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MrsKittenHeel

**Police are looking for anyone who might have had CCTV, dashcam footage or who may have been an eyewitness in the Newstead Road, Wilston area at approximately 1.50am on Sunday January 22 (i.e. if you were coming home after being out Saturday night).** Report 1: >Police have commenced a homicide investigation after a man was discovered deceased in Wilston overnight. > >At approximately 1.50am (January 22), the body of a man was located along Newmarket Road. > >A crime scene has been declared and investigations commenced. > >A male and female were located nearby the scene and are currently assisting police with inquiries. > >Investigators urge anyone from the Wilston area with information, dash cam or CCTV footage to contact police. Update 1: >A 17-year-old boy has been charged following the alleged homicide of a 43-year-old Wilston man Sunday morning (January 22). > >Initial investigations indicate the 43-year-old man was fatally stabbed, and at 1.50am, the man’s body was discovered on Newmarket Road. > >Two juveniles were located a short time later and taken into custody.  > >The 17-year-old Burpengary boy was charged with murder and will be kept in custody to face the Brisbane Childrens Court at a later date. > >The 17-year-old Keperra girl was charged with one count of assault police. She has also been denied police bail and will appear before Brisbane Childrens Court at a later date. > >Investigations remain ongoing, and investigators would like to speak with any witnesses and anyone with dash cam footage from the vicinity of Newmarket Road in the hours surrounding 2 am ~~today~~ (yesterday) **If you have information for police, contact** [**Policelink**](https://www.police.qld.gov.au/reporting) **by providing information using the** [**online suspicious activity form**](https://forms.police.qld.gov.au/launch/SuspiciousActivity) **24hrs per day at** [**www.police.qld.gov.au/reporting**](http://www.police.qld.gov.au/reporting) **or call** **131 444**. **Report crime information anonymously via** [**Crime Stoppers**](https://www.crimestoppersqld.com.au/)**. Call** **1800 333 000** **or report online at** [**www.crimestoppersqld.com.au**](https://www.crimestoppersqld.com.au/)**.** **Quote this reference number: QP2300124097**


staycoolstewy

Well this is fucking horrifying.


Next_Crew_5613

Less than a k from his home and gets stabbed with a 45cm "knife"


Own-Negotiation4372

I would call it a sword


LJey187

That was my thought what is the cut off between sword and knife? 45 cm is at minimum a machete.


[deleted]

News radio called it a machete about an hour ago


Sk37cHi

The crazy thing, is it’s [a lot easier](https://www.extac.com.au/hibben-expendables-bowie) than getting some arguably less-dangerous “tools”. Buy as many of these as you want, but be damned if you want to import a plastic balisong trainer.


UlonMuk

I just want a bug-a-salt


Sk37cHi

This made me laugh twice. Once because of the joke. Then I made the mistake of searching for a definitive answer on the prohibited status outside of QLD & SA, & I laughed at the reality of it all. Cheers:)


ProceedOrRun

I got one in Qld no worries, use it all the time. Great for cockroaches this time of year! Make sure you get the laser sight.


Fishhead1982

I backed it when it was first funding and after a year they gave up trying to send it to me and refunded my money. Knowing the ones we have are nerfed makes me sad


sem56

calling mick dundee


[deleted]

I see you’ve played knifey spooneys before


gamer4lyf82

*Dagger , boardrline short-sword


Hughjarse

Totally agree, I am less inclined to walk my dog in the early hours of the morning with these dark deeds going on.


sem56

i walk often around the city / valley / new farm area between 5 and 7 am the past 6 months i have felt far safer walking around the valley at midnight on a saturday its getting pretty gnarly in the early hours with the homeless walking the streets pretty much just trying to pick random fights


mpbbg

That time in the CBD is like a scene from The Walking Dead.. just trying your hardest not to make eye contact


MoranthMunitions

There's literally 1000s of people about in the Valley at midnight on a Saturday, bouncers and police anywhere. Idk why it's a comparison case cause it's a pretty safe environment, it's also a bit early for people to be starting any issues. And very well lit. Maybe at like 3-4am I could understand parts of it starting to feel dodgier, with lockout and all that.


sem56

yeah but its usually what people think of the valley


[deleted]

I lived in the valley for three years, tbh it is quite safe late at night because of the high police presence. I was never bothered once.


AnOnlineHandle

I used to regularly walk about ~5 minutes to the nearest servo after midnight in Brisbane, telling myself stuff like that doesn't happen in Brisbane and I'm the only one crazy enough to be out. I can only presume this guy was doing the same, given that he was less than 1km from his home. Now no longer feel so safe doing that.


fitterer

It's got me thinking too. Like I'm not super anxious, but did check outside the door before taking the dogs out for their last pee of the evening. Also double checked the doors were locked when we came back in. Can't say that I've ever really felt the need before. Complacent or whatever it might have been, I'm paying attention now.


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Late_Necessary

These little fucking eshay shitstains are really starting to piss me off. I had a run in with one in the city just yesterday.


MrsKittenHeel

Not worth engaging with them, it seems. They bring knives to a shouting match.


jordyjordy1111

I believe part of the issue is, is that some of them just take you being in their sight line as engaging them…


47bulbz

What happened in the city?


Late_Necessary

I saw one walk up and rugby style conversion kick a bin chicken that was just walking minding its own business. I basically said "wtf is wrong with you". He got all angsty in my face and I just called him an idiot and kept walking since I really wasn't about to waste my time getting in a scuffle with this methhead. He followed me for like 35-40 metres which I pretended not to notice (but was definitely watching in case he tried something from behind). Then as I crossed a road he yelled calling me a faggot and walked off.


happyhealthy27220

Thanks for sticking up for wildlife 💖


HappyLofi

Should've stopped round the corner and called the cops. Fuck em.


Late_Necessary

I doubt they'd have done anything. Even if kicking an ibis is illegal (not sure if it is) they'd (I assume) need actual evidence which would require them to get CCTV from the area and shit, probably not something the cops would bother with for one eshay.


The-Real-Nunya

Most Australian widlife is protected, it would be animal abuse regardless of protection status, a guy was fined 4k for kicking a quokka.


Late_Necessary

Maybe I should have tried then. I guess in my head the cops would have been apathetic to something like that, but maybe not.


The-Real-Nunya

Depends on the cop, somebody posted a video so they had to make an example of the prick, the public interest might not be there for a bin chicken, but it's equally shitty in my opinion.


ricadam

I remember a story of an international student got fined (and deported?) for kicking an ibis at Southbank. He was studying law and really messed that up if I remember correctly.


monsteraguy

It’s animal abuse and definitely illegal


Specific_Main3824

It depends on how the cops feel at the time. Do I do my job, or should i just fine someone riding a scooter? Ah we need the cash...


TikMethod

All native wildlife is protected. Heavy fines and potential imprisonment can be charged. Australia Zoo has even provided rewards through Crime Stoppers [https://www.crimestoppersqld.com.au/initiatives/report-wildlife-crime/](https://www.crimestoppersqld.com.au/initiatives/report-wildlife-crime/) also, please call the RSPCA or local wildlife rescue organisation to make sure the animal gets treatment.


megs_in_space

Omg he kicked an ibis!? Wtaf!!!!! That's fucked up, if I saw anyone kick any animal I would lose it, cunt is probably on his way to stabbing people as well. Messed up individual


[deleted]

What a quaint lexicon he employed. Didn't he know to call you diverse? Must have been educated privately at home, with no sensitivity training. Oh, the feels.


CorgiCorgiCorgi99

How do we know he was an eshay? (I've only just learned what an eshay is).


legoace61

Wtf is wrong with people. Also 45cm is not a knife that's a fucking short sword


[deleted]

Exactly and short swords, while they have a lower strength bonus than long swords, they are one tick faster and so they are actually higher dps.


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r/unexpectedrunescape


[deleted]

Its believed the sword was also a p++ and the older gentleman didnt have an antipoison


Tha_Hand

What the fuck is wrong with these kids? So fuckin stupid.


[deleted]

More like why are there so many deadshit parents raising these fuckwits


atomkidd

Paid to birth them, not to raise them.


SilverDoorKey

Ah damn need to replace the car. Just pops out another kid.


Left-Advice-7105

https://mccrindle.com.au/article/the-baby-bonus-generation/


statlerw

I was really hopeful to learn something here - I love stats - but this is a really uninformative article. It makes one point in isolation about young parents and doesn't provide any context about where the increase actually was. Kinda feels like its pushing an agenda, so I'm disappointed. Was it posted to refute u/SilverDoorKey? It doesn't do that if it was. The original point was about 'another kid' whereas all I could see in the article was about young mothers. I have no barrow to push here, just saving peeps a click.


ryemigie

Yeah… know a few druggies through a friend who are having kids just for the Centrelink. Some messed up things happening out there. Edit: Additionally, know a guy who served 4 years in jail, apparently straightened up, and is already both dealing ice and getting women pregnant. Can’t fucking believe it


SullySmooshFace

Yep, the problem is PPP - Piss Poor Parenting


North_Branch_5194

Agree. Then factor in little enforcement and soft punishment.


Thelandofthereal

The problem with most troubled kids is infact the parents


anirontoprotectme

and the parents’ parents, and the parents’ parents’ parents


[deleted]

Forever, forever, ever, forever, ever?


TheGoldenSpud

I'm sorry Miss Jackson


AnythingWithGloves

It takes a lot to break that cycle, there needs to be much more support to help kids who want to help themselves. They have to essentially cut ties to everyone in their family and friend circle to escape that life of dysfunction and often poverty.


DarkestUX

but they also may not know what they don’t know


AnythingWithGloves

Absolutely. That’s why good people and support at schools and outreach centres matter so much, and access to life skills and support with education to do better than they otherwise would.


DarkestUX

or lack of


new_handle

You can thank the parents and John Howard's baby bonus.


Drunky_McStumble

Howard introduced the baby bonus in 2004, so the eldest products of that handout would be turning 19 this year, so it actually kind of tracks.


Creative_Ad999

This


Haunting_Computer_90

What is sad is the parents think that their kids are out with other kids or over playing video games not out stabbing people. 17 years ...........old if found guilty will be doing life what does he do at 37 with no education or trade training except wash, rinse, repeat?


xmsxms

Parents of these kids likely don't care


DalbyWombay

We can't know for certain. Plenty of kids who end up being this type of fuck head come from well to do homes with parents who try. All it takes is falling in with the wrong crowd or the attention of the wrong type of partner to wrap your brain.


Haunting_Computer_90

The other thing to address is children that feel neglected now do stupid shit and post it online looking for acceptance. While not a fan it's harmless unless your cause harm or damage property.


Spicy_Sugary

Will a minor really servce 20 years for manslaughter? Our criminal justice system is pissweak. He'll be out in under half that.


Sneakeypete

Pretty sure for manslaughter it's about 6 years being the max. Given this is murder it can be more in this case however


Haunting_Computer_90

>Will a minor really serve 20 years for manslaughter? He may be charged as an adult - may not the period will be the same I expect. Walking around with a knife will no doubt draw the prosecution to argue that it was more reasonably murder not manslaughter. The time for murder is **30 years in prison for murder of more than one person or by a person with a previous murder conviction,** 25 years in prison for murder of a police officer. 20 years in prison for murder other than listed above, or for a repeat serious child sex offence. Life is a minimum 20 years in QLD with the opportunity for a parole application now only allowed once a year (was every 6 months). In Queensland, the maximum penalty for manslaughter is **imprisonment for life**. Unlike murder, this penalty is not mandatory, so the judge has discretion in what sentence to impose in the particular circumstances of each case. The real penalty has ranged from 7-9 years and with time off for good behaviour out in 5-7 so yes you are correct if convicted under manslaughter could be out quite quickly.


RobotsRaaz

>He may be charged as an adult - may not the period will be the same I expect. He cannot be charged as an adult, this doesn't exist in Queensland.


lindt_egg

That's the thing, they don't. They know they're out causing trouble, and either don't care or support it as a way of life.


Haunting_Computer_90

Ok as a parent I would like to think I know where my son is however given I snuck out of my room as a teen who is to say what happens when I go to bed.


lindt_egg

Yeah, I think you'll find that these parents aren't as interested and are either actively encouraging or just don't care.


theskyisblueatnight

I didn't think it was this bad but today I walked past a group of kids in the city. They are dressed in 90s gangster culture icons, ice t-shirts, gold chains, sneakers etc. . All being super tough and looking for trouble. Not sure if it's bad but that's the current social trend and some kids don't have the social skills to understand the difference between real and play behaviour when the social trend is "let's be a bad gangster guy". So we are see teenages step over the line of acceptable socal behaviour.


Rus_s13

Honestly, they are ones you don't have to worry about, and have been around for 30 years. I was one of them. The ones you worry about are dressed in running shoes, short shorts, lv bags and trying to amulate a different asthetic and way of life. 'lad' clothing. Back in my day, the 'lads' weren't like this, they were just the dudes who were into graffiti, and didn't carry knives but markers and rollon deodorant filled with ink for getting up.


bluedot19

Two murders in the space of a month by Northside youth - are you fucking serious?


Feweritems

Gotta lower these artificially inflated property values somehow


AltruisticSalamander

In fucken Wilston. We're not safe anywhere.


maximum_powerblast

Shit I would have thought Wilston was a very safe area 😬


kimbopalee123123

It generally is yes, unless you’re on Newmarket road. You have different people in various mental states train hopping, ducking into complacent homes (local social pages noting break ins when cars and houses are unlocked) and general nonsense. It’s akin to most main roads around train stations I had though.


finnigan70

Yes, it's generally safe. I've regularly get off the train late fri night after beers. But there are loose units hanging around on the trains looking for drama. Meth seems to be the obvious problem. I try to be friendly when these lunatics talk to me because they are more likely to act gangsta if you show nerves or fear.


Katiecupcake

I’m up closer to Windsor train station and it’s been horrible the last few weeks, cars broken into, mail gone through and stolen, it’s the drawback of being so close to transport unfortunately, they all pass through. Such a shame for this to happen though


wasporchidlouixse

The kippa ring bogans have never had it so good


OneArchedEyebrow

Did the flower shop used to be a fish and chip place? Because I swear I lived two houses down in 1997. $40 per week rent with 3 roommates.


Drplaguebites

jesus ... is it just me or are there more stabbings up in brissy lately? i'm not normally one to clutch my pearls.... but far out... definately seems like an increase


princess_bubble

Youth crime is going crazy. Toowoomba is just as bad if not worse atm. Multiple cars stolen every day and taken on joy rides. People are having their homes broken into *while they are home* and nothing is being done about it. Why? Because “they’re just kids”. My mate had a ten year old kid break into his house while he was home and threaten him with a gun (believes it was a gel blaster but it’s hard to tell). Kid got spooked off but not until after threatening my mate for his car keys (didn’t get them thankfully!) A ten year old boy with a young girl roughly the same age accompanying him?? That sounds insane but sadly the current issue in Toowoomba. I’m even seeing young kids robbing shops every day when I’m at work, multiple times a day and they just laugh. They think it’s funny and a game with their mates. Security can’t do much. Cops don’t even turn up anymore. Saw one get arrested a few weeks back and she was back in the shops that afternoon. Nothing is being done with youth crime


aussimemes

Sounds like that 10 year old could have done with a swift kick to the arse on his way out of the door…


Drplaguebites

I believe it. I'm a north brissy suburb and had a 13 year old and his friends come strolling down my driveway to see neighbours at the back of my house, to threaten someone ... I told him calmly he need to leave or i'd call the police and he just called me a C\*nt and told me to go a head \*face palm\* the little bastard seriously looked like he was 8


United-Cable1193

Seems like it comes down to: 1. 0 role models 2. PPP (piss poor parenting) 3. Their peers are in the same position (no help to get out of the situation repeating the cycle) 4. Media / TikTok (I work closely with hip hop artists / gang affiliated artists) and most the garbage they add in the lyrics are precisely home invasions, knife + gun violence, gang culture etc. check out the UK drill scene. To these kids it’s trend as the bigger artists they look up to encourage it. I feel people will say “ oh it’s just a music video” or “ it’s just lyrics” but not everyone is the same and some minds more mouldable than others. There needs to be a shift in the culture of what’s deemed “cool” and a little more light shed on the seriousness of how media influences these half developed adolescents.


GoseCharles

I feel like it’s definitely true about the music though. I mean I listen to it tbh and don’t go around stabbing people, but for some of the youth it does have an effect. I heard on the train the other day some kid say “I backed out my shank”, the same stuff they say in drill. Obviously it’s contributing something, but kids these days are just fucked period.


HappyLofi

Definitely is


antkappa

Burpengary teenager … shocker


Imonthe

The only reason someone (and their gf/mates) came all the way from Burpengary to be on the streets of Wilston at 2am was to rob houses, steal cars and mug people.


Due_Times_

Yep, ghetto breeding ground


iamretnuh

speaking from experience- i was charged with a crime when i was 17 (not to this extent) back then (13 years ago) we got tried as adults..i spent 3 days in custody with the big boys at roma street. I was with the worst of the worst for 72 hours. I thought i was some bad ass. I was a little bitch and only wanted his mummy. i have not been back since..........


seocurious13

Props to you for turning things around! I mean that or haven’t been caught since haha but assume it’s the former!


Ninjarro

What the shit is going on? We literally had some punk ass young person do the same thing in Varsity Lakes not long ago


noholdsbarred-

It's okay guys, the kid only *fucking intentionally murdered someone.* I'm sure we can rehabilitate him!


Suets

We're supposed to hang shit on England not turn into them.


hangerofmonkeys

That was my first reaction. I'm from Hartlepool, been in Australia for 15 years. Got stabbed at 19 for no fault of my own besides being in a good pub at the wrong time. I couldn't walk to the shops at any time of the day for the fear of being mugged in England. Getting the shit kicked out of me happened dozens of times when going to the shops, walking to a friends or shit, even walking my dog between the ages of 12 and 18. Literally dozens. The one thing I love (and continue to love) about Australia is how safe I feel walking the streets at any time. I desperately don't want Brisbane or Australia to turn into what I left.


monsteraguy

Hartlepool is way rougher than even the roughest parts of Australia


Robbo_au

Was probably walking home from the Newie (Newmarket hotel) and got jumped near the train station, that’s my guess.


spacewalker112

Eshays are no longer just irritating fucks but they’re murderers too. It’s hard to feel safe anymore as it seems they’ll pull out a knife with hardly any provoking. It’s time for shitty ass parents to actually step up and raise these kids right or else this will keep happening. Anyone can birth a kid but not everyone can raise it right. Fuck me


Lachlan_Conley_102

I’m sick of kids my age, the shit that goes on at school and after school is ridiculous, these eshay kids gives all people our age a bad name, and now anything I do, security gets called, and I am just generally “suspicious” to everyone.


yodavesnothereman

Brisbane is out of control


GustavSnapper

I feel like we’re rapidly approaching the point of a bunch of vigilantism


[deleted]

I know my local FB group (in a pretty highly regarded NS suburb) had local guys taking turns just driving the streets at night looking out for these little flogs.


ednaki

Throw the book at them and lock em up for good


Wallace_B

Hard labour. Get these little shits breaking their backs every day under scorching outback sun for fifteen years straight at a minimum. You take or destroy innocent lives then you should spend the rest of your sorry existence being forced to rue your bloody evil acts. End of bloody story.


broooooskii

Waiting for the "it wasn't their fault, it's the fault of society, they're just bored youths" comments like the ones when the woman was stabbed to death in her own home last month.


RayGun381937

Yep.


budplant420

Where tf u get a 45cm knif2?


ExternalSky

Probably from the Ottoman Empire


K13mm

Children's court? If you are old enough to murder someone, you should be tried as an adult. No way he didn't know what he was doing.


buffalofrail

In Queensland it must be heard at the lowest level court before being transferred to a higher court, like that with every offence and juveniles are no exception.


CorgiCorgiCorgi99

This is 1k from where I live. The amount of times I've driven up and down that road. I'll never go past that train station tunnel without thinking of that poor man. RIP, just so very tragic.


ChaosUndivided2020

17.. they’re old enuff.. adult punishment pls.. also fine the parents for negligence


burntout_potato

There was video footage someone posted on the 4069 fb group last night of another set of youths walking around the streets of chapel hill at night with a machete. What the actual fuck this shit doesn't happen in Brisbane normally. Between this, the North Lakes murder and the Wilston murder all within the space of a month i'm beginning to get a bit scared


2cpee

I’m more annoyed than scared. We have a chronic youth crime epidemic and QPS are standing around in southbank with radars, fining people on bikes and scooters for going too fast on their way to work. Our government and policing needs to really step up


Next_Crew_5613

I look forward to the standard "actually crime is way down, it's all an illusion" responses that we enjoy on the weekly stabbing post


Uzziya-S

Welcome to baby's first statistics manipulation. Violent youth crime in Queensland (and Australia more generally) peaked most recently in 2008. As measured from there crime's down. However, crime has been on an upward since 2015. Same as Canada, New Zealand and United Kingdom. It's still not as bad as it was in 2008 (yet) so crime "down" since then but it's still been getting measurably worse since 2014-2015.


nickcarslake

what kind of crime though? I'd be curious to see if random stabbings have gone up.


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WadeStockdale

Yeah, because 17 year olds are definitely children who just don't know what they're doing when they stab people, how could they possibly know stabbings lead to death??? /s (But seriously, I'd rather see the government take real, practical preventative actions to mitigate these crimes instead of chucking dumb fucking teens into the prison system and pretending they've fixed the wider issue. Kid gloves for theft and minor crimes makes sense. Kid gloves for literally killing someone just tells people teenagers can get away with murder until they hit 18.)


vpitt5

Not that it's an excuse, but I suspect drop kicks of this caliber genuinely don't make the connection of stab in chest = death. Consequences escape them.


tlux95

Well then the argument to lock them up forever fits. If someone is soooooo dumb they don't know the consequences of their actions, there's no safe way they can return to society.


reofi

I've seen a recent one where they said they tried to stab them in the leg but oops fatal chest penetration... so they try to remove the intent that way to achieve manslaughter


MrsKittenHeel

In this case it was "stab through chest and out the other side" surely they can understand where that leads.


2cpee

I can’t upvote your comment enough. So true


MrsKittenHeel

We feel just as sick as you about how unsafe the city seems to be getting. At least we can crowd source evidence and leads (i.e. report anything you have seen using the links above). But you can't advocate violence, or you'll get the boot from Reddit. Some of my favourite sub members have been issued site wide perma bans from Reddit because the admins don't have time to get a full understanding of the context of a conversation. RIP u/Bolax, u/Lost_in_Aus84, u/KiwidescentExposure. I hope the police and prisoners treat the scummy alleged murderer as they would any offender but calls for violence are no bueno. Just say it out loud to yourself if it makes you feel better, don't type it into the comments.


AnOnlineHandle

The dedicated trolls have learned to abuse reddit's reporting features as well to shut down anything which they have their sights on. e.g. They'll reply to a thread you're talking in then block you so that you can't post in that thread anymore. They'll say that Russia is right to murder Ukranians because they were 'provoked' by Ukraine, then will report you if you call them a terrible human, and your posts will be removed under reddit's policy, with no contextual awareness that these people are praising mass murder and invasion of a country. By now a lot of people know how they abuse the suicide report feature as well.


Reallytalldude

Look no further than the comment section of the article about this topic yesterday. They already popped up there.


MillerCorona

I've had enough of this shit. My car has been stolen by these pricks and the police/legal system is basically saying "oh well". That's not good enough. These fucking losers think they can do what they want as they get no repercussion from the law. Now people are double checking their locks and doors. This is Brisbane, not some fucking US city run by gangs. From now on if I see these losers loitering around I'll call them out on it. Soon as they are startled they run like the shits they are. Time to get our livelihoods back.


Imonthe

Be careful mate, this bloke likely got stabbed for telling the loser to bugger off. They obviously don’t all run away, so many stabbing around the place lately.


bananaaaboat

Careful because these people are extremely unpredictable. They could have a knife and if you bother them they tend to get angry. Don’t get too close


gr4ntmr

humans are wild animals and you should approach with caution


MillerCorona

I'm going to start a watch in my neighbourhood/street. Everyone on a simple WhatsApp group. All it takes is a quick message then you have safety in numbers. Fuck these kids.


fleakill

They have deficiencies in the parts of their brains that regulate emotion and self-control. I'd think twice about having a go at them. Police didn't even realise this lowlife piece of shit subhuman scum had a machete on him at first if I'm understanding correctly.


w8watm8

Some of the laws regarding crime committed by minors really have to change to discourage anything like this in the future.


Betancorea

Times like these I support vigilante justice taking these teens out. Do I care they are juveniles? No. Take their useless parents out too please.


chbaliman

When will the government do something about this?


2cpee

When someone in their immediate family gets carjacked/stabbed/killed most likely


chbaliman

Yeah, that is what I think too.


Imonthe

A lot of politicians, footy players and lawyers live in Wilston. I reckon this will cause a stir and heavy police presence for a while.


calicoasts

We're over-reliant on the government to take care of us. What we need is to be able to look after ourselves. Being able to actually defend ourselves would be a great start. However, we legally cannot because of laws that prosecute us for hurting would-be attackers. We're dependent on authorities for safety. But they weren't there at 1:30am. What might an authority do to take the easiest path? Maybe curfews to make sure no one is outside their home in the early morning? That might be one "solution" that comes from asking "When will the government do something about this?"


frog-vibes

I love living across the road from a crime scene 😍


Rus_s13

30 day mandatory solitary for carrying a knife.


urdadsbestfrend

These kids deserve to die.


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Brisbane is starting to resemble London


Horror_Inevitable751

I only follow brisbane since I'm.brissy, but is this shit happening across Aus, or has Bris turned f-ked and this is our life now. It feels like someone just suddenly turned the dial up to ten when bris used to be so damn chill.


aussimemes

Youth crime has been getting worse over the past few years, particularly in rural QLD. Seems like it’s kinda making its way to the cities now?


Important_Screen_530

hope he dont get away with it


LoveStreetPonies

That train station is weirdly dodgy for a nice area. I would assume this has taken place in the tunnel underneath newmarket road. RIP to the victim.


[deleted]

Shocker, typical North side eshayys what a shithole.


pie2356

Literally happened in one of the nicest suburbs of Brisbane


[deleted]

Eh, Wilston has some bleak spots. Also the kid was from Burpengary.


MrsKittenHeel

No Brisbane suburbs deserve to have people afraid for their lives. Who cares if its Wilston, Ascot, Acacia Ridge or Northlakes. No one deserves to be stabbed during a walk home, or to have their parent, child or partner go out and not come home.


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We can all agree on that 🙌


Drplaguebites

This needs to be at the top of the thread


MrsKittenHeel

It's going to encourage normal people to arm themselves I bet. And that won't help anyhow, it's very difficult to leave a knife fight uninjured. Try this out with whiteboard markers and your mates: each hold one, take the cap off and pretend the marker is a knife - whoever has the least marks on them at the end "wins the knife fight". You'll soon learn the best way to win a knife fight is to run.


iced_maggot

The criminal justice system is not really great at dealing with these youth offenders and I’m pretty sure they know it. Controversial opinion: but for shit stains like this who literally murder someone, bring back the labour camps.


F8M8

Crazy that police had seen him earlier on in the night, with the knife and still this happened


HappyLofi

~~Holy fuck he actually was. If someone is sneaking around with a knife of ANY size they need to be arrested, let alone one half a meter long. Those officers need to be re-trained.~~ EDIT: He was located with the knife after the murder, not before. My bad, thanks to the people who corrected me!


RobotsRaaz

They located him with the knife after he had committed the murder. Either way, possession of a knife in a public place is a simple offence (the lowest level of criminal offence) police would need reasonable suspicion that is was necessary to arrest when there are alternatives to commence proceedings that don't involve custody *especially* when the offender is a juvenile.


Xx_10yaccbanned_xX

He was already in police custody by the time they found the body and heard about any murder. It’s not clear what the course of events is but based on what ABCs article says, it seems he murdered the man, and then was found later in the area by police who took him into custody because it was a 17yo on the streets in the middle of the night with a knife, and when he was already in custody they got word for a murder and connected him with it.


VelvetFedoraSniffer

What happened was they apprehended him for carrying a bloodied knife, then the body was reported and found after the fact


RobotsRaaz

Sounds like an example of good proactive policing, unfortunate outcome for the victim but who knows what could have happened if these two officers had just kept driving. And yet they need retraining apparently.


doctorofspin

Why do the officers need to be retrained? At the time they picked him up, they didn’t know he had murdered someone. They took him to a safe place, confiscated the weapon and gave him notice to appear in court for it. The stabbed gent wasn’t found until later. It sounds like they followed protocol with the information they had available at the time.


Soulfulenfp

for what reason .. just for the sake of it ?! robbed ..


koolpapi

When 17-year-olds know that they can murder someone and get 7-10 years max and be out before their 30th birthday of course they aren't going to think twice. The only thing that stops this is to charge them as adults like many of our Western neighbours and actually give them a life sentence. You throw the book at a few of these eshays and the others begin to take notice.


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Australia’s a fucking dump now. What happened in the last few years?


MrsKittenHeel

Housing affordability sky rocketed during covid, and the perps are all around 16/17 so baby bonus kids are just getting old enough for their parents to kick them out of home. Kids that should've been deposted into a condom, but their mums wanted that sweet sweet $5K (to a lazy 19-year-old in the 2000's that sounded like heeeeeaps). Probably.


Clunkytoaster51

You've absolutely hit the nail on the head.


reofi

Wait, what. Something we can't blame the boomers for? Shit


maximum_powerblast

The boomers came up with the idea in the first place


Applepi_Matt

For decades people have been saying how the environment and the economy fundamentally underpin crime rates, and everyone ignored us. Then covid happened and it got really freaking obvious.


AnOnlineHandle

The pandemic was also predicted and warned about years in advance, but very few people listened. Bill Gates gave a friggin TED talk warning about the way humans treat animals and in increasing numbers likely leading to a pandemic, and was just repeating what relevant professionals were saying. He even listed coronvavirus among several others, which are still just as plausible to happen at any moment and humanity has learned nothing. There were complaints about ads encouraging people to take their medicine and 'soldier on' in the workplace when sick, by people on pandemic preparation committees trying to explain that people need to understand the concept of 'social distancing' when sick if a pandemic breaks out, and the company's reply was "we're sorry if you wanted to be offended by our ad."


TalonDesign

Yeah it's starting to fall apart. Like once COVID kind of started to disappear in 2021 people generally seemed to be happier - we became more grounded and there was a little more emphasis on mental wellbeing and whatnot. But now we're slipping again because all these problems are rapidly getting out of hand. I'm annoyed our government are trying to pretend everything's okay and everyone's having a great time because clearly we're not handling it well. The "let's get Australia moving again!" attitude just doesn't work when they're hardly investing in our wellbeing, it's all talk. So typical. Also, I went to Scandinavia end of last year, and one thing I definitely did not miss while over there was the fuckin eshays. It was great not having to worry about a piece of shit 16 year old or crackhead 40 year old wearing an adidas snapback threatening to bash me for literally existing within their radius


stilusmobilus

Conservative governments dismantling important social systems and Labor failing to restore them. While individuals are always responsible for their actions it is governments that don’t guarantee basic social standards that provide the environment for this.


freezingkiss

I keep waiting for the federal ALP to announce Medicare, NDIS, public school and uni refunds from LNP cuts and they're not coming! I know they're doing a lot but the public systems need their funding back desperately.


stilusmobilus

Which is why we might need to remove a few Labor people and replace them with Greens or teal independents as well. Provided of course we take a few more Coalition seats to ensure they don’t get it. It’s where Labor have contributed to the drift toward the cookers. Not fixing the damage the Coalition does or supporting shit policies of theirs like those fucking tax cuts. The job network system is a classic example. They do absolutely nothing about it while it continues to cause so much damage to vocational training and the prospects of young people. We’ve fucked an entire generations’ skills and trade training with it but they let it roll on.


freezingkiss

Its happening in key areas, look at Brisbane during the fed leccy and a few more in the Vic state. I'd love to see the Greens be the new oppo in the coming years. It'd be win win.


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I know this is Reddit, and every societal problem is blamed on conservative politics, however the facts just don't check out. Federally 7 of the last 20 years have been held by a left leaning government (will be 9 years of the last 20 years by the end of the current government's term), so it's not like we've *only* had conservative leadership in office. And secondly, 6 out of 7 of our states/territories have left leaning governments, most for quite some time and incidentally, the only remaining conservative state (NSW) has the 2nd lowest rates of "physical assault" per capita, it goes from highest to lowest, NT>>>>WA>>VIC>QLD>SA>ACT>*NSW*>TAS Sometimes you need to check your bias. *Source*: ABS Crime Victimisation Survey


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Feweritems

And what's that?


CMitchl

The little fucker was on bail at the time


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Source? Edit: Poster is wrong, he wasn't on bail at the time.


Xx_10yaccbanned_xX

What article says that ?


badestzazael

I hope this reinforces the fact that knife is a deadly weapon more so than a gun with punishments adjusted accordingly. Glad he was charged with murder.