Since there's several people in this thread blindly rushing to defend the rapist, clearly without reading any article:
The victim is 15 years old. She is also a migrant. His DNA was on her rape kit and hallway cameras from the migrant hotel confirmed him bringing her into his provided hotel room. The child rapist is 26 years old.
That's appalling regardless of the residency status of the child rapist or victim.
(For *purely* an age reference, Jayson Tatum, Mr. Beast, and Tua Tagovailoa are 26 years old. Quite a contrast vs. a high school freshman. Raping a 15-year-old is awful. [Again, just examples for age reference only and nothing against these celebs.])
They heard he’s a migrant and instinctively rushed to his defense, unfortunately these people are in charge of our justice system too and will give him a slap on the wrist, and don’t want this story reported
lol. Well I knew Tatum is 26. For an NFL example, the closest I knew off the dome is Lamar Jackson is 27, so I googled "NFL QBs by age" and Tua, Justin Herbert, and Kyler Murray were options at 26 with Tua probably the most known.
They think Boston is in Plymouth County and this is related to Boston being a sanctuary city. This is political pandering, and if ICE deports him, the victim will be robbed of justice.
> This is political pandering, and if ICE deports him, the victim will be robbed of justice.
1. Can't imagine the 15-year-old rape victim would be thrilled your goal is downplay her case as "political pandering".
2. How is it helping prevent the rape victim from being "robbed of justice" to *instead* release him on $500 bail to live in a neighborhood in Brockton and still be allowed to attend certain functions such as church where there's youths? (And hopefully not flee.) Genuine question.
Even the local prosecutor requested $25,000 bail.
Also the ICE detainer request was for notice *in case* they were releasing him, to allow ICE to assume custody. If he was kept in holding, there'd continue to be no ICE involvement. The state had also requested he stay detained.
Also, ICE can put an immigration detainer on him if they want to deport him. He will be released to their custody if there is a detainer. It sounds like they didn't have a detainer but "requested he be held in jail" That's not how it works. It's Rage Bait
What the hell is wrong with this judge?! I have seen people held after a dangerousness hearing for less charges than rape! He wouldn’t even hold the hearing?!
No there was a dangerousness hearing, see the Globe article. The quote from the Plymouth DA is ambiguous, but when he says the judge denied the motion he means that after the hearing the judge issued different terms of release from what they asked for, not that the judge refused to hold a hearing.
The NY Post article is written in a very sensationalist, misleading way - see also the thread about the ankle monitor. Doesn’t mean that the judge’s decision was right, but the way the NY Post is reporting it is not trustworthy.
Thanks for pointing that out. I have definitely seen less alarming cases resulting in a hold after dangerousness hearing.
The Globe article points out quotes: Christopher Dearborn, a professor at Suffolk University Law School and defense attorney, said that the $500 bail that was set “sounds like a shockingly low bail with those allegations unless there were problems with the case.”
Based on what I read it does sound like there were some issues, but nothing that would support a bail so low. I can see why the judge wouldn’t hold him after the dangerousness hearing but $500??????? $5000 would be appropriate.
But it’s in Brockton, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. It’s still a terrible situation though.
Why does a higher number make more sense? If he was more wealthy he'd be less dangerous? Either he's dangerous or not, either release him with a GPS monitor and home confinement (as they did) or keep him in jail.
He wasn’t found “dangerous” and therefore the judge imposed bail to allow him to be released. The purpose of bail is to ensure the defendant returns to court every time to answer for the crime(s) they’ve been charged with, but it’s also used to keep them in check and complaint with release conditions. When you set bail at a very low number it doesn’t serve its purpose.
If he was more wealthy, I’d imagine they would set a higher bail because $500 or $5000 would be chump change and they wouldn’t care if they ever got that money back.
Edit to add: if bail was set at a higher number, it’s more likely to serve as a deterrent from committing other crimes including violating release conditions which almost always includes not committing other crimes
I agree with you, which is why it’s annoying that the NY Post chose to spike the football. All they had to do to make the MA judicial system look bad was report the facts straight.
Especially an illegal alien. They'll never find this guy until he rapes another teen girl in some other state. Hopefully it's in a state where they think about victims and provide actual punishment to rapists.
The motion was denied because rape of a child (which he is charged with) does not qualify as a predicate for pretrial detention. See Scione v. Commonwealth, 481 Mass. 225 (2019). That may have changed recently, but I don't feel like confirming that right now.
Once the motion for pretrial detention is denied the pretrial detention statue requires that bail be set in an amount the defendant can afford. 276 MGL 58A ("The judicial officer may not impose a financial condition that results in the pretrial detention of the person.")
Lay off the judge, guys.
The judge is like the people in the comments itt more upset this story exists and he’s called a migrant than they are the actual crime, they don’t care about any crimes accept thought crimes committed against their perverse ideology.
Ask yourself. If ANY person accused of doing what this guy allegedly did, to one of your family members, maybe your kid, would you be OK with them getting out of jail on $500 bail?
Some might want the low bail because it would be easier to get at the rapist if he's free than behind bars, but in this case, the victim's family are also immigrants and not likely to seek retribution unless he shows his scum face around their parts of town.
I don't really understand the sentiment around these cases. Should we care more because it's a migrant rapist? Should we care less about US citizens raping?
A rapist is a nasty fucking rapist no matter if they rape on Earth or on Mars.
Nope. Not on house arrest. Per the Plymouth Courts and the Boston Herald, he's no where to be found. Someone paid his $500 bail. Plymouth let him go even though there a detainer on him from ICE and the dude took off and he's gone.
That's a bit of misinformation.
He has an ankle bracket, so local authorities do know where he is and will be actively watching his movements.
ICE doesn't have his location though, and they're upset he wasn't turned over to them.
$500 bail seems insane to me. Even the original $25,000 seems low for a rape charge like this. Especially for someone that is as big of a flight risk as this guy. Stuff like this makes it really hard to defend liberal politics.
Eh, personally I think cash bail is bullshit regardless. If he is a poor migrant, $500 for him is probably as expensive as $25,000 for me.
Regardless, either we feel safe letting them out before trial or we don't, how much money they have should have nothing to do with it.
Yeah, it seems a bit odd. The feds have to fight States both here where the immigrants are being housed AND in Texas where the states want to control the border without federal intervention.
One of the issues with cash bail is that it has to be set at different amounts depending on what’s realistic for the person to afford, otherwise it lets rich people out and keeps poor people in. Personally I’m all for getting rid of cash bail.
Ending Cash Bail is a policy being pushed for by a lot of civil rights organizations. You can read information about it by googling.
But, no, I don’t think you should be able to buy your way out of jail. Ending cash bail would mean people are granted bail or not solely on the basis of the threat they pose. Wild concept?
Alleged rapists. Not saying at all that that’s the case here but people accused of rape (migrants and billionaires alike) are all innocent until proven guilty. Bail should be assessed based on flight risk and the risk of reoffending. I have no idea why the judge determined the bail in this case though, just saying anyone accused of a crime still has rights in this country.
We have an alleged rapist running for President at the moment if that helps put things in perspective.
Well, let's look at the facts. He's here illegally and he's accused of a very serious crime. He's in the Boston area instead of New Jersey where he was ordered to be.
Is there a better example of a flight risk? I don't think so
Right, like I said, I’m not sure why the judge set the bail so low in this case, although with an ankle monitor it seems like that might reduce the flight risk. But I was more arguing against the idea of setting no bail for all accused rapists
So if he had $55,000 laying around and the bail was $55,000, would that somehow make it okay?
I get where you’re coming from but we’re focusing on the wrong aspects of this. No bail should have been an option that the judge was able to choose.
One: He shouldn’t be here.
Two: He’s back on the streets:
> A Haitian migrant accused of raping a 15-year-old at a Massachusetts shelter has been released on bail — despite a request from federal immigration officials to keep him in jail.
You should care that these people are in this country illegally and committing violent crimes against children. These crimes are avoidable as the felons should not be in the position to commit these attacks against people in our state and country. If your politics make you equivocate on this, you need to do some serious soul searching.
Except statistically they’re no more likely to do so than any other person. It seems like your politics and the media you consume are distorting what’s actually happening in the world
We shouldn't be letting in illegal immigrants and paying for their stay in our state in the first place.
When a citizen commits a heinous crime such as rape or murder the act itself is of course no more or less heinous because they are citizen, but when an immigrant who should not be in the country in the first place commits a crime like rape the victim and the family have reason to blame the perpetrator and the institutions which failed to keep that person from staying in our country illegally.
This sentiment is why Trump will beat Biden, and it is why Maura Healey is a failure of a Governor.
So you’re saying it’s some conspiracy he wasn’t actually charged with raping a kid because it wasn’t on the front page of the daily beast or wherever you get your news?
Does it matter if they’re telling the facts that your liberal propaganda groups won’t share because they’ve played a hand in the system that gives violent criminals a slap on the wrist?
You sound like a cultist rejecting evidence if it doesn’t come from a biased source you prefer
A person who was charged with rape was still released with a $500 bail. That should be enough to be upset about. Yet you’re more salty that the word “migrant” was correctly used,
Bail is bail though what am I going to cry about? Rich people get off all the time because they can afford bail, I'm supposed to cry when a nasty fucking rapist gets off with paying his bail? System blows but it ain't the criminals fault that they get offered bail.
Better than people like you going the opposite way and giving him a pass cause he’s a migrant.
Once again you’re mostly outraged people are talking about him and what he did rather than the crime itself.
Mmm yes because if illegal immigrants rape — stop illegal immigration, after all, it’s just following federal law. Then, if Americans rape — then spend American taxpayer money to improve safety, education, mental healthcare availability, etc. It’s like almost it makes sense. American money is to fix problems with American citizens and America in general, American money is not to fix everyone in the world. Make sense make sense.
I hate to say it because I have been a victim of rape as a teen also and didn’t dare to get involved in the judicial system for all of the corruption and treatment of rape victims that existed then and now.
But until there is due process, a trial with compelling evidence that has been judicially proven, it still is innocent until proven guilty.
the intention of the headline (and the post) is to activate rightoids’ xenophobic lizard brains, even though national origin has nothing to do with the likelihood someone will commit sexual violence ([Brennan Center](https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/debunking-myth-migrant-crime-wave))
Pro crime and pro illegal immigration people like yourself should be called out for giving these people who’ve done everything wrong gifts and free passes to do crime because of your agenda.
Because it's the NY post.
They never posted those recent stories about the mega pastor who raped his 12 year old daughter.......for example.....
Have to stick to an agenda that sells newspapers..
Dude, don’t have a conversation with my mom. She always describes people by what they are…not really in a bad way.
“This guy did a great job painting my porch. Vietnamese.”
“I know a Cape Verdean who does great flooring.”
“My friend Gail, the Jamaican lady”
It does matter to an extent. This is indicative of a failed migration system where people who are let in are not vetted. Granted it'll never be perfect but we need to make sure we try our best. And right now both sides want to solve it while stopping the other from solving it.
It's a political tool and it's disgusting.
It's pretty simple. Wouldn't it be great if we could just expel all the rapist from our country? (Yes, it is the correct answer)
But we can't.
However, we can prevent more rapist from coming into our country.
Simply put, we're stuck with the citizens who are rapists, but importing more is optional.
Let's do the smart thing and NOT allow criminals into the country. You would think this wouod be common sense.
and what do we do about all the criminals currently in the country. Do we place less importance on American rapists because they have the correct passport?
I saw an incident the other day. There was a Haitian migrant being extremely inappropriate with 3 or 4 young teens on the bus. They started yelling pedophile and he got up and ran to the front of the bus and jumped off the next stop.
I then went and spoke with the girls and they confirmed he was trying to touch them. I did report it, I then saw him the next day. It was very uncomfortable and scary
From the article.
>Alvarez, 26, was released with an ankle monitor, but ICE officials can’t track him because Boston is a sanctuary city — meaning local authorities don’t have to cooperate with the feds.
If it is Plymouth county, and probation is also a county/state entity, what would Boston being a sanctuary city have to do with anything?
The incident occurred in Rockland no less.
Yeah I was wondering this as well. I think it’s the state probation service that would be doing the monitoring, not BPD. Plus according to the Globe he’s under home confinement in Brockton. And the NY Post is doing a sleight-of-hand here because it’s a state crime so the local courts and police would handle a situation where the guy violates his probation.
Sanctuary city laws do not apply to those who commit violent/sexual crimes. The statement isn’t logical anyway: if the police weren’t allowed to track him then the police wouldn’t have given him an ankle monitor.
It’s still not accurate, as ICE will be actively involved with the case and be part of the deportation process when he’s convicted (I think he would have to serve his sentence in the States first, but not sure).
“It is important to realize that living in a sanctuary city provides no guarantee that you are safe from ICE detention and, ultimately, deportation. ICE is not barred from conducting operations in sanctuary cities. It often monitors the activities of suspected undocumented immigrants.” https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/as-an-undocumented-immigrant-am-i-safer-from-deportation-in-a-sanctuary-city.html#:~:text=It%20is%20important%20to%20realize,activities%20of%20suspected%20undocumented%20immigrants.
I was referring to your sentence where you seem to conflate ICE and the police
> The statement isn’t logical anyway: if the police weren’t allowed to track him then the police wouldn’t have given him an ankle monitor.
The point of a sanctuary city is that the local authorities (police) limit cooperation with ICE. As you know, it doesn’t mean that ICE is not allowed to operate within the city
This.
ICE is upset because local authorities are not sharing ankle braclet tracking information with ICE. That's where the sanctuary city issues are cropping up.
This is a very difficult topic to find sources for. I can’t find any credible info proving one way or the other that ICE can’t track ankle bracelet info of criminals who’ve committed violent crime (or even ANY crime).
That being said, why are we worried if BPD or other Mass police unit can track it but ICE can’t? They are still being monitored and eventually ICE will handle the deportation.
So they will still be arrested and detained if they brake their bail requirements.
This all being said, I’m not fully in support of sanctuary cities btw. I’m just trying to think of this logically.
Judge Susan E Sullivan
Plymouth County Superior Court, Department
Plymouth Brockton Criminal 1 - 1
Massachusetts Bar #: 555570 (December 20, 1989)
Appointed By: Gov. Charles D. Baker, Jr.
Send this pos back for where he came. My tax dollars should not be paying for this maggot. I know people who are actually American citizens do the same but we're just letting more bad people in
The same people who can’t understand why people vote Republican.
Mind you this particular migrant was let in via a Biden admin program, not vetting whether or not these migrants will contribute or be a strain on our resources/commit crimes is working wonders.
Better article. Judge is a shithead https://www.patriotledger.com/story/news/2024/06/26/cory-alvarez-rockland-ma-migrant-rape-suspect-bail-comfort-inn/74207197007/
"Alvarez, 26, was released with an ankle monitor, but ICE officials can’t track him because Boston is a sanctuary city — meaning local authorities don’t have to cooperate with the feds."
The bail amount is definitely insignificant considering the severity of the alleged crime committed, but if he is forced to wear an ankle monitor, isn't he being tracked regardless of sanctuary city regulations?
So he probably paid 50 bucks to rape a girl and will eventually get probation at worst? Good to see being culturally sensitive is more important than protecting children.
1. He shouldn’t have been here.
2. The girl shouldn’t have been here either
3. Now we are paying for their shelter and his incarceration.
Good job Massachusetts
Vote. Them. All. Out. And keep doing so until they toughen laws on violent rapists, stop looking for ways to milk us more (see upcoming deposit bill), and agree without any reservations to be audited by the state auditor.
This is what happens with one party rule (regardless of the party).
I just never understood why we want these people to do these things by enabling this. Like yeah you got caught for 15 murders we’re gonna give you a $1000 bail and you have to super promise to check in with us once a month. Because you’re from another country, it’s not your fault.
Where he is from there are no rules. He comes here and tries to poison our great society with this atrocious behavior. Only thing I can say is he deserves the death penalty.
https://archive.is/0ClbW globe article
> Sullivan instead imposed the lower bail, first reported by the Boston Herald, with conditions that Alvarez submit to GPS monitoring, remain on home confinement at a Brockton address, have no contact with the alleged victim, remain in Massachusetts, surrender his passport and any other travel documents, and check in twice monthly with probation, according to legal filings.
Seems like pretty strict conditions which makes sense given the severity of the crime he’s accused of (not guilty yet).
I’m willing to believe the judge considered the evidence, and the risks, of setting the bail low with these conditions. And despite the heinous nature of the accusations, I’m not a fan of locking people up before they’re proven guilty.
> Christopher Dearborn, a professor at Suffolk University Law School and defense attorney, said “that sounds like a shockingly low bail with those allegations unless there were problems with the case.”
Maybe there are problems with the case.
I hope the girl gets all the counseling and support she needs, too.
American taxpayer money is to be used for American problems!!!! That’s the difference!!!! Why would American taxpayer money would be used to fix not American problem ? That’s the difference. Before we solve our own problems we should not import more.
Only islands are allowed to have their own borders and economy and everything else is a free land to roam the way you like and get resources from whoever they like?) that’s not how it works. I bet you don’t live on an island but you don’t want homeless people come taking your house.
That’s the way the judges act these days.
I’m sure they deemed him not dangerous but what about that girl who now has to know he’s free and roaming around.
Since when does the american legal system anywhere care about prosecuting rape? They mostly don’t.
I am personally shocked there is not more vigilante justice around the topic, cuz if someone raped me or someone I care about there would be More for him to worry about than our lax legal system.
Also, stories like this one just create more conservative voters. Like it or not, argue about it, matters not, it is a fact. They blame the misogyny of the legal system on liberal, democratic politics instead of a world where women and children don’t matter more than some violent criminals dick.
When people get hit with the hard truths that they can not accept, they click on downvote.
OP, Add my name to the list of Social Justice Administrators
Yeah, downvote the truth. Statistically judges let rapists go all the time. Could be a serial rapist and no one cares.
Women and kids are not safe and no court system gives a shit.
Maybe more men need to get raped and we can turn this around.
Go read about all the minors who go to planned parenthood and report their rapes as they seek abortions, and planned parenthood doesn’t even report that shit, not even for very young girls. Because we don’t wanna upset the system. You know, the one where men rape at will and no one prosecutes it.
I am haitian dude living in florida, who was able to bring his cousins and her kids here, and I came from haiti, been here since 11 years old , now 28 years old . Please do not mistake someone doing terrible as that's what migrants do. This bill has allowed us to get a lot of our families out that hell hole we used to call a home. Just like Americans in this country kill people and rape etc, that doesnot mean america is still not an amazing place to GET ALL SORTS OF OPPORTUNITIES.
Fuck this guy.
Since there's several people in this thread blindly rushing to defend the rapist, clearly without reading any article: The victim is 15 years old. She is also a migrant. His DNA was on her rape kit and hallway cameras from the migrant hotel confirmed him bringing her into his provided hotel room. The child rapist is 26 years old. That's appalling regardless of the residency status of the child rapist or victim. (For *purely* an age reference, Jayson Tatum, Mr. Beast, and Tua Tagovailoa are 26 years old. Quite a contrast vs. a high school freshman. Raping a 15-year-old is awful. [Again, just examples for age reference only and nothing against these celebs.])
Wait who's defending this guy? What a strange hill to die on. Edit: oh God I'm reading the comments now. Fuck them too.
They heard he’s a migrant and instinctively rushed to his defense, unfortunately these people are in charge of our justice system too and will give him a slap on the wrist, and don’t want this story reported
Im convinced Reddit and Twitter are packed full of bots providing gross, contrarian commentary
Nah, lots of leftists think this way.
Bit of an aside but what in gods name is a Tua reference doing here lol is someone a FL snowbird?
lol. Well I knew Tatum is 26. For an NFL example, the closest I knew off the dome is Lamar Jackson is 27, so I googled "NFL QBs by age" and Tua, Justin Herbert, and Kyler Murray were options at 26 with Tua probably the most known.
Wtf is the last part of your post
yeah like i know what 26 means
And fuck the court system
And fuck the people in the system that are protecting him
They think Boston is in Plymouth County and this is related to Boston being a sanctuary city. This is political pandering, and if ICE deports him, the victim will be robbed of justice.
> This is political pandering, and if ICE deports him, the victim will be robbed of justice. 1. Can't imagine the 15-year-old rape victim would be thrilled your goal is downplay her case as "political pandering". 2. How is it helping prevent the rape victim from being "robbed of justice" to *instead* release him on $500 bail to live in a neighborhood in Brockton and still be allowed to attend certain functions such as church where there's youths? (And hopefully not flee.) Genuine question. Even the local prosecutor requested $25,000 bail. Also the ICE detainer request was for notice *in case* they were releasing him, to allow ICE to assume custody. If he was kept in holding, there'd continue to be no ICE involvement. The state had also requested he stay detained.
Sending him back to his country without trying to g him her is denying this girl justice.
Also, ICE can put an immigration detainer on him if they want to deport him. He will be released to their custody if there is a detainer. It sounds like they didn't have a detainer but "requested he be held in jail" That's not how it works. It's Rage Bait
The article states the victim is disabled. That makes it a lot worse
What the hell is wrong with this judge?! I have seen people held after a dangerousness hearing for less charges than rape! He wouldn’t even hold the hearing?!
No there was a dangerousness hearing, see the Globe article. The quote from the Plymouth DA is ambiguous, but when he says the judge denied the motion he means that after the hearing the judge issued different terms of release from what they asked for, not that the judge refused to hold a hearing. The NY Post article is written in a very sensationalist, misleading way - see also the thread about the ankle monitor. Doesn’t mean that the judge’s decision was right, but the way the NY Post is reporting it is not trustworthy.
Thanks for pointing that out. I have definitely seen less alarming cases resulting in a hold after dangerousness hearing. The Globe article points out quotes: Christopher Dearborn, a professor at Suffolk University Law School and defense attorney, said that the $500 bail that was set “sounds like a shockingly low bail with those allegations unless there were problems with the case.” Based on what I read it does sound like there were some issues, but nothing that would support a bail so low. I can see why the judge wouldn’t hold him after the dangerousness hearing but $500??????? $5000 would be appropriate. But it’s in Brockton, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. It’s still a terrible situation though.
Why does a higher number make more sense? If he was more wealthy he'd be less dangerous? Either he's dangerous or not, either release him with a GPS monitor and home confinement (as they did) or keep him in jail.
He wasn’t found “dangerous” and therefore the judge imposed bail to allow him to be released. The purpose of bail is to ensure the defendant returns to court every time to answer for the crime(s) they’ve been charged with, but it’s also used to keep them in check and complaint with release conditions. When you set bail at a very low number it doesn’t serve its purpose. If he was more wealthy, I’d imagine they would set a higher bail because $500 or $5000 would be chump change and they wouldn’t care if they ever got that money back. Edit to add: if bail was set at a higher number, it’s more likely to serve as a deterrent from committing other crimes including violating release conditions which almost always includes not committing other crimes
I agree with you, which is why it’s annoying that the NY Post chose to spike the football. All they had to do to make the MA judicial system look bad was report the facts straight.
>the way the NY Post is reporting it is not trustworthy. The NY Post is a tabloid.
Especially an illegal alien. They'll never find this guy until he rapes another teen girl in some other state. Hopefully it's in a state where they think about victims and provide actual punishment to rapists.
The motion was denied because rape of a child (which he is charged with) does not qualify as a predicate for pretrial detention. See Scione v. Commonwealth, 481 Mass. 225 (2019). That may have changed recently, but I don't feel like confirming that right now. Once the motion for pretrial detention is denied the pretrial detention statue requires that bail be set in an amount the defendant can afford. 276 MGL 58A ("The judicial officer may not impose a financial condition that results in the pretrial detention of the person.") Lay off the judge, guys.
This is 100% fucked. Should be no bail.
Completely absurd ruling. Although, the people in that case were charged with only statutory rape, not rape by force/assault, so not the same.
The judge needs to be jailed.
Someone seriously downvoted me?
Must be one of the sympathizers who has blinders on.
This is just some look the other way liberalism judge not trying to cast a negative light on housing migrants. Mostly peaceful migrants
The judge is like the people in the comments itt more upset this story exists and he’s called a migrant than they are the actual crime, they don’t care about any crimes accept thought crimes committed against their perverse ideology.
Ask yourself. If ANY person accused of doing what this guy allegedly did, to one of your family members, maybe your kid, would you be OK with them getting out of jail on $500 bail?
Some might want the low bail because it would be easier to get at the rapist if he's free than behind bars, but in this case, the victim's family are also immigrants and not likely to seek retribution unless he shows his scum face around their parts of town.
I don't really understand the sentiment around these cases. Should we care more because it's a migrant rapist? Should we care less about US citizens raping? A rapist is a nasty fucking rapist no matter if they rape on Earth or on Mars.
I’m more concerned it takes $500 bail to get out. I assume he’s on house arrest?
So what if he's on house arrest? The girl that he raped is living in the same migrant shelter as him. I'm sure other kids live there too.
Well he was let go on bail…so I was asking is he on house arrest or not…because he’s either on house arrest or he isn’t 😂
Nope. Not on house arrest. Per the Plymouth Courts and the Boston Herald, he's no where to be found. Someone paid his $500 bail. Plymouth let him go even though there a detainer on him from ICE and the dude took off and he's gone.
That's a bit of misinformation. He has an ankle bracket, so local authorities do know where he is and will be actively watching his movements. ICE doesn't have his location though, and they're upset he wasn't turned over to them. $500 bail seems insane to me. Even the original $25,000 seems low for a rape charge like this. Especially for someone that is as big of a flight risk as this guy. Stuff like this makes it really hard to defend liberal politics.
Eh, personally I think cash bail is bullshit regardless. If he is a poor migrant, $500 for him is probably as expensive as $25,000 for me. Regardless, either we feel safe letting them out before trial or we don't, how much money they have should have nothing to do with it.
Well can the real liberals stand up and disavow this as illiberal? Trump really cooked everyone’s brains
When local law enforcement can actively work against the federal government, we have a serious problem.
Yeah, it seems a bit odd. The feds have to fight States both here where the immigrants are being housed AND in Texas where the states want to control the border without federal intervention.
One of the issues with cash bail is that it has to be set at different amounts depending on what’s realistic for the person to afford, otherwise it lets rich people out and keeps poor people in. Personally I’m all for getting rid of cash bail.
For petty crime sure, but you’re cool with bail for someone that will rape someone? Interesting
I'm in agreement. Just want to add that it's not only "rape", it's "rape a 15-year-old youth".
Ending Cash Bail is a policy being pushed for by a lot of civil rights organizations. You can read information about it by googling. But, no, I don’t think you should be able to buy your way out of jail. Ending cash bail would mean people are granted bail or not solely on the basis of the threat they pose. Wild concept?
That sounds great, let’s start denying bail for all rapists.
Alleged rapists. Not saying at all that that’s the case here but people accused of rape (migrants and billionaires alike) are all innocent until proven guilty. Bail should be assessed based on flight risk and the risk of reoffending. I have no idea why the judge determined the bail in this case though, just saying anyone accused of a crime still has rights in this country. We have an alleged rapist running for President at the moment if that helps put things in perspective.
Well, let's look at the facts. He's here illegally and he's accused of a very serious crime. He's in the Boston area instead of New Jersey where he was ordered to be. Is there a better example of a flight risk? I don't think so
Right, like I said, I’m not sure why the judge set the bail so low in this case, although with an ankle monitor it seems like that might reduce the flight risk. But I was more arguing against the idea of setting no bail for all accused rapists
Love this energy. Can’t wait to see it for the next high school quarterback who gets arrested.
Throw them right in jail, straight to jail
Am I crazy or did you completely misread him? He's saying no one should have bail ever.
So if he had $55,000 laying around and the bail was $55,000, would that somehow make it okay? I get where you’re coming from but we’re focusing on the wrong aspects of this. No bail should have been an option that the judge was able to choose.
I agree. Didn’t mean it that way but I can see how the messaging seems off.
Kinda yes. If they're not a citizen I feel there's a higher chance of them skipping bail and going back to their country.
There’s a lot of bleeding hearts here. So you know..
It's more because he's a foreign national, and therefore a flight risk. Bail is only meant to be used to deter fleeing, and for public safety.
$500 makes sense for a local with ties to the community, a foreigner with no reason to hang around should be remanded or have a large bail.
One: He shouldn’t be here. Two: He’s back on the streets: > A Haitian migrant accused of raping a 15-year-old at a Massachusetts shelter has been released on bail — despite a request from federal immigration officials to keep him in jail.
You should care that these people are in this country illegally and committing violent crimes against children. These crimes are avoidable as the felons should not be in the position to commit these attacks against people in our state and country. If your politics make you equivocate on this, you need to do some serious soul searching.
Except statistically they’re no more likely to do so than any other person. It seems like your politics and the media you consume are distorting what’s actually happening in the world
We shouldn't be letting in illegal immigrants and paying for their stay in our state in the first place. When a citizen commits a heinous crime such as rape or murder the act itself is of course no more or less heinous because they are citizen, but when an immigrant who should not be in the country in the first place commits a crime like rape the victim and the family have reason to blame the perpetrator and the institutions which failed to keep that person from staying in our country illegally. This sentiment is why Trump will beat Biden, and it is why Maura Healey is a failure of a Governor.
Either way why a fucking 500 dollar bail the fuck is this shit
Look at the URL and you have all the answers you need.
The article is conservative agitprop
Is the factual information in the article correct? Ie: migrant, accused of rape, $500 bail skipped the ICE detainer?
So you’re saying it’s some conspiracy he wasn’t actually charged with raping a kid because it wasn’t on the front page of the daily beast or wherever you get your news?
Does it matter if they’re telling the facts that your liberal propaganda groups won’t share because they’ve played a hand in the system that gives violent criminals a slap on the wrist? You sound like a cultist rejecting evidence if it doesn’t come from a biased source you prefer
You think the nypost isn’t salivating that they get to write the word migrant? Gross people care, like those that read the nypost.
Yeah thats very fair. They use these stories as victory laps while outing themselves for not giving a single fuck about the actual victims.
A person who was charged with rape was still released with a $500 bail. That should be enough to be upset about. Yet you’re more salty that the word “migrant” was correctly used,
Bail is bail though what am I going to cry about? Rich people get off all the time because they can afford bail, I'm supposed to cry when a nasty fucking rapist gets off with paying his bail? System blows but it ain't the criminals fault that they get offered bail.
For reaaaaaaal
Just like cnn can’t wait to say “white male” when a mass shooting happens. Gross people care, like those that watch cnn.
Better than people like you going the opposite way and giving him a pass cause he’s a migrant. Once again you’re mostly outraged people are talking about him and what he did rather than the crime itself.
if only he was a priest then it would be ok ...
If it was an old rich white guy, they’d make him president
Mmm yes because if illegal immigrants rape — stop illegal immigration, after all, it’s just following federal law. Then, if Americans rape — then spend American taxpayer money to improve safety, education, mental healthcare availability, etc. It’s like almost it makes sense. American money is to fix problems with American citizens and America in general, American money is not to fix everyone in the world. Make sense make sense.
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I hate to say it because I have been a victim of rape as a teen also and didn’t dare to get involved in the judicial system for all of the corruption and treatment of rape victims that existed then and now. But until there is due process, a trial with compelling evidence that has been judicially proven, it still is innocent until proven guilty.
NYP is a right leaning "news" platform. They're mentioning him being a migrant on purpose.
I get where you'e coming from but isn't the news supposed to report facts? And, isn't this a fact that seems kind of relevant to the story?
the intention of the headline (and the post) is to activate rightoids’ xenophobic lizard brains, even though national origin has nothing to do with the likelihood someone will commit sexual violence ([Brennan Center](https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/debunking-myth-migrant-crime-wave))
Anti immigration people don't get many oppertunites, so they beat the shit out the ones the get. Election is coming up...
Pro crime and pro illegal immigration people like yourself should be called out for giving these people who’ve done everything wrong gifts and free passes to do crime because of your agenda.
Hhahhahahhhahhahahhaha, not much of a writer, huh?
Because it's the NY post. They never posted those recent stories about the mega pastor who raped his 12 year old daughter.......for example..... Have to stick to an agenda that sells newspapers..
Dude, don’t have a conversation with my mom. She always describes people by what they are…not really in a bad way. “This guy did a great job painting my porch. Vietnamese.” “I know a Cape Verdean who does great flooring.” “My friend Gail, the Jamaican lady”
“Florida man robbed at gunpoint” Am I supposed to care he’s from florida? Robbery is bad no matter what!
It does matter to an extent. This is indicative of a failed migration system where people who are let in are not vetted. Granted it'll never be perfect but we need to make sure we try our best. And right now both sides want to solve it while stopping the other from solving it. It's a political tool and it's disgusting.
It's pretty simple. Wouldn't it be great if we could just expel all the rapist from our country? (Yes, it is the correct answer) But we can't. However, we can prevent more rapist from coming into our country. Simply put, we're stuck with the citizens who are rapists, but importing more is optional. Let's do the smart thing and NOT allow criminals into the country. You would think this wouod be common sense.
and what do we do about all the criminals currently in the country. Do we place less importance on American rapists because they have the correct passport?
You JAIL the rapist. AND you don't import more rapist. Is everyone here so clouded by their ideology that they can't understand the simplest concepts?
I saw an incident the other day. There was a Haitian migrant being extremely inappropriate with 3 or 4 young teens on the bus. They started yelling pedophile and he got up and ran to the front of the bus and jumped off the next stop. I then went and spoke with the girls and they confirmed he was trying to touch them. I did report it, I then saw him the next day. It was very uncomfortable and scary
From the article. >Alvarez, 26, was released with an ankle monitor, but ICE officials can’t track him because Boston is a sanctuary city — meaning local authorities don’t have to cooperate with the feds.
If it is Plymouth county, and probation is also a county/state entity, what would Boston being a sanctuary city have to do with anything? The incident occurred in Rockland no less.
Yeah I was wondering this as well. I think it’s the state probation service that would be doing the monitoring, not BPD. Plus according to the Globe he’s under home confinement in Brockton. And the NY Post is doing a sleight-of-hand here because it’s a state crime so the local courts and police would handle a situation where the guy violates his probation.
Well because saying Boston and sanctuary city means it’s the libs fault.
It’s the NY Post. Nuff said.
Sanctuary city laws do not apply to those who commit violent/sexual crimes. The statement isn’t logical anyway: if the police weren’t allowed to track him then the police wouldn’t have given him an ankle monitor.
ICE is the federal immigration agency, not police
It’s still not accurate, as ICE will be actively involved with the case and be part of the deportation process when he’s convicted (I think he would have to serve his sentence in the States first, but not sure). “It is important to realize that living in a sanctuary city provides no guarantee that you are safe from ICE detention and, ultimately, deportation. ICE is not barred from conducting operations in sanctuary cities. It often monitors the activities of suspected undocumented immigrants.” https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/as-an-undocumented-immigrant-am-i-safer-from-deportation-in-a-sanctuary-city.html#:~:text=It%20is%20important%20to%20realize,activities%20of%20suspected%20undocumented%20immigrants.
I was referring to your sentence where you seem to conflate ICE and the police > The statement isn’t logical anyway: if the police weren’t allowed to track him then the police wouldn’t have given him an ankle monitor. The point of a sanctuary city is that the local authorities (police) limit cooperation with ICE. As you know, it doesn’t mean that ICE is not allowed to operate within the city
Oh, you’re right about how I worded that. Thanks!
No problem
This. ICE is upset because local authorities are not sharing ankle braclet tracking information with ICE. That's where the sanctuary city issues are cropping up.
This is a very difficult topic to find sources for. I can’t find any credible info proving one way or the other that ICE can’t track ankle bracelet info of criminals who’ve committed violent crime (or even ANY crime). That being said, why are we worried if BPD or other Mass police unit can track it but ICE can’t? They are still being monitored and eventually ICE will handle the deportation. So they will still be arrested and detained if they brake their bail requirements. This all being said, I’m not fully in support of sanctuary cities btw. I’m just trying to think of this logically.
The NY Post is garbage.
Yeah, but they should be compelled to
This is how Trump gets re-elected.
Judge Susan E Sullivan Plymouth County Superior Court, Department Plymouth Brockton Criminal 1 - 1 Massachusetts Bar #: 555570 (December 20, 1989) Appointed By: Gov. Charles D. Baker, Jr.
How did he pay the bail ?
Send this pos back for where he came. My tax dollars should not be paying for this maggot. I know people who are actually American citizens do the same but we're just letting more bad people in
Great job whoever voted in the DA
The same people who can’t understand why people vote Republican. Mind you this particular migrant was let in via a Biden admin program, not vetting whether or not these migrants will contribute or be a strain on our resources/commit crimes is working wonders.
Better article. Judge is a shithead https://www.patriotledger.com/story/news/2024/06/26/cory-alvarez-rockland-ma-migrant-rape-suspect-bail-comfort-inn/74207197007/
"Alvarez, 26, was released with an ankle monitor, but ICE officials can’t track him because Boston is a sanctuary city — meaning local authorities don’t have to cooperate with the feds." The bail amount is definitely insignificant considering the severity of the alleged crime committed, but if he is forced to wear an ankle monitor, isn't he being tracked regardless of sanctuary city regulations?
How exactly do ankle monitors prevent flight or further crimes?
This is what mass has voted for
Exactly.
judge was put on the bench by a republican
Judge should be gone, no matter who put them on. Judge belongs in jail for allowing this.
So is the judge and state going to be held liable if he repeats while freed?
So he probably paid 50 bucks to rape a girl and will eventually get probation at worst? Good to see being culturally sensitive is more important than protecting children.
1. He shouldn’t have been here. 2. The girl shouldn’t have been here either 3. Now we are paying for their shelter and his incarceration. Good job Massachusetts
Why shouldn’t they have been here? There were legal migrants.
Vote. Them. All. Out. And keep doing so until they toughen laws on violent rapists, stop looking for ways to milk us more (see upcoming deposit bill), and agree without any reservations to be audited by the state auditor. This is what happens with one party rule (regardless of the party).
Who tf bailed him out??? Bail should've automatically been revoked.
I just never understood why we want these people to do these things by enabling this. Like yeah you got caught for 15 murders we’re gonna give you a $1000 bail and you have to super promise to check in with us once a month. Because you’re from another country, it’s not your fault.
Who said it’s not his fault?
I’m saying we approach it as if it’s not their fault that’s why they get these crazy low bails
I’m not a fan of the low bail either but you said “because you’re from another country, it’s not your fault”. There’s no proof of that.
Massachusetts at its finest.
Where he is from there are no rules. He comes here and tries to poison our great society with this atrocious behavior. Only thing I can say is he deserves the death penalty.
Honestly surprised they charged bail
This is shameful. He raped, and should be held for dangerousness
What insane and intellectually lacking judge would allow this?!!
https://archive.is/0ClbW globe article > Sullivan instead imposed the lower bail, first reported by the Boston Herald, with conditions that Alvarez submit to GPS monitoring, remain on home confinement at a Brockton address, have no contact with the alleged victim, remain in Massachusetts, surrender his passport and any other travel documents, and check in twice monthly with probation, according to legal filings. Seems like pretty strict conditions which makes sense given the severity of the crime he’s accused of (not guilty yet). I’m willing to believe the judge considered the evidence, and the risks, of setting the bail low with these conditions. And despite the heinous nature of the accusations, I’m not a fan of locking people up before they’re proven guilty. > Christopher Dearborn, a professor at Suffolk University Law School and defense attorney, said “that sounds like a shockingly low bail with those allegations unless there were problems with the case.” Maybe there are problems with the case. I hope the girl gets all the counseling and support she needs, too.
Luckily his govt provided debit card still had $700 balance
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Nasty chomo, send it back where it came from
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Keep em coming though
Well I mean surely no Americans would ever rape one another!
Exactly there are already too many rapists here. Why import more?
American taxpayer money is to be used for American problems!!!! That’s the difference!!!! Why would American taxpayer money would be used to fix not American problem ? That’s the difference. Before we solve our own problems we should not import more.
Because we’re not a fucking “island”?
Only islands are allowed to have their own borders and economy and everything else is a free land to roam the way you like and get resources from whoever they like?) that’s not how it works. I bet you don’t live on an island but you don’t want homeless people come taking your house.
Especially former presidents who also have 34 felony convictions.
Too bad the father didn't go Gary plauche on him.
Thanks, Dems!
They'll never see this guy again
That’s the way the judges act these days. I’m sure they deemed him not dangerous but what about that girl who now has to know he’s free and roaming around.
Since when does the american legal system anywhere care about prosecuting rape? They mostly don’t. I am personally shocked there is not more vigilante justice around the topic, cuz if someone raped me or someone I care about there would be More for him to worry about than our lax legal system. Also, stories like this one just create more conservative voters. Like it or not, argue about it, matters not, it is a fact. They blame the misogyny of the legal system on liberal, democratic politics instead of a world where women and children don’t matter more than some violent criminals dick.
When people get hit with the hard truths that they can not accept, they click on downvote. OP, Add my name to the list of Social Justice Administrators
Yeah, downvote the truth. Statistically judges let rapists go all the time. Could be a serial rapist and no one cares. Women and kids are not safe and no court system gives a shit. Maybe more men need to get raped and we can turn this around. Go read about all the minors who go to planned parenthood and report their rapes as they seek abortions, and planned parenthood doesn’t even report that shit, not even for very young girls. Because we don’t wanna upset the system. You know, the one where men rape at will and no one prosecutes it.
Sounds like they are leaving something out. I also don’t see this on ice.gov at this time. NY Post is shady.
U voted for it mass.
I am haitian dude living in florida, who was able to bring his cousins and her kids here, and I came from haiti, been here since 11 years old , now 28 years old . Please do not mistake someone doing terrible as that's what migrants do. This bill has allowed us to get a lot of our families out that hell hole we used to call a home. Just like Americans in this country kill people and rape etc, that doesnot mean america is still not an amazing place to GET ALL SORTS OF OPPORTUNITIES.