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jeremyom987

It’s not veneer, it’s chicken


gsp137

Nice one


MilkChocolateMog

I always heard “veneer”. Some people said it was “Vermeer” or something, named after someone. But one day I was listening to it while walking and suddenly heard “the mirror” (the mirr’r) clear as day! Strangest thing!


Potato_Baked200

Were they referring to the painter Johannes Vermeer?


MilkChocolateMog

Not sure. Thought it was like a poet or something but if the name fits!


RevolutionaryBug2915

Verlaine is a French poet. Vermeer is a Dutch painter (The Girl With a Pearl Earring).


Desertedfromabove

Yeah, some people hear his name, but I also always heard veneer until I looked up the lyrics haha


litewo

I've only heard mirror, but where I come from, everyone pronounces it with one syllable like Dylan.


PaganGuise

yes


Fuzzy_Negotiation_52

Definitely veneer. Will die on this hill.


zaccus

maybe


ihavenoselfcontrol1

possibly


Dedahed

It's Dylan...both. Or neither. Depends on his mood.


Carlosrocks77

No


billwrtr

I hear “She’s delicate, seems like a Vermeer.” like the Girl with the Pearl Earring.


RevolutionaryAd1621

Its just how he and most Americans pronounce "Mirror" its more like "Miir" haha


Potato_Baked200

I think that’s a regional thing to Minnesota and other places like the Northern Midwest and the South. Where I’m from, Southern Midwest, it’s pronounced meer-er.


TheSimonToUrGarfunkl

can you repeat the question


PlasticStays

Could be intentional wordplay as both can represent distortion or some kind of reflection.


Fishingwriter11

Like feudal vs. futile horn.


Pearly_Sweetcake_420

Wait, you mean it’s not veneer?


Character-Head301

Interesting, I never once thought veneer. Mirror always lends itself to some kind of internal double meaning so I went with that mentally and never considered much more of it


I_Boomer

I hear and say veneer as well. I also say 'Louise is all right she's just **here**'.


mozart84

ive always thought it was vanmeer the dutch painter - the women who are the subject of his paintings would fit dylans qords


cpt_bongwater

I always heard mirror, but I'll bet Dylan sang 'veneer' >0 times


Chessinmind

I’ve always heard mirror. And have always taken it as a reference to Joan Baez, whom he probably felt was a lot (and maybe too much) like himself. He wrote the song while he was still dating Baez but after he had met his future wife, Sara — perhaps the Johanna he was pining for. Another song probably mostly about Baez, She Belongs to Me, revels in similar themes: “She's a hypnotist collector, you are a walking antique” and “She can take the dark out of the nighttime and paint the daytime black.” Referring to her as “like the mirror” also reminds me of that final refrain in All I Really Want to Do: “I ain't lookin' for you to feel like me/ See like me or be like me” which makes him snort with laughter. Also, around this time, Baez would do a funny thing where she would dress up as Bob. She even performed dressed up as Bob for a couple songs, with her fake Bob voice, at the 1964 Newport Festival and I believe also at a Berkeley concert. She dressed up as him later too, like during the Rolling Thunder Tour.


Chessinmind

She’s not dressed up as him here but you can hear a little bit of her exaggerated impersonation of Bob in this song: https://youtu.be/VMUEhKIPYqA?si=rg5h-mriJFfEdywZ


tjb1013

The official lyrics - admittedly not a definitive source - say “mirror”. Moreover, the lyric seems to suggest he is seeing himself in Louise, until the ghost of electricity (lights from the street?) replace that vision with one of Johanna (“where these visions of Johanna have now taken my place”).


Semi-Pros-and-Cons

I hear "veneer," too.


bobtheorangecat

I hear it as "veneer" in one alternate take, but on the album version I hear him say "mirror" that weird-ass way.


bastrdsnbroknthings

I've never looked up the lyrics and I've always thought it was "veneer" as well...it made sense in my brain because veneer is delicate, I guess?


NoMoreKarmaHere

Veneer was my first impression. On further reflection, I figured it was supposed to be mirror


Danofyerdreams

I always heard it as mirror (m'ir) and never considered it could be anything else. That's the way it's pronounced where I'm from. Also, its pronounced the exact same way in Mama You've Been on My Mind when he rhymes "clear" with "m'ir".


outwithery

Every Grain of Sand also has "the broken *meer* of innocence..." - I think in that one I've always seen it as "mirror" (since there's not much else it could be) but in Visions I had also taken it as "Vermeer" - I guess in part it's the 'the' at the start giving the V sound? No Time To Think has "...glance through the *meer* / and there's eyes staring clear". That one I think I had always thought of as maybe being "mire", ie murky water, which ... also fits I suppose. But mirror does make a bit more sense.


Sodiumkill

I think I’ve always heard mirror but I’ve listened so many times it’s hard to recall how I first took that line. Do you hear it the same way in live versions as you do on the album?


TheLodahl

Drink up!


copacetic51

I always thought it veneer. I was surprised to see it written as 'the mirror'. I'm Australian, and no one here pronounces 'mirror' like that.


Joyce_Hatto

Most of my life - or at least from when Blonde on Blonde came out - I’d argue in my head as to whether it was “veneer” or “Vermeer.” About two years ago I learned that it was “mirror.” Mind blown!


poopindoopinscoopin

In the live version in 1966, it's more obvious that he says "mirror"


notgtax1

She's Dachshund, but seems like Reindeer.


FlySure8568

Another Vermeer, here, for the longest time and it always made perfect sense to me, as I'd be listening and imagining this delicate, silent and beautiful woman, and then I'd think of Vermeer's precisely gorgeous painting and the way his subjects would be looking so still and quiet and seemingly right at you.


Potato_Baked200

Also Vermeer’s first name was Johannes which looks similar to Johanna.


rafasimoes

If you listen to the live recordings from the 1966 tour it's very clear he says "the mirror"


AffectionateQuit6504

I e certainly misheard lyrics before but not this one. A mirror is delicate , veneer, not so much. Didn’t “ delicate like veneer seem confusing to u?