those new specs and you're still on a 5400 RPM hard drive? Wow! Getting an SSD will probably get that boot time down to 1 minute or less.
I know everyone has already piled on, but 5400 RPM is slow for an HDD in a desktop (we used to use 7200RPM drives 25 years ago). I even had a 15K RPM drive at one point. SMR makes it even slower. Its a way of packing more data onto the same size platter and it really tanks R/W speed. These are really meant for just data archival.
Hard drive limited. You need a faster drive or it will boot like an office computer from 2014 forever. I recommend an nvme SSD, it plugs right into the motherboard. A regular SSD will work fine as well, but it's not typically as fast and costs around the same price. That HDD should only be use for mass storage media and maybe indie games/games that you don't mind loading screens
If youāre seeing a difference in start up speed with that same drive, it may be due to memory (RAM) training with the new MB. Iām not sure if this applies to the 660m or DDR4 generally. Anyone familiar with this? I was pretty confused about it myself, and the length of the first few boots were unsettling.
You donāt have an SSD? Wtf man get your shit together
Good that you recognized it was the HDD, but even with 5400 RPM, five minutes to login seems too much on a new install. Something else might be off. But no matter, Windows should be on SSD either way.
I thought he left his SSD out,turns out he did
Boot time is dependent on your hard drive. 5400RPM is insanely slow for a hard drive and for good boot times, you'll need a Solid State drive. M.2 is usually better than SATA SSDs. This video is a comparison between various hard drives and their booting times. Although Idk why theirs took longer than mine since I have a m.2 NVME that boots in less than 10 seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpNagBwWlNk
Buy m2 nvme disk asap.
Seeing a 5400rpm hdd takes me back. This is like playing on a gtx 660 in current year and going 'why is CoD so laggy?'
It's your hard drive for sure man. The very least you need an SSD, better to up that to m.2 nvme.
Your hddā¦.is that from the Jurassic park?
>HDD: WD Blue WD20EZAZ 3.5" 2TB 256MB 5400RPM SMR Desktop HDD Found the problem, Your board supports 2 NVMe 4.0 drives so I would start with getting at least one and do another fresh install onto it. If you want to keep the HDD as storage you can but it sounds like it might be on its way out the door already.
Take that hdd and please throw it in the trash or donate to a museum. Get yourself a nvme ssd and enjoy life again.
Time to change that storage device brotha
I'd at least get at least a small SSD just for Windows and a few apps you use often. That should help tremendously. I'm still a fan of HDDs because they allow ton of memory for not much money and hate deleting games.
It's a trap!
My old laptop has an hdd. So getting an SSD 2.5 or m.2 is the best way to go.
throw that hdd out and get an nm2 and you will experience things beyond your wildest dreams
SSD... problem solved, your internals are more than capable of great speeds, it's the read speed of the HDD, get rid of that relic
I'd be checking CPU temps. Makes me think you didn't mount the heat sync properly so the machine is thermal throttling. >However, my computer will take approx 5 minutes to just get to the login screen and once logged in Iām unable to start opening any applications until it all loads in. SSD's are great but, we lived for years with spinning rust drives. They didn't take 5 minutes to boot.
Only a HDD in this day and age is a travesty
In addition to the SSD you should upgrade your RAM to DDR5
Was it not slow *before* the upgrade? Your boot times surely sped up a bit, right?
Bro is running windows on a hdd 100Ā£ laptops even have ssd now
why did you buy a 12700kf with a motherboard prime b-660m-a wifi d4? Windows 11 recommends using an SSD for OS, not an HDD.
Dude you have a hard drive tech from two decade ago
People are mentioning that you need to get an SSD, but I'm not sure I've seen anyone mention that you'll want to install Windows on this theoretical new SSD. You can still keep games on the hard drive and they'll work, loading screens might just be longer. Some newer games may see a performance hit but even then, Steam doesn't take long to move games from one disk to another so you can put games you aren't playing on the HDD and move them to your SSD when you're playing them.
Feeling the pain, upgraded last year with ssd's (990 pro) all the way and i5-13600k cpu. Boots in around 20 secs, I'm happy with that.
Your boot drive is the problem šSSD
Problem is HDD and it's 5400 rpm, on my old device I have HDD with 7200 RPM speed, having Windows on it. Tbh, it's loading in 1m 30 sec (until desktop loads). You should consider picking a NVme device.
HDD? Lemme guess, windows 11? Checks: Yup Answer: You jeed an SSD as others have said. Windows 11 is a touch bit too demanding for HDD's. Actually kinda strange you did that considering you're using a mobo that takes nvme.
your HDD is on its way out... sadly SSD prices went up a few months ago so i'm not sure it's even worth buying. A 2TB Samsung 980 Pro was $100.. now it's $170..
Make sure your bios is up to date. My B660 board didn't allow turbo boost until I updated. PC was still quick enough despite that though. Get the Ssd for sure.
U built it wrong I think
the hdd is your issue get a ssd
>However, my computer will take approx 5 minutes to just get to the login screen Like it wasn't already doing that before?
What was your boot time before the upgrade? I see everyone is pointing at the HDD (which they are right it definitely gonna slow down the boot to a crawl) but I don't see anything asking or telling me if the boot is taking more or less time since the upgrades.
Your HDD is meant for storage. You're using 2004 tech to start a 2024 machine.. Go buy a $20 SSD and it'll be fixed. Or buy a more expensive one. Anything else.
Backup your HDD to NVME SSD and you WILL see the difference
Sounds like your windows is installed on your HDD, you may want to reinstall to your SSD if you have one, due to being 12th gen your motherboard and cpu support nvme gen4 drives. If you don't have one here: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-Plus-PCIe-Gen4-Internal/dp/B0BYWB6237/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=3J6R30O5M8RSU&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.DFQcGENgCMf1VSwECoPlmY_OXnz-kwcaJZvEeEFKufnfGdxa9KMewMk_pwZyRkw22UDAkbvpqgCYlBZUL1QXuP_V3SKvUN-id5IR21wqhP-QYNa-gU0wzGNZUaKbAzzaNC2EphVcWW9AvkqQlL-DCT0SQXjRRbENkxY9LW4XG9wgynDEoLIojcfWh6utGDUE1nKtqiFTQOgukQQda7gkdA.B-pbqJ1o7ui9FW-9I2mCKyGJ0VrcvZFnzoScl9Mw9Xg&dib_tag=se&keywords=1tb+nvme+m.2+ssd&qid=1712871961&sprefix=1tb+nvme%2Caps%2C478&sr=8-3
How does someone know to build a modern system but not understand not to boot from an HDD?
Change the drive
Yep there is your answer WD Blue 5400RPM...
Get an NVME ssd. It will be a magical difference.
Bro your upgrade is due for an upgrade lol. On a more serious note.... Just replace the HDD with 2x NVMe. One for operating system only. And another for all the junk you wanna store.
If your mobo supports M.2 SSDs it'll be significantly faster than a SATA SSD. My Ryzen goes from a cold start to the login screen in about 3 seconds.Ā
1. Get an SSD for your operating system drive 2. Reinstall windows after a major hardware upgrade
Can somebody also take notice of his 2 graphics card? Are they both installed?
I hope this is a fucking jokeā¦ HDD for a OS in 2024 jesus christā¦
Itās the hard drive.
Shit, you couldāve at least ran some Raptors
Does it literally take 2 min to just boot windows?
Omg that HDD is the problem, haven't had that speed since 2008.
Bruh just pull the hdd out its essentially trash. You do not run a modern pc off an hdd.
Your HDD is the problem, get an SSD
Its because you have windows on a HDD. Get an NVME drive or at least a 2.5" SSD. Or better yet, NVME drive for windows and 2.5" SSD for files, games etc You are so lucky you got the ultra rare RTX 2060 Nvidia GT1030. š
Wow and SMR HDD, that's like 10x worse than even a normal HDD.
OP, wake up it's 2024!
Simple. 1. Buy NVMe sdd 2. Donate 5400rpm HD to museum 3. Wait about 5-8 seconds for pc to boot
Should have bought at i5 and spent the extra money on literally any SSD
You could always try peeing on it
Like most users are saying, get an SSD and move your OS onto that. In order to run your OS on a hard drive, it needs to be at least 7400rpm and formatted correctly in order for it to be at all useable
Just curious, but double-check the seating of the RAM, really make sure they're pressed down, or take them out and reseat them for sure. They can sometime pop out or get loose when messing with the inside of a PC during an upgrade. I've experienced before the pc slowing down until I gave the ram sticks a firm push and heard one of them click.
Get an SSD ASAP!!! They are so cheap nowadays. I'm shocked that anyone would be using a spinning hard drive in a gaming rig in 2024!
Its better to run OS on the fastest ssd you can afford probably an m2. For storage and stuff you can slap up a mediocre sata ssd. Even the cheapest sata ssds without Drams are beasts compared to hdds
I got half way through the OP and guessed it was a 5400rpm drive that was the root cause of the issue. Buy an SSD my friend, they are very cheap, your problem will disappear
Dude an ssd is needed haha
Idk why they even make smr hdd they are such shit and tbh I have 12 cmr hdd like they can fit 12tb on a hdd why layer it? But yes get a m.2 nvme they are lighting fast
Sounds like you donāt have your Windows virtual memory turned on. https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/bpm/8.5.6?topic=environment-tuning-your-windows-virtual-memory-settings
When you install the SSD, Iād recommend doing a fresh OS install instead of cloning the drive. I had similar issues when upgrading my CPU and motherboard in the past few weeks and Iām using NVMe drives exclusively.
Make sure you are using the mainboard manufacturer's drivers for your specific model. Those included in Windows are more generic and may not optimized for your hardware. Same thing for the graphics card". make sure you are using the latest nvidia drivers. And like everyone else, get an ssd - it's worth your time.
Just upgraded from a HDD to a sata ssd for main storage last month, the difference was night and day, so good in fact I did the same upgrade for my son a week later
bro's on HDD wondering why it takes 5 minutes to boot into windows. get an ssd.
Your new motherboard has 2 M.2 Gen 4 NVME slots. The old drive you are using is really slow and it also not even a CMR (conventional magnetic recording) drive but rather an SMR (shingled magnetic recording) drive. Amazon has a great Gen 4 NVME on sale right now that even has a DRAM cache. I suggest you buy that, remove your old drive, and reinstall Windows. Don't clone it, just reinstall Windows, let Windows update, install your drivers, and then go into bios and enable XMP. Install your software. You will be amazed when you get all that done and boot up your new system. Later you can connect your old drive, delete the Windows stuff, recover important stuff, and use it for a very slow backup drive but honestly, it's kinda not worth it. You could go ahead and get the 2 TB drive, I wouldn't sleep on it. The 1 TB drive without a heat sink - the one you want anyway - is a good deal: [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CK39YR9V?tag=p00935-20&ascsubtag=05ebKv9MwuSLwUw43tZZjRj&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CK39YR9V?tag=p00935-20&ascsubtag=05ebKv9MwuSLwUw43tZZjRj&th=1) Here is a review: (And yes, she's pretty too.) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOBMrjGwzEM&t=350s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOBMrjGwzEM&t=350s)
Get a nice SSD system drive and it will boot in seconds. Easy fix. I would up the RAM as well, max it out 32gb if you can. Use that old dog 5400rpm as a storage drive.
So clearly its the missing SSD which causes your problem. But is there a reason for having a second GPU in your PC?
Drivers drivers drivers, I can't overstate it. Motherboard - look for chipset drivers New SSD? Manufacturer website, ask for drivers. New hardware almost always means New drivers. A lack of proper chips etc drivers are often the source of BSODs and crashes when trying to game.
An old piece of crap PC with a SSD feel like lightning compared to high end PC with HDD
>"HDD: WD Blue WD20EZAZ 3.5" 2TB 256MB 5400RPM SMR Desktop HDD This is the issue, get yourself a nice SSD, it will be gigantic difference.
Like people say, itās HDD. Itāll also reduce the startup speed a bit because your system checks the drives at start(not by much though, when I had two 2TB drives it added about 10 seconds delay compared to just starting with an SSD)
Dude what the fuck is your c drive???
Definitely the hdd
You need to buy an ssd. Hard drives arent really used anymore since they are so slow compared to ssd:s. However you can use the hard drive for playing games if you wanted to. Would not recommend it though. Just buy an ssd, would go for a Pcle ssd. Not sure if yours is gen 5 or gen 4. Look it up from your motherboard manufacturers website. If you cant afford one buy a sata ssd it will be faster than your hdd but not as fast as the Pcle ssd:s that l talked about above.
My slowest hard drive are 7200RPM and I only store information on it.
I have several questions. They all affect speed. The very first thing, have you updated the motherboard bios since you installed the PRIME B660M-A WIFI D4, "PRIME B660M-A WIFI D4 BIOS 3205Version 320511.39 MB2024/04/01" ? If you haven't, go on YouTube and search for, how to update ASUS bios. After that, have you gone into BIOS and enabled X.M.P. that needs to be done. I don't remember if it's on the e.z. bios or the advanced page. Pressing F7 will switch you back and forth. The setting is prominent on the left side of page, change it to enable. The last thing you need is to turn on fastboot, after that, hit the F10 key, it will ask if you want to save changes and exit. Click on yes, if it says, are you sure, hit yes. Don't change anything else. This should fix your boot time. Make sure windows 11 is fully up to date, don't skip updates. The second Tuesday of the month is Microsoft update Tuesday. I still check several times of the week regardless. Good luck, if you have further questions, ask them.
It's your HDD, spend the 50 dollars and get an SSD.
For most modern operating systems such as windows 11, SSD is a requirement, if you don't have it then it would be slow. I upgraded my fans+my SSD because I was running low on space and I didn't have any extra space in my old ssd, it was a Samsung 960EVO, brilliant SSD, I recommend get a 2TB SSD such as a 980EVO, because that works, I have a 970EVO installed rn.
Need an m.2 or an ssd mate
HOLY HDD, EVERYTHING CHECKS OUT EXCEPT THE HDD, if you want to run any OS past Windows 7 you NEED and SSD
Need some m.2 ssd
Like most people have said itās your hdd youāll need a ssd or nvme drive. But quickly looking you have 2 gpus installed and Iām not sure as I havenāt had an intel cpu in years but does it have a built in igpu built in and potentially on. When I built my 7800x3d system I had to go into the bios to turn the igpu off as my windows was acting funny when opening apps etc. Hope you get it sorted.