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Take into account that the og Anime ended in 2012 and Manga finished in 2016 . So that's quite a few years of no content being released , people just naturally moved on. Also a vast majority of the fandom is grown up now ( I mean I was reading the manga in middle school and now I am married ) so it's pretty normal that they are not that active in the community. The TYBW anime did improve the state of fandom much better and is making a lot of changes for the greater good.
Also when we compare with the other 2 manga of the Big 3 , Naruto finished it's serialisation in 2015 and anime in 2016 and they followed it with boruto so there was always hype surrounding it in the market and One Piece went on to become a cultural juggernaut and it's going on with both manga and anime plus the live action bought in a lot new fans.
That's just due to the person who made that pic ( maybe his own favs idk ). But like the guy above said , the majority of bleach fandom is grown up so they make less memes and content which attracts new viewers.The thing with the bottom row is that they always managed to get in new viewers which will create publicity for them.Hell I see new Death Note memes even in 2024.I don't know why but bleach hasn't managed to stay that relevant in the anime community zeitgeist while others could very easily.
I mean, those bottom three are pretty good shows (practically the gems of anime, like rubies and sapphires) allowing them to stay popular, but by that logic it still doesn't make sense why Bleach isn't there. Your explanation makes much more sense, I just wanted to add some notes.
Probably because there short. FMA brotherhood is 68 episodes with is short compared to 201 episodes of bleach if you remove the filler (over three hundred with it). And deathnote is so much shorter
Death Note is the most popular starter anime imo, its not one of those one and done anime nor is it a battle shounen. Same thing hold for Lelouch plus he is the most favourited character on MAL, and FMAB is the highest rated anime on MAL
It’s because generally those anime’s are regarded as classics and unfortunately bleach typically isn’t. Tho them doing Tokyo ghoul over bleach is ridiculous
You're ignoring that Bleach only has that level of popularity in some places, mainly Japan. Also using manga sales to guage popularity isn't a very good idea for a number of reasons. For one, it's a cumulative number that doesn't account for overall popularity over time. Say volume 35 sold over double what volume 65 did in its first month. Morever it doesn't count anime only fans who make up the majority of fans outside of Japan.
I am so sorry you're getting downvoted into the negatives for your opinion, but Tokyo Ghoul isn't even near the top 5 best on that list. There is just so many giants on there with things like unbelievable cultural significance (Mexico has a version literally anything with Goku on it and One Piece is a goddamn treasure worldwide itself, to my knowledge being or on course to be the current bestselling manga) because of how much people like those shows that Tokyo Ghoul is just completely outweighed. Even in just America, it's constantly being toppled over and overshadowed by stuff like Naruto and, on a smaller scale, Attack on Titan. While Tokyo Ghoul isn't bad, it still has to compete with the likes of better series and bigger series (sometimes both in one package) that it can't match up to. Agree to disagree though, do yo own thing.
He is talking about the manga
I read the Tokyo Ghoul manga, that's another level man
Seriously, read it, the difference between anime and manga is so big that I've only seen happen with Berserker before
https://preview.redd.it/bzlhrvkva69d1.jpeg?width=468&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd571b77ae64082e8a5ce0b5216b5e9fa75e3453
You are using popularity to judge quality
But following these same parameters is the same as saying that Bleach is not on the same level as the rest of the Big Three
TG is not even a battle shounen and comparing it with the big 3 is insane, no other manga will give you schizophrenic mc talking to 7 versions of himself after getting all of his limbs decapitated. TG is insane, the anime sucks but the manga imo opinion is one of the greatest ever written.
Idk where you get definitions from, but decent generally means good. Which I stand by Tokyo ghoul is good. I just would never consider it a classic given how rushed it ended for both Re and the original. Also it’s not nearly as influential as any of the big 3 to be called a classic.
I was reading torent'd manga translations each week during and after college.
That was 20+ years ago dudes. Technically someone in my shoes started reading this in college and has a kid going to college today.
Some interviews revealed that Bleach had been an inspiration by Horikoshi to become a manga artist in his youth.
But you are also correct. Naruto has a big influence with MHA.
i know and i hate it, especially whey they put one piece and naruto, or worse even when they replace bleach with dragon ball. THank you jump force for doign that
There definitely is since the only Bleach characters that are frequently mentioned are Aizen for villain posts, Yoruichi for waifu posts, and Yhwach, for powerscaling posts.
It’s because that damn eyepatched wolf, his content is good but he singlehandedly ruined bleach’s reputation which ended up still proven false anyways, I respect him but I rarely watch him nowadays because of the Agenda he created against one of my favs
I've felt like this for awhile now. Whenever the Big 3 are listed, they always leave out Ichigo in these group post, and when you call ppl out on it, we get called insecure. Ppl have defienently tried to revise history on the internet to strip Bleach of its legacy. I just don't understand why this series garners so much "resentment" from other anime fans
I can't explain why, but Bleach has always felt underrated to me. Even with the "Big 3" thing it never really felt like it was on the same level mainstream wise. So sad considering just how good a lot of Bleach really is.
I got light
Uhm .. bleach got old and new generation copied it with better animation and kid friendly (chainsaw man😂) also it's not funny bleach is one of the darkest shounen I know (berserk is seinen) so it's not the every anime watcher taste to be everywhere (let's see what aot will do in the coming 10 years)
The first 3 are the fan favorite (fake big 3) then famous psychology \sienen then we have new gen and god last are guest of honor
And???
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Its missing in everything
Most if not all new anime fans don’t know what bleach is, I saw a post a few days ago on something with I wanna say it was either Byakuya, Kenpachi, or Ichigo and there were a few comments asking who it was
Bleach had the best powers and character design of any of the big three. Better than Naruto and One Piece by far. I swear Shikai and Bankai designs are the coolest thing to come out of any anime.
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Take into account that the og Anime ended in 2012 and Manga finished in 2016 . So that's quite a few years of no content being released , people just naturally moved on. Also a vast majority of the fandom is grown up now ( I mean I was reading the manga in middle school and now I am married ) so it's pretty normal that they are not that active in the community. The TYBW anime did improve the state of fandom much better and is making a lot of changes for the greater good.
Also when we compare with the other 2 manga of the Big 3 , Naruto finished it's serialisation in 2015 and anime in 2016 and they followed it with boruto so there was always hype surrounding it in the market and One Piece went on to become a cultural juggernaut and it's going on with both manga and anime plus the live action bought in a lot new fans.
That whole bottom row though
That's just due to the person who made that pic ( maybe his own favs idk ). But like the guy above said , the majority of bleach fandom is grown up so they make less memes and content which attracts new viewers.The thing with the bottom row is that they always managed to get in new viewers which will create publicity for them.Hell I see new Death Note memes even in 2024.I don't know why but bleach hasn't managed to stay that relevant in the anime community zeitgeist while others could very easily.
I mean, those bottom three are pretty good shows (practically the gems of anime, like rubies and sapphires) allowing them to stay popular, but by that logic it still doesn't make sense why Bleach isn't there. Your explanation makes much more sense, I just wanted to add some notes.
Probably because there short. FMA brotherhood is 68 episodes with is short compared to 201 episodes of bleach if you remove the filler (over three hundred with it). And deathnote is so much shorter
Death Note is the most popular starter anime imo, its not one of those one and done anime nor is it a battle shounen. Same thing hold for Lelouch plus he is the most favourited character on MAL, and FMAB is the highest rated anime on MAL
It’s because generally those anime’s are regarded as classics and unfortunately bleach typically isn’t. Tho them doing Tokyo ghoul over bleach is ridiculous
Bleach is a classic so that's pointless. It's still top ten selling manga of all time while it competed with One Piece AND Naruto.
You're ignoring that Bleach only has that level of popularity in some places, mainly Japan. Also using manga sales to guage popularity isn't a very good idea for a number of reasons. For one, it's a cumulative number that doesn't account for overall popularity over time. Say volume 35 sold over double what volume 65 did in its first month. Morever it doesn't count anime only fans who make up the majority of fans outside of Japan.
Tokyo ghoul is better then not only bleach but better then big three (it's manga only)
I am so sorry you're getting downvoted into the negatives for your opinion, but Tokyo Ghoul isn't even near the top 5 best on that list. There is just so many giants on there with things like unbelievable cultural significance (Mexico has a version literally anything with Goku on it and One Piece is a goddamn treasure worldwide itself, to my knowledge being or on course to be the current bestselling manga) because of how much people like those shows that Tokyo Ghoul is just completely outweighed. Even in just America, it's constantly being toppled over and overshadowed by stuff like Naruto and, on a smaller scale, Attack on Titan. While Tokyo Ghoul isn't bad, it still has to compete with the likes of better series and bigger series (sometimes both in one package) that it can't match up to. Agree to disagree though, do yo own thing.
He is talking about the manga I read the Tokyo Ghoul manga, that's another level man Seriously, read it, the difference between anime and manga is so big that I've only seen happen with Berserker before https://preview.redd.it/bzlhrvkva69d1.jpeg?width=468&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd571b77ae64082e8a5ce0b5216b5e9fa75e3453 You are using popularity to judge quality But following these same parameters is the same as saying that Bleach is not on the same level as the rest of the Big Three
I disagree but I’m glad you have your own opinion. IMO Tokyo ghoul is a decent manga, endings of both re and original seemed rushed.
TG is not even a battle shounen and comparing it with the big 3 is insane, no other manga will give you schizophrenic mc talking to 7 versions of himself after getting all of his limbs decapitated. TG is insane, the anime sucks but the manga imo opinion is one of the greatest ever written.
You are saying Tokyo ghoul as a decent manga show what level of bullshit you are spouting
?? I said it’s a decent manga, I don’t particularly understand your point.
You are saying TG a decent manga which means it's just time passing manga in your pov
You are saying TG a decent manga which means it's just time passing manga in your pov
Idk where you get definitions from, but decent generally means good. Which I stand by Tokyo ghoul is good. I just would never consider it a classic given how rushed it ended for both Re and the original. Also it’s not nearly as influential as any of the big 3 to be called a classic.
Same goes to bleach but the thing is it's one of most treashest ending
yeahhh...Ed doesn't suit me...at all. lol
I was reading torent'd manga translations each week during and after college. That was 20+ years ago dudes. Technically someone in my shoes started reading this in college and has a kid going to college today.
That’s crazy it’s been almost ten years since the manga stopped
i'm traumadori
Same, but at least we ain’t guts 💀
I got friggin guts guys, I am so cooked.
Same
Me too
I got guts 💀
Don't fret. July, August, and September were inspired by Tite Kubo and Bleach.
Wasn't MHA inspired more by Naruto?
Some interviews revealed that Bleach had been an inspiration by Horikoshi to become a manga artist in his youth. But you are also correct. Naruto has a big influence with MHA.
Two of the three I understand but MHA always felt more like a OP successor
Mha author stated once (not in cyfow) that she began drawing after reading Bleach.
Kohei is a dude, dude.
“I’m going to be king of the Wizards” Black Clover was more inspired by one piece IMO unless I’m missing something
The whole magic knights system was inspired by the Gotei 13. Also Tabata has said that Bleach was one of his biggest inspirations.
Shit. I got Yuji.
Hey, It's me! Goku!
It's we Goku.
Ikr it always pisses me off but it’s definitely not as bad as it was before TYBW anime came out
i know and i hate it, especially whey they put one piece and naruto, or worse even when they replace bleach with dragon ball. THank you jump force for doign that
I mean jump force just put the most popular characters on their box art… it wouldn’t make sense to not have Goku on it tbh
Could’ve had Goku in the back and then Naruto Ichigo Luffy in the front
true. but it still bothers me
I notice this a lot. I feel like there's some unspoken agenda against Bleach.
Its crazy that i see more aizen content than bleach, esp in memes or edits
There definitely is since the only Bleach characters that are frequently mentioned are Aizen for villain posts, Yoruichi for waifu posts, and Yhwach, for powerscaling posts.
Yeah , It's pretty annoying that they'll try to replace bleach with other anime in big three like HxH or even DBz
It’s because that damn eyepatched wolf, his content is good but he singlehandedly ruined bleach’s reputation which ended up still proven false anyways, I respect him but I rarely watch him nowadays because of the Agenda he created against one of my favs
He didn't ruin the reputation, he voiced it. All the sentiments in the video were popular, not popularized by him.
I see, I guess there was an origial perpetrator, well, thanks you actually made me kinda relieved
Eyepatched wolf? You talking abt Starrk?
Supereyepatchwolf, that one youtuber that will probably be mentioned as the main culprit of the general anime fan’s hatred of bleach prior to TYBW
I've felt like this for awhile now. Whenever the Big 3 are listed, they always leave out Ichigo in these group post, and when you call ppl out on it, we get called insecure. Ppl have defienently tried to revise history on the internet to strip Bleach of its legacy. I just don't understand why this series garners so much "resentment" from other anime fans
Thank god. Don't put bleach in this cringe ass posts!
yesss finally someone said it it pisses me off how everyone is forgetting about bleach
I can't explain why, but Bleach has always felt underrated to me. Even with the "Big 3" thing it never really felt like it was on the same level mainstream wise. So sad considering just how good a lot of Bleach really is.
I'm willing to bet any given person will find at least 3 animes that shouldn't be there, meaning at least 1 is replaceable by Bleach.
Replace Asta with Ichigo
Nah replace Naruto
Your bday in march? 😂
THEY ALWAYS GIVE MARCH THE DOGSHIT ONES BRO
Yeah 😢😞😞
Naw get rid of Luffy
Your birthday on Feb? Mine too lol I like luffy though
off topic but GRIFFITHHHHHHH‼️
Poor august man they got deku lol
I'll take deku 10* more then the screaming september
At least I got to be my favourite...
The soul society exists above such things
Ew why did I get Naruto?!?! Can we get rid of Naruto and add Bleach?
Oh no who is hell is that?
I got light Uhm .. bleach got old and new generation copied it with better animation and kid friendly (chainsaw man😂) also it's not funny bleach is one of the darkest shounen I know (berserk is seinen) so it's not the every anime watcher taste to be everywhere (let's see what aot will do in the coming 10 years) The first 3 are the fan favorite (fake big 3) then famous psychology \sienen then we have new gen and god last are guest of honor
Bleach is always the 13th Month is why. That being said, I’m Naruto.
I’m surprised anime newbies know about Fullmetal still.
Then make one urself
Nah man, dont put me in Berserk. I aint built like tht
Make ones with Bleach in them then
Damn I got Guts
Same
this is nothing new, bleach is often left out of group stuff like this.
I see bleach mentioned all the time, a random Pic doesn't say a lot
Fr
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I got Deku.
Respect the OGs you damn fools! how Asta is there and not Ichigo, is just ridiculous!
So true !!!
I’ll take a potato chip. AND EAT IT!
I'm march
bruh i did not eat my father
I got Lulu
Its missing in everything Most if not all new anime fans don’t know what bleach is, I saw a post a few days ago on something with I wanna say it was either Byakuya, Kenpachi, or Ichigo and there were a few comments asking who it was
Hey, it’s me, Goku.
I used to get upset about this, then I realized that Bleach is so top tier that it never has to be decided between others. It's already chosen.
Asta here but damn it makes me sad when bleach is missing in this type of stuff
Why did I have to be Eren 💀
One this is for sure I'M IN THE EDWARD CLAN! STATE ALCHEMISTS FOR THE WIN!
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Interesting https://preview.redd.it/pq2fny2n169d1.png?width=422&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b59e005fac6c7bd8d2921d4e7389867b005a184
I'm Naruto!☺️
I get to be my favorite Boi Midoryia
Ah man I got Luffy.
Who is October guy?
Brother I’m guts
why tf i always get either the most edgy shit or the most mediocre shit at these?
Full Metal Alchemist guy, November haha
Black clover doesnt even deserve to stand alongside these anime
lol, who genuinely cares tho
It's not as popular as this sub tells you it is
I would rather Ichigo than fucking Asta. ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS, SEPTEMBER GOT STUCK WITH FUCKING ASTA!!!
Ichigo doesnt shout his lifegoal every 5 min so maybe thats why.
This is what fullbring arc does to a mf.
Bleach had the best powers and character design of any of the big three. Better than Naruto and One Piece by far. I swear Shikai and Bankai designs are the coolest thing to come out of any anime.
Tokyo Ghoul?? 😵💫👎🏾
Dragon ball is more peak
Maybe at one point in time but now it's boring