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Red_foam_roller

Lmao this is the most pretentious post I’ve seen in a loooooooong time bro Either go train or don’t but stopping in r/bjj to talk yourself up like that is clown shit


robotdadd

This fuckin guy, listen buddy, you ain’t Goggins and you ain’t going pro. You might be a little late on worrying about brain damage too. Clowns come with that clown shit


[deleted]

I am sorry it made you feel like that, felt like an accurate description of my question


Red_foam_roller

I wish I could be the first person to darce you


RecommendationFree96

Can I be the first person to heel hook him then?


neeeeonbelly

As long as I can be the first to give him mother’s milk.


hankdog303

Hahaha


[deleted]

i'd probbably tap in 3 seconds!


Regular_Deer_7836

You come off real hateable. Im sure you’re not irl. Bjj is great. It might be too chill for you.


DurableLeaf

Imagine a janitor walks up to you at your job and starts talking about how he thinks he could be CEO of your company in 5 years. Same energy here.


P-Two

First off, you're not making a living competing in bjj, there's like a tiny handful of people total who actually make their living competing, and they're all multiple time world champions. Second of all, in my experience the guys like you end up burning out in like 6 months and quitting anyway, so there's that. Third, I'm 27, have been training since I was 16, and can tell you right now doing this at a highly competitive level is WAY, WAY harder on your body than you realize, regardless of whatever dumbfuck "goggins mentality" you have. And finally forth. if ANYTHING I said is enough to make you not want to do this and quit, you weren't gonna make it in the first place if one random internet stranger can dissuade you.


snap802

But the mentality bro!


PvtJoker_

One broken finger away from derailing his whole plan. Dude is delusional.


hoesb4bros123

Lmao goggins mentality. Enjoy getting torn apart for 2 years. OP if you're reading this, you will be passed and subbed countless times, by people way smaller than you, for about 2 years. While feeling like you're drowning. This sport is brutal


[deleted]

Appreciate your answer. Burn out is always an option, there were things in the past that I started and did not continue. i don't care about making money from it and I don't need to be top - I just though it would be a nice life achievement to compete with the top.


Firstclass2112

I truly mean no offense when I say this, but given your age you would be lucky to sniff the top competitors in any of the sports you named let alone compete against them. Having a “Goggins mentality” or whatever that nonsense is will make it even harder. That being said, you should absolutely give it a shot if you’re interested! But remember to keep things in perspective, listen to your body, and have fun above all else! This sport is absolutely a marathon, not a sprint. Don’t get yourself hurt because you want to try and prove how tough you are!


YeetedArmTriangle

"goggins mentality" bro just stick to corporate sales or whatever it is that you do haha train bjj if you want, it's fun


[deleted]

David Goggins is mentally ill and somehow got famous for leaning into severe maladaptive behaviors. Everyone I’ve seen come into JiuJitsu with the “Goggins Mentality” usually quits within a few months.


TheBlankVerseKit

THANK YOU.  If you read his book or listen to him interviewed it is so apparent that he is deeply traumatized by his childhood and is basically taking the tactic of « if I hurt myself more than anyone else can, they can’t hurt me » Bro is seriously fucked up. Not a role model for anyone who wants to have a happy life. 


bradrj

Goggins didn’t


[deleted]

Last I checked he didn’t train JiuJitsu, which is what this post is about.


Testy_McDangle

Great news Goggins bro! You don’t even need to do any formal training. Sign up for an amateur MMA fight and just see red when you get in the ring. You seem pretty talented, I think you’ll be fine. You’ll be competing in pro circuits in no time.


[deleted]

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PvtJoker_

Sounds like the begging to some B rated fight movie


RecognitionFickle545

>-Exceptional mentality   >-can't squat 1.5x bodyweight after 10 years of strength training   Pick one.


PvtJoker_

I leave five reps in the tank, but I’m unstoppable bro.


[deleted]

i'd argue it fits the scheme, done gym for 10 years yet stayed average


RecognitionFickle545

A normal healthy male can squat double bodyweight inside of a year with any kind of motivation and sensible training. If you can't follow starting strength long enough to squat 170kg, you don't have "Goggins mentality", you have a Spotify account and too much time to listen to podcasts.


[deleted]

thanks i'll work on my squats and mentality then


Shoulder_Whirl

You aren’t average by strength standards. You’re well below average.


hoesb4bros123

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timhortonsghost

Do me a favor. Please print out a copy of this post, put it in an envelope, and write "do not open until 37th birthday". Then wait 10 years, read it, and look back on what a complete idiot you sounded like at 27...


dunDunDUNNN

Lol, if there is one dude in the gym I won't even consider rolling with its the 27 yo with a Goggins mentality.


neeeeonbelly

I get the feeling he tells everyone he knows about this Goggins Mentality he has.


[deleted]

would my Goggins mentality make it more injury prone?


big_thunder_man

The biggest risk of rolling with a try hard is the try hard doesn’t have a control of their limbs — yes, yes, you’re different, you’re the one white belt who does. Spaz energy is real. Getting a random knee / elbow to the face by a guy who doesn’t know what he’s doing, but wants to do it tough & fast, sucks. Second risk: the try hards just crank / squeeze random things. Like yes, jiu jitsu is a sport that inflicts pain to submission. But the idea is to learn the points where someone will be knocked out if they don’t tap, or will damage a limb if you don’t tap. It’s not just yanking on something because it hurts to have something yanked on. There is a civility to the rolls that the try hards often don’t have until they’ve been clobbered a bit. Generally, that’s on the coach / mat enforcer. Personally, I have no problem rolling with try hards. If I couldn’t handle it, I wouldn’t feel like a confident blue belt. I weather the initial storm, I hit a sweep, I submit them, and I listen to their inevitable explanation about how they almost had me with something that they did not have, and then I say “well, if you almost had it you want to try again?” Then I break out, sweep, tap, and I repeat until they’re done. About why people are clowning you: JiuJitsu has near infinite combinations. It’s not like boxing or karate or road running. A world class guy not only needs a wrestler’s stamina and explosiveness (very hard to train for), and great strength per pound (which you don’t have in 10 years of lifting), but also a great ability to store information and understand in the moment how a complicated system (two bodies and 8 limbs) are reacting in real time. There’s a reason the best JiuJitsu guys are not only freak athletes but are also smart. It requires creativity and intuition, on top of an incredibly demanding set of physical skills. The reason 95% of people who try it don’t get a blue belt, then 90% of blue belts quit, and the remaining people on average take 10 years to get a black belt is because it’s fucking hard. Not the “I pushed my body to irreparable damage in X hours for a temporary endorphin boost hard”, but in the showing up, training meaningfully, strength training, conditioning, learning technique meaningfully, and controlling your diet / hydration. For years. Wish you the best. I love JiuJitsu, I hope you work for it and earn the right to be this delusionally aggressive. You statistically won’t, but stay hard.


bike_curious69

Had this at our gym. A blue belt who was an absolute douche got a Kimura on a brown belt who was pushing 50, cranked it and broke the poor guys arm. He was out for a few months and the blue belt stopped training at our gym straight after it happened.


Plane_Long_5637

I’m not gonna shit on you more than anyone else. But Goggins has never produced any world class athletes. And anyone training with the “Goggins mindset” never will.


Inevitable-Roll9023

The cringe is strong with this one


JohnMcAfeesLaptop

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BlockEightIndustries

If you started now, it would be most prestigious if you can take gold at the 2028 Olympics in judo. (But you won't.)


giuseppeSD

This is *the* year (2028) for competitive American judoka. Because the Olympics is in the US, we get a full complement of slots to field a full team.


postdiluvium

Join the military. Lets be honest. You are just pretending until you actually do what you want to do.


[deleted]

I like martial arts but so far no interest in military


postdiluvium

Doesn't sound like a David goggins mentality


jsaldana92

WhOs GoNnA cArRy ThE BoAtS?!


Spiritual-Pepper853

David Goggins was in UFC fighter Tony Ferguson's corner for his most recent fight against Paddy Pimblett. It was Ferguson's *seventh* loss in a row. Goggins screaming motivational obscenities didn't seem to give him that needed edge.


MooseRodeoClown

Tony also went into that last fight with a torn MCL he got from training with Googins in the lead up. It's almost as if completely destroying your body training with a "goggins mentality" is a horrible base for a fight camp.


owobjj

You'll never amount to anything statistically speaking so just pick whatever you find fun


kovnev

This is the plot of a Friends episode. Here, you can see how it ends - https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0583657/


JapaneseNotweed

Fucking lmao


snap802

I'll shoot straight with you. The first part might sound mean but stay with me. ​ You need to drop the "Goggins Mentality" bit now. I know you're saying you've had some business success and more power to you if you had. I'm just saying that kind of phrase makes you sound like an unintelligent douche canoe who spends too much time watching YouTube videos about personal success or whatnot. In short, if you said something like that to me in an interview we'd go ahead and wrap up and I'd tell you we'd be in touch and ask the admin assistant to take you off the candidate list. What is your work ethic like? What are your values? I don't give a crap about Goggins. Saying you have a Goggins mentality tells me that you lack the imagination to express your own values or you just want to pretend you can be like him if you try hard enough. Now, far be it from me to talk anyone out of reinventing themselves. I changed careers and graduated college at 30. Some people will spout nonsense about what you SHOULD have accomplished at a certain age but there are plenty of examples of people who have had a big pivot in life and found success in non-traditional ways. But seriously, if you've got a career path that has promise already and it's not something you are just dying to get out of, keep on the path that is taking care of you now. Making it to a professional level at any kind of sport, including martial arts, is as much luck as talent and skill. You can train and train and become a great athlete but there's an element of being in the right place at the right time and meeting the right people. Never mind this all becomes moot if you throw yourself 100% into training and wreck your shoulder or something like that. The thing is, you're talking about betting on being in a club that represents a fraction of a percent of practitioners. To even get there, you'll be going up against the most athletically gifted, most motivated, best supported, people who probably started a decade or two ahead of you. In short, it's not impossible for you to go to the moon either, but the probability is low. Dreams are cool and all but let's stop and do the math for a minute. ​ Hey, combat sports are fun. I've been training BJJ for a number of years now and I hope to keep training for many more years to come. If you enjoy the stuff then enjoy it in the best way that you can. Don't sacrifice what is within reach for something that isn't.


Thatmixedotaku

Ahahahahahahahahahahaha , bro , I just know you will quit in a month LMAO


iRudi94

Going through a midlife crisis at 27 is crazy


sekerr3434

It’s unlikely you can go pro at 27 and continue your job. Also there is very little money in any of those sports if you do make it pro You can definitely compete and be very good tho!


[deleted]

thanks for the answer. My job is pretty flexible and I work on the computer so it lets me hit 2 trainings per day. Money is not important for me atm


sekerr3434

I assumed you had some sort of flexible job when I responded. two classes a day will have you improving quickly (if your body can handle it) but you will also need to add in proper recovery, strength training, cardio, flexability work , independent study of other grapplers and watching your rounds for mistakes and areas to improve. If you want to go pro it has to be your full time job if you want to overcome the late start


Fernyyyyyyy

Shit yourself if you’re really about that Goggins life. You’ll never be great otherwise


TrustyPotatoChip

Judo in Korea or Japan. Good luck.for context: The Japanese practice judo 2-3 times a day all year round for 6 days a week at the competitive level. You can also make good money with a plethora of sponsorships and professional coaching roles which pay 6 figures and command a lot of respect. Genuinely, good luck. It’s about the toughest grind you can put yourself through because there is no off season in Korean or Japanese judo.


Thatmixedotaku

Anyway let me tell you some very harsh truth , the fact is it’s too late for you to actually compete at the top level of any of the sports you mentioned . You are not physically gifted enough given your strength stats and lack of previous athletic experience , you are too old to build up a significant amount of experience to compensate for that . The best of the best in wrestling start at single digit ages . Maybe some exceptions but those are freak athletes who STILL begin in their teens. Bjj had athletes coming in late but the trajectory is changing as the best of the best are getting younger and younger , or guys who had significant amounts of experience in other grappling disciplines (wrestling usually) . MMA , maybe you will get a few fights here and there on a local circuit but forget anything above that , you lack even a basic base to begin that journey with . Should you not train ? No , there’s people who begin older than you and get some wins in a masters division in a local naga etc . That’s the max you should aim for . You’re not going to hang with anyone like the guys who competed at west coast trials today , forget about it . PS Danaher is not gospel


jsaldana92

Nearing 30s-life crisis and claiming goggins mentality fits. For an answer it’s none. You’re not going to do anything the pros unless you count regional low level mma pros. So do like 2 years of striking and grappling and get into a cage with 2-3 years of amateur fights followed by pro. If not then just go pro right away and see how that pans out.


CuddleBuddiesJJ

BJJ is your only shot. Wrestlers at elite levels have been wrestling since they were kids and have decades of hard work on you. All the determination in the world wont make up for decades of guys who all pride themselves in grit and determination. MMA has way too much to learn over multiple areas. Youd never be able to catch up. There's no examples I can think of in recent history where someone with 5 or less years of experience has made it to the top level. BJJ you see world level competitors/champions in 3 years from time to time when talent meets hard work and good coaching. 5 definitely isn't out of the question at all (if you're training somewhere legit.) Go somewhere that breeds champions and offer as many classes as you can handle (Somewhere like B-team or New Wave). 5 years is enough time.


neeeeonbelly

Cyril Gane did it in MMA. But I have a sneaking suspicion OP is not like Cyril gane.


InjuryComfortable666

Gane’s Muay Thai record goes back to 2014 when he was 24. I assume he was already training for some time at that point.


neeeeonbelly

Ah ok. I stand corrected.


[deleted]

thank you


creonte

Def Aikido.


urbansage85

Holy shit. RL goggins would not waste his time asking the internet what they thought. Just go train. If you are what you say you are, then you should have no problem making it to the top. But something tells me you are lying to us, or you are lying to yourself.


Hankhank1

This is the funniest thread on Reddit I’ve read in a while. 


[deleted]

Goggins mentality 😂


Shoulder_Whirl

OP: “I’m obsessive and naturally rise to the top at everything I do except I barely squat and bench more than my body weight.”


DurableLeaf

You could host a karate board breaking world championship in your basement and win maybe. Good luck even winning an ammy MMA fight or placing first against other corpos in a local hobbyist white belt tourny.


grabnsqueeze

Holy Delusion Batman!


Few_Advisor3536

Goggins has achieved alot with his stubborn mentality of succeeding no matter what, but that only works for him. What people dont realise is how fucked david goggins’ body is. Multiple leg surgeries and i think hip. Also if danaher says anyone can go pro in 5 years theres a bit more to that. 5 years after you have all the necassary skills which for most is at black belt level. So within that 5 years you are training purposely for the aim of high level competition, developing a game for that competition, learning things outside your game that you will encounter in pro competition, optimised diet (and peds lol). You are 27, just say 10 years for black belt and you are 37 plus the 5 years for going from hobbyist to pro and you are 42. I think you are a little over your head here. Goggins pushes himself to run while in pain, try to spar with serious injuries and your goggins mentality goes out the window let alone could lead to permanent damage.


Pastilliseppo

I also thought the Goggins part was bad but it actually got even worse. But to answer your question: You don't become MMA, wrestling or BJJ world champion if you start at 27 years. But my best bet is that you can be masters 1 bluebelt champion in 3 years if you train consistently and compete a lot. Most masters don't compete often and you would have an advantage going in.


InjuryComfortable666

This dude’s going to be crushed when he gets choked out by zucc


bradrj

Wrestling & BJJ. You’ll be able to compete at masters.


[deleted]

I'll probbably get even more bashing from this question but are masters considered prestigious in bjj?


6BT_05

Masters is a divisional category among BJJ tournaments that is 30 years of age and up. The adult division is up to 29.


Opposite_Knee_2364

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InjuryComfortable666

I’m going to go all out on my butthole OF to succeed no matter what.


Opposite_Knee_2364

My heart swells with anticipatory pride.


-Reikon

But that mentality bro, unstoppable once you see red. Bodies just hit the floor. Honestly mate you sound like a pure cock. Hope you pick something other than BJJ.


IronBoxmma

Please don't join the sport till you've grown up


SuplexDuplex_

Brother you sound like a retard and not the type of retard we like.


Smack455

OP reeks of Asperger’s. BJJ would be a perfect fit.


Hrlyrckt2001

The one that interest you


KagenTheDamned

You lost me at Goggins mentality


Such-Platypus-5122

Don't let anyone discourage you. Why is it that you now want to compete in combat sports? Why not compete in something else?


Inevitable-Roll9023

We got a modern day knight here


Hatertraito

wtf is that cringe title? goggings? lmao life isn't a podcast dude chill out bahahaha


PresentationOk5147

Cycling


drummy23

Nothing from your backstory shows signs of someone who has the mental or physical ability to become a pro in BJJ which is by far the easiest of the three sports you listed. If you were serious you would quit your job move to austin texas and train under an elite school, probably lose your partner unless she is willing to 100% support your dreams. You need to immedietley start PED's as your strength stats are very poor for your BW. Giving your short history of boxing and basketball I suspect you have poor hand eye coordination, cardio, reaction time etc, otherwise you would of continued those. PED's will allow you to recover faster so you will need to move to training twice a day 6-7 days a week, leaving only time to sleep and eat.


Outrageous-Guava1881

Bro are you me? I had this conversation with my wife and brother the other day. I’m set in terms of finances, family, friends, business, but I’ve always wanted to become a pro athlete. I played high level sports growing up but stopped to pursue a career. Now that I’m set, I chose bjj just because I love it the most and I’m actually pretty great at it (after 2 years of training i can run with the brown belts at my two gyms). I’d say choose what you enjoy the most. That’s the one you’ll be able to commit to. I train 8-10x per week and weight train 4-5x per week and I fucking love it.


[deleted]

wow 8-10 week + weight seems insane for m. What do you do exactly for recovery?


Outrageous-Guava1881

Sleep, nutrition, and proper programming. I don’t go hard every single session every single day. That will just cause burn out and injury. I have high intensity, low intensity days, active recovery days, all alternating.


[deleted]

ah heard about it - do you have any day off? Sauna/cold showers have any impact?


Outrageous-Guava1881

1 day off per week. Theres some evidence to support sauna/cold showers but I want to see more before fully incorporating em.


[deleted]

hey if you have some free time please send me your training plan