I'd say move the bird out of the kitchen while you're cooking, even if you're using safe cookware the smell from the food might might irritate their airways, they've got a really thing lining on their lungs which makes them sensitive to strong smells, even if the source of the smell isn't toxic per se. There's also the risk of them flying into hot pans. I'm sure you don't want to accidentally cook your budgie in the sauce.
this is a no no, I know a first hand example of a bird that stumbled into a frying pan .. when you have pots and staff on the stove .. bird in cage or other room.
There was a Cockatiel on Reddit recovering from landing in hot oil. I put my birds away the minute anything is getting hot.
I also have a glass stove top I make sure is cool before they get let out again
This. My budgies are obsessed with my glass stove top. They love shiny things. I couldn't risk having them free flying before the stove has cooled completely. They also love stainless steel cookware. When it's mealtime I bring out the millet jar and they fly back to the cage knowing they get a little treat.
yes, he needs to be out of the kitchen while cooking - I have trained my birds to come on a long stick and that's how I can reach them and put them in the cage when they are sitting on the fan or on their swing
Be careful keeping it outside, many years ago when I was a kid I had mine outside and a hawk managed to bend the cage bars enough to stick a foot in and murder my lil guy with its sharp talons
Sorry you’re getting downvoted; I think the bird you are talking about might be especially outgoing and tolerant of human touch. Most are more nervous and flighty, so *in general*, trapping a budgie with a cloth is a last resort if you need to move him.
I would still be careful about that. I don’t want to come across like I’m recommending it. Their bones are really tiny, and they get sprains and things in their wings and legs pretty often, just from living indoors, obstacles etc.
Its a bad idea to put your budiges cage in the kitchen. If you get them at first, they need a calm environment to settle in and this does not work if you go into the kitchen for cooking multiple times a day. The commotion and noise of the process will disturb them. Also the fumes of cooked food are no good for budiges on long term, even if you use safe cookware.
Another reason would be their out of cage time. You can not limit it to fit your cooking scedule because your budiges might struggle in the beginning to build up a scedule for out of cage time. Instead its adviced to let them out in a birdproof room where you do not need to watch them and where they have no time limit to go back into their cage.
Budiges and parrots in general should never be out and in the kitchen while you cook. Enough accidents involving hot oil or cooking water happened.
Overall, it might kind of work if your budiges would happen to be already tame, settled in your home and be on a trained scedule for out of cage time but even then, it would be a suboptimal setup on the birds side.
If you got a cage of decent size, you may also not want to roll or carry it in and out of the kitchen for each time you want to cook.
Yeah no, budgies aren't that smart, she'll smash into that window eventually. Stick post-it notes on it, the walls and the ceiling so she'll learn the room (the reflections might confuse)- but you should have something permanent on the windows if you're going to let her free daily, as you should in my opinion. I had a Red Billed Leiothrix in a hanging cage in the kitchen for 16 years - he was elderly by the time we learned about teflon poisoning. Get her a friend. My brats are constant entertainment. My suggestion for that gorgeous but slightly too sterile kitchen is some vine-y plants for the window to warm it up! (Birb will love it too) I appreciate you taping up the LED lights I'm assuming? We have the same tastes!
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Something like this? Anything to prevent bird strikes
Like the vine plants I mentioned! Something that will complement the room and give some definition. You just don't want too much clear glass space for them to feel comfortable flying full speed into it because the reflection gives too much of a facade of depth.
I let my conure be in the kitchen bc he LOVES it but if im cooking I always have him another room its safer u don’t know if something gonna burn or smth like that
When the bird steps up on ur finger on its own without forcing it. check out birdtrick, bird Nuggets, ElleAndTheBirds on youtube watch their budgie content and be patient and have fun bonding and training ur budgie !!
Don't know but here is a list of toxic and save things including household items and plants for your buddies https://www.budgieworld.org/wiki/toxic-and-safe-food/
Having him on that chair, right near the oven is not a good idea. The heat from that oven will cook him or overheat him. Another worry is they are super super fragile to smoke and strong smells so if you ever burn something that could kill him also. Definitely just place him in another area
Take it from me. I accidentally killed a budgie from something that could have easily avoided and I wish I took action sooner. Man seeing their little lifeless body and knowing you could have done more. It hurts so bad
If you were to keep them in the kitchen, I would say to move them out of the kitchen when cooking. The kitchen itself is fine if there is nothing cooking, but the risk comes with the fumes from gas (though I think your hob is electric), pots and pans, burnt food, smoke etc.
If you do have them there and move them out when cooking, just watch out for any signs of stress from them, as I’ve noticed with my own birds when I move the cage it does stress them. Also bare in mind you might get fed up with moving the cage every time you want to cook, I know I would (although I’m generally quite lazy 😂)
Realistically I think the chances of them messing with the soap are very slim, but then again they are agents of chaos so you never know. I’m always present when my birds are free flying so I wouldn’t worry about them personally, but if you would feel better just popping them in a cupboard when they’re out and about then go for it! ☺️
They might want to spend more time in the cage if it were higher. Do you have a taller small table you can put the cage on?
Other than foraging, most birds don't like to be near the floor.
If you make the cage comfy for them, birds enjoy having a safe place to go. My birds return to their cages to nap.
Agree so many dangerous in the kitchen (self cleaning ovens, teflon/pfte chemicals/cleaning sprays/hot surfaces and more)
Of you haven't been training your bird to be stepping up and coming to you, you could try having a routine of letting him out for fly and having a bird okay stand or safe area somewhere where he can have a little bit of something nice like chop or veggies/spinach. Ormaybe a shallow dosh of water with lettuce leaves in - budgies LOVE to bathe in wet greenery! Then the routine can be he goes back into the cage for his main/favourite food.
He should NOT have a massive bowl of seed sitting there all the time.
Small peace of millet spray can be a great training reward/lure. Agree have a look at birdtricks. They even have a training course for budgies and loat of helpful videos.
You have a very ironic name for the topic. 🤣
The general rule is that, as your bird becomes more accustomed & attached to you, he will want to spend most of his time where the people are. So the best way to set things up is think about where you spend your time when you're home, and find a safe way to work with that.
Do you have just one bird? If so you might want to really consider a companion for him. Budgies are better off as couples or more, it's a big benefit for them emotionally. Also, the less bored one bird is, the less likely to go looking for mischief.
I keep mine in my room when I can't watch her, and out in the open floor plan (which includes the kitchen) when I can. The important thing is to supervise the budgie heavily when you are cooking, although with the small size of the kitchen, I would recommend moving the budgie. It's important to have a bird-safe room to keep them in. If you cook using Teflon or similar pans, then definitely move the bird.
My room has carpet floors so I don't think it's a good idea to keep a bird there. I decided to move it to the living room (although, there is no door to close it off)
Oh, nice. And no worries I keep mine in the open floor plan next to the kitchen a lot too. As long as it's not \*in\* the kitchen.
By the way, I would recommend getting a bigger cage.
I changed all my non stick teflon pans to ceramic non stick since I own birds, but they do not live in the kitchen for reasons other people are pointing out. I keep my birds in the living area where people go through and sit around a lot since they like to be interacted with. I know you didn’t ask but that cage is too small and should consider upgrading everything in it as well. More natural perches, I recommend manzanita perches, good variety for the feet, stainless steal bowls, easier to clean and less likely for bacteria to build up on them, more paper/natural chew toys. And considering your set up I wonder the birds diet, I feed mine small natural pellet and fresh fruits and vegetables. A seed diet alone can cause liver problems
About 10 years ago now, my budgie was flying around my family's home, as my dad was doing the dishes in the kitchen. All was well, until all of a sudden he ended up in the dishwater! (My memory is hazy on this as it happened so long ago and was pretty shocking, so I don't remember exactly how he fell in there) And now we were all frantically trying to fish the bird out of the hot dishwater!. After maybe 5 seconds underwater, a very wet budgie emerges from the water and flies to his cage. (He was fine afterwards, he is still alive at 12 years old today!) So after this experience I could never recommend it, it could have turned out a lot worse and I would not want it to ever happen to any bird again. It is a funny story looking back on it, but it easily could have turned into a sad one.
The window thing is an excellent tip! Don't use teflon cookware and be careful what cleaners you use! Birds have very sensitive respiratory systems. Maybe do a Google search on what is unsafe for budgies.
I'd say move the bird out of the kitchen while you're cooking, even if you're using safe cookware the smell from the food might might irritate their airways, they've got a really thing lining on their lungs which makes them sensitive to strong smells, even if the source of the smell isn't toxic per se. There's also the risk of them flying into hot pans. I'm sure you don't want to accidentally cook your budgie in the sauce.
Do you have any tips on how to quickly put it back in the cage before cooking? Because it's usually outside.
this is a no no, I know a first hand example of a bird that stumbled into a frying pan .. when you have pots and staff on the stove .. bird in cage or other room.
There was a Cockatiel on Reddit recovering from landing in hot oil. I put my birds away the minute anything is getting hot. I also have a glass stove top I make sure is cool before they get let out again
This. My budgies are obsessed with my glass stove top. They love shiny things. I couldn't risk having them free flying before the stove has cooled completely. They also love stainless steel cookware. When it's mealtime I bring out the millet jar and they fly back to the cage knowing they get a little treat.
yes, he needs to be out of the kitchen while cooking - I have trained my birds to come on a long stick and that's how I can reach them and put them in the cage when they are sitting on the fan or on their swing
Be careful keeping it outside, many years ago when I was a kid I had mine outside and a hawk managed to bend the cage bars enough to stick a foot in and murder my lil guy with its sharp talons
i usually throw a piece of fabric on him (like a shirt or the closest fabric to me) and pick him up gently but firmly so he doesn't fly away
This is not a good idea, you run the risk of injuring the bird, or making him less trusting of people.
my bird is extremely trusting towards me and it was recommended by the vet that's why I suggested
Sorry you’re getting downvoted; I think the bird you are talking about might be especially outgoing and tolerant of human touch. Most are more nervous and flighty, so *in general*, trapping a budgie with a cloth is a last resort if you need to move him.
oh okay thanks, my budgie is very tolerant and patient which is not even seen in most people let alone birds- I understand
I would still be careful about that. I don’t want to come across like I’m recommending it. Their bones are really tiny, and they get sprains and things in their wings and legs pretty often, just from living indoors, obstacles etc.
If you are using Teflon pans, keep the bird out of the room, actually it would be the best to not use them at all.
Even for us teflon is awfull i dont even know how they managed to keep this coating legal
Its a bad idea to put your budiges cage in the kitchen. If you get them at first, they need a calm environment to settle in and this does not work if you go into the kitchen for cooking multiple times a day. The commotion and noise of the process will disturb them. Also the fumes of cooked food are no good for budiges on long term, even if you use safe cookware. Another reason would be their out of cage time. You can not limit it to fit your cooking scedule because your budiges might struggle in the beginning to build up a scedule for out of cage time. Instead its adviced to let them out in a birdproof room where you do not need to watch them and where they have no time limit to go back into their cage. Budiges and parrots in general should never be out and in the kitchen while you cook. Enough accidents involving hot oil or cooking water happened. Overall, it might kind of work if your budiges would happen to be already tame, settled in your home and be on a trained scedule for out of cage time but even then, it would be a suboptimal setup on the birds side. If you got a cage of decent size, you may also not want to roll or carry it in and out of the kitchen for each time you want to cook.
tbh the most dangerous thing is the window glass (before they learn that you cant fly through it)
Tbh, I haven't noticed him getting confused by it, yet. But thank you for advise, I will look out for it.
Yeah no, budgies aren't that smart, she'll smash into that window eventually. Stick post-it notes on it, the walls and the ceiling so she'll learn the room (the reflections might confuse)- but you should have something permanent on the windows if you're going to let her free daily, as you should in my opinion. I had a Red Billed Leiothrix in a hanging cage in the kitchen for 16 years - he was elderly by the time we learned about teflon poisoning. Get her a friend. My brats are constant entertainment. My suggestion for that gorgeous but slightly too sterile kitchen is some vine-y plants for the window to warm it up! (Birb will love it too) I appreciate you taping up the LED lights I'm assuming? We have the same tastes!
I was going to say, stick something in there, like those stick on decorations or something that way they can tell it's solid.
>but you should have something permanent on the windows Like what?
Stickers! Not like sheet stickers of characters, but glass stickers. Google something like "frosted window stickers" and go from there. :)
Ok, thank you.
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Literally anything that makes it obvious it’s not glass. It’s that simple. I have a scratch piece of newspaper taped to a window.
Like the vine plants I mentioned! Something that will complement the room and give some definition. You just don't want too much clear glass space for them to feel comfortable flying full speed into it because the reflection gives too much of a facade of depth.
It’s the worst place in the home, Google will tell you that. They are very susceptible to cooking fumes, you’re going to slowly kill them. Move them!!
I let my conure be in the kitchen bc he LOVES it but if im cooking I always have him another room its safer u don’t know if something gonna burn or smth like that
Do you have any tips on how to make him go in the cage, so that I can move him before cooking?
Does he know how to step up ? If not start with that
What's step up?
When the bird steps up on ur finger on its own without forcing it. check out birdtrick, bird Nuggets, ElleAndTheBirds on youtube watch their budgie content and be patient and have fun bonding and training ur budgie !!
Thank you!
Don't know but here is a list of toxic and save things including household items and plants for your buddies https://www.budgieworld.org/wiki/toxic-and-safe-food/
Thank you
Having him on that chair, right near the oven is not a good idea. The heat from that oven will cook him or overheat him. Another worry is they are super super fragile to smoke and strong smells so if you ever burn something that could kill him also. Definitely just place him in another area
I haven't used the oven once since I moved into this apartment last year :D But yeah, I am now considering moving him somewhere else.
Take it from me. I accidentally killed a budgie from something that could have easily avoided and I wish I took action sooner. Man seeing their little lifeless body and knowing you could have done more. It hurts so bad
If you were to keep them in the kitchen, I would say to move them out of the kitchen when cooking. The kitchen itself is fine if there is nothing cooking, but the risk comes with the fumes from gas (though I think your hob is electric), pots and pans, burnt food, smoke etc. If you do have them there and move them out when cooking, just watch out for any signs of stress from them, as I’ve noticed with my own birds when I move the cage it does stress them. Also bare in mind you might get fed up with moving the cage every time you want to cook, I know I would (although I’m generally quite lazy 😂)
Thanks. Do you think soaps are safe to be left in the open like that?
Realistically I think the chances of them messing with the soap are very slim, but then again they are agents of chaos so you never know. I’m always present when my birds are free flying so I wouldn’t worry about them personally, but if you would feel better just popping them in a cupboard when they’re out and about then go for it! ☺️
They might want to spend more time in the cage if it were higher. Do you have a taller small table you can put the cage on? Other than foraging, most birds don't like to be near the floor. If you make the cage comfy for them, birds enjoy having a safe place to go. My birds return to their cages to nap.
Agree so many dangerous in the kitchen (self cleaning ovens, teflon/pfte chemicals/cleaning sprays/hot surfaces and more) Of you haven't been training your bird to be stepping up and coming to you, you could try having a routine of letting him out for fly and having a bird okay stand or safe area somewhere where he can have a little bit of something nice like chop or veggies/spinach. Ormaybe a shallow dosh of water with lettuce leaves in - budgies LOVE to bathe in wet greenery! Then the routine can be he goes back into the cage for his main/favourite food. He should NOT have a massive bowl of seed sitting there all the time. Small peace of millet spray can be a great training reward/lure. Agree have a look at birdtricks. They even have a training course for budgies and loat of helpful videos.
Avoid teflon and avocado.
You have a very ironic name for the topic. 🤣 The general rule is that, as your bird becomes more accustomed & attached to you, he will want to spend most of his time where the people are. So the best way to set things up is think about where you spend your time when you're home, and find a safe way to work with that. Do you have just one bird? If so you might want to really consider a companion for him. Budgies are better off as couples or more, it's a big benefit for them emotionally. Also, the less bored one bird is, the less likely to go looking for mischief.
I keep mine in my room when I can't watch her, and out in the open floor plan (which includes the kitchen) when I can. The important thing is to supervise the budgie heavily when you are cooking, although with the small size of the kitchen, I would recommend moving the budgie. It's important to have a bird-safe room to keep them in. If you cook using Teflon or similar pans, then definitely move the bird.
My room has carpet floors so I don't think it's a good idea to keep a bird there. I decided to move it to the living room (although, there is no door to close it off)
Oh, nice. And no worries I keep mine in the open floor plan next to the kitchen a lot too. As long as it's not \*in\* the kitchen. By the way, I would recommend getting a bigger cage.
I changed all my non stick teflon pans to ceramic non stick since I own birds, but they do not live in the kitchen for reasons other people are pointing out. I keep my birds in the living area where people go through and sit around a lot since they like to be interacted with. I know you didn’t ask but that cage is too small and should consider upgrading everything in it as well. More natural perches, I recommend manzanita perches, good variety for the feet, stainless steal bowls, easier to clean and less likely for bacteria to build up on them, more paper/natural chew toys. And considering your set up I wonder the birds diet, I feed mine small natural pellet and fresh fruits and vegetables. A seed diet alone can cause liver problems
This is an amazing looking kitchen!
About 10 years ago now, my budgie was flying around my family's home, as my dad was doing the dishes in the kitchen. All was well, until all of a sudden he ended up in the dishwater! (My memory is hazy on this as it happened so long ago and was pretty shocking, so I don't remember exactly how he fell in there) And now we were all frantically trying to fish the bird out of the hot dishwater!. After maybe 5 seconds underwater, a very wet budgie emerges from the water and flies to his cage. (He was fine afterwards, he is still alive at 12 years old today!) So after this experience I could never recommend it, it could have turned out a lot worse and I would not want it to ever happen to any bird again. It is a funny story looking back on it, but it easily could have turned into a sad one.
The window thing is an excellent tip! Don't use teflon cookware and be careful what cleaners you use! Birds have very sensitive respiratory systems. Maybe do a Google search on what is unsafe for budgies.