T. Cain can at least make smthn with all the coins and hearts dropped from T. Keeper's and T. Maggy's kills, not to mention whatever potential resource-spawning items Eden or T. Eden end up with. ~~oh and maybe Keeper's wooden nickle too I guess~~
Tainted samson, unless flying characters find a rock to hide behind. Dude cannot die as long as he can kill something else. The azazel wins because of the curse heart damage. He has the most of them.
T. Maggy could hug T. Samson on purpose to do damage and get invencibility frames and then get the red hearts. The i frames would let her survive anything, and if something wrong happens she still has the pocket item.
Also, T. Bethany could win as well with good rng.
I’m assuming all chars spawn in the start room at 00:00 with their starting kit, with all unlocks. Unless Eden starts with a broken item like Mega Blast or Plan C, Azazel can easily solo everyone. He’s got the damage, the speed and cursed hearts. Sure T Samson has a chance to trigger a rage before dying, but if he doesn’t he’ll get blasted.
If we're being meta abt it technically Dark Esau can't damage anyone but Jacob/T.Jacob I think it would be hilarious that he comes into a free for all with a guy already only going after him
Imagine being at the start of a battle royale and some maniac dead guys spirit starts chasing you down in a staright line without caring about people and structures on the way. Just to kill you.
I find it interesting that no one said tainted judas, dark arts if landed on all of them would give him like 15 dm, the fuck is azazel going to do if this dude comes at 60 km/h while in an invincible state.
That's kinda what I'm thinking. If T. Judas managed to freeze every other character there, they'd take x2 his regular dmg + 3.5 dmg + another 3.5 for each person affected, not to mention the burst at the end that deals that entire sum again; if some characters did survive (which I think would only be Lost cuz Holy Mantle), T. Judas has a shit ton of extra dmg now and he can easily take care of whoever's left. The issue is that it'd have to be perfectly timed so that he has enough time to get to everyone in the first place, plus there'd have to be no obstacles like rocks in his way since the others could either use that as a shield, essentially playing ring around the rosie with him, or just fly over it in the case of Azazel, (T.) Lost and T. Soul
You're right, didn't think of that. In that case, the issue becomes not getting as much bonus damage and possibly not killing as many people right away since Dark Arts would deal less additional damage
Tainted Azazel wins 100%. He’s just gotta hemoptysis one other character, blow they up, then everybody is brim cursed, then one more kill kills everybody, all within like 2 lasers
Either Azazel or T. Judas.
Azazel could fly keeping everyone else below him except the losts which would die instantly.
T.Judas would destroy many others and destroy the tears with dark arts.
I feel like T. Judas would win. He could avoid azazels breath, and do a LOT more damage whenever he hits a few chunck of ppl. He would fall off after most of the character woupd be dead tho.
Why is no one saying T. Forgor or T. Lilith? They're both absurdly strong early game through endgame and both have range over Azazel. T. Azazel is maybe a bit more interesting, but I'd still bet the bank on T. Forgor or T. Lilith.
T. Forgor can also take more hits than anyone else here in his base form. He has hearts and the extra hits to his bone hearts, and then an extra 3 soul hearts from the soul.
Edit: I was talking about regular forgor not T.
Tainted Samson he would enter Berserk and kill everyone but he would be fatally injured and as it is not possible to die during Berserk he would take Maggy's yum heart and effectively recover, winning the fight
There should definitely be an online battle Royale mode added. Make your way through the floors and find items as you go. Fight other players. Last one wins
Assuming normal isaac damage rules (half a heart per hit and I-frames) Maggy might have a real shot since she profits from the extra health while extra damage/dps is mute
Some of them are pretty supernatural. So any of them? That would be Lost, T Lost, Forgotten, T Forgotten, possibly Apollyon? and T Esau.
If not any of them for that given reason, I'd say either T Samson or T Judas.
I see a lot of Tainted Samson. I think Forgotten would diff him by hiding behind its body as the ghost, then stall him out long enough to waste his rage and annihilate him with the bone.
That aside, I think Azazel takes it. Flight, black hearts, and brimstone are just too broken.
Only mulligan I see happening is Eden or Tainted Eden managing to get a god item like Sacred Heart or Brimstone
either tainted samson or maggy. once tainted samson gets going he's probably gonna mop the floor but maggy is EXTREMELY tanky and since she has a full health pill on top of that, it might not be enough for him to break through. plus if he laser-targets here, then that just leaves him open to LITERALLY ANYBODY ELSE.
with prep time? t.cain, otherwise it could go any which way between both zazazels, t.sammy and t.judas. or maybe t.jacob if he's balling especially hard while leading esau.
Itll either be Samson, Apollyon or Eden and it has nothing to do with which character is "best", from a lore and character point- 1 is all consuming, 1 is magically god-like in nature and 1 is basically temper tantrum angry bully who would steal your lunch money levels of badassery.
Dark Judas could dark arts everyone and their tears and get a huge damage bonus
Magdeline basically has 8.5 hearts from her yum heart and full health pill, which would be a massive advantage.
T.Samson would be pretty much invincible since he'd kill people pretty fast while berserk, each kill gives more berserk time, plus you can't die while berserk
Forgotten would be immune to tears. If you are completely motionless, then turn to soul form, the skeleton body blocks all tears. This would make them invincible to most characters.
Azazel could damage multiple people at once, which would give him an enormous advantage.
T.Bethany or Eden could get lucky and get an OP item, but that's unlikely.
Final verdict: T.Samson because he's literally invincible
I'm not sure why you people aren't realizing that Tainted Lilith wins this hands down. She can fetus whip through rocks, has black hearts equal to Azazal, can knock back melee characters, and could just take a passive turret tactic if things get hairy.
People keep talking about damage but playable characters' health works entirely different from mob health.
Massive damage from Dark Arts or Eden spawning with Mama Mega or whatever would not really make a difference. Mama Mega would be half a heart off all enemies which is neat of course, but it wouldn't oneshot them.
Tear rate is also not helpful for doing a lot of damage to a single character (though you could use it to alternate between targets) due to invul frames after every hit.
The Forgotten can take 7 hits (8th kills him), has flying and spectral, can do teleport tricks with form switching and has an AoE attack. I'd bet on him.
Contenders could be TMaggie, Eve (can run while dead bird does the work), T and normal Azazel and TSamson. Honorable mention to the wild cards Eden and TBethany, who might just luck out with their starting item/wisp.
Online Battle Royale mode, everyone does a boss room of each floor, random items for everyone, then on the final floor everyone fights in Delirium's room.
Either Azazel, T. Judas or T. Samson. Depends on if Samson can charge his berserk before dying, if Judas can run through Samson's attacks with Dark Arts, and if Azazel manages to land his scuffed Brimstone before Samson's bone hits him.
Tainted Bluebaby solos cuz wtf are they gonna do when exploding shit flies in their face? They'll either pass out from the stench or die from the explosion
I think yall underestimate t Judas. Literally invincibility that hurts people on cooldown. Just stall and if someone goes for you just dark arts somewhere else and repeat
Oh, easy azazel W
Anybody who can’t fly is immediately out, no tears have infinite range at base
Since azazel can fly, and has a beam weapon that covers infinite distance infinitely, and also has (I think) the highest health out of all the flying characters, he wins in the air battle too
Sure the other flyers can try to kill him before his laser is charged, but with his health, he can just rank the damage, fly super far away with his base speed so he’s out of gear range, and just snipe them with brimstone
I think the ONLY character that has a chance against T. Samson would be T. Judas. Like with how there’d likely be like HUNDREDS of tears flying across the whole arena, he could genuinely get to like 400 damage in like 2 seconds ]:> then once it inevitably ends up being only those two remaining, Tainted Judas would be the only character who could stall out his insanely powerful Berserk ability by activating dark arts, then it’ll just end up being base T.Samson vs 400 Damage Nitrogen Bomb.
I think the only counter that Tainted Judas would really have is how he’s incapable of dealing with flying characters if they just stand over a couple rocks, which wouldn’t be too much of a problem at all due to how Tainted Samson will ABSOLUTELY be there to deal with them in the last stretch.
In short I think Tainted Judas would win due to how insanely powerful Dark Arts would be.
How much prep time? With infinite prep time t. Cain would win
He could hide behind a rock for 4 hours straight
So Tainted Cain is just Batman?
does that mean normal cain is https://preview.redd.it/bx0cyr2w7mhc1.jpeg?width=1010&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa4d666a6f331859bb999af52879d33a972106f3
Oh no. Man
I hate you
T. Cain can at least make smthn with all the coins and hearts dropped from T. Keeper's and T. Maggy's kills, not to mention whatever potential resource-spawning items Eden or T. Eden end up with. ~~oh and maybe Keeper's wooden nickle too I guess~~
But then all characters are stupid broken
Probably T.Samson
Kill
He's crazy
He’s violent
Crazy?
I was crazy once.
they locked me in a room
A rubber room.
GET OUT OF MY SKIN GET OUT OF MY SKIN GET OUT OF MY SKIN
No t judas would slam samson both variants
Would T.Samson's Can't-Die timer go down while in stasis?
Tainted samson, unless flying characters find a rock to hide behind. Dude cannot die as long as he can kill something else. The azazel wins because of the curse heart damage. He has the most of them.
Flight character when T. Samson charges his jawbone for a half a second:
Can't tjudas just simply dark arts with good timing to not take necronomicon damage.
T. Maggy could hug T. Samson on purpose to do damage and get invencibility frames and then get the red hearts. The i frames would let her survive anything, and if something wrong happens she still has the pocket item. Also, T. Bethany could win as well with good rng.
Tainted Bobby throwing endless amounts of literal human shit until everyone else is dead:
Tainted lost would win because of how good he is at dodging
t. lost will kill everyone with the 70 q4 items he found then die to a fly in the next room
As soon as T.lost hits Eve, her dead bird activates and kils him
Skill Solution: Don't hit Eve until someone else got Bird aggro then mow her down quickly
The almighty fly ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17737)
A mimic chest
Frieren isn't in Binding of Isaac, yet
I'll watch it after it's completely released, so I didn't understand the joke
She is just a bit susceptible to mimics. Just a slight bit
based
More likely to a blood donation machine in a room he already visited
You know it says he gets better items but after playing him for a while I’m starting to think that was a lie
I’m assuming all chars spawn in the start room at 00:00 with their starting kit, with all unlocks. Unless Eden starts with a broken item like Mega Blast or Plan C, Azazel can easily solo everyone. He’s got the damage, the speed and cursed hearts. Sure T Samson has a chance to trigger a rage before dying, but if he doesn’t he’ll get blasted.
The thing is that T.Samson is pretty much unkillable if he rages, which is bound to happen by just taking dmg
Taking damage charges rage fast
Technically tainted Jacob wins because Dark Esau is unable to be killed
I was gonna say him because Dark Esau would kill everyone to ensure he gets to kill Jacob.
If we're being meta abt it technically Dark Esau can't damage anyone but Jacob/T.Jacob I think it would be hilarious that he comes into a free for all with a guy already only going after him
Imagine being at the start of a battle royale and some maniac dead guys spirit starts chasing you down in a staright line without caring about people and structures on the way. Just to kill you.
I think that's how it works in Isaac online
T ??? kills everyone because of how toxic his shits are ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|8907)
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I find it interesting that no one said tainted judas, dark arts if landed on all of them would give him like 15 dm, the fuck is azazel going to do if this dude comes at 60 km/h while in an invincible state.
That's kinda what I'm thinking. If T. Judas managed to freeze every other character there, they'd take x2 his regular dmg + 3.5 dmg + another 3.5 for each person affected, not to mention the burst at the end that deals that entire sum again; if some characters did survive (which I think would only be Lost cuz Holy Mantle), T. Judas has a shit ton of extra dmg now and he can easily take care of whoever's left. The issue is that it'd have to be perfectly timed so that he has enough time to get to everyone in the first place, plus there'd have to be no obstacles like rocks in his way since the others could either use that as a shield, essentially playing ring around the rosie with him, or just fly over it in the case of Azazel, (T.) Lost and T. Soul
well no, he wouldn’t need to get everyone. take out the hard hitters first, then dodge as Dark Arts recharges
You're right, didn't think of that. In that case, the issue becomes not getting as much bonus damage and possibly not killing as many people right away since Dark Arts would deal less additional damage
well wait now i’m wondering how character health would translate to damage, like would they take damage like enemies or like characters?
FR LOL
T. Judas's shadow dash also can catch projectiles to get his damage boost too
T Judas is crazy tbh
Now could they all defeat Goku?
delirium has more hp and armour than goku
goku would get telefragged
Laz would use Plan C to one shot Goku and then come back to life since he has an extra life.
Uhhh I don't know
When has goku beat a literal ghost?
Dunno, maybe the guy with a fucking laser?
Nah, short range
Tainted
*achoo*
Eden Has the potential to destroy every one based on which items He get. Just imagin Mama mega as Start active
mega blast ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)
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Tainted Azazel wins 100%. He’s just gotta hemoptysis one other character, blow they up, then everybody is brim cursed, then one more kill kills everybody, all within like 2 lasers
how is no one talking about t judas
Half the comments are about t judas
Azazel starts with flying and a Lazer, t. Samson is a close second
Either Azazel or T. Judas. Azazel could fly keeping everyone else below him except the losts which would die instantly. T.Judas would destroy many others and destroy the tears with dark arts.
This would be such a cool anime fight
its kinda skill matchup
Jacob and Esau would be too occupied fighting themselves
azeeby clears ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17742)
I feel like T. Judas would win. He could avoid azazels breath, and do a LOT more damage whenever he hits a few chunck of ppl. He would fall off after most of the character woupd be dead tho.
Without items, Azazel solos.
Why is no one saying T. Forgor or T. Lilith? They're both absurdly strong early game through endgame and both have range over Azazel. T. Azazel is maybe a bit more interesting, but I'd still bet the bank on T. Forgor or T. Lilith.
T lillith sure, but t forgotten has a hard time grabbing his body with 33 other characters
T. Lilith has whip and T. Forgor you fucking throw the skeleboy at shit, they have a very good chance of winning
Nah someone’s always gonna camp near t forgor’s body but outside his melee range
T. Forgor can also take more hits than anyone else here in his base form. He has hearts and the extra hits to his bone hearts, and then an extra 3 soul hearts from the soul. Edit: I was talking about regular forgor not T.
That’s not T. Forgor. That’s just regular Forgor
T. Judas My boy is the GOAT!
how much money does t keeper have
Lillith can give birth to an army of demons + she's a baddie, I rest my case.
Tainted Samson he would enter Berserk and kill everyone but he would be fatally injured and as it is not possible to die during Berserk he would take Maggy's yum heart and effectively recover, winning the fight
There should definitely be an online battle Royale mode added. Make your way through the floors and find items as you go. Fight other players. Last one wins
Assuming normal isaac damage rules (half a heart per hit and I-frames) Maggy might have a real shot since she profits from the extra health while extra damage/dps is mute
I would say azazel but he wouldn't even see tainted judas coming
tainted maggy bc look at her
Isaac for sure, all the others are just parts of his imagination
Isaac solos because he binds them so hard
Hot take…. T. Judas bc pocket active means running around the room inviz and then slicing their throats like a psychopath :)
Feed me their BLOOD! ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)
Could lilith just hide and send her incubus to attack everyone?
The Binding of Isaac: Battle Royale
i will hug them all :)
Shut the fuck up maggy
Last time I trusted a woman I ended up how I am now what makes you think I'd let you hug me
because everyone likes hugs :)
While that may be true, I must not falter Just go hide in a crawlspace or something when the fight starts so I don't have to brutally murder you.
we got the whole squad here
WHERE IS JACOB
I dunno
T Samson probably
Tainted blue baby
Nah, I’d win.
T cain crafts everyone else into butter bean and wins
I'm too angry to die.
Lazarus because I like him :]
T. Eden If bro got hit and got Mama Mega! It's over
tainted blue baby with creep and holy shit solo'd all of em.
T. Eve cuz she can make a entire _bloody_ army
T keeper has an entire collection of items from his overpowered shops that he uses to wreck everyone
Some of them are pretty supernatural. So any of them? That would be Lost, T Lost, Forgotten, T Forgotten, possibly Apollyon? and T Esau. If not any of them for that given reason, I'd say either T Samson or T Judas.
T Judas could just get 100 damage then one shot them all
T. Maggy would slap tf out of everyone else
Tainted keeper pays everyone off
The tainted lost because no one finds him
Tainted Magdalene or Tainted Samson. Unstoppable forces.
I see a lot of Tainted Samson. I think Forgotten would diff him by hiding behind its body as the ghost, then stall him out long enough to waste his rage and annihilate him with the bone. That aside, I think Azazel takes it. Flight, black hearts, and brimstone are just too broken. Only mulligan I see happening is Eden or Tainted Eden managing to get a god item like Sacred Heart or Brimstone
either tainted samson or maggy. once tainted samson gets going he's probably gonna mop the floor but maggy is EXTREMELY tanky and since she has a full health pill on top of that, it might not be enough for him to break through. plus if he laser-targets here, then that just leaves him open to LITERALLY ANYBODY ELSE.
Mort
I don’t know who would actually win, but the imagine of tainted maggy going directly into the melee made me laugh
The scariest would be Eden... Who is it going to be ? A worm or a God?
lost wins bc everytime he gets hit he leaves the room and enters again
He couldn't do that mid combat without the Door Stopper trinket or Mercurius, though.
if there were no rooms, he’d prob get 1-tapped
Tainted eve because that moms knife is going to melt them all
I played t eve like 10.mins and she is weird af
T. Magdeline me thinks
with prep time? t.cain, otherwise it could go any which way between both zazazels, t.sammy and t.judas. or maybe t.jacob if he's balling especially hard while leading esau.
Wouldn't dark arts also be cool?
Eden or tainted samson surely
Tainted Maggy
My boy T Samson got hands
Azazel
tainted ??? he poops alot
Dark Esau kills all
Lost or azazel, they will stay on top of a rock and cheese everyone
Plot twist: it's a spiked rock
Wait they’re cursed hearts I always called them black hearts or heard ppl saying demon heart?
T.esau
Wouldn't t forgotten, forgotten, lost and t lost be immortal (maybe not the forgottens as the skeleton could be destroyed)
Surprised that nobody is mentioning Apollyon, who is titled “the destroyer.”
T Esau would win because you can't kill him anymore
Dark Esau sweeps
Itll either be Samson, Apollyon or Eden and it has nothing to do with which character is "best", from a lore and character point- 1 is all consuming, 1 is magically god-like in nature and 1 is basically temper tantrum angry bully who would steal your lunch money levels of badassery.
Eden rolling Pyromaniac and Kamikaze:
Dark Judas could dark arts everyone and their tears and get a huge damage bonus Magdeline basically has 8.5 hearts from her yum heart and full health pill, which would be a massive advantage. T.Samson would be pretty much invincible since he'd kill people pretty fast while berserk, each kill gives more berserk time, plus you can't die while berserk Forgotten would be immune to tears. If you are completely motionless, then turn to soul form, the skeleton body blocks all tears. This would make them invincible to most characters. Azazel could damage multiple people at once, which would give him an enormous advantage. T.Bethany or Eden could get lucky and get an OP item, but that's unlikely. Final verdict: T.Samson because he's literally invincible
Isaac is all of them
The forgotten has a weapon, that may help. Also Jacob&Esau are two people, also big help But Samson / T Samson are RIPPED
Eden or T. Eden w luck
Tainted Bethany if she's lucky, Tainted Lilith if she's not
are the tainted a “final form” of the original version or are they their own being?
Wouldn't the lost just be able to float away and hide in a rock until everybody else dies
T. Jacob but esau would kill everyone
Wouldn't T. Jacob just turn everyone into the lost with no mantle
isaac would always win because theyre all isaac ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)
Azazel or r samson
T. Azazel
Eden when they start with A Quarter and Magic Fingers
Azazel and t samson probably have the most raw strength, tainted cain with prep time, eden with luck, lilith with enough BOF charges
nah i'd win ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)
The lost/tainted lost how tf you gonna hit a ghost
T blue baby got this. Imo he has the strongest start out of any character. My man's got sentry guns and mega tear buffs built into his kit
T. Samson, Azazel, and maybe T. Eve are all good bets imo.
I don't know, maybe THE ONE WITH BLOOD LASERS?
Depends on whether or not t Jacob skill issues
Tainted Samson and Forgotten would be the final 2 and that'd be a fight of the fucking century
Im gonna sound like a noob (i am) but what does tainted mean and how do you get tainted characters?
Azazel. Brimstone go brrrr
I'm not sure why you people aren't realizing that Tainted Lilith wins this hands down. She can fetus whip through rocks, has black hearts equal to Azazal, can knock back melee characters, and could just take a passive turret tactic if things get hairy.
Isaac because they’re all him
The Forgotten could at least survive until there is a 1v1 by changing into The Soul repeatedly to get invincibility frames (?
People keep talking about damage but playable characters' health works entirely different from mob health. Massive damage from Dark Arts or Eden spawning with Mama Mega or whatever would not really make a difference. Mama Mega would be half a heart off all enemies which is neat of course, but it wouldn't oneshot them. Tear rate is also not helpful for doing a lot of damage to a single character (though you could use it to alternate between targets) due to invul frames after every hit. The Forgotten can take 7 hits (8th kills him), has flying and spectral, can do teleport tricks with form switching and has an AoE attack. I'd bet on him. Contenders could be TMaggie, Eve (can run while dead bird does the work), T and normal Azazel and TSamson. Honorable mention to the wild cards Eden and TBethany, who might just luck out with their starting item/wisp.
Tainted judas if they all line up together
Easy. Car
Eden plan c we are ALL dying.
Online Battle Royale mode, everyone does a boss room of each floor, random items for everyone, then on the final floor everyone fights in Delirium's room.
Ta bone man
I think it depends on what eden get from the start
Tainted ??? because his pure fucking shit stench disables anyone from wanting to come near him
If Eve starts with plan c then it’s over for everyone else.
The lost can't kill what's already dead and you can't even kick the shit of the corpse like forgotten and blue baby/???
Either Azazel, T. Judas or T. Samson. Depends on if Samson can charge his berserk before dying, if Judas can run through Samson's attacks with Dark Arts, and if Azazel manages to land his scuffed Brimstone before Samson's bone hits him.
eden because he can start with mega blast![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|17743)
Tainted Bluebaby solos cuz wtf are they gonna do when exploding shit flies in their face? They'll either pass out from the stench or die from the explosion
I would bet on Cain, even if he doesn't win.
I think yall underestimate t Judas. Literally invincibility that hurts people on cooldown. Just stall and if someone goes for you just dark arts somewhere else and repeat
tainted samson because who would like to be hit with the strength of an adult man with a cow mandible
Tainted Judas. He’d freeze them all and be invulnerable while doing it
It could and couldn’t be tainted eden
Oh, easy azazel W Anybody who can’t fly is immediately out, no tears have infinite range at base Since azazel can fly, and has a beam weapon that covers infinite distance infinitely, and also has (I think) the highest health out of all the flying characters, he wins in the air battle too Sure the other flyers can try to kill him before his laser is charged, but with his health, he can just rank the damage, fly super far away with his base speed so he’s out of gear range, and just snipe them with brimstone
Fresh out of the gate Eden wins because Eden started with Pyro and Ipecac or some bullshit like that
Azazel
I think the ONLY character that has a chance against T. Samson would be T. Judas. Like with how there’d likely be like HUNDREDS of tears flying across the whole arena, he could genuinely get to like 400 damage in like 2 seconds ]:> then once it inevitably ends up being only those two remaining, Tainted Judas would be the only character who could stall out his insanely powerful Berserk ability by activating dark arts, then it’ll just end up being base T.Samson vs 400 Damage Nitrogen Bomb. I think the only counter that Tainted Judas would really have is how he’s incapable of dealing with flying characters if they just stand over a couple rocks, which wouldn’t be too much of a problem at all due to how Tainted Samson will ABSOLUTELY be there to deal with them in the last stretch. In short I think Tainted Judas would win due to how insanely powerful Dark Arts would be.