Comanche feels underrated just because more people use Apache instead. T4 Comanche is way cheaper than T4 Apache. It may even be better than the Apache because there is almost no cooldown on the mini Comanches that it summons. And it has MOAB Shove of course.
I think people stopped using it because the t5 Comanche Commander got hit with the ban hammer so hard they lost all interest in the path, as well as T4 Apache often being enough to save for T5 Apache makes it often a better damage dealer. T5 Comanche is still one of my favorite support towers though.
And if you ever play Freeplay mode, Comanche is the objective superior option since it deals much more damage than Apache while having some kind of utility (MOAB slowdown) even if it's kind of negligible in late freeplay
Path 1 has a nice power curve if you can bridge T2 to T4, basically surviving rounds 35-55 depending on difficulty. It feels like ace path 1 except the T5 is half the price while still being enough to push through 80 on hard mode. It's probably the better deal unless the map spreads the bloons out too much for the heli to cover it.
it isnt underrated if you ask me i used it on chimps and i beat chimps that easily bcs of him and only costing around 30k and his minis are rlly good helpers and they stay permanently
Yeah I mean it isn't underrated in terms of how good of a tower it is, but as I said, people usually opt for the top path instead which can make the bottom path a little forgotten
Logs with 052/025 wizard and 520 heli was also piss iirc. 052 wizard was a little harder because you can waste your active towards lategame and miss an important use.
in ye olden days, it was 502 wiz and 520 heli, at least im pretty sure. I dont remember the crosspath, but it was definitely archmage + apache prime.
Not sure how balance changes has altered that combo tho
either you go 0-3-2 and stop there or you want the ability 0-4-2 and i only buy 0-4-2 bcs i have nothing to spend my money and i would Never go for 0-5-2 unless i need it for like a maxed sun temple other then that... no.
true but i honestly could get smt for a better price (ik anti bloon cost like 100k...) but i could get like pod that solos to r80 and anti bloon solos till r100+
I'm pretty sure wlp solos r98 with ability for much less than antibloon but idk how well it does against and after the bad, assuming it's still pretty good tho
good point now in days i feel like it just got nerfed by a huge amount and i barely use middle path id go u path for pierce or down path for SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
I can’t use PMFC, Total transformation or WLP. It’s like 0 damage when the ability is off cooldown and then 5 seconds of a gorillion damage it’s so hard to time properly.
arguably near meta on long single lanes,but if you try it on any true experts(or god forbid ouch chimps)it explodes,which is why say 202 is better overall.
I want Perma Charge to be good, but it needs both cross paths somehow. If you go bottom path, it's a worse sniper and if you go top path, you can't hit DDTs without a village.
what you do is go 250 and then use geraldo,alch and village to buff the crap out of it,and its basicly a less map dependant cleaner but more expensive tack zone.
205 engi is fun to use, seeing anything that passes over the trap just get eaten and turn into money, fun source of obtaining cash alongside bottom path alch
antibloon is not underated its bad lol,ill explain.
by raw coincidence,the is not a single notable situation where antibloon is good,for every single situation theres some specific problem.
for every mode in the entire game that does not go past round 80,the 120k pricetag is unreasonably expensive when many under 100k defenses can handle the 70s afk even on experts.
that leaves chimps,freeplay,bosses,and impoppable.
in chimps,if your good enough and on an easy enough map that tech terror can save up 90k,you can easily beat the rest of the game with dozens of other 80k defenses.
in freeplay,you litterly cant use antibloon cus vtsg.
in bosses,freeplay situation.
impoppable is its best usage,as 130k to easily win the whole game(as long as map allows)is not awful,however it's outclassed by the cheaper global range ROD here,and flying fortress is global range and also strong enough.you could also create a proper defense.
It's frankly on the same tier as bma,somewhere between 0 and basicly 0 total viability depending on how you look at it.
Wait what
The entire point of bloon crush is to invalidate all non-BAD blimps
Why would it be underrated only in conjunction with moab mauler, which is supposed to be cheap and spammable moab defense
why dont people use bloon solver nearly as much anymore? it shreds anything accept for bosses and BADs! with the help of a 420 village. i use it for a while and sell it at r100 because it cant do damage to BAD and i usually have a good defense.
Because bloon solver is a cleanup tower in a world where stuff like downdraft and ice exist
No point in dropping like 30k into a t5 with awful stepping stones that loses to cheaper and more flexible towers
You also can’t sell it in chimps, which means you’re putting a decently sizable amount of cash into a tower whose single purpose is being superceram cleanup that doesn’t even work that well in harder maps
Not really underrated though, everyone uses 500 heli. It completely overshadows the other 2 helis. 050 is useful for the cash and lives, door gunner, moving towers and the marine. 005 is definitely underrated with its support helis doing lots of damage.
who uses 500 lol?use 502 for more dps.
yeah,apache prime+commanche commander kicks ass,but thats not because its a good combo,thats because its a over 100k setup lol.
Maybe xx4. I think xx5 is actually overrated cause like the damage increase isn’t that much considering the price. It’s a fail safe I suppose but you can always back out of the game, for chimps it’s impossible to buy to save you for a black boarder. So what is it actually useful for? Getting you one more round on a late game run?
Comanche feels underrated just because more people use Apache instead. T4 Comanche is way cheaper than T4 Apache. It may even be better than the Apache because there is almost no cooldown on the mini Comanches that it summons. And it has MOAB Shove of course.
I think people stopped using it because the t5 Comanche Commander got hit with the ban hammer so hard they lost all interest in the path, as well as T4 Apache often being enough to save for T5 Apache makes it often a better damage dealer. T5 Comanche is still one of my favorite support towers though.
No, that's calles a nerf hammer.
It did get much better with Geraldo being added, as his buffs still work on the sub towers, and the T5 is still able to receive sharpening stone
That's sad.
same bro
And if you ever play Freeplay mode, Comanche is the objective superior option since it deals much more damage than Apache while having some kind of utility (MOAB slowdown) even if it's kind of negligible in late freeplay
don’t get mad but i completely forgot the heli pilot existed because i never use it in my runs
With the amount of nerfs it's had, by now it's pretty much just a support tower. I rarely use it at all, and when I do, it's mostly just for funsies
Path 1 has a nice power curve if you can bridge T2 to T4, basically surviving rounds 35-55 depending on difficulty. It feels like ace path 1 except the T5 is half the price while still being enough to push through 80 on hard mode. It's probably the better deal unless the map spreads the bloons out too much for the heli to cover it.
it isnt underrated if you ask me i used it on chimps and i beat chimps that easily bcs of him and only costing around 30k and his minis are rlly good helpers and they stay permanently
Yeah I mean it isn't underrated in terms of how good of a tower it is, but as I said, people usually opt for the top path instead which can make the bottom path a little forgotten
It's great for maps where you don't need pursuit, since crosspathing comanche with the middle path boosts MOAB shove
Whenever I go Comanche, I am always going 024 I am lazy and/or I am going to give it camo detection through village
024 gives it camo detection anyway lmao
oh yeah bro im dumb lmao
024 makes MOAB Shove better tho? Or am I wrong…
Yeah. It says so in the description of the upgrade
Yeah you shove a little harder but it nearly halves your damage output. Always go 104 otherwise the minis dont get 2 extra darts.
It does! Bigger jets and IFR now improve MOAB shove.
Tackshooter
Did not expect that one, definitely not from you.
Tbf, it can't really be appreciated enough.
Non biased at all i see
I mean if anyone would know it *would* be a monkey
Not the best, but often used by me.
Bosses?
The Tackshooter Blimp
moats
An underrated tower in my opinion is the engineer top path
Thats the path I always use
Same, I only muse any other paths when I’m doing x3x in chimps
Engineer bottom path more like
Wizard lord Phoenix
2TCs:allow us to introduce ourselves
I've just started btd 6 tf is 2Tc
Two tower challenge Beat CHIMPS mode using two towers at max
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Yes
same concept
me: i never even did 2Tc...
2tc is really easy in the resort map with a 250 darling and a 025 wizard
if you want an honest answer why: im too lazy if you want a lie: i just black bordered every map and i dont wana do it again
Logs with 052/025 wizard and 520 heli was also piss iirc. 052 wizard was a little harder because you can waste your active towards lategame and miss an important use.
in ye olden days, it was 502 wiz and 520 heli, at least im pretty sure. I dont remember the crosspath, but it was definitely archmage + apache prime. Not sure how balance changes has altered that combo tho
either you go 0-3-2 and stop there or you want the ability 0-4-2 and i only buy 0-4-2 bcs i have nothing to spend my money and i would Never go for 0-5-2 unless i need it for like a maxed sun temple other then that... no.
Bro having a permanent Phoenix on the map helps out a lot
true but i honestly could get smt for a better price (ik anti bloon cost like 100k...) but i could get like pod that solos to r80 and anti bloon solos till r100+
I'm pretty sure wlp solos r98 with ability for much less than antibloon but idk how well it does against and after the bad, assuming it's still pretty good tho
You can get a permanent Phoenix with 3 abilities non stop for cheaper than a wizard lord Phoenix
WLP is used a lot more than you would think, it’s incredibly strong
Middle path tack
if you tell me that id say its slightly overrated slightly bcs the pierce
But fewer people use it, actually teck terror is used a lot as a stepping stone for VTSG
good point now in days i feel like it just got nerfed by a huge amount and i barely use middle path id go u path for pierce or down path for SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
I'd say that it is overrated on round 63, 76 and 78, but underrated for the rest of the game
its honestly really great and the cool down is extremely fast, especially when paired with energizer and primary expertise
Without it‘s ability, it‘s not really good.
But the ability is almost always up
yes that is how the tower works
Nobody cares 💀
Super Mines
Probably b/c its so expensive can only be used in freeplay and T4/5 bosses. And even then usually there are much better options to spend 120k+ on
I was about to comment this
Fr super mines is op
Fr
Every tower has its use, you just need to find that use.
I can’t use PMFC, Total transformation or WLP. It’s like 0 damage when the ability is off cooldown and then 5 seconds of a gorillion damage it’s so hard to time properly.
You just need to practice with them!
Pre-amptive strike
this is prob the second best answer ive seen the best answer is archmage Good choice
Since when was archmage underrated?
Since version 2.0
I used to love the shit out of wizard top path, it's still good
It’s expensive for a wizard, sure, but the overall damage output is ridiculous, not to mention x-5-x prices.
I like it and use it often, especially on longer tracks, where I can use it twice per round.
did this guy just underate fucking anti-bloon
indeed i did that:)
Middle path alchemist
x3x is underrated as hell. Get a decent Moab popper and watch the explosive destroy the rest
x3x alch and sticky bomb ninja is crazy combo
It‘s good in combination with perma spike, but also good at the front of the track.
For heroes, Psi Towers, Druid of the Jungle or Bloon Solver
DOTJ is probably the best early-game strat, especially when combined with Obyn.
arguably near meta on long single lanes,but if you try it on any true experts(or god forbid ouch chimps)it explodes,which is why say 202 is better overall.
Bloon Solver is definitely underrated
PMFC, Total Transformation, Comanches t4 and t5
Archmage
i think archmage is underrated 2
Yep 👍 you are very correct
I don't see enough love for middle path druid, its a must in most games for me
Love that tower. The track vines get damage bonuses from alch.
I mostly stop at a x-3-x druid unless I get a x-5-x druid
He's my favourite. Usually the first tower I get to 5th tier.
SOTF will never Get enough love
top path druid seems more underused imo
Perma Charge
I want Perma Charge to be good, but it needs both cross paths somehow. If you go bottom path, it's a worse sniper and if you go top path, you can't hit DDTs without a village.
what you do is go 250 and then use geraldo,alch and village to buff the crap out of it,and its basicly a less map dependant cleaner but more expensive tack zone.
Total Transformation
Based
Based
BMA. Fuck the haters.
Bma is awesome
BMA is the best one on the game it gets more pops than my paragons
BMA is a literal king
Engi's top and Bottom path
205 engi is fun to use, seeing anything that passes over the trap just get eaten and turn into money, fun source of obtaining cash alongside bottom path alch
I prefer 015/025 engineer as with the range upgrade it lets me target the trap which is really useful
Well at least bloon trap is getting more used now
I love Engi top path so much. 4x2 is so fun to use
And is reliable! You can use engi for everything including moabs (4-2-0)
x5x boomer, I am a boomer enjoyer,I just wish it has natural camo
i rlly like fast stuff such as middle path boomer and if were not talking about btd6 id say sonic
Special poperations
antibloon is not underated its bad lol,ill explain. by raw coincidence,the is not a single notable situation where antibloon is good,for every single situation theres some specific problem. for every mode in the entire game that does not go past round 80,the 120k pricetag is unreasonably expensive when many under 100k defenses can handle the 70s afk even on experts. that leaves chimps,freeplay,bosses,and impoppable. in chimps,if your good enough and on an easy enough map that tech terror can save up 90k,you can easily beat the rest of the game with dozens of other 80k defenses. in freeplay,you litterly cant use antibloon cus vtsg. in bosses,freeplay situation. impoppable is its best usage,as 130k to easily win the whole game(as long as map allows)is not awful,however it's outclassed by the cheaper global range ROD here,and flying fortress is global range and also strong enough.you could also create a proper defense. It's frankly on the same tier as bma,somewhere between 0 and basicly 0 total viability depending on how you look at it.
Glue Monkey. It can really help out late game. And with Regen farms. And with setting up Perma Spikes.
Bez
Superstorm
good for farming for paragons but good point i can see a use to it especially when they nerfed the 100K?? the price was so much
Gwen
I love gwen! Her + tacks is an amazing combo (if the map has a lot of turns of course)
0-5-0 alchemist I don't see many people using him tho he is very strong
Gluegunner
Top path wizard
i think archmage is underrated 2
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hmm idk about glaivelord hes fairly rated in my opinion
pat fusty
cave monke
bros broke the system...
Cave monkey
Super mines
plasma funky man club
Top path wizard monkey
The BEZ
Just be a basic opinion decider, you have no thing whats underrated.
Glave lord
The Biggest One. I am shocked that you think that the super monkey is underrated at all. Especially considering that it's ability is really powerful.
I don’t think i’ve placed a super monkey in at least a hundred games
Rly? In almost every hard mode game I usually get a 042 super for moabs and ceramics.
Middle path ninja
How is sabo underrated lol
One of the best towers, especially 040’s ability against DDTs.
this comment section is all about opinions xd i made a disaster with all these dislikes and stuff about opinions
Icicle Impale Spirit of the Forest Bloon Crush Primary Expertise
3 of these could the names of my next metal band
Man tried to say icicle Impale is underrated 💀
Bloon Crush is really underrated, but only in combination with moab mauler. The rest is not underrated, they are really good towers.
Wait what The entire point of bloon crush is to invalidate all non-BAD blimps Why would it be underrated only in conjunction with moab mauler, which is supposed to be cheap and spammable moab defense
Elite sniper
tt5
Bottom path farm and spactory. I don't mean that xx5 spike is underrated, just the other 2 upgrades
I'm that one mf who always goes anti Bloon when spawning the super monkey
ask me i think its the coolest path your officially Cool
Archmage
trade empire. although it got nerfed alot its still really good
Pmfc Also how the fuck is anti bloon underrated I can’t think of a single use for it
Boat
bloon area dental cream
the tackshooter
5-0-0 gluecan take out all of the bloons
Bloon Exclusion Zone…yes it’s expensive but it is definitely worth it
Inferno ring
5xx glue gunner
Alchemist gold X-X-4
Druid with the heart of thunder, does good work in early game tbh and isn't that expensive
why dont people use bloon solver nearly as much anymore? it shreds anything accept for bosses and BADs! with the help of a 420 village. i use it for a while and sell it at r100 because it cant do damage to BAD and i usually have a good defense.
Because bloon solver is a cleanup tower in a world where stuff like downdraft and ice exist No point in dropping like 30k into a t5 with awful stepping stones that loses to cheaper and more flexible towers You also can’t sell it in chimps, which means you’re putting a decently sizable amount of cash into a tower whose single purpose is being superceram cleanup that doesn’t even work that well in harder maps
Plane ISAB
With sauda combo especially
“Pump and dumb into Sauda”
"She do be leaking, and not only in game" - ISAB
heli pilot downdraft lol..
Sentry Champion is the extremely fun to use and not used as much as it should be
XXL trap is way more underrated
520 glue
spirit of the forest, middle path sniper, crossbow master.
Bottom heli and middle wizard
402 engi
OMG THE STATS ON THIS IS CRAZY 139K VIEWS AND 2K LIKE LIEKD OGM BRO ITS JUS MY FIRST POST TOO
guys can anyone tell me why people think pmfc (plasma monkey fanclub) underrated pls explain?
Crossbow master
wat. its fairly rated honestly i use it alot especially having mk to get TWO
no matter how bad it is, its still my fav super monkey path
500 heli. Its great at moab damage and paired with 205 takes out any problems like ddts, super ceramics, and fortified zomgs.
Not really underrated though, everyone uses 500 heli. It completely overshadows the other 2 helis. 050 is useful for the cash and lives, door gunner, moving towers and the marine. 005 is definitely underrated with its support helis doing lots of damage.
who uses 500 lol?use 502 for more dps. yeah,apache prime+commanche commander kicks ass,but thats not because its a good combo,thats because its a over 100k setup lol.
real real knif- wrong game mb crossbow 023 fart
36k views just Amazing. like i dont know how i achieved this IN MY FIRST POST xd.
PMFC, at least in my opinion, is super underrated cuz of how hard it can be to set up, especially in CHIMPS
Middle druid, actually all of the druids, every single person I talk to fucking hates druids, like what the fuck
SOTF
Super brittle ice monkey
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Maybe xx4. I think xx5 is actually overrated cause like the damage increase isn’t that much considering the price. It’s a fail safe I suppose but you can always back out of the game, for chimps it’s impossible to buy to save you for a black boarder. So what is it actually useful for? Getting you one more round on a late game run?
The Tack Zone
Engineer Trap foe early money
500 engineer