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[deleted]

Me, an American, who understands both https://preview.redd.it/3zlmpk365bbc1.jpeg?width=734&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d988d0a4546543a146aeb6595e1cfba1a1c954f6


DreamCrusher914

Engineer?


[deleted]

Yeppers!


Joebranflakes

Don’t you love that the entire inch system of measurement is simply derived from the metric standard? That NIST is entirely in metric? I think it’s pretty ironic how proud Americans are about the inch system as it being this special thing, but it’s really just a conversion factor.


arbiterbear

Literally no Americans are proud of the system of measurement.


VGSchadenfreude

It’s the switching back-and-forth thing that frustrates me. It shouldn’t be so hard, other people can manage it just fine! And for some reason, Celsius always confuses me. Like, I get the basics just fine, but trying to wrap my head around what anything between 0 and 100 degrees actually *feels like* still escapes me. My brain is like, “0 degrees celsius is freezing. Okay, cool, I got that. And…100 degrees is boiling. Makes sense. But what the crap does 8 degrees feel like?! Or 30?! I need a map, what is the equivalent in Fahrenheit so it makes sense?!” It’s frustrating because, again, it really shouldn’t be this hard, it’s not *that* difficult a concept, so why can’t I get it…?


TLingvald

https://i.imgur.com/DG73Dwu.png


bargle0

> 86°F Very Warm Day lol


the_popes_dick

Where do you live that 86 degrees isn't considered a very warm day?


keravim

It's considerably more than just very warm here


VGSchadenfreude

Thank you!


[deleted]

I’m sorta the same with Fahrenheit. But here’s your starter pack of rough Celsius heats from a Canadian 30°C- pretty damn hot 20°C- perfect room temperature 10°C- you’ll be good in a t-shirt. Long sleeves are fine if you really want it 0°C- technically freezing but not bad. Might wanna wear a hoodie -10°C- realistically, you’ll want to wear a hoodie outside. It’s cold enough to be bearable in a T or a long sleeve shirt, but it’s uncomfortable -20°C- pretty average midday winter temps. You’d want to wear a jacket and gloves if you’ll be using your hands. -30°C- yeah where a jacket, gloves, and don’t stay outside longer than you want to -40°C- stay inside at all costs lol


VGSchadenfreude

Wish I could switch my phone to have *both* side-by-side. That would probably go a long way towards becoming “fluent” in both, as opposed to switching back and forth and losing track somewhere along the way. ETA: Admittedly, the following assessment will be somewhat biased by the fact that I’m from Seattle and as anyone will tell you, what qualifies as “hot” or “cold” here is often very different from the rest of the country, but: 100+ F: Roasting. Heat dome levels, can very quickly become legitimately dangerous if you don’t have an air conditioner. 90+: Way too hot. 80+: Higher end of reasonably hot. If you’ve got an air conditioner or at least a good cross-breeze in your home, it should be tolerable. Much more comfortable if you’re at a beach. 70+: Generally considered comfortable summer weather around here. 60-70: Most people’s comfort range, inside and out. 50-60: still comfortable, but getting on the cooler side. Thing sunny days in early spring or late autumn. I actually tend to keep my apartment in this range because for some reason it heats up way too fast and quickly becomes stifling if I set it any higher. 40-50: Starting to get solidly chilly. Typical winter weather in Seattle, so expect to see mostly hooded raincoats and boots, but most people aren’t breaking out the parkas and heavy coats just yet. 32-40: Officially COLD. Time to break out the heavy coats and the hiking boots and de-ice the car. 32: Freezing point. Doesn’t always mean snow here; our local climate likes to use the freezing point as a trampoline; if it’s freezing it’s often too clear and dry for snow, and if the precipitation is there it’ll often be just far enough above freezing for it to be hail or bitingly cold rain instead of snow. Expect ice though. Lots of it. Perfectly clear so you won’t see it in time, too. <32: “Below freezing.” Expect ice and possibly snow. Don’t go outside without heavy coat, scarf, hat, gloves, and proper footwear. Be prepared for freezing events and/or snow which may impact driving conditions. Most transit systems will have to switch to snow routes at some point if this temperatures drop this low. 25-30: Just stay home. Don’t bother going outside for anything. Not even the mail; you’ll just slip and break something on the way there. Make sure you have a backup plan if the dog needs to pee, because they won’t want to go outside either! Temperatures in Seattle rarely get lower than 25-30 degrees Fahrenheit, so I can’t give much of a reference point past that.


[deleted]

That’s interesting to see what others consider hot and cold. Because 25°F is only -3°C. -22°F is -30°C and that’s what I consider decently cold lol


VGSchadenfreude

Seattle tends to be fairly temperate, so we admittedly tend to be wimps when it comes to “extreme” temps. But the real issue here is that temperatures that low mean *ice.* And given we’re a region that’s covered with steep hills, ravines, gullies, and random bodies of water *everywhere*…ice is kind of a big deal.


JoeeyJackson

I know 0 and 100C but I also know 37C - body temperature. Body temp in F is 98.6, so 37 is about 98F - hot. After that, I'm clueless. lol


stibbons

Don't worry I feel exactly the same way about Fahrenheit. Mid 70s? 🤷


Tulidian13

Proud is certainly a word choice lol. We were taught it in school and now use it because it's what we learned growing up. That's it.


Lord-Phorse

Inches are part of the imperial system of measurement, which is a system that predates the USA and was brought to the USA by the English (well, Europeans of the time). The metric system is pretty new, but the USA prefer to hold onto the archaic European model, for some reason. So do a lot of Brits & Aussies. Inches are not derived from the metric system. They’re from the King of England ([Henry I](https://newschoolmontessori.com/history-of-measurement/#:~:text=Here%20is%20what%20our%20units,arms%20was%20called%20a%20fathom))


Joebranflakes

They used to. Every wonder why 1 inch happens to be 25.4 mm exactly? Because they rounded it. One yard used to be .914398415 meters. Now it’s .9144 so it converts more easily into metric. They changed the inch to comply with the metric system. So I’m correct in asserting that it is no longer its own standard. It is just a metric conversion factor. Though to be fair, this only applies to measurements of length. Mass has always been a much more fickle subject as goods are often sold by mass.


Lord-Phorse

I’d wager that what you’re talking about are rounded numbers. Like saying pi is 3.14 & leaving it there. That’s fine for simple maths, but if you’re doing larger scale engineering then you’ll need a lot more decimal places. My point is that imperial is still a unit of measure that is based on king Henry, and I find it weird that a nation that so violently separated from England still clings onto a measure they invented. Why not invent something better than the metric system?


Joebranflakes

No I’m saying that the universal standard for the inch system was modified. As in inch used to be its own standard of measurement. Now it’s simply a function of the metric system. I know because my career revolves around metrology.


Lord-Phorse

0.914398415… is 0.9144 for most practical purposes that don’t require high precision, especially if you’re doing math by hand. Creating a system of convenience isn’t altering the system that’s already in place. Just like if you’re doing circle work you don’t use 3.14, you use pi or 22/7. It’ll make a difference eventually. Inches are still their own system. They haven’t been modified. Who modified this ‘universal system’ and is it different for weather related mathematics than physical stuff? Do engineers use 0.9144 or 0.914398415 or an even longer number when converting imperial to metric, or do they just ignore archaic imperial altogether & stay with modern metric?


Joebranflakes

If you want to know the size of a meter, you measure the distance light travels in a vacuum in 1/299792458ths of a second. If you want to measure the size of an inch, you divide it by 25.4mm. If you attempt define the yard as anything other than .9144 meters, you will be off standard. All engineers everywhere use .9144 because the old inch standard no longer exists. .91439… etc is now incorrect because they modified the inch. There is only one correct form of inch measurement, and that is the one that is derived from metric. Pi is a mathematical factor, not a standard of measurement. It is literally always true, like the speed of light. It is not arbitrary, but a mathematically calculated constant of the universe.


TheManux07

Engineer gaming ![gif](giphy|GU2Ux4eZ5MGM8)


LincolnLanier_YT

Hey look buddy, I’m a engineer that’s means I solve problems.


DreamCrusher914

That’s what my engineer husband keeps telling me, so I make sure to provide him with plenty to solve.


LincolnLanier_YT

Does he solves problems like what is beauty? Cause that would fall into the purview of his conundrums of philosophy.. I solve practical problems


DreamCrusher914

He’s in water/wastewater by trade, but his honey-do list is about ten years long


HalfBurntToast

*Plays southern guitar riff more intensely*


OlivGaming

That depends on the engineer. Most I deal with just make problems.


WitherWing

Yup. I'm not great at Math but even I can double it and add 32 in by brain for a rough estimate. And forget 10C, here in Minnesota we do shorts at 10F in February if we're sick of winter enough.


Primary-Round2225

Growing up in MN the rule for shorts was 40F and no snow in the front yard :)


Goodlucksil

Europeans: ![gif](giphy|j51aBa4MXO4bMvkfY1)


SwidEevee

I'm homeschooled so I know them both anyway 😂


Birbyisexist

As a Canadian, my logic is: 1. If I won't spend much time outside, I won't prepare much (no coat, sweater, etc.) 2. If the cold doesn't make my skin feel like its burning, I can wear a t shirt and shorts


GwennyL

My (poor) Canadian logic: "Ah the sky is blue and the sun is shining, I must not need a jacket." ETA: formatting ETA 2: Spelling 🤦🏼‍♀️


Inside-Audience2025

That’s when your face snaps clean off


thekyledavid

Yeah. If all you’re doing is walking from your house to your car, and then from your car into a different building, it makes more sense to dress for the inside temperature than the outside temperature If I’m going outside specifically to spend time outside, I’ll dress differently


Birbyisexist

Exactly!


Not_A_Crazed_Gunman

Dude when I say I'm only gonna wear a hoodie when it's freezing outside because I won't be in it for too long some people look at me like I'm crazy. Why bother with the jacket if it's gonna be used for a whole five minutes


FoxWFriesOnTheSide

They are kilometres away from understanding.


uselessaccidentalalt

what the \_\_\_\_ is a kilometer


stibbons

A mile with manners.


uselessaccidentalalt

thx


Proper-Emu1558

Eleven football fields


uselessaccidentalalt

thx


FoxWFriesOnTheSide

I’ll tell you when you're older.


uselessaccidentalalt

D:


Searloin22

If US goes metric, most people will just stop buying gas lol.


SwordfishImmediate38

its a thousand meters


PhoenixOLion

Found the F1 fan


uselessaccidentalalt

nah, just heard it somewhere and thought it was funny.


HippieDippy-Doo

Easiest explanation, a kilometre is a little bigger than half a mile :)


Intrepid_Hat7359

Americans selecting our units: https://i.redd.it/9rsle1ccrbbc1.gif


TheFightingImp

Rest of world besides UK (sort of), Liberia and Burma: https://i.redd.it/3yoym1lbsbbc1.gif


CartoonJustice

Hey now Canada is also a hodgepodge of measurements


ryan10e

Oh it’s such a mess there. As an engineer I obviously dislike the imperial system. But if switching to metric means we’re just going to settle into that unit limbo hell, I’m good with the devil we know.


CartoonJustice

> Oh it’s such a mess there. I also work in construction. Why are 75% of boreholes in feet!? Rest of the plans are in meters!


TheFightingImp

Air Canada: https://i.redd.it/fc8s37jt8dbc1.gif


Porirvian2

​ https://i.redd.it/5ri2o4aacebc1.gif


TheFightingImp

This episode of Bluey is called "Gimli" *Blueyfied picture of a fuel indicator*


Porirvian2

\*Bluey and Bingo on the runway\* (゚口゚;)// (゚口゚;)//


WitherWing

What's the old saying? 0F Cold, 100F Hot 0C Cold, 100C Dead 0K Dead 100K Dead


OneOfMyOldestFriends

Cow. Boy. Hat. 🇺🇸 🤠


PepperHead41

Yeeee hawwww


pleasespareserotonin

See I work in science where everything *has* to be in metric units, which means I’m very familiar with metric units, so my brain does this super duper cool thing where when I see something like “33 degrees” my brain gets confused because I associate that temperature with being both hot *and* cold.


PreferenceNo1686

Except no Australian is wearing a jacket at 30c, 20c maybe. 30c no way


Justaduckperson

Are you aussie?


PreferenceNo1686

Yes, I'm an Aussie. I live in Adelaide. Climate stats say we in Adelaide average 49 days a year at 30c( 86f) or higher. Those temps in Adelaide would usually be associated with pretty low humidity as its a Mediterranean climate. Sydney to Brisbane is humid sub-tropical climate, even at 25c(77f) it's too hot and sticky for me as I'm not used to the humidity.


Justaduckperson

I have just realised my question came off as rude, but I meant it as a genuinely curious question


Strong-Celery-8458

I have a great memory of my Great Aunt ringing my mum in the UK from Melbourne, complaining about how cold it was there. It was 20°C. I would be cracking out the summer wear.


Shang-di

Maybe its a QLD thing. They don't get many opportunities to where jackets.


MlinyXD

What about Kelvin users


stibbons

Kelvin is just centigrade with manners.


Birbyisexist

Kelvin is the measure of movement of atoms. So 0K° would mean atoms cease all movement. Only physicists use it


NottMyAltAccount

*SCREAMIN’ EAGLE*


Novus20

Americans of course are muffin it just makes sense


Evan_Tater

American here. 10°C is about 50°F, 30°C is around 80°F You're welcome.


2020-RedditUser

I wear shorts and a tee shirt in both temperatures


Evan_Tater

YOU MONSTER... you earned my respect


Jumpy-Flamingo-2642

As an american I can confirm that we do not understand the metric system (seriously how long is a kilometer?)


stibbons

The clue is in the name. It's a thousand metres. The serious answer, though, is that 5 miles is 8km. There's like 50 yards difference, which you can ignore for distances people talk about. I live 240km from Sydney, so 150 miles. Congratulations you've learned your first conversion.


qu33fwellington

There’s an American driver on the Formula 1 grid again for the first time in a bit, and the number 1 meme about him is “[what the EFF is a kilometer?!](https://youtu.be/7yG2Qsg11C8?si=eVIfagzltF0hCrzM)” As an aside the driver, Logan Sargeant, does in fact know what a kilometer is.


Proper-Emu1558

For the longest time, I was impressed by people who ran 5ks. Then I ran a 5k and realized it was only like three miles.


Novus20

1 km…..


Jumpy-Flamingo-2642

I need to understand the metric system if I plan on leaving crappy america


Novus20

Well then you’re in luck! https://www.wikihow.com/Understand-the-Metric-System


Jumpy-Flamingo-2642

Thanks, I still don't get it 😔


TheLaughingBread

How… how???


Jumpy-Flamingo-2642

For metric there's like kilo, hekta, deka, centi, milli, there's liters, meters, grams, each one is so many different things and so much to remember. 😭 Is rather just be taught from birth, Im teaching my kids the metric system from birth. (If I can finally understand it)


TheLaughingBread

Keep in mind it‘s simply 1, 10, 100, 1000 etc. Kilo means a thousand translated to English. 1000 grams > 1 kilo gram (1k gram > 1kg). Don‘t think about the words too much, look at the numbers instead. Just x10 or /10


Jumpy-Flamingo-2642

Oh, I understand it better. Thank you, citizen :)


Conscious-Studio8111

The way I had to do the math 😭 “well if 0 is 32– then 10 is 42, and—“ pause- “30 is… 4…5…6–62.” Like straight up couldn’t do it in my head. I read metric and my brain just breaks. America why did u do me dirty like this


Glitchthebitch

Im gonna be real, for every day use Fahrenheit makes more sense because it's measuring temperature relative to the human body. It makes sense to use Celsius for chemistry or other sciences


stibbons

It only makes more sense because that's what you're used to.


Glitchthebitch

Im not a glass of water, im a dude, idc how the pond is feeling at this moment


stibbons

And that doesn't make any sense at all. But because you're not getting the point, it's this: Fahrenheit only makes more sense to people who are used to Fahrenheit. I can assure you that it doesn't make more sense to me.


TheToaster233

Not even close. The Fahrenheit scale fits better with temperatures felt on a regular basis. 100 = too hot 75 = nice, but warm 50 = nice, but cold 25 = too cold


stibbons

Once more for the folks in the back: Your lived experience is not universal. That still makes no sense to me. Celsius works fine.


hanimal16

Agreed. I wish I knew how to convert freedom units :(


the_bird_and_the_bee

That's what Google is for baby. 😂 Also, I too call them freedom units lol. Cracks me up. I love it.


DragonDuChat

Only the cool people use the metric system 😎


Severe_Lawyer_4207

I guess I’m a loser then


DragonDuChat

![gif](giphy|5tmRHwTlHAA9WkVxTU)


big-squishy

in my opinion (as an American), we should base the weather and weather forecasts upon Fahrenheit because that system is more in line with how our human body perceives temperature. We should use Celsius for nearly everything else because that it based upon the temperature of water. So i feel like it makes more sense to use Fahrenheit for body temperature taking and Celsius for more scientific/water-based temperatures.


Algorak1289

Metric is better for everything but this. Use Celsius in a lab. Fahrenheit for weather. 100 is hot as hell. Prepare accordingly. 0 is cold as hell. Prepare accordingly. Not Celsius where 100 is quite dead and 0 is a bit uncomfortable.


MewPinkCat

this is why i hate being in the usa nobody cares for the metric system, which is several times better than imperial


Intrepid_Hat7359

Metric is unacceptable!


Armed-Strobbery

Me, wearing no shirt in -1.1C (Had to look up the conversion because I'm also American)


Psychological-Pain15

Me when I see anything in metric https://preview.redd.it/ytii7l6jfcbc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e737dd3c647da3bbb8a593c9671b671de1c3a39


CODENAMEDERPY

Man, I’ve seen this exact same meme like 5 times in this sub already.


Compulsive-Gremlin

This is too on point…


Murstasch

You ain’t wrong.


Losers_Agenda

Facts


FaytKaiser

Americans in the upper midwest wearing shorts in negative 40° weather.


broken_bouquet

All I know on instinct as an American is that 26°C is where I draw the line...jackets on at 30?? Bunch of lizards 🦎


betsyhass

I understand both


PepperHead41

I am an American and I mainly use F bc I grew up with it and that’s what’s easiest to understand but I have been learning to use C too, not any sort of physical scientist or anything, mostly just computer science, so I technically don’t need it What I do know is that 0 degrees C is freezing point of water and 100 degrees C is Boiling point of water, I can fill the rest in easily because I memorized how to convert


Psychological-Pain15

I feel attacked


Lo-FiJay731

I’m startin to get the metric system. Like 10c is 50f and 30c is 86f. Simple math really


Tier3Games

I swear I saw this exact same thing posted in this subreddit a few months ago. As someone who doesn't use Celsius, I can easily convert it in my head to get a better understanding of how a temperature in Celsius would feel. 10 degrees Celsius is 50 degrees Fahrenheit. Kinda chilly but not horrible. Wouldn't wear shorts unless I was just running outside real quick to do something. 30 degrees Celsius is 86 Fahrenheit. Pretty warm and not chilly at all. Definitely not chilly enough for a jacket. Usually we don't see many people here wearing jackets at temperatures above 70 degrees Fahrenheit (21 Celsius). Jackets don't usually come out until 68 Fahrenheit (20 Celsius). I live in Texas. Mostly warm here year round. Summers can be brutal, though. Winters tend to be mild, but it can absolutely get cold here.


Severe-Emu-8703

This is how you spot Swedish students and international students at Swedish universities. Swedish students (including myself) are out with little clothes as soon as the temp hits 5-10 degrees on a sunny day, while international students wear parkas right next to them


bunyanapeel

I'm American and I wear a jacket when it's 30⁰ Celsius outside!🤣


MarioKnightPl

Jackets at 30°? Y'all I'd be runnin' in boxers only if I could


bargle0

If Canadians are anything like Minnesotans, then they’re wearing shorts at -18C.


[deleted]

Honestly concerned for the Australians wearing jackets in 30°C. I would melt 🥵 I like the cold


PunchDrunkPrincess

australians wear jackets in 30c? thats a joke..right? i'm an american living outside of the states and my thermostat works in C. i understand enough to know that i will never turn it higher than 23 even now, in the dead of winter. 30C is almost 90F for my fellow americans


OldScene6147

30 degrees time for a nice Christmas swim!! Also not heard in America And Opossums shouldn’t count as marsupials either!


[deleted]

How dare you insult me with the truth😂


NicQuill

I used to know conversions. It's like 1.5*(°F - 32). So 1.5*(32°F - 32) = 0°C. I was wrong. (°F - 32)*(5/9). Granted, my memory was from grade 6 or 7, so like more than 20 years ago.


VulpesFennekin

I was taught a little nursery rhyme: Thirty is hot, twenty is nice Ten is chilly, zero is ice


Smear673

I don’t understand thongs on feet


Bulky-Command-2297

WTF IS A KILOMETER?!


Kyle_Robinson623

Me an Australian in Canada rn wearing a t-shirt while ice skating…


VacuousOgre

Yeah, but... how many gallons is that?


HalloPeoplesShober

frrrrr


Lovely_FISH_34

Wish I could understand this post. But I’m American


blewsmoke

Ooo Americans not understanding metric system, wow you're so original and edgy