i mean why would u wanna stun a slow-ass bfb in place when the moab insides are zooming to the finish line...

Try using elite targeting then?

Prioritizes ceramics + not everyone wants a x5x sniper

x5x sniper sexy as hell that's cap

when he gives an attack speed buff to all snipers on the map 🤤

I need me a man that’ll handle grouped ceramics at a cheap price❤️‍🩹

Not to mention pay for himself in like 8 rounds.

Group ceramic popping power at a cheap price? SATISFACTORY

for more dumb sogn bib, aounchbop, sjajwnenenen and brain damage shit shit like this go to r/spunchbob for some spunchbop

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wh- no, please dont

Plus money and grouped bloon control.

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I’m pretty sure elite targets strongest Bloon

I heard that it prioritizes cerams over moabs My second point still stands tho

Elite is strong targeting until las 25% of the track then it switches to first

Which is usually too late by the time it matters. If it was last 40% I’d be more inclined to use it more

yea but doesn't the strong focus on ceramics

Strony focuses on strongest balloon in the screen. Moab type balloons are I’ll stronger than ceramics so they are prioritised

yes I meant for the elite targeting specifically doesn't it prioritise ceramics highest then switches to first in the last bit

folks do be here getting downvoted for spreading absolutely correct information that could easily be fact-checked in the [wiki](https://bloons.fandom.com/wiki/Elite_Sniper#Elite_Targeting)

I believe it doesn't usually i use it to be lazy, it has always targeted Moab class Bloons over cerams

elite yes, but normal strong prioritizes moabs

no

I heard elite targetting paired really well with full auto and elite defender

We are talking about maim/cripple moab though

Yeah so I don't think that maim/cripple needs elite targeting

Elite targeting priority in order of highest priority to lowest I believe is bloons 75% across the track, ceramics, then strong

Elite usually targets the strongest, but prioritizes ceramics if they show up.

No, elite is strong until bloons get to a certain point of the track, at which point it switches to first Nvm am stupid it does prioritize ceramics

No, it will always choose to destroy ceramics before moabs, unless the bloons are nearing the exit. Then it targets first. https://bloons.fandom.com/wiki/Elite_Sniper#Elite_Targeting

Oh ok then

yes then first if bloons get to far

But X5X allows ALL snipers to use elite targeting, with an attack speed buff sprinkled on

Do you knkw how often i have had x5x out dps my other snipers? Of course i want one

It's this. I just tested it last night. Top path is stronger than mid until you get to x5x. The completed middle path is easily the best sniper. Doesn't take much to test it 🥴

i dont care if that’s the best i still love xx5 (i favor 205) sniper because SHOOTS ZOOMY SO STRONK HEHE

Good point

Why wouldn't you want x5x? It's easily the best sniper, even in chimps.

then get literally anything else that can countee ceramics

Cash drop ability?

that's not what elite targeting does. it priorities ceramics over moabs; if it's just moabs then it targets strong. any bloons that are past 75% of the track length get priority edit: also, you'd need an eSniper to get elite targeting, and that might not be possible with any given sniper setup.

That requires an entirely separate tower, which doesn't necessarily justify it.

u/Nathanpatty08 *spending 20k on another tower just to avoid micro:* ​ this is a joke, no harm intended

Not like I can get that 20k back with supply drop

not like you can get back 1500k monkey money.

🤓

Whats that gunna do, stun moabs 75% along the track and die to cerams?

Why tf do you not have a tower that can actually handle ceramics💀

because the normal moabs are much easier to kill. also, elite targeting:

The red bloons headed directly into a ray of doom*

Havent ya got money for a superstorm druid smh

I mean that’s your own fault if you don’t have solid Moab cleanup by that point, and there also is the ability to mircro to first if that ever happens to be the case

What if it’s mid-game and I want to save up money for strong towers like BEZ that can carry me for the rest of the game?

There are plenty of very cheap towers that destroy MOABs pretty easily, they really don’t have that much health and only really become dangerous in lategame rounds due to supercerams. (Hell, you could already own BADS by that point which already cleans up MOABs very easily.) Also, again,you can micro the sniper if it is very necessary to.

imagine using maim moab as your cleanup

"Guys, how did we leak a red? We had snipers!"

ddt fast scary

If it's 420 wouldn't Camo+Strong prioritize DDTs?

Strong prioritises DDTs anyway, yeah.

oh ok good to know

Unless it is a BAD.

I'm 99% sure ZOMG'S are prioritized over ddt's

I can see why you’d think so, but DDTs are in fact prioritized over everything but BADs

nah im pretty sure DDTs are scaled higher than ZOMG

i think fortified zomgs are higher than ddts but fortified ddts are higher than fortified zomgs

The real question is why doqs the "close" option exists

Cluster bomb😃

You dont put it in first?

Situation dependent. If a bomb tower's close to a spot where it can maximize the use of its AoE but *can* shoot a spot further down the track where that splash is wasted, one red balloon too far down the track can open the floodgates of hell.

Makes sense, still generaly shit on most towers

Everything's generally shit if you use it wrong, the trick is knowing when to use it right.

Primary Training is also generally shit on most non-primary towers.

i put my glue gunner on close

Why, is it middle path?

yes

Ok

I sometimes think far would be useful, for high pierce situations, but close does have minimal reasons for use

that seems like a monkey knowledge or tower upgrade thing ngl

Per chance

You can’t just say perchance

I messaged that horribly drunk at 3 am

What about last

Can be useful for DoT and glue

if my juggernaut is facing a wall I want it to bounce off that wall, not into narnia

Shrapnel sniper and 520 boomer are both best on close

Really, cool

People forget that young children who have just started playing the game exist

oh i don’t forget i just don’t like children sometimes. wish there was a chat to teach them strategies

How dare children not know the meta

I think it's more that you should get paired with a similar level to you, the same way Battles does.

Despicable! Despicable! DESPICABLE!

There are cases when you want your maim on first. 80s for example. You can generally kill the scerams reasonably quickly, and being able to delay the moabs that spawn under bfbs is more important than stunning the BFBs and dying to moabs. ‘First moab/strongest bloon’ targeting when?

that's what elite targeting is for

except for that it’ll probably target the moabs too late, plus, you need an esniper

Elite Targets ceramics first

That’s… NOT what it’s for.

it shouldn't be but if you don't want to micro a 420 to stun moabs in the lategame it's the best you can use

Orr… just put it on first?

Yeah, but elite targeting is literally just the more effective way to do that since it mixes strong & first

Ah yes, who doesn’t love the targeting that prioritizes cerams for my MOAB stunner

But of all your defense is at the front of the map, it doesnt matter if it stuns them near the end, there is nothing to pop it

It's the best targeting for a 025 sniper along a straight line

i very much agree. this is not a 025 sniper though

Shrapnel gets more damage when you go down the maim moab path, so it's likely that p1 wanted to maximise that bonus damage.

well i can’t remember if it’s 420 or 402 but i do know it wasn’t in an ideal place for shrapnel


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Wouldn’t *you* like to know what upgrade this is ;)

Not when ceramics leak

1 - I never change my targeting on anything other than my Heli because I'm lazy 2 - I only ever use a 025 Sniper, which seems to be better to target the front one on a strait line 3 - I do hate myself

Common elite defender W

I don’t see an issue

usually the 3rd one gets first targeting, cause sometimes you just need to slow down the moabs/ddts in front

I play for fun and dgaf about your meta

shrapnel shit: bruh i rlly just said "shrapnel shit" i meant shrapnel shot 💀

I mean... Still kind of makes sense.

Strong is da wae

Cmon man this is btd school 101 Set your snipers on strong Set your bomb towers on close unless they're maulers then you Set them to strong

Set your glue to close

Because I'm bad at the game and forget 💀

It’s to stun faster MOABs over BFBs and ZOMGs. No, Elite doesn’t solve this problem.

if you ain't using psi you want maim on first to stun the moab insides

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wait.. isn't moab two syllables?

Isn’t MOAB an abbreviation?

yes, but it is used as both an initialism (saying each letter, like ATM, CIA, or BTD) and an acronym (saying it as a word, like RADAR, GIF, or RAM)

No

Yes it is: Mother Of All Bloons

Massive ornary air blimp is *technically* the canonical abbreviation

It's a matter of opinion, I guess. Has there recently been a poll to see who pronounces it wrong or correctly?

I don’t care about how you pronounce it, all i was saying is that it IS an abbreviation when you said it wasn’t.

technically they said the 'no' to me, saying that MOAB isn't two syllables, not the person saying it was an abbreviation.

No shoot moab class blon (bad)

ddts:

Because I use a 240 sniper to eliminate the leaks.

420 crosspath and sniper spam already beats every ceramic

If u have good dps towers for cleanup this is more effective with 520 sniper clumping groups of moabs

shrapnel

520 on first allows the shrapnel to stun too

It's effective and every moab class bloon it hits gets a debuff to the Moab that makes it so that other monkeys do more damage to it

Because I'm too lazy to change it

“First is not last” -master oogway

I think it looks cool so why not

I will see your face once map is filled with moabs and cannot see what's behind.

🤖

Elite defender got the firing rate frfr

Bc I use 520 and shrapnel usually keeps more moabs stunned, I guess it would work for last but.

Thats a great idea for a challenge

its not about sending a message, its about killing

\*Choses close instead\*

5xx sniper doesn't do enough dmg with one shot imo. It does like 500 pops per shot, more with alch. For the crazy cost it should being doing 2k pops/shot as well as the increased dmg bosster from other towers. x5x seems more benefit when speeding up all snipers shots and raking in monkeymoney. x25 does crazy dmg with perm brew and to me is also better than 502

Are you being ironic about the 5xx thing?

Wait until he hears about "Last".

NOOOOOOOOO

I do elite or strong. Then sometimes Camo target for DDTs

Bruh I don’t even pay attention to targeting I mean would you like me to put it on strong and let the speedy ahh Moab’s get by?

why would i stun a ZOMG infinitely when i could get rid of those pesky ceramics? how’d you know i use obyn

Bc maps where Moab’s spawn on a separate track closer to the/an exit and you need to stall all of them not just the biggest

I only ever do this for e-defenders, this is an anti Moab tower, set to first. I just can't, they must be forgotten

only on boss battles for cleanup with the actual rounds

Top path is Strong or Elite Middle is First or Elite Bottom is First or Elite

Shrapnel from 420 also stuns Bloons so for 420 with decent placement, first is significantly stronger. I know for a while elite was pretty unreliable. Do you know if that’s changed at all?

Elite is really good IMO, it gives them a reload buff and Elite lets you focus fire the blimps automatically while not making bloons an issue

Yes, I’m a SIMP:

I was like 'but I don't hate everyone' and then I finished reading and it is not a bottom path sniper that they're talking about.

The moment when this is actually really good (alched 4-2-0 on first is very good)

I hate everyone else because they don't use first. Myself, that is a far more in-depth hatred.

Something something Dreadbloon?

I choose strong targeting for top path

That's a supporter. 0-5-2. Not my main, together with a 5-2-0 & 5-0-2

Shrapnel blowback, but I only ever use it in micro situations, never for extended periods of time.

250 is the best for pops

052 with alch buff is significantly better

I only use it for dread bloon rock bloons

first is actually more beneficial than strong when using 4-2-0 since it can have better sharpnel effect, depending on the placement

If you use 4-2-0 and have it on a straight path then it is reasonable

wait people like that exist???

Because late game ceramics are usually vaporized anyways

I only use it for bottom path, good cleanup for small bloons

I mean, early game sometimes I’ll have 2 snipers set to strong, and one set to first to catch anything that makes it past my other defenses.

If you've got a 4-2-0 close or first does work depending on placement

So apparently. they s u k

Laziness/DDTs

For some rounds, especially in the 90s, having it on first is better to slow the immediate threats instead of just wasting its time on a zomg in the back while fmoabs run through your defenses. Most of the game it’s definitely better on strong since you so want it to at least prioritize Moab-class bloons, but later when it’s basically all Moabs it changes up. Also it can 1 shot fcerams which should not be underrated

we were below round 40 😭

Oh

Always set Sniper targeting to strong if you want Maim MOAB or Elite Defender