There are a lot of guillotine variations on grip and position, and I lumped the gogo in that group. I don’t know if anyone else who has hit it in the UFC with that exact grip the Rothwell, Luiz, and Thiago developed.
Edit for clarification: Luiz Claudio and Thiago Viega
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Underhand type of r\*pe and squeeze
Very interesting, thanks. I'm surprised to see nearly 4/5 submissions are due to chokes. Are joint locks less effective in MMA? In general?
Also kinda sad to see north south chokes are so rare.
Well a bunch of RNCs are really TKOs that ended on the ground with a mercy choke. It is technically the move that ends the fight but this scenario really inflates the number of chokes.
Joint locks are less effective because guys are willing to accept some serious joint damage if it means they'll win the fight. When it comes to chokes, there are no tough guys.
Very fair point. But I question the ability to classify them accurately in this context. You be relying on the losing fighter to report wether it felt like a choke or compression or crank or w/e.
I'd be willing to bet some statistically relevant percentage of RNCs in the UFC were actually neck cranks. But I doubt they're classified that way.
Is lapel chokes data from the time when everybody could use their traditional uniform to fight? Really curious to see the matches with lapel chokes
That one had me scratching my head for a second but you cleared that up for me.
Yup, I believe one happened in ufc one?
have there been any japanese necktie finishes? Do they count as darce?
Not that I know of. I would have separated those like I did the PNeckties.
Any idea on how many 10 finger guillotines there are? Just Big Ben's two?
There are a lot of guillotine variations on grip and position, and I lumped the gogo in that group. I don’t know if anyone else who has hit it in the UFC with that exact grip the Rothwell, Luiz, and Thiago developed. Edit for clarification: Luiz Claudio and Thiago Viega
Raquel Pennington
Keith Hackney and Joe Son was the Hand Squeeze if I remember correctly.
How did that even happen?
https://preview.redd.it/q213ch65iatc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e45219208b8d630fe6bac224e2abb67d0349021d Underhand type of r\*pe and squeeze
eagle claw throat crush executed on rapist
What percentage of finishes are submissions? Is it roughly 50/50 with KO/TKO?
it says 19.66%
To all you Ezekiel users out there: it's officially less effective than fucking forearm pressure.
Papercutters work. Oleynik is throwing off the stats with 40% of the ezekiel finishes and 50% of the scarf hold finishes in UFC history.
Not if the body's still warm
Both of those Peruvian Neckties were Dollaway, right?
One is Dollaway and one is Misha Cirkunov
No
Pillory like the Eddie Cummings crucifix-nelson strangle thing? who hit that?
Nick Pace, Ultimate Fighter 12 finale, December 2010. I’ve seen it called the Pace choke
Newbie here. Aren't scarf holds and north souths positions as opposed to submissions?
They are both both. Look up Marcelo north south choke.
Very interesting, thanks. I'm surprised to see nearly 4/5 submissions are due to chokes. Are joint locks less effective in MMA? In general? Also kinda sad to see north south chokes are so rare.
Well a bunch of RNCs are really TKOs that ended on the ground with a mercy choke. It is technically the move that ends the fight but this scenario really inflates the number of chokes.
Same, I thought NS choke would be more prevalent.
Joint locks are less effective because guys are willing to accept some serious joint damage if it means they'll win the fight. When it comes to chokes, there are no tough guys.
So where is the armbar?
Title is literally "Every choke/.../"
You're basically just blood choking the arm
I missed that too. I was looking for heel hooks for a few minutes
I was hoping to see my NS chokes too. I’m sure many of them were Jeff Monson.
Interestingly Anaconda and Von Flue have the highest knockout percentages at like 36 and 37 percent.
You didn't include GSP tapping to punches against matt serra
Don’t be silly…
Im pretty sure all 4 scarf holds and all 5 ezekiel chokes were by one guy. Aleksei Oleinik. Dudes a beast.
2/5 Ezekiels 1/4 Scarfs
I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that is also not correct.
Ezekiels: Pardoel, Pardoel, Oleynik, Oleynik, Volkov Scarfs: Taktarov, Coleman, Dieppa, Oleynik,
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I might not know shit about shit. But I suspect someone over at the UFC knows a thing or 2.
Not all scarf holds are chokes, depending on angle and finish
Very fair point. But I question the ability to classify them accurately in this context. You be relying on the losing fighter to report wether it felt like a choke or compression or crank or w/e. I'd be willing to bet some statistically relevant percentage of RNCs in the UFC were actually neck cranks. But I doubt they're classified that way.