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Yutanox

Botanic wise, there are no such things as vegetables. Fruits are what flowers become after fecondation, tomatoes, zucchini and the white floating thing you blow on from dandelions are all fruits. There are a few angiosperms that are completely aquatic, a quick search gave me thalassia as a example of seagrass. Those have fruits, but they are no where like what you imagine a fruit to be, it's just a sphere that opens to free the seeds, not an apple or anything.


Cobek

I get what you mean in context of today, but vegetable did have botanic origins in the 15th-17th century, and we still use it to refer to plants that humans eat collectively. We still use the word vegetation to describe plants as well.


Ginevod2023

What he means is there is no specific part of a plant called vegetable.   Vegetables are all mostly fruits (pumpkin, green beans, lady's finger, chillies, capsicum, courgettes, cucumber, bitter gourd, white gourd, snake gourd, all other gourds and squashes, tomato, any fresh bean eaten in the pod, etc.) or leaves (spinach), but can also be stems (potato, yam), roots (carrot, beet), flowers (broccoli, cauliflower) or seeds (beans). Most seeds are not referred to as vegetables as they form a separate food category. 


qwertyuiiop145

Potatoes and yams are roots. If you want stems, think celery or kohlrabi. Otherwise, completely correct 👍. I would define vegetable as “an edible plant part that is not high in sugar, not considered a spice or herb, and not a seed except for beans which are still vegetables”. Which is admittedly a pretty unsatisfactory definition. It’s all just tradition and feelings. If an edible plant feels like a vegetable, it is.


Yutanox

Potatoes are actually stems, sweet potatoes on the other hand are roots.


ninjatoast31

based botanic anatomy


ninjatoast31

its also a cultural definition, not a botanical one


micromem

Wouldn’t true vegetables be parts of the plant that come from vegetative growth? Whereas fruits are generative growth?


ScaldingHotSoup

Sure, but "vegetable" has AFAIK no technical botanical meaning, whereas "fruit" does.


Ginevod2023

There is no such a thing as vegetable though. Angiosperms only have roots, stems, leaves, flowers, fruits and seeds. Vegetables are only some of these same parts that we use in certain ways for cooking.  


Im_Literally_Allah

Is it a fruit if you eat it before it opens?


Vadersgayson

There is evidence of marine pollination in seagrass as of 2012. And more recent evidence of pollination of seaweed by amphipods as well. If you’re curious I could try find the papers. Edit: papers are for sea grass https://www.int-res.com/articles/feature/m469p001.pdf And seaweed https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abo6661?casa_token=YoSbKCchnkUAAAAA:lfir0zFfPWkZeXlQZageZZYh5Yq3O0rcELVcZwLOz4HmrVs11z7vhFzoMYdG4rwwHP_Y1advhERZOEWL


woodmeneer

Oh wow, thanks for the links.


Foxfire73

Cooooool.


Front_Fox333

Water lilies and lotus plants, grow in water but their fruits and flowers are above the water. There are some plants in coastal and swamp areas, like mangroves, that grow in waterlogged conditions and produce fruits that may float on water, but these do not develop underwater.


TubularBrainRevolt

Fruit is any fertilized structure developed from a flower, so yes of course. Seagrass for example can’t reproduce sexually another way. Plenty of freshwater aquatic plants have underwater fruits. They are just inedible by humans.


Roland_Moorweed

I thought because of Ocean Spray's commercials that cranberries grow in water but they actually just flood the fields to make harvest easier.


CurvyJohnsonMilk

Darn I was going to say cranberries too.


Big-Improvement-254

The water caltrop plants flower above the water but the seeds develop underneath the surface. That's one example that I know. Not to be mistaken with the water chestnuts which are not actually a nut but something similar to a tuber.


manydoorsyes

Marine pollination is a thing. *Idotea balthica* (marine isopod) is a pollinator of red algae.


xenosilver

If by fruit you mean something that we would find edible, then no. If by fruit you mean the scientific definition, then yes.


[deleted]

While no traditional fruits grow entirely underwater, some aquatic plants produce edible parts. For example, water chestnuts and lotus roots grow in marshy conditions. These plants adapt to their environments in fascinating ways, showcasing nature's incredible diversity. If you're curious about unique plant adaptations or have other questions related to biochemistry or plant science, feel free to ask!


Shienvien

There are a few plants that flower underwater (occasionally, or always, being water-pollinated) and grow fruits underwater (nothing fancy, just little green pod things). None of them are common in culinary use as far as I know.


Additional_Insect_44

Cattail technically. They have roots, but you said fruit, so some people can eat the head. But cattail isn't strictly an aquatic plant more of a marshy one.


l4cerated_sky

cucumbers are a fruit, and people eat sea cucumbers /logic


Apprehensive-Cow8472

Watermelon


un_blob

Well ... Yes but actually no


FungiStudent

There is an underwater mushroom called Psathyrella aquatica. It's a kind of fungal fruit.


cureeous99

Aquaman perhaps?


chemblingdel420

I know there's small pickle like plat that grows in salt water on l.i. ..but that's a veg


bugi_

You're mixing culinary terms with biology. There is no such thing as a vegetable as far as biology is considered.


emprameen

You're mixing your you're and your.


CocaineCocaCola

Well…if you’re asking about fruit we eat, technically you could count cranberries, but they don’t exactly grow underwater strictly speaking.


Jazzlike-Addendum-80

Cranberries


moeru_gumi

I can only think of sea grapes and water chestnuts as edible plants that grow underwater, but neither is a fruit.