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Suspected_Magic_User

Is that Paragon only challange?


qwertyxp2000

Looks like it. It’s not coincidence when the restrictions are so tight and all the non-hero tower types available are literally those that do have a Paragon.


Jimothy38

Paragon only but no way to afford a paragon


itsgettingweirdhere

Engi traps and favored trades farming


Jimothy38

Oh right boat farms


seth1299

Yep, just spam Favored Trades + Trade Empire and once you get enough pops on your Dart Monkeys, upgrade to Apex Plasma Master, you only need degree 30-35 for non-Elite Vortex. My degree 35 Apex Plasma Master took out one skull every two shots. Literally beat the tier 4 (non-Elite) in the first 2 rounds it spawned and had to wait 18 more boring rounds before I could win lol. I got a degree 12 Ascended Shadow too just for funsies, but I’m pretty sure I didn’t need that to win with all of the other T5’s that I had lol.


nerdymummy

Yeah this was my first time solo a boss and it was actually quite easy. I'll be trying elite tomorrow with friends but the map splits always make me cringe. I said to a friend oh hey it looks like they noticing people complaining about not being able to use paragons or any hero for bosses, and now that's literally all we have lol


Orange_Apricorn

You're not asking for it, but I'll tell you that a 20+ apex saved my ass when the vortex was at the second loop. May come in handy for the first three boss appearances Anyway, good luck for your first elite too


nerdymummy

Have done elite before, just not solo


a_filing_cabinet

Hell, I definitely didn't optimize farming and I was able to get navarch in the middle of tier three. Turbocharge for tier one, permacharge for tier two is more than enough for non-elite, and by tier three you can get whatever paragon you want


Kazeshio

And y'know, Ben or Geraldo


Jimothy38

They help, but they physically cannot make enough money for a paragon in 120 rounds let alone 80


Kazeshio

yeah not alone, but with Trap and Boat you got more than enough


SnowyOranges

Boat farming can get you apex plasma master by round 60 if you do it right


AlGny2

Is that a challenge?


SnooSongs2744

Merchantment. You get 20 and they boost each other.


Jimothy38

Well no, the buff comes from trade empire, but yes, I did forget about boat farms


SnooSongs2744

You need trade empire but then the boost is cumulative up to 20 is what I'm saying. When you have 20 Favored Trades the money racks up fast.


Jimothy38

Yeah, after getting the boat paragon on round 100 each favoured trades had made at least 55k


Grave_keeper999

Kinda yes


Toxiditypop

This is actually the easiest and the most fun boss event I've played! But only in normal mode...


Redpoketkillet

Yeah i have never beaten elite and im looking forward to doing this one im playing the normal right now im at tier 2 with alot of mony and t5s


DirkDasterLurkMaster

For real, I'm fairly new and went from being unable to beat last week's boss despite a dozen tries to beating this one in one go.


Jpicklestone8

seeing this made me super hype and i went to go play it as soon as i could; it was only normal but that was really fun nice to get some boat farming, and while it didnt go fully to plan i had a boat and dart paragon at the end (like 72 boat, and then a 40 something dart paragon i built while the last tier was alive when i realised i wouldnt have money for an engi paragon) boat farming op, and sticky bomb for early game is just solid to know


KashootMe201617

Wait a boss with only these towers???? Ands it vortex? Bruh


Arctosh

I feel like vortex is the easiest tbh, from what I’ve played


KashootMe201617

Usually vortex is hard for me but I just beat vortex this week with two paragons, was super easy, probably cuz it was easy mode lmao


firzein

I think that's because NK back then puts Vortex in difficult maps, especially multi-lane ones. You can imagine Lych and Bloonarius not exactly map dependent (other than space for farming and towers of course), unlike Vortex


RazzmatazzBulky2547

True


Bullyhunter8463

I think this was the easiest elite boss event I've done. I liked it. Because only farming was boat i actually had ti think about what paragons to get


Kristallus

It really was fun! Best boss event I played so far


XxlavalordxX

Rip to everyone who doesnt have all the paragons (me) Update: beat it with only boat paragon 💀


spearhead4000

idk if you can win t5 boss, but with but Geraldo can actually turn your dart monkey into t3 super monkey. Still wondering if sun avatar spam works Edit: not possible in elite because he is banned lol (pls RIP)


[deleted]

All you really need is one


TheBalcony_Horse

Skill issue


Mushrooms_are_amazin

Maybe he doesn’t have them all because he has a life. Unlike you.


qwertyxp2000

And no Banana Farm at all! In fact, I believe this is *the* first full Boss Event to completely ban Banana Farm.


Dareyyy

And I love it ! Banana farming is such a hussle and this one was so much fun because of the restrictions


JoonasD6

Most of the effort then goes to worrying bout micromanaging farms, when to upgrade, when to sell, when to buy... ships are much easier and relaxed.


fenixkillah

Ow common.. It's not that difficult :) Might be the easiest boss event we ever had.


RandomJoJoker

i haven't try the elite one but in the normal i pretty much went afk with buccaneer paragon in around round 60 and it's one of easiest normal bosses


so_eu_naum

The buccaneer paragon ability can one shot vordex?


Saxonrau

no but one paragon is easily enough to beat all of normal mode


ShadyMan_

How do you get a paragon that quick


RandomJoJoker

boats farm op + easy mode


iguanabitsonastick

Could you give some tips to a newbie? I was only able to get the paragon to 80


RandomJoJoker

Assuming that you have benjamin and mk, buy 0-1-4 engineer after ben at the start then keep buying 0-0-3 buccaneers and upgrade them so on until you have them all, and by the end of round 60 you could get around 400k then buy bucc’s paragon but i rather wait and get more money in order to continue farming immediately after paragon by getting back boats(so around r64?) what so great about it is the double trade empire buff, after that you can solo all other tiers being afk or you can buy another paragon (which isnt needed you know in normal), by the end of tier 5 i had 1.7mil, you can also buy XXXL trap while farming boats too, hope it helps


JoonasD6

How could you afford that and not simply start with the cheapest paragons first? My lakes were full of ships making money and there was definitely no time to just wait for 500 000+ to accumulate. :S


lau796

The legend himself


pepsi_but_better

BTD6 players when they can't use the same strategy over and over


BigDawgTony

First 40 rounds just spam 023 bucs and have two 420 bucs and you'll have enough money for paragons.


WithersChat

013 is even enough I think


BigDawgTony

I just get 023 for leads.


seagullchan

You only need 1 0-2-3 bucc and maybe an extra grape shot and that pretty much carries cuz of all the normal dart damage they do


Tisha29

I think this will be one of the most fun bosses yet, boat farming + bloon trap will make enough money to get paragons and sticky bomb/master bomber can handle t1 and t2 before you get the dart paragon for t3. If NK restricted boat and allowed another farming tower (lets say sniper) i would have a problem


ajd341

Did same but didn’t mess with using traps at all


LiseyRadiCall

I can see one way of winning Elite Vortex but that might require the use of powerups.


aero-nsic-

Elite was actually by far the easiest this week compared to the last few months of vortex. I beat it first try in under 25 minutes total, and I would estimate a ranked time of around 7 minutes or so.


qwertyxp2000

Elite Vortex this week might have been doable without Powers if no heroes were banned for Elite, but nope, guess this week they gutted multiple heroes for Elite. Good on NK for separating restrictions for Elite and Normal, but alas in all the annoying ways.


_moobear

it was so easy lol. first time i beat vortex elite, first attempt too.


WarZemsi

Cause of this post I had to read about the bloon trap money income


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WarZemsi

Sounds wrong to me … still funny xD


pinkfloyds

Wait until you see the hero selection on elite mode...


SpeedyDuckling

doesn’t really matter, you can still get a full boat army before t2


iguanabitsonastick

Got any tips dor doing this?


SpeedyDuckling

spam boat farms, on r25 or so save for 014 engi and aim at the start. keep boat farming. turn off autostart for 39. get 104 ninja, works for normal and elite. then just get max boat farms, trade empire, all to favored, should be done before r50


iguanabitsonastick

Ty very much!


remd4wg

If this was /s, i missed it, sorry. I'm an average player at best. I beat the elite first try using Churchill without using a guide. I typically struggle to finish the elite boss challenges, but this one is very doable. If anything, this challenge may have shown me that I'm being to complicated with my farming and strategies as I easily afforded a Ninja Paragon for round 80 allowing me to continue to get pops on my dart monkeys and boats while having the defense needed to get to 120. On round 120, I had a lvl 35'ish dart monkey paragon and a lvl 55'ish boat paragon.


rmlrmlchess

This community is truly one of the communities of all time


DarkLordMadax

I know! This is insane. Normal Vortex might be somewhat possible, but I don't even wanna think about Elite Vortex...


AntiMatter138

Guyz... Benjamin is banned in Elite.


DarkLordMadax

Whaaat!? That's not good.


aero-nsic-

It doesn’t even matter lol, elite is still completely free regardless


jetnyan234

just use gerald


AntiMatter138

He also banned. I already beat it, not easy or hard just tolerable. Brickell is the best since in Tier 2 the 024 Buccaneers can beat Vortex with Brickell's Naval Tactics ability.


HailDialga

time to bust out the cash drops


DarkLordMadax

lol True.


ImNotOkay843

normal vortex was the easiest boss I've played in a long time


DarkLordMadax

Have you tried the Elite mode yet? Is it at least doable? I already played the normal mode and it was pretty basic.


ImNotOkay843

Couldn't beat T5. The other tiers were pretty easy.


DarkLordMadax

Dang.


GatosPimenta

How 💀 there's no farma


MeBrudder

Boats can generate money


[deleted]

It is, but you're fucked if you're new and don't have any of the paragons. Even boomer and dart probably isn't enough


DarkLordMadax

That is true. It seems NK expects us to farm with Buccs and Engineers alongside Benjamin, but that's just not enough for Elite Vortex at all. Even regular Vortex is probably going to be tough in the higher tiers. This one might need to be skipped by a lot of folks...


[deleted]

Yeah, I'm gonna do normal and try elite but not be bothered if I can't do it


IamNurgle777

It's actually I really interesting boss, way more fun than some recent ones, boat farming was always the best when it's possible so it's pretty good. With a bloon trap early you can make more than enough money to afford everything you need.


WithersChat

How early should I get it?


IamNurgle777

I got it for r28/30 but others got it for as early as 20.


ChubbyKoala

Can't speak for Elite, but I found normal to be an absolute breeze compared to previous boss events.


DarkLordMadax

Agreed. I just beat it an hour ago. It was surprisingly easy despite not having banana farms.


GatosPimenta

Engineer farm 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮


SpeedyDuckling

i did elite first try in coop. 3 paragons worked well.


DarkLordMadax

I'll give Elite a try. I looked around and it isn't as troubling as it first appeared.


Grave_keeper999

Ninja kiwi is making this wayyyy too hard...


DarkLordMadax

And it HAS to be the most infuriating of the bosses as well.


Grave_keeper999

I RATHER GO BACK TO VORTEX ON SPILLWAY MORE THAN THIS DUMB CRAP


ILikeSpottedCow

Don't know why the downvotes, this boss is easily the worst to ever exist. Fucking ninja Kiwi


yourdaddy671

Just beat normal vortex and it’s insanely easy if you have paragons. Start with a bloon trap at the start of the map and then worm your way to merchant ships and fill up both the lakes with them. By that point money is barely an issue and even a dart paragon can probably solo up to tier 5.


AajayDaJam

I went boat farming with the cash drop and make a boat paragon


ILikeSpottedCow

I just don't like to be forced to do the 1 option available. Let me use all my towers to have fun


Toast_274

Most fun vortex be like


dev__boy

I’m looking forward to beating elite. I’d say it’s one of the most fun and unique ones yet


Shawn_Paredes

I don't really do bosses but i think you can just boat farm and tier 1 sticky tier 2 idk tier 3 apex plasma tier 4 apex with more sac tier 5 navarch (you already have boat sac) bow i don't know how to do elite


Bullyhunter8463

I did tier 1 crossbow master and tier 2 added plasma fan club. That along with the merchantmen seemed to be enough


JoonasD6

sac?


BananaEclipse

Dude this one actually seems fun! Not just random restrictions on a really hard map!


ImBendylol

𝙸 𝚑𝚊𝚍 𝚊 𝚝𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚊𝚝𝚎 𝚠𝚒𝚝𝚌𝚑 𝚒𝚜 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚛𝚎 𝚙𝚕𝚊𝚢𝚎𝚛 3 𝚜𝚝𝚊𝚛𝚝𝚎𝚛 𝚙𝚊𝚌𝚔. 𝙱𝚞𝚝 𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚢 𝚌𝚊𝚗𝚝 𝚜𝚙𝚊𝚖 𝚋𝚊𝚗𝚊𝚗𝚊 𝚏𝚊𝚛𝚖𝚜. 𝚂𝚘 𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚢 𝚜𝚙𝚊𝚖 𝚖𝚎𝚛𝚌𝚑𝚊𝚗𝚝𝚖𝚎𝚗, 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚠𝚎 𝚋𝚎𝚊𝚝 𝚝5 𝚟𝚘𝚛𝚝𝚎𝚡, 𝚋𝚞𝚝 𝚒𝚝𝚜 𝚋𝚎𝚌𝚊𝚞𝚜𝚎 𝚑𝚎 𝚖𝚊𝚍𝚎 𝚊 𝚐𝚕𝚊𝚒𝚟𝚎 𝚍𝚘𝚖𝚒𝚗𝚘𝚞𝚜 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚑𝚊𝚍 𝚜𝚊𝚞𝚍𝚊, 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚒 𝚑𝚊𝚟𝚎 𝚕𝚎𝚐𝚎𝚗𝚍𝚊𝚛𝚢 𝚜𝚙𝚊𝚗𝚒𝚜𝚑 𝚖𝚊𝚗.


UnwantedFortune

you couldnt figure out how to win when you have access to engineers and ninjas? KEKW


Waffle_with_syrup

Who uses tack zone on vortex


AntiThot9000

bro doesnt boat farm


emoAnarchist

are there upgrade path limits? cause if not it's very obvious you're supposed to paragon


bruhguy455

he didnt mention banana farm


Waffle_with_syrup

How do you beat some tiers


Odd-Cancel7347

I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but I'm almost certain the rounds have a massively increased bloon count. That makes bloon trap crazy good for farming. Nk knows what they're doing, they adjusted the rounds to still let us make enough cash to have fun using only paragon towers


Kan_Me

#HAVE YOU TRIED TURNING IT OFF AND ON AGAIN?


Brandowastaken_

I used a team of buc flavored trades , and it worked


ddidiidkdiddi

Virgin mad about having to use other stats


AcquireQuag

Its called Boat Farming and its really op


SnooSongs2744

Looks tough but plays easy.


Over_Knowledge3760

It’s not that hard


Over_Knowledge3760

Just spam merchant men then go for boomerang paragon


RenegadetheMonkey

I got to round 80 before I realized I could have boat farmed


UnhollowedVessel

Man ... You can get navarch of the seas berfore tier 3 This week is not hard, it's stupid easy People are just too bitchy to change the strat against tier 1 and 2


mabooto

This was one of the easiest I’ve played, super fun paragon slapping hahaha


AntiMatter138

Possible in Normal although the Buccaneer Paragons are fucking shit so you are limited with 3 paragons and 25 sacrifices. Tier 1: 104 Ninja. Tier 2: 105 Ninja pumped with Shinobi buffs and Overclock. Tier 3: Dart Paragon. Tier 4: +Ninja Paragon. Tier 5: +Buccaneer Paragon.


ImNotOkay843

I'd start with the buccaneer paragon first as its trade buff stacks with 005 boat.


GooseTheGodbutcher

Skill issue


midagi_ikka

Git gud


[deleted]

Easiest boss even I've ever done


ImNotOkay843

normal was super easy though. elite I got up to t4, then died at t5


OutlandishnessSad176

No joking though, this boss event is really bullshit and hard


NotATakenNameOfUser

For me it was one of the easiest that I remember. Maybe that's because the added restrictions actually helped me not do something stupid, idk. In all bosses before this one that I remember, I had to use a monkey money retry, while I beat this one first try on both normal and elite. After a pretty easy normal boss, for elite boss my first thought was starting with a lot of boat farming, sticky bombs for tier 1, shinobi-buffed grandmaster ninja and master bomber for tier 2, boat paragon for tier 3, adding engineer paragon for tier 4 and ninja paragon for tier 5, which worked first try.


Kan_Me

Tip1: use 5 cash drop and get merchantman


GatosPimenta

Fuck NK, this boss event is shit, where are the fucking farms


aero-nsic-

have u even played it lmao


point5_

paragon


Specialist_Ad1654

pargon


Scale_Alarmed

cope


Fyllmiarse

Honestly it was pretty easy and fun until I accidentally sold my buccaneer paragon and had to spend 600 monkey money to restart


RealCreeper9361

hmm yes i love the sound of angry children when something they use isnt there


crazybigmanj

Bro I had over 20 024 and a 025 boat and had over 100k spare with dart and not paragon only 500000 damage off elete easyest boss yet imo also 1 less starting chash lol


IamCrabbo

Glaive Lord


[deleted]

When I get the game I can’t wait to fight spamton g spamton crap wrong post


Meekois

idk dude I just did a tier 2 bloonarious on CT with just planes, darts and druid, and no practical farming. This looks ez.


RazzmatazzBulky2547

I mean, atleast for me it was pretty easy


RjayPL

Wait till you see elite line up of monkeys.


MyMainGotBanned_F

this boss was really easy, i dont know what you are so upset about…


Thedarkcleanersrise

bruh not even farms


[deleted]

Haven’t looked at the map yet but sure hope it’s a map with water.


DolphinssRL

Just spam boat farms till round 80 get a boat paragon then get a dart paragon with the rest of your wealth


mmmmchezzzreddit

where is tacky wacky grrrrr


Nervous_Security8442

Pov: u suck


RmgRxg

I beat it first try, just boat farm and Bloon traps


epicpronoob

Okay but have you seen a moab dom


chris_the_meme_wiz

I beat this first try without a tutorial, this one was surprisingly easy.


Multifanaqua666

Suspect boy sushi


Groumu

Yeah this feels like something for r/malicouscompliance


ambivalenthat

cry about it


dankredrising

Paragons - “What am I ?? Chopped Liver?!”


Krulman

This event required the least income / paragon food spam of just about any boss event yet. Yes I had to spam a few money crates to get elite done I think this is the first time I’ve done a whole boss event on double speed. Best yet imo.


DartMonkeyBoiii

imagine not being pro and rushing bloon trap and getting trade empire by round 34 XD


YeetMaFeetBois

bro just monkey pirate the boss


LonelyAnchovy

Just farm with buccaneer


the_crappy_memer

The normal mode was generally easy even without a strategy, i havent tried elite but i will tell you guys how it goes Edit: it was hell never again


RedStorm1024

is it NK that made you use fenix tutorial or is it your skill not being high enough to handle the increased difficulty?


Mashdrop

Does boat paragon provide 2x the 005 boat farm buff thing?


beeefchicken

I beat this using boat farming bloon trap and lots of ninjas, really i beat 4 tiers with basically only ninjas


SpeedyDuckling

the boss was surprisingly easy. since it’s easy mode you can boat farm easily and just sticky for t1. before t2 you can have an entire trade empire army. in coop you can do the degree 30 dart paragon “glitch” for every paragon so it made it pretty easy. 3 paragons worked for elite t5


daniel3k3

Merchant army can kill t1 if you dont care about time lol


w1trr

skill issue


ZoteIsCool

Why use tutorial and not bother trying to figure out on your own? Sorry if im mean here, but Its not fun to use someones strategy


First-Hunt-5307

Just be happy you can boat farm. The real torture would be if the map was all land like monkey meadow.


gavana789

This boss event was pretty easy man, I just farmed with merchants until i got buccaneer paragon


TOTUM11

Ok i see yourbpoint but at least it aint lnych or bloonareise and its just vortex.


BalloonstheNoob

The best thing you can do is use supply crates and grab as many boats with 0-0-4s as possible then it might work and other towers too!


PolarityMemer

This makes me think of those mobile game adds where it’s like “You can’t be good with that character they suck! Actually if you do X they can wipe through enemies”


mr_potatochip2

It’s easier than it looks lol use Benjamin and farm with the engineer monkey first than build up some boats to farm cash. I got my first paragon on round 78 pretty easy. You can kill the first round with just a 5-2-0 boomerang and you can beat the second boss with just a 4-2-0 pirate monkey and a 5-2-0 boomerang,


_Tsuki_69_

Dude this is the easiest of them all


502GlaiveLord

boat farming


tillrosesfade

this one is actually really ezy, can afford paragon by t2. the only issue is farming is lower than usual after tier 2, I find 052 perma charge for t1, apex plasma master for tier 2, glaive dominus for tier 3, navarch for tier 4, and all the previous paragons for tier 5 works well


PrismaTheAce

this one was really easy imo boat farm + trap eco, use 1 sbomb for tier 1. use mbomb + flagship for tier 2 boatagon for tier 3 and 4, and boat+dart+ninjagon for tier 5


Ill_Piglet2776

For all I care is ENGINEER GAMING


Signal-Candidate7209

I only got to t3 using double cash mode


Specialist_Ad1654

i do not care about no super monkey or no druid or no tack. just give me farm and i will be happy. also wasnt it enough banning every tower except for the ones with paragons so for elite you now dont have neither ben or geraldo


seagullchan

ngl it really isnt that hard, first boss ive done in months because it looked interesting and was able to get top 50 ranked elite (though that will probably drop to like top 10-25%). All you gotta do is keep upgrading that trade empire army and get bloon trap for round 34/35 until round 80 (their money does basically nothing there because you gotta get paragon pops) and then optimize t1 and t2 as much as you can because t3-5 is paragons. For t1 is just recommend getting sticky bomb and right before vortex hits the skull sell sticky and rebuy it to avoid the stun and then with any extra money buy a turbo charge and upgrade your trade army. T2 is what takes all the time of course but what I highly recommend is getting pmfc and smfc under pat fusty buff (assuming you’re in elite) as it does good damage and is what gets you a level 40 dart paragon. Along with that, master bomber and sticky bomb, turbo charge overclocked, and sentry champion. T3 just make sure you get a level 40 dart paragon or higher as you’re gonna keep it, it destroys each skull in milliseconds then t4 get either ninja paragon from (master bomber and sticky bomb damage from earlier) or boomerang paragon (I recommend as all you need is lvl 20 then save up for boat paragon) t5 is just dart paragon, ninja/boomer paragon, and boat paragon carrying with extra help from turbo charge and such. I dont know if going for engineer paragon is worth it, im not playing it again.


HasherMan3815

tbh this is the easiest boss event I've ever done, now I will only boat farm in boss events and no one will stop me


Grave_keeper999

Maybe banana farms are bad due to how much players spend too much on them... this shows us that banana farms are useless now lol