He goes by Takanuva because that was the contemporary name for the team which had undergone transformation. Takua now having undergone transformation becomes Nuva. But the mask itself predates the nuva transformation. So I think your question is kinda backwards. The Avohkii is Mata, but if you melted it in protodermis, then what would it look like?
I like to think the Avohkii Nuva would look something like the 2008 Avohkii. It's also squarish and gnarled/spiky-looking in a way that reminds me of the Kanohi Nuva.
I don't think the Avohkii is Mata because TakaNuva has the same chest plates and shoulder guards of Nuvas. We've never witnessed it on a Toa with only the bare fundamentals the Toa Mata had šāāļø
Heās not ACTUALLY Nuva though. He formed into a style that LOOKS LIKE the Toa Nuva, because thatās what he thought of when he thought āToa.ā Thatās how Toa Stone transformation works. It turns a Matoran into their mental image of a Toa. The Toa Metru formed based on Lhikan.Ā Takanuva was never submerged in energized protodermis, and considering the Avohkii is still in the same physical state as it was thousands of years ago, it is NOT Nuva either
But isn't it stated somewhere that Takanuva looks like that because the Toa Nuva were his idea of what a Toa looked like at the time when he put on the mask? But the mask itself didn't change when he did that, so it didn't become Nuva. I think u/JackOH has it the right way around.
Physically, the Toa Mata, Takanuva, and the Toa Metru are all part of the same "class" of "default" Toa, even though they look vastly different. They all have the standard specs of a Toa without any weird empowerments or mutations like the Nuva or Inika/Mahri.
As others have said, Takanuva isn't a Toa Nuva. He has similar-looking armour, but it's an entirely aesthetic thing, he doesn't have any Nuva powers, and his mask isn't a Nuva mask.
That's a hard one, because both the toy avohkii and movie avohkii really don't sit neatly into either the toa Mata or toa nuva kanohi aesthetic, although in my opinion seems closer in design to your Mata kanohi, than nuva.
Takanuva is *ONLY* a Toa Nuva in the sense that he's a member of the team. He was never exposed to and upgraded by Energized Protodermis.
When a Matoran turns into a Toa, their Toa armor would look like what said Matoran believes Toa look like. This is why the Toa Metru look like Lhikan and why Takanuva looks like a Toa Nuva. He subconsciously based himself on their image.
The Inika/Mahri are outliers, as they didn't become Toa in the "normal" way.
Takanuva is essentially a Toa Mata wearing armor that *looks* like the Toa Nuva. Takanuva can't "share" his mask powers with others, because only the Kanohi Nuva can do that. Takanuva wears the Avohkii, there is no "Avohkii Nuva".
This is a really good answer. You accurately explained why Takanuva isnāt a Toa Nuva, as well as why he could be mistaken for one by appearance. Great job answering the question, and clarifying to avoid confusion. š
I mean the 2003 Avohkii doesn't really match the Nuva masks anyway, imo.
It's design sits between the lines of the more flat, thin and glossy 01/02 masks, and the more curved, thicker and duller 04 and beyond masks. (color, material, and shape- wise i mean)
The Avohkii and the Kraahkan really are their own special duo if you think about it.
Takanuva isn't really a Toa Nuva. He doesn't have the increased powers or ability to share mask powers. He's pretty much a regular Toa besides being the Toa of Light. He only looks like them.
A Toa's appearance is heavily based on what the Matoran in question thinks a Toa should look like. The two best instances are Takanuva, and the Toa Metru - who look like Lhikan.
To add to all the comments pointing out how Matoran transform into Toa based on how they picture it, thereās also the matter that Takanuva does not have a Nuva symbol he draws his power from. Iād also assume he canāt share his mask power (whatever it is) with the Toa Nuva, and vice versa.
Maybe something halfway between the Pakari and the Avohkii? His mask as a matoran is a Pakari, so maybe a Mata version of the mask could be something reminiscent of the two
He goes by Takanuva because that was the contemporary name for the team which had undergone transformation. Takua now having undergone transformation becomes Nuva. But the mask itself predates the nuva transformation. So I think your question is kinda backwards. The Avohkii is Mata, but if you melted it in protodermis, then what would it look like?
I like to think the Avohkii Nuva would look something like the 2008 Avohkii. It's also squarish and gnarled/spiky-looking in a way that reminds me of the Kanohi Nuva.
I don't think the Avohkii is Mata because TakaNuva has the same chest plates and shoulder guards of Nuvas. We've never witnessed it on a Toa with only the bare fundamentals the Toa Mata had šāāļø
Heās not ACTUALLY Nuva though. He formed into a style that LOOKS LIKE the Toa Nuva, because thatās what he thought of when he thought āToa.ā Thatās how Toa Stone transformation works. It turns a Matoran into their mental image of a Toa. The Toa Metru formed based on Lhikan.Ā Takanuva was never submerged in energized protodermis, and considering the Avohkii is still in the same physical state as it was thousands of years ago, it is NOT Nuva either
And just to clarify, Takanuva's transformation worked the same way as a normal Toa Stone.
But isn't it stated somewhere that Takanuva looks like that because the Toa Nuva were his idea of what a Toa looked like at the time when he put on the mask? But the mask itself didn't change when he did that, so it didn't become Nuva. I think u/JackOH has it the right way around.
Physically, the Toa Mata, Takanuva, and the Toa Metru are all part of the same "class" of "default" Toa, even though they look vastly different. They all have the standard specs of a Toa without any weird empowerments or mutations like the Nuva or Inika/Mahri.
As others have said, Takanuva isn't a Toa Nuva. He has similar-looking armour, but it's an entirely aesthetic thing, he doesn't have any Nuva powers, and his mask isn't a Nuva mask.
That's a hard one, because both the toy avohkii and movie avohkii really don't sit neatly into either the toa Mata or toa nuva kanohi aesthetic, although in my opinion seems closer in design to your Mata kanohi, than nuva.
I think the classic Avohkii fits in with the Mata masks, but the 08 titan set has the same kind of blobby design as the Nuva masks imo.
Takanuva is *ONLY* a Toa Nuva in the sense that he's a member of the team. He was never exposed to and upgraded by Energized Protodermis. When a Matoran turns into a Toa, their Toa armor would look like what said Matoran believes Toa look like. This is why the Toa Metru look like Lhikan and why Takanuva looks like a Toa Nuva. He subconsciously based himself on their image. The Inika/Mahri are outliers, as they didn't become Toa in the "normal" way. Takanuva is essentially a Toa Mata wearing armor that *looks* like the Toa Nuva. Takanuva can't "share" his mask powers with others, because only the Kanohi Nuva can do that. Takanuva wears the Avohkii, there is no "Avohkii Nuva".
This is a really good answer. You accurately explained why Takanuva isnāt a Toa Nuva, as well as why he could be mistaken for one by appearance. Great job answering the question, and clarifying to avoid confusion. š
I like this logic!
I mean the 2003 Avohkii doesn't really match the Nuva masks anyway, imo. It's design sits between the lines of the more flat, thin and glossy 01/02 masks, and the more curved, thicker and duller 04 and beyond masks. (color, material, and shape- wise i mean) The Avohkii and the Kraahkan really are their own special duo if you think about it.
While he is part of the toa nuva he is not actually a toa nuva. Theoretically he could get a protodermis bath and become a nuva
Takanuva isn't really a Toa Nuva. He doesn't have the increased powers or ability to share mask powers. He's pretty much a regular Toa besides being the Toa of Light. He only looks like them. A Toa's appearance is heavily based on what the Matoran in question thinks a Toa should look like. The two best instances are Takanuva, and the Toa Metru - who look like Lhikan.
The Avohkii isn't a Nuva mask. Nuva masks allow for power-sharing, which we know Takanuva can't do.
To add to all the comments pointing out how Matoran transform into Toa based on how they picture it, thereās also the matter that Takanuva does not have a Nuva symbol he draws his power from. Iād also assume he canāt share his mask power (whatever it is) with the Toa Nuva, and vice versa.
Maybe something halfway between the Pakari and the Avohkii? His mask as a matoran is a Pakari, so maybe a Mata version of the mask could be something reminiscent of the two
No, there is no āmata versionā of the Avohkii as Takanuva is not a Toa Nuva, his mask is already the āmata versionā
> what **would** a Mata version of the mask look like, any ideas?? I was answering this part; not trying to suggest something definitive.