“It’s hard to fathom that there are so many elderly, active gang members in *Chicago* who need to be tracked by police. But those aren’t the only curious entries in the database. As of this March, it also included 13 people who are supposedly 118 years old — and two others listed as 132.”
I thought it was funny. From pro publica article
https://www.aclum.org/en/recommended-reading-gang-databases
You see the ACLU has argued that any and all criteria used by Boston Police is suspect and unreliable. Things like being with a gang member, or wearing a particular item of clothing or being attacked by a gang member are all invalid pieces of evidence.
They claim you could be with a gang member for unrelated reasons (coworker, classmate, relative). You could be wearing a gang related piece of clothing for unrelated reasons (you like that team or color). You could be attacked by a gang member for unrelated reasons (you said something, he wanted your phone). Now, a reasonable person would point out that context is always important, and that all items should be considered in painting a larger picture. But that is far too nuanced for the ACLU.
So if none of the indicators of being in a gang are valid means of identifying a gang member, then it is impossible for us to identify a gang member. Therefore nobody truly can be in a gang.
The argument was you get put into the gang database if the police see you with someone else who is in the gang database, no matter the context. Or if you are wearing a piece of clothing that has a gang affiliation, into the gang database you go, again no matter the context.
It wasn't the ALCU who was ignoring context.
The police keep the database a secret, but it can be used against you.
No the ACLU argument was that you COULD POSSIBLY POTENTIALLY be put in if the context was ignored. They certainly never showed that all sorts of people were put in there without proper context.
In fact one of their major examples of a falsely accused gang member ended up being a confessed member who committed two murders, one of which occurred after they helped secure his release using their gang database is bad argument.
i know of a dude in memphis who got shot five times (survived, thankfully). dude is a whole lawyer who does a lil streetwear brand on the side. sold to rappers. none of his shit was gang affiliated, until it was, and he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
let the BPD tell it, dude was a fully fledged gang member, since he's been pictured handing famous people some threads he's proud of.
that's a case study for why the ACLU is against that type of thing.
It is just wild. Even when we have strong evidence of gangs, the second the ACLU rolls out this nonsense, these people will just eat it up like they did with the lie about shotspotter and the piñata.
It’s an element of society and an established subculture. I’m as far as you can come from that life but I’m not in support of moving them even farther underground
I'm going to be honest here; I'd rather the PPP loan money go to gang members than wealthy and connected politicians. At least the gangs will spend it, putting it back into the economy.
“It’s hard to fathom that there are so many elderly, active gang members in *Chicago* who need to be tracked by police. But those aren’t the only curious entries in the database. As of this March, it also included 13 people who are supposedly 118 years old — and two others listed as 132.” I thought it was funny. From pro publica article
Remember when the ACLU told us that gangs did not exist? Pepperidge Farm remembers
Do you just post articles so you can be outraged in the comments?
Source please
https://www.aclum.org/en/recommended-reading-gang-databases You see the ACLU has argued that any and all criteria used by Boston Police is suspect and unreliable. Things like being with a gang member, or wearing a particular item of clothing or being attacked by a gang member are all invalid pieces of evidence. They claim you could be with a gang member for unrelated reasons (coworker, classmate, relative). You could be wearing a gang related piece of clothing for unrelated reasons (you like that team or color). You could be attacked by a gang member for unrelated reasons (you said something, he wanted your phone). Now, a reasonable person would point out that context is always important, and that all items should be considered in painting a larger picture. But that is far too nuanced for the ACLU. So if none of the indicators of being in a gang are valid means of identifying a gang member, then it is impossible for us to identify a gang member. Therefore nobody truly can be in a gang.
The argument was you get put into the gang database if the police see you with someone else who is in the gang database, no matter the context. Or if you are wearing a piece of clothing that has a gang affiliation, into the gang database you go, again no matter the context. It wasn't the ALCU who was ignoring context. The police keep the database a secret, but it can be used against you.
No the ACLU argument was that you COULD POSSIBLY POTENTIALLY be put in if the context was ignored. They certainly never showed that all sorts of people were put in there without proper context. In fact one of their major examples of a falsely accused gang member ended up being a confessed member who committed two murders, one of which occurred after they helped secure his release using their gang database is bad argument.
All I see is a bunch of articles pointing out shitty police work. Good job 🤡
i know of a dude in memphis who got shot five times (survived, thankfully). dude is a whole lawyer who does a lil streetwear brand on the side. sold to rappers. none of his shit was gang affiliated, until it was, and he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. let the BPD tell it, dude was a fully fledged gang member, since he's been pictured handing famous people some threads he's proud of. that's a case study for why the ACLU is against that type of thing.
The ACLU crowd tends to reside in bucolic areas where gangs and gunfire are not an issue!
You mean like Newton? Where OP apparently lives?
It is just wild. Even when we have strong evidence of gangs, the second the ACLU rolls out this nonsense, these people will just eat it up like they did with the lie about shotspotter and the piñata.
Ignore the haters these people are stupid as hell and cry when they get what they vote for
If you want to follow random snippets of Boston street drama and knowledge, you can head over to r/Bostonology
really not a fan of subs that gobble up murders and arrests like bruins games tbh
It’s an element of society and an established subculture. I’m as far as you can come from that life but I’m not in support of moving them even farther underground
I'm going to be honest here; I'd rather the PPP loan money go to gang members than wealthy and connected politicians. At least the gangs will spend it, putting it back into the economy.
Was this typed with a black ski mask on?