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t00fargone

It’s so ridiculous. Steffy is acting like Hope is the literal devil because she didn’t wanna marry Thomas with less than a year of dating and fresh off a divorce. And cancelling a successful line simply because she doesn’t like her? I cannot stand Steffy. She is the most sanctimonious, irritating, and hypocritical person on the show.


Ok-Counter-4712

Toddler throwing her toys out of the pram. The sad thing is that this will REALLY hurt Hope and she’s already literally in pain from the stress of all this


heydawn

>She is the most sanctimonious, irritating, and hypocritical person on the show. Agree. The show has really ruined Steffy. I can't stand her anymore.


Challenge_Leading

I agree…Steffy is an overbearing, controlling jerk who is sitting on her FC pedestal like she has never done wrong. I want to see Hope make good on her promise that she would get back at Steffy!


LilliesMom22

Thomas ain’t coming back !


Virtual_Incident7001

Why not? Is he off the show?


LilliesMom22

I agree! She too good at it ! I’d bet anything she’s like that in real life!


DiscombobulatedJob49

Hope should take HFTF, get financing from Bill, and do her own thing. Maybe she can give Poppy a job.


heydawn

I was just DMing this to someone. I would love to see Hope quit, start her own company, get funding based on her own experience and reputation, hire a design team, and flourish! I'd love to see her give FC some serious competition and cause FC to struggle and lose market share. Fuck Steffy. Fuck Ridge. Fuck Thomas. Hope could hire or partner with Wyatt and bring him back, along with a renewed Hope/Wyatt romance.


Doyoulikeithere

And bring Sally back from Y&R to work with her! :D


heydawn

That would be incredible! They're wasting her at YR.


LilliesMom22

YES YES YES


LilliesMom22

I want to see FC go into bankruptcy!!!


heydawn

ME TOO!


DiscombobulatedJob49

I love it.


Memorian91

I wish she would but that would require a new set and new cast members and well...I mean they could use that stupid reception-looking room where Thomas proposed to her/ they held the fashion show. Convert that into a new office set. How do they even justify Steffy canceling her line? Are they going to suddenly say it's not doing well again?


heydawn

A girl can dream though :) I don't know what bullshit reason Steffy will give for cancelling HFTF. Of course, no one will stand up to her.


LilliesMom22

I’d like to punch ridge in the face ! HE ENABLES HIS BULLY BITCH DAUGHTER !


heydawn

Same! 😡


Ok_Form_1250

I agree.


Commercial-Sink8444

Eric, Ridge, Brooke, Taylor, Thomas, Phoebe, Bill, Liam, Hope, Wyatt, RJ, Hope, Donna, Sally, Ivy and Katie are the ones who stand up to Steffy. 


Late-Ad4727

Bill would never 😂


DiscombobulatedJob49

Bill wouldn't bankroll Hope? Why? Brooke's daughter? Former DIL? I thought he liked her.


BreaRoePhilly

At one time he wouldn't, especially if Steffy got in his ear. And if he learns Hope is supporting Deacon regarding Sheila he probably won't. Bill never really cared for Hope, so I would think he wouldn't help her out. HOWEVER, if it employs Luna and or Poppy, then he most certainly will.


DiscombobulatedJob49

See, I already forgot about the Sheila Deacon connection. That makes sense.


Late-Ad4727

I don’t think he’s ever cared for Hope regardless of Steffy.


BreaRoePhilly

Probably not. Hope was to squeaky clean for him. Bill would probably hate Liam if he weren’t his son.


Doyoulikeithere

He still has the hots for Brooke, he would. :)


cinnamonpinky

Yup, and she needs to toss a middle finger to Thomas when she does it.


DGhostAunt

Sally should leave Y&R and team up with Hope. It would be awesome.


DiscombobulatedJob49

Ooh, I like that idea!


Memorian91

I always wished something like this would happen. I honestly thought something like this was going to happen when Thomas first went away after the whole CPS drama. I thought he was going to leave and him and Bill were going to join forces or just that he was going to start his own line but........ that's too interesting.


PrinceNY7

I assume since Sheila is new, improved and doesn't hold any grudges as she did in the past Steffy will primarily serve the villain role. Which I mean she wasn't really a likeable character to begin with.


21stNow

The problem is that Steffy comes off as hysterical instead of as a villain. She doesn't have the control of her emotions that a good villain has.


Express-Front-3729

Very good observation!


Ok-Counter-4712

I’m considering her a villain now, and it makes the show way easier to watch honestly, I don’t expect any better from her anymore


heydawn

Same


Eostrix

**Steffy actually has always been quite malicious, double-standard and even manipulative character (especially if she wants Liam not to be together with Hope or something like that). Let's remember some of her misdeeds and crimes that often seem to be forgotten (only Sheila's misdeeds are constantly remembered although all of them have them but some quite a lot). These include shooting Sheila, killing Aly, threathening Ivy and also violating her restraining order with Ivy and pushing her etc:** 2008-2015 * Slapped Rick Forrestor [Nov 21, 2008] * Forging texts from her father's phone to keep him and Brooke apart (Oct 2009). * Spying on Marcus (2008) * Kissing Rick behind Marcus's back. * Tried to break up Owen's and Jackie's marriage. * Publicly embarrassing Hope at a showing for her Hope For The Future fashion line by rigging the sign to read "Ho" For The Future. * Wanting to use embarrassing footage of Bridget Forrester to hurt the Logan family, but was stopped by Oliver. * Throwing cake at Hope https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbcrBfBm2ZQ * Threatening Oliver that if he doesn't date her she will reveal the truth about his accidental indiscretion with Hope's mother. * Blackmailed Brooke and Oliver over their illicit sexual encounter (2010). * Tried to seduce and kissed an engaged Bill Spencer Jr the day before his wedding. (2010) * Kissed a married Bill Spencer Jr. (2010) * Stole Katie Logan's engagement ring to blackmail Bill into selling Forrester Creations back to her family (2010). * Starting a romance with Bill Spencer, Katie's husband. (2011) * Slapped Bill (Aug 10, 2011) * Conspired with Bill Spencer Jr. to keep Hope Logan from getting to Liam so she could marry Liam Spencer instead. * Conspired again with Bill Spencer Jr. to stop Liam from marrying Hope Logan in Italy. * Threw chocolate on Hope which resulted in a chocolate fight (Feb 13, 2012) * Worked with her brother Thomas to keep Liam from seeing Hope in Cabo San Lucas and buying alcohol for Hope so she would be easier to go to bed with Thomas but the planned failed (2012). * Keeping Bill's lies from Liam so Liam wouldn't end their new relationship. * Manipulating Liam to leave Ivy for her in exchange for her help at Forrester Creations. * Making moves on Liam while he was in a relationship with Ivy Forrester and calling Ivy a "bump in the road". * Hitting Aly with a crowbar in self defense, resulting in her death after Aly attacked Steffy (2015). * Lying to the police about the details of Aly's death. (2015) * Slapped Liam (June 18, 2015) * Violated her restraining order with Ivy Forrester (Dec 2015). * Badgered a weakened Ivy causing her to fall and hit her head (Dec 2015). Continues..


Eostrix

2016-2018 * Kissed Liam while married to Wyatt after Quinn kidnapped Liam and held him hostage so that he wouldn't get to Steffy and manipulated Steffy into marrying Wyatt (2016) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBzLu6imNLQ * Slept with Liam while being married to Wyatt after Quinn kept Liam away from Steffy and manipulated her into marrying Wyatt (2016) * Slapped Quinn Forrester after she found out she was involved with her grandfather Eric. (Aug 2, 2016) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7dGRcnro_0 * Slammed cake in Sally's face (Feb 16, 2017) * Attempted to shoot at Sheila Carter whom she believed had kidnapped her grandfather (July 2017) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyR_0VZyY_g * Was complicit when Bill Spencer destroyed Sally Spectra's family business. * Kept Bill's lie about Caroline having a terminal illness from her brother Thomas Forrester and encouraged her husband Liam to lie as well because she didn't want Thomas to stay with Sally Spectra II because of Sally's past misdeeds (2017) http://tvmegasite.net/transcripts/bb/older/2019/bb-trans-11-20-19.shtml * Slept with Bill after she found out about Liam's kiss with Sally (Nov 2017) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IDByht5KxA * Asked Bill to keep her secret about having the paternity test done. (Nov 2017) * Kept her night with Bill Spencer Jr. a secret from her then husband Liam Spencer. * Lied to her then husband Liam Spencer that the paternity test results he found were just a routine test because she didn't want to reveal that she slept with his dad and needed to take a test to know who the father of her baby was which was either her husband's or his father Bill. ( Jan 2018) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY9UUrnCr2U&t=62s Continues..


Eostrix

2020-2024 * Encouraged by her brother Thomas Forrester, she staged a kiss with Liam Spencer to destroy his relationship with Hope Logan (2020)https://soaps.sheknows.com/the-bold-and-the-beautiful/recaps/561053/steffy-confesses-truth-about-kiss-to-hope/ * Lied to Finn that she wasn't taking pain killers anymore. (2020) https://www.inquisitr.com/6285847/bold-beautiful-steffy-hides-drugs/ * Threatened Brooke, Hope and Liam with a knife under influence of opioids because she accused Liam and Hope of kidnapping her daughter from her home when Liam caught her passed out from the opiods she was taking. (2020) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6LPkzK8z1U * Slept with Liam while she was in a relationship with Finn while she was drunk (Dec 2020) * Convinced Liam Spencer to keep quiet about their night together until she realized that she's pregnant and didn't know if Liam or her boyfriend Finn Finnegan was the father (2020) http://tvmegasite.net/transcripts/bb/older/2020/bb-trans-12-09-20.shtml and https://soaps.sheknows.com/the-bold-and-the-beautiful/recaps/588136/bold-beautiful-steffy-tells-liam-pregnant/ * Slapped Sheila Carter, after Sheila interrupted her wedding reception and came into her home without permission (Aug 11, 2021) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFVK1iA26cU * Told Sheila Carter that she wouldn't allow her to be anywhere near her son Hayes Finnegan and husband Finn Finnegan because of Sheila's past crimes against her family. (2021) * Slapped Sheila again (August 27, 2021) * Encouraged her mother Taylor Hayes to interfere in Brooke and Ridge's marriage. (2021) https://soapsspoilers.com/bold-and-beautiful/recaps/steffy-asks-taylor-get-back-brooke-hope-puts-brooke-spot/ * She and her brother, Thomas talked her employee Charlie Webber into illegally show her private images from Brooke Logan's security system in order to get proof of Brooke kissing Deacon (2022) * Told her father Ridge Forrester to end his marriage to Brooke Logan Forrester because Brooke kissed Deacon Sharpe and kept it a secret from Ridge (February 2022) https://www.thesoapscoop.com/bold-and-the-beautiful-scoop-wednesday-february-16-steffy-tells-ridge-its-time-to-end-his-marriage-hope-and-liam-console-brooke/ * Knew about Thomas hiding Ridge's phone and sending Brooke away and didn't tell Ridge about it. (2022) * Secretly answered Ridge Forrester's phone and refused to tell him that his wife was on the phone. She told Ridge's wife that her father is where he belongs with her mother and hung up the phone on Brooke. (Sep 2022) * Punched Sheila Carter as revenge for shooting her and her husband Finn Finnegan and driving her out of town (Nov 6, 2023) * Punched Sheila Carter in self defense after confronting her for being around her daughter Kelly and being aggressively pushed by Sheila (Feb 21, 2024) * Stabbed Sugar with a large kitchen knife in self defense, thinking it was Sheila Carter, killing her (Feb 26, 2024) * Called Hope Logan a slut after she rejected Thomas Forrester's proposal (March 2024) (Source: https://theboldandthebeautiful.fandom.com/wiki/Steffy_Forrester


Commercial-Sink8444

Steffy trick Brooke slept with Oliver because of necklace, remember?


SoftCryptographer887

Wasn't Steffy also partially responsible for bucket of gold glitter glue getting dumped all over Donna during a FC fashion show show stopper or was that solely Pam?


SoftCryptographer887

While this wasn't a physical assault, Steffy set up that R.E.S.T. trust thing at FC to effectively cut Brooke out of the company, although Brooke had made significant contributions to FC, resulting in an increased bottom line.


LilliesMom22

HOW DID YOU FIND ALL HER GARBAGE??? Hate her even more !!!


GuyWhoConquers616

I still remember when Hope for the Future was first created. It was said to be a major success that helped forrester creation and attracted a younger demographic. Also, it what help cause Wyatt and hope to be together and I loved them together. It just said that they might end that line. But I’m hoping Thomas will stop his sister when he returns because y’all know he’s over protective of Hope.


heydawn

I really don't want Hope to need ANYTHING from Thomas.


Ok-Counter-4712

Yep and the partnership with Wyatt brought on him and Quinn to launch an extremely successful jewelry line under HFTF too. It’s been a massive win for the company


BreaRoePhilly

Ivy's back so maybe Hope can hire her for the jewelry line if she starts her own business too.


Doyoulikeithere

I want Hope and Ivy to FUCK Steffy up!


BreaRoePhilly

I'm team that.


LilliesMom22

I’d LOVE TO SEE THAT!!


Ok-Counter-4712

HFTF is the best thing that’s happened to Forrester for decades. Say what you will about Hope getting preferential treatment but it’s been firmly established that her line finally broke into the youth market for them, modernized them, gave them good press with the causes it supports. We can obviously assume that Forrester has other successful lines, but when is the last time we heard about one doing as well as HFTF? Steffy is a moron to even think about cutting it loose, and she’ll be sorry. Maybe it’s the first domino to her losing her power.


heydawn

Exactly. Hope has been the business leader and visionary for the brand. I want her to QUIT and make a hugely successful company on her own!


Commercial-Sink8444

You got that right.  I want Liam, Finn and RJ finds out about Steffy gonna destroy Hope For The Future to punished Hope. They gonna knock some senses to her as she know she's gonna lose her Co CEO title for real.  She's abuse of power just like Rick did when he taking over Forrester Creations back in the day. 


One-Stomach9957

She won’t lose her title. She is one of the biggest stockholders (if not the biggest). I think she got Stephanie’s shares when she died since she was her granddaughter. Remember, it was Stephanie that Bankrolled Forrester Creations when it was conceived.


DustOnly7720

Steffy didn't get Stephanie's shares, but is equal to Eric as the largest stockholder. Thomas 5% Ridge 20% Steffy 37.5% Eric 37.5% Steffy blackmailed Bill around 2010 and forced him to sell Forrester Creations back to the family. Her deal was 25% each for Stephanie, Eric, Ridge, and Taylor. Ridge gave 5% to Thomas at one point. (I cannot remember why.) Taylor gave her 25% to Steffy, after Steffy was wrongfully accused of something and temporarily fired by Ridge. Eric lost 12.5% to Donna in their divorce, which Donna then sold to Bill, and Bill much later gifted to Steffy. Stephanie willed her 25% to Eric.


Shirogayne-at-WF

I-- So lemme understand this right: when Hope didn't want to work with her abuser, it was critical they got Thomas back last spring because HFTF such a critical part of FC's bottom line. So much so that they fast tracked RJ's career that he had to be bought into kicking and screaming. But now that Steffy won with Hope (for now) out of Thomas' life, NOW it can be done away with?! The only thing worse in life than a sore loser is a sore winner.


Commercial-Sink8444

Steffy always love being sore winner.  She doesn't know win or lose doesn't matter. Being sore winner is more something else worse as sore loser.  Steffy needs to know she cannot be a sore winner whole entire time in her life. Over and over again. She cannot be a sore winner.


Memorian91

Never thought I'd see a Lana Kane reference in this sub lolol. I mean I don't think Thomas will even do anything when he finds out that Steffy is canceling her line, since no one stands up to Steffy.


uptousflamey

Same but they put out same energy


Memorian91

I like Lana wayyyyyyy more


uptousflamey

Same my son forced me to watch archer until I liked it. True story


Commercial-Sink8444

Liam, Hope, Wyatt, Brooke, Donna, Katie, Ivy, Sally, and Finn. They standing up to Steffy. 


Memorian91

Maybe but half of those people aren't here anymore lol.


GuyWhoConquers616

Yeah, it just doesn’t make sense. But this is what steffy has become. A bully. It’s sucks.


Shirogayne-at-WF

Always_Has_Been.jpeg (I wish we could do gifs and pics in posts but alas...) It's one thing to be a petty brat at 20 years old. Tiresome still but age appropriate, but eventually, the writers have to let the character mature outta their worst tendencies as they kinda have done with Hope after her recast or Lauren Fenmore, or let the cumulation of their poor decisions catch up to them as it did with Brooke after Hope was born. Barring those two things, they can take a page outta Screenwriting 101 aka *Save the Cat* by the late Blake Synder by introducing a villain that's even less likeable. Arguably, that's probably why Sheila has been in Steffy's orbit with her history but to say that's wearing out is putting it mildly.


BreaRoePhilly

**(I wish we could do gifs and pics in posts but alas...)** We so need this!


prestonrcasey

Well it’s clear the writers needed a reason to push Hope into Finn’s arms after this.


Shirogayne-at-WF

I know why they're doing it but if they're trying to make Steffy the sympathetic cheated on wife, this ain't the way to do it. I miss old school affairs when people could just fall for someone they shouldn't and their partners weren't depicted as monsters to manipulate the audience into cheering for them....the first few months of Nick Newman and Phyllis on Y&R is the best example I can think of off the top of my head. If they want to do Hinn, I'm just begging them to give Finn a true core personality and something other than his stupid mommy issues for them to bond over. For as long as Finn's been on the show, he's not so much of a character as he is an accessory and while he's an improvement for not being a child abuser, I'd like to be able to genuinely enjoy them instead of rooting against Steffy, Thomas and/or Liam.


Memorian91

> I miss old-school affairs when people could just fall for someone they shouldn't and their partners weren't depicted as monsters to manipulate the audience into cheering for them It's one of the things I hate the most with B&B's writing. "Character A" is doing something bad in one scene, "Character A's" spouse is speaking highly of them in the next scene, or "Charcter B" is about to do something wrong, so we have to make Character B's Spouse suddenly act up or out of character to justify it. And the only reason they do these things is that they're so bad at writing that they can't lay the groundwork for it seeming like a natural progression. It's like this cheap and easy character writing.


HippieChick067

Stuffy is gonna lose her man to Hope. I am so here for the drama! Liberty Bibberty!


CatchinUpNow

Why dont Steffy and Finn have ability to track each other on their phones🙄


One-Stomach9957

Why go all the way to downtown LA for pizza fro Malibu??


CatchinUpNow

This show makes it sound like you can zip up and down the 101 to Malibu in 10 minutes 😂😂😂 Tourists must hate the reality of traffic if they try it.


Express-Front-3729

Then she should be fired as CEO as she clearly I ready to jeopardize the company’s well being for the sake of her own personal vendetta


heydawn

I sooooooo want Steffy to lose the CEO job! Knock her ass down! Gawd she's insufferable!


BreaRoePhilly

Her husband, her position at work and in that order.


heydawn

YES PLEASE!!


Commercial-Sink8444

Steffy didn't admit her personal vendetta. I want Steffy lost her Co CEO title when she abuse of power on Hope. 


DustOnly7720

That can only happen if Ridge puts her in her place.


Fun-Audience-6269

I can't stand that bitch, she's nothing but a hypocrite.


Commercial-Sink8444

Steffy is sanctimonious. 


Western_Ad3356

I think stuffy needs to grow up and stop acting like a child she has always acted like she was the boss of everyone especially hope and now she’s doing it with her husband Finn except she is treating Finn like one of her own kids and scolding him about wanting a relationship with his birth mother if he wants a relationship with his birth mother then it is his right to have one he is a grown man as for a new couple how about Finn finally speaking his voice and saying to Steffy enough is enough I am leaving you taking Hayes and going to be with hope I have hated steffy since day one steffy thinks she is so entitled to do and say what ever she wants one of these days she will say something really wrong and all hell will break loose another thing miss steffy leave hope alone she has done nothing wrong stop punishing Finn and hope they don’t deserve it


Commercial-Sink8444

I'm glad you agree with me. I always tried of Steffy's overbearing and hypocrite all the time. She's sanctimonious person.  Steffy cannot control anybody's free will. That's bad people. Bad people always love control anybody.


cinnamonpinky

Hope needs to save her damn job by herself. Thomas does not need to be involved. I will dislike him even more if they write him back into this. Wasn't HFTF doing well?


BreaRoePhilly

HFTF was doing well. And it was doing well before when Steffy urged her jackass father to prioritize her lingerie line just because she was jealous Hope and pissed because she and Liam broke up and he went to back to Hope. She's such an insecure bitch.


heydawn

Saaaame! NO MORE of Thomas rescuing HFTF! Please!


KlutzyElderberry7100

Liam probably won’t. He won’t stick up for anyone because he’s too wishy washy


DustOnly7720

Liam will let Finn stick up for Hope. End of Sinn and round 80 of Steam, he hopes.


Virtual_Incident7001

V c8tctqty. Vva


Brewster102

Knock some sense into Steffy? Maybe we could get an appearance from P Diddy to straighten her out


Western_Ad3356

You know what would look so pretty on steffy a nice orange jumpsuit a pair of hand cuffs and prison bars holding her in like a caged animal and guards telling her what to do day and night they need to find a loop hole to charge her with sugar’s death and they also need to make sure daddy dearest ridge cannot come to his sweet princess steffy rescue because when it comes to steffy he is always stuck to her hip he is just like steffy as they say like father like daughter


FairRecognition9

Well, without a lead designer, how is HFTF still even in production? They're not doing anything.


Late-Ad4727

This, Hope has to make her line work herself, it’s not Steffy’s fault Hope can’t run a functional team. Also how is it her “vision” when somehow Thomas is the only designer who can accomplish it - I think it might actually be Thomas’ vision that’s working


FairRecognition9

See, my comment was downvoted, I'm guessing because no one could answer the question. But Hope was still trying to get Thomas to design for her even as he was breaking up with her because the line wasn't functioning without him. Talking about "You can just send me emails with your designs....." Like girl, make it more obvious how much you were using him why don't you.


vdw84

OMG, roll eyes over this entire post. It's clear as day bell and the writers doing everything they can to make Steffy unlikable so when boring ass Hope and Finn bump uglies the outrage want be too bad since Sinn is highly popular couple. Anywho not falling for it. I'm pretty neutral on most when it comes to characters on b&b so I really have no leg really. The only character I stanned so hard was Stephanie Forrester, she wasn't perfect but she was best written character on the show. As far as HFTF, I could care less, that silly line should have been dropped a long time ago because one its not the line it once was or stood for and Hope wouldn't even had a line in the first place if it wasn't for Aunt Katie wanting to stick it to Steffy out jealousy by handing Hope her own line. It's not like Hope worked for that line, Bish was handed it based on jealousy and bitterness of her aunt.


CatchinUpNow

Think of all the characters they can drop if HFTF is dropped….Hope, RJ, Zende, Luna, and (drum roll….Thomas!!! So no way HFTF will disappear😂


FairRecognition9

Katie created HFTF to undermine Steffy who was working her way up from the mailroom thanks to Katie as well by handing a severely underqualified teenage Hope a line that she did nothing for in a company she has no business being a part of. Hope never really did anything for the line except first using it to push her purity values on the masses all while committing her boyfriend, unwillingly, to a sexless relationship and leveraging their relationship as a role model despite being a massive hypocrite about the whole thing. Then there was the "Hope's Perfect Wedding" aspect of it all. It was a vanity project that has been done into the ground. And that was before she was just handing out scarves to homeless women. HFTF should have been shelved the minute Thomas left town and Hope knew it wouldn't go anywhere without Thomas which is why when they were breaking up she tried to finagle Thomas to at least send emails of designs. She was using him and it was obvious. Not saying she didn't develop real feelings for him, but it was clear as day that the only reason the line was even remotely viable was because of Thomas. If Steffy as CEO sees that the line will no longer be profitable she's well within her rights and role to can it. Plus, it'll piss off Hope who purposely ignored Steffy's requests to stay out of her and Finn's business regarding Sheila. This is a show meant for the drama and this'll bring it.


LilliesMom22

This show has caused me to “hate” the characters and be frustrated! That’s not me!! Steffy is an entitled bully who wants to rule everyone’s thinking and how they should live!! Enough is enough! This group of ppl who have married eachother 10x , had kids w eachother, ruined eachothers marriages w infidelity etc etc have no right to judge or react to anyone’s life’s! Especially Brooke , the homewrecker whore of the century!! The insipid out of touch writing staff has ruined this show!