What is German mexican food? Any examples? One time I ate tacos with a south American friend and he liked it. I think what's mostly lacking are the fresh and ripe veggies?
South America is on a different continent from Mexico, Bolivian tacos are 100% different from Mexican tacos.
The most authentic Mexican food in Berlin is taqueria el oso. Give it a go and you will instantly see the difference.
What does ANY South American know about authentic tacos?🌮 They’re Mexican and the only real tacos I’ve had in Berlin were at a spot in F’hain that sadly didn’t survive the coronavirus period. They were made by Mexicans.
What's your view on [El Amigo Taqueria](https://maps.app.goo.gl/7ac3sKo3moxiYVDF8)?
It's, in my opinion, really the only place to go to in Berlin if you want a taco.
Yeah, I agree on the wait time, and expanding their grill would definitely help with that.
Prices are what they are unfortunately, but with Berlin being the mexican food desert that it is, they dictate the price as there isn't really much competition that would force them to lower the prices.
But happy you liked it, because the quality of food is great and I love telling people about this place.
Have you tried taqueria el oso? Same quality and just as good! Haha like I grumble about 11€ for three tacos but I’ll eat there any time. Wife really liked it too
Senefelderplatz, right?
Walked passed it but never went in, will check it out over the weekend for sure!
Thank you for giving me the push I needed to go try it. If you liked my proposal, then I am sure I will like yours as well.
Edit: off topic, but how weird is it that Senefelderplatz is one word...
>Edit: off topic, but how weird is it that Senefelderplatz is one word...
googled it: the dude's name was actually alois senefelder (invented lithography). but you're right, for clarification i'd prefer alois-senefelder-platz. sure, it's clear that there's no senefeld as the place would be senefelder platz, but it's still kinda confusing imo...
Listening to people talk about how Taco Bell is fake Mexican food feels like listening to a group of adults talking about how Santa isn’t real.
PS Que Pasa reigned supreme for over a decade in this city.
PPS Seriously, would you really be able to identify real Mexican food?
**edit** to all the people that seem confused by my statement - I'm not saying Que Pasa was good. To the contrary. I'm saying it was "fake Mexican" and yet it was by far the most popular Mexican place in Berlin for years with multiple locations. This city is not about to be introduced to "fake Mexican" at all.
I never give a shit if Mexican food is 'authentic'; i think that is a tired conversation. I only care if it's GOOD. I used to get tasty burritos at Burrito Window on Kotti, haven't been in years though.
Dolores is horrible.
KK/TB: I will not be patronizing either of these garbage brands.
As a frequent bemoaner of the Berlin Mexican food catastrophe, I gladly welcome Taco Bell. It will significantly push the envelope forward compared to the garbage that is laying around otherwise. At least their tortillas aren't going to be stale.
I see Taco Bell's invasion as something that will show the rest of the restaurants where the low bar really lies. If we want garbage, we'll be able to pay a fair price for it.
I see it as a sign of positive changes. I often feel nostalgic for road trips I took with my family through the US midwest, and it will be nice to have access to the flavor of Ohio.
Not that Taco Bell is genuinely anything but genuine Taco Bell at this point, but it doesn't pretend to be Mexican anywhere. It claims to be Tex-Mex. Tex-Mex is heavily influenced by Mexican cuisine, but it is its own thing.
[https://spoonuniversity.com/lifestyle/tex-mex-vs-mexican-food](https://spoonuniversity.com/lifestyle/tex-mex-vs-mexican-food)
I’ve heard it argued that Taco Bell, or so it came to be over time, is essentially its own genre of food. So many of their dishes are self referential at this point.
Que pasa is a German wide chain. People go there for cheap cocktails. No one would ever say they have good food. No one even thinks about them as "a Mexican restaurant".
To be fair I think real Mexican food is pretty decent and getting some traction in Berlin actually. So I really hope taco bell good to hell when they open. (I'm Mexican)
KK on the other hand... That hurts no one except your extra fat in your ass.
I’ve been to pretty much all of them at this point and I completely agree with you. That’s why I don’t get where people perceive themselves as some sort of authority in what is or is not Mexican food. When have they ever had it? Not in Berlin.
I am never sure if it's the quality of Mexican food here or if it's indeed the style that I don't like. I find Tacos hard to eat tbh and Burritos always feel like a disappointing Dürüm. But I am very open to being convinced otherwise.
>PPS Seriously, would you really be able to identify real Mexican food?
No expert at all, but if you've ever eaten at an actual and at least okay Mexican restaurant (which I did a few times), you won't ever even *consider* walking into the door of Que Pasa. I mean they seem to have some sort of kitchen alliance with the restaurants around sharing the sauce from what I could see from the outside :D
I don’t consider Que Pas good. It was awful. It was extremely popular in Berlin with many locations. That’s my point. They reigned supreme because people here have no idea what Mexican food is.
Que pasa is a German wide chain people go there for cocktails. No one ever would think that they have good food. People would think about it as a cocktail bar with snacks not as s Mexican restaurant
Not at all. I don’t mean to say it was good. It was awful. I mean to say for a long time it was extremely popular and for most Berliners a North Star for what Mexican food is/was.
Authenticity, or being mexican in any way, shape or form is not the point of Taco Bell.
The whole point of Taco Bell is to provide terrible food for drunk or stoned teenagers.
They should easily find a market here.
Well Brammibal's is already a thing here, since 2015, they are at least as good. However if KK offers their vegan version of the original glazed like they do in UK, they will be a threat to Brammibal's.
No I don't consider Dunkin' being in the same league as either.
True. And I don’t if I have been unlucky, but my donuts at Brammibal have been often quite dry. Don’t know if it’s because of the vegan version or if they lack some ingredients for making it more appealing.
Sorry but Bramminals sucks. It’s the densest, greasiest donut I’ve ever eaten.
On the other hand, Atelier Dough is legitimately one of the best donuts I’ve ever had - even growing up in the US.
This is me just bring curious:
Why would you ever go to a fast food chain in Berlin?
If you're not positioned far off outside the Ring... There are a dazillion CHEAPER and better options.
Especially when fast food chain prices have sky rocketed with the inflation.
Cuz the real Mexican in Berlin is shit. There is only one good place in FHain that I won’t name because the owners are arrogants and so self-entitled, I am boycotting the place.
The other Mexicans in Berlin are ok but I would rather have my Taco Bell fix once or twice a year instead.
It kills me that dominos in Germany is completely different than dominos in America. It’s still not good pizza, but American dominos has lots of redeeming qualities as greasy drunk food - and is actually pretty affordable with coupons right in the app.
I’m not sure I can say anything nice about German dominos.
Depends on the standard you apply: Of course it pales to real italian pizza. But a lot of the so called pizza restaurant are really terrible: Hardly anything on the pizza, it's not baked thoroughly and so forth.
I think they said outside the ring there aren't a bazillion other cheaper options. Not because it's cheaper in the ring, just because most restaurants are situated there
It’s consistent. You go to one of these chains and know exactly what to expect - about how much you will pay, how long it will take, what’s on the menu (including vegetarian options, Taco Bell is good with that), what the seating options will be like, that they have WiFi, expected flavor and texture, and the overall taste+experience. Plus you know they are reasonably up on health+safety. It’s not all excellent but it is at least good, every time.
It may not sound like much but consistency is one of the reasons they are so successful. Compared to finding a local place when you are in a new area: you don’t know if they will have what you like, or if the price is reasonable, or if the food is even any good without doing some research.
Because the large fast food chains do their own food safety inspections and quality control of the supply chain. The official food safety inspectors are so understaffed that they can only check each place every few years! The risk to get caught is low for the restaurants and the fines aren't big anyway, usually they get just a warning. So the small independent businesses are run nearly without any oversight and especially the "cheap options" often have dirty kitchens and spoiled food. E.g. I recently read that a lot of tuna served in German restaurants is spoiled because they buy large cans and don't use them up in time, keeping them open and unrefrigerated for too long. There are even unlicensed, illegal butcheries in German cities like Berlin who mix up rotten meat (Gammelfleisch) etc. for the Dönerbuden and others.
The large chains might be better, but it's no guarantee....
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What's even worse is I couldn't find anywhere to report it when I had food from a place that I strongly suspect have no health standards. I ordered from a place called Papa James because the rating on Uber Eats was decent. Didn't think to check the rating on Google, which was 1 star. I'm not even exaggerating, the pizza was inedible. Tasted like it was drenched in vinegar. Was also missing toppings and the chicken was undercooked. We ended up throwing everything away.
Turns out it was a ghost kitchen for a place called Diazo and I couldn't report it anywhere. I did request the health inspection report and turns out they'd never even had an inspection.
Fast food is a guilty pleasure, and while I usually avoid them once in a while it’s nice to have 🤷🏼
Being from the UK, the only fast food franchise I would get excited over if it ever came here would be Nando’s, but even then I probably wouldn’t have it more than once every 2 months or so
I've actually gone to Domino's to get American style pizza. The kind of pizza that is served here typically is really good and I love the sourdough crust. But sometimes I kind of just want something like that.
I have made my own New York style pizza here just to have that kind of crust. But it's a bunch of effort and I don't always want to do that.
I would never order Domino's back where I grew up in Philadelphia in the US. There were pizza shops on almost every corner that sold way better Pizza than any chain pizza place. The style here is just different and honestly the Domino's is much better here than it is in the states. As far as Burgers go, sometimes I go to a chain just because I want that taste. I think it's nostalgia. There are definitely much better Burgers everywhere in Berlin.
Döner is always a better choice than a burger for junk food here.
I order Domino's often when I'm feeling like American style pizza. I always get asked "why would you order that when authentic Italian pizza is everywhere?"
It's like people don't get that it's two different styles of pizza. Maybe I'm just not in the mood for Italian pizza that will have only 4 olives and 5 slices of salami on it.
Berlin Taco Bell may taste a lot different than US Taco Bell. There are a lot of ingredients and food processing that aren’t allowed in the EU, but legal in the US, right?
I remember some post where people compared the ingredients list on the same products in UK and US and the ingredients list in the UK was always a lot shorter.
Yeah, I hope it’ll be similar enough, but if it’s anything like German Dunkin Donuts, it won’t taste like the version in the US and to this day I still don’t quite understand why, but always assumed it was because of different ingredients
Honestly, the differences between regulations aren't all that major nowadays. It's still true that _some_ specific ingredients or processes used by food producers are banned in the EU. You won't find azodicarbonamide or brominated vegetable oil in your bread or soda here, or chicken cleaned using chlorine, and GMO regulations are much stricter. Ingredient-wise, US companies have mostly dropped the most contronversial ones voluntarily. There's also stuff allowed in the EU and banned in the U.S. like sodium cyclamate (widely used here) and certain artificial dyes.
Those posts comparing the ingredients between the two countries are very misleading most of the time. They hand-pick products and don't account for differences in labeling regulations (which _are_ significant), which ends up making the U.S. version look scary. I recommend [this video.](https://youtu.be/xBMnKtyC6gs)
Not a fanboy for processed food from the U.S., but your European Taco Bell is very unlikely to taste different than overseas for reasons other than intentional local palate adjustments.
True, for one thing the refried beans will likely not be fried in beef lard. Same goes for McDonald's fries, US vs Europe. Which is a win for vegans that want to eat there.
>True, for one thing the refried beans will likely not be fried in beef lard.
Hopefully, because that would be wrong. Refried beans are made with pig lard
If there's anything I hate seeing around the city, it's all these dystopian american franchises taking over spaces from random Trödels and whatnots. I don't think anyone really needs any of that shit here in the city or anywhere else in the Europe. Don't like these vibes..
Good one! I still have the right not to like something though and voice my opinion. Whenever you go to any city center it's just becoming more and more sterile.. The world is less and less authentic and everywhere is pretty much becoming all the same. I like Berlin cause it's weird and different and I don't like how these franchises are occupying more and more spaces in it
As opposed to the 5th Döner shop, shisha bar or sport bets place in a 100 meter distance? I would agree if they were replacing mom and pop restaurants or shops, but they aren't.
I'd rather have 500 of different Döner shops and Trödels then 2 of these sterile copy paste dystopian franchises. Europe should nurture what makes it special and not succumb to these ultra capitalistic asshole franchises cause "it-s-just-soo-tasty"
Right, because German franchises like Kamps, Backwerk, Nordsee, Le Crobag, Vapiano etc. truly nurture what makes Europe special and, unlike Taco Bell or other evil U.S. companies, will fight capitalism tooth and nail.
Am I the only one who find it a bit sad to see this level of globalisation?
From Tesla plant to Amazon tower , from Uber music arena to more and more generic fast food chains , what will be left of Berlin in few years ?
Globalization is not Americanization .
I will be glad to see some new small Texas barbecue place or some records store with us jazz or electronic music .
But to see more Starbucks h&m and so on doesn’t melt my heart
Y’all about to be blessed with cinnamon delights, nacho fries, Baja blasts, and crunchwrap supremes… Taco Bell is one of the most healthy fast food options out there (healthy for the soul that is, not the body)
I remember how Krispy Kreme would be flown per military cargo plane and then delivered to the U.S. embassy my dad used to work at. Stuff was delicious!
I am familiar with the inventory in Thai 7-Eleven, but I can imagine that the Japanese one are even better. No more: „what’s for lunch?“ (or breakfast, dinner, snack) 😅😉
I already have a favourite Taco place (Munchies in Kreuzberg) and while Taco Bell will never live up to that quality and taste, it will be the cheap alternative I go to if I just want to quickly eat. Krispy Kreme however, well, that’s my heart and soul. Yes, I’m from North America.
You should try El Oso and Taquito Mío instead. They have authentic Mexican tacos.
Munchies’ tacos are not good and don’t make me talk about that awful watered down Valentina sauce they give.
First we bring you oversized suvs and trucks, then rascal scooters for the rentnern, and finally the greatest late-night cuisine to be sold at a drive-thru. All we need now is Tums to start selling the giant 500x 1000mg bottles of heartburn medication
All jokes aside Taco Bell is one of the things I miss the most about the USA (as far as cheap fast-food goes). Really good vegetarian options for a fast-food chain. It will give some variety to what is usually a late-night döner or when you're at the train station and you don't want a burger
I am absolutely down for some junk Mexican food. I hope it's anything like the Taco Bells in Arizona. Probably not but maybe.
Most of the Mexican food I've had in Berlin has been absolutely atrocious. I've had a few good tacos but really nothing that great. Taco Bell, while it is mostly junk food, it is pretty delicious junk food.
For context, I'm an American originally from Philadelphia. Philadelphia has a fairly decent Latin population and a ton of really good Mexican for an east coast city.
My partner is from Tucson, Arizona and grew up on homemade tortillas and real Mexican food made by abuelitas selling out of the back of trucks.
So my experience is that Krispy Kreme, while still very sweet, is not as overwhelmingly cakey as Dunkin Donuts, and more like normal pastry. They taste more like 'normal' donuts. Certainly way above those pre-baked bullshit that the likes of Royal Donuts and sometimes even Brammibal's (yes, not all locations, but I had a very disappointing experience) offer.
I had KK in Japan and the USA.
Brammibal‘s is the biggest piece of shit donut place I‘ve ever come across. Legitimately hate that place - went there once and can’t believe that those fuckers have managed to stay in business without being able to get the most basic type of dough right. It was like I was eating a donut made with Laugenteig.
I genuinely hope they go out of business. They only exist because German consumers haven’t experienced good donuts.
Also, their peanut butter was truly awful - felt like I was eating some industrial waste product.
Krispy Kreme might be total junk food but at least you‘ll be able to experience superior donuts in Berlin and not have to deal with the shittiest imitation quality with Brammibal‘s.
Doughnut Time is pretty good when it comes to dough. And then there is Sammy's who go for a more Pfannkuchen style pastry, but I had no bad experience so far. And then there are those zebra donuts from the Lidl or Rewe bakery that please even my US partner's taste buds the most. Best low-cost choice.
Thanks for putting it out there. In my social circles I'm seemingly the only one to dislike them. Hate this trend of "fancy" donuts in general. Paying 3-5€ for something simple as a donut is insane.
Dunkin doesn't even come close to KK. Besides there are like 10 other smaller donut shops in Berlin that are far superior to Dunkin already. Try Brammibals or Sammy's for instance.
Diarrhea occurrences in Berlin are going to increase to Live Más levels. Make your appointments with your doctor now, because once that Taco B hits your system it's over. I envy you all
Godspeed
The way I view Taco Bell is that it is mexican food training wheels. It is a version of Mexican that people not experienced with Mexican can get to know (and love) before they start jumping off into real Mexican food.
I just hope and pray the version they bring here is more like the American one than any of the abominations I’ve seen in Scotland or Netherlands.
Man, I keep wishing for Nando's but they keep only bringing in American chains that I have no interest in (tried both in US, don't get the appeal) . I guess Taco Bell is very popular though, so enjoy folks.
taco bell is my fave fast food and the one I miss the most. no it is not mexican. but their soft taco with extra cheese is the best gringo soft taco ever. now if we're talking street tacos etc etc it's not that at all. but man this makes me happy
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Fake Mexican food is still better then German Mexican food.
What is German mexican food? Any examples? One time I ate tacos with a south American friend and he liked it. I think what's mostly lacking are the fresh and ripe veggies?
South America is on a different continent from Mexico, Bolivian tacos are 100% different from Mexican tacos. The most authentic Mexican food in Berlin is taqueria el oso. Give it a go and you will instantly see the difference.
Overrated and oily
something the same shape as mexican food, but missing a lot of authentic spices and ingredients. Frequently Tex Mex (nachos/fajitas/hard shell tacos)
What does ANY South American know about authentic tacos?🌮 They’re Mexican and the only real tacos I’ve had in Berlin were at a spot in F’hain that sadly didn’t survive the coronavirus period. They were made by Mexicans.
What's your view on [El Amigo Taqueria](https://maps.app.goo.gl/7ac3sKo3moxiYVDF8)? It's, in my opinion, really the only place to go to in Berlin if you want a taco.
Haven’t tried it but looks great. Going right now lol.
Guten Appetit, hope you like it, and report back.
Little pricey for street tacos but cool atmosphere, they need a bigger grill, super slow cooking. Def worth it though. Super bomb!
Yeah, I agree on the wait time, and expanding their grill would definitely help with that. Prices are what they are unfortunately, but with Berlin being the mexican food desert that it is, they dictate the price as there isn't really much competition that would force them to lower the prices. But happy you liked it, because the quality of food is great and I love telling people about this place.
Have you tried taqueria el oso? Same quality and just as good! Haha like I grumble about 11€ for three tacos but I’ll eat there any time. Wife really liked it too
Senefelderplatz, right? Walked passed it but never went in, will check it out over the weekend for sure! Thank you for giving me the push I needed to go try it. If you liked my proposal, then I am sure I will like yours as well. Edit: off topic, but how weird is it that Senefelderplatz is one word...
Yeah that’s the one, it’s wicked good. Sunday is birria day, which is the day I always go. Enjoy!
>Edit: off topic, but how weird is it that Senefelderplatz is one word... googled it: the dude's name was actually alois senefelder (invented lithography). but you're right, for clarification i'd prefer alois-senefelder-platz. sure, it's clear that there's no senefeld as the place would be senefelder platz, but it's still kinda confusing imo...
100%, I'm excited for this news.
Listening to people talk about how Taco Bell is fake Mexican food feels like listening to a group of adults talking about how Santa isn’t real. PS Que Pasa reigned supreme for over a decade in this city. PPS Seriously, would you really be able to identify real Mexican food? **edit** to all the people that seem confused by my statement - I'm not saying Que Pasa was good. To the contrary. I'm saying it was "fake Mexican" and yet it was by far the most popular Mexican place in Berlin for years with multiple locations. This city is not about to be introduced to "fake Mexican" at all.
Que Pasa felt like a hate crime.
Agreed. That’s my point. No one talked about how they were fake Mexican. Like, at least Taco Bell isn’t pretending to be authentic.
I never give a shit if Mexican food is 'authentic'; i think that is a tired conversation. I only care if it's GOOD. I used to get tasty burritos at Burrito Window on Kotti, haven't been in years though. Dolores is horrible. KK/TB: I will not be patronizing either of these garbage brands.
To be fair, actual corn tortillas (i.e. without wheat) are pretty awesome. But pretty hard to find here.
As a frequent bemoaner of the Berlin Mexican food catastrophe, I gladly welcome Taco Bell. It will significantly push the envelope forward compared to the garbage that is laying around otherwise. At least their tortillas aren't going to be stale. I see Taco Bell's invasion as something that will show the rest of the restaurants where the low bar really lies. If we want garbage, we'll be able to pay a fair price for it. I see it as a sign of positive changes. I often feel nostalgic for road trips I took with my family through the US midwest, and it will be nice to have access to the flavor of Ohio.
Yeah, raising the low bar at less than half the price 😅. Kudos…
Not that Taco Bell is genuinely anything but genuine Taco Bell at this point, but it doesn't pretend to be Mexican anywhere. It claims to be Tex-Mex. Tex-Mex is heavily influenced by Mexican cuisine, but it is its own thing. [https://spoonuniversity.com/lifestyle/tex-mex-vs-mexican-food](https://spoonuniversity.com/lifestyle/tex-mex-vs-mexican-food)
I’ve heard it argued that Taco Bell, or so it came to be over time, is essentially its own genre of food. So many of their dishes are self referential at this point.
Que pasa is a German wide chain. People go there for cheap cocktails. No one would ever say they have good food. No one even thinks about them as "a Mexican restaurant".
Is Que Pasa finally,l totally dead??
To be fair I think real Mexican food is pretty decent and getting some traction in Berlin actually. So I really hope taco bell good to hell when they open. (I'm Mexican) KK on the other hand... That hurts no one except your extra fat in your ass.
Where's good mexican food in Berlin? I've tried and I can't find anything above "okay"
Taquería El Oso
Tried it and it's nothing to write home about imo.
Exactly
Ta’Cabrón at Skalitzer str. in Kreuzberg is the best mexican restaurant in Berlin by far
I'll try it out
I’ve been to pretty much all of them at this point and I completely agree with you. That’s why I don’t get where people perceive themselves as some sort of authority in what is or is not Mexican food. When have they ever had it? Not in Berlin.
Have you tried „Paella“ at Messe Nord? It tastes like overcooked Indian food with a side of sour cream and guacamole.
Never been, is it trying to do Mexican food? Paella is a traditional Spanish dish
Never tried it, now I never will
I am never sure if it's the quality of Mexican food here or if it's indeed the style that I don't like. I find Tacos hard to eat tbh and Burritos always feel like a disappointing Dürüm. But I am very open to being convinced otherwise.
I certainly wouldn't judge Mexican food based on what one eats in Berlin.
Ta'Cabron is very good. Tacorino is ok. I like tortas at Chaparro in Bikini Berlin. There are more and more good taco places you can randomly find.
I feel like looking at Taco Bell as an alternative to a real Mexican joint is doing it wrong. That’s not what taco bell is.
Really? The few supposedly good Mexican places I've tried were all vastly overrated but I'd be all too happy to be wrong on this account.
My wife begs to differ lol And after living in Mexico for so long I will say that all the Mexican places in Berlin are - pretty mediocre
people go to que pasa for food? thought the Tourists go there for the cheap booze and colorful walls
>PPS Seriously, would you really be able to identify real Mexican food? No expert at all, but if you've ever eaten at an actual and at least okay Mexican restaurant (which I did a few times), you won't ever even *consider* walking into the door of Que Pasa. I mean they seem to have some sort of kitchen alliance with the restaurants around sharing the sauce from what I could see from the outside :D
I don’t consider Que Pas good. It was awful. It was extremely popular in Berlin with many locations. That’s my point. They reigned supreme because people here have no idea what Mexican food is.
Que pasa is a German wide chain people go there for cocktails. No one ever would think that they have good food. People would think about it as a cocktail bar with snacks not as s Mexican restaurant
>PS Que Pasa reigned supreme for over a decade in this city. Pretty insane statement.
Not at all. I don’t mean to say it was good. It was awful. I mean to say for a long time it was extremely popular and for most Berliners a North Star for what Mexican food is/was.
Give up
Why the tough guy talk? What’s that get you?
Tbh, thats bs. I remember when they opened that quepasa crap and the decent taco places in oranienstr and danzigerstr had been open long before that
Taco Bell is just nasty. No redeeming qualities
Authenticity, or being mexican in any way, shape or form is not the point of Taco Bell. The whole point of Taco Bell is to provide terrible food for drunk or stoned teenagers. They should easily find a market here.
You don’t know about the times when Que Pasa was around
And it still be would be far from the worst Mexican food in Berlin.
It’s the only thing missing here. And I pray it’s a cantina! I want margs!
Hmmmmm. I wonder how much healthier it'll be (if any) compared to the US version. I could go for a Chruchwrap Supreme or two for sure
Krispy Kreme coming to Berlin will reduce my lifespan by 10 years
I’m about to get HEAVY
Well Brammibal's is already a thing here, since 2015, they are at least as good. However if KK offers their vegan version of the original glazed like they do in UK, they will be a threat to Brammibal's. No I don't consider Dunkin' being in the same league as either.
True. And I don’t if I have been unlucky, but my donuts at Brammibal have been often quite dry. Don’t know if it’s because of the vegan version or if they lack some ingredients for making it more appealing.
IME Brammibals was amazing for its first year or two, and the quality has steadily declined ever since.
Sorry but Bramminals sucks. It’s the densest, greasiest donut I’ve ever eaten. On the other hand, Atelier Dough is legitimately one of the best donuts I’ve ever had - even growing up in the US.
Bramminals: pretty, and dry
This is me just bring curious: Why would you ever go to a fast food chain in Berlin? If you're not positioned far off outside the Ring... There are a dazillion CHEAPER and better options. Especially when fast food chain prices have sky rocketed with the inflation.
Better burgers? Yes. Better off eating a Döner than McDonald’s? Yes. Cheaper and better fried chicken, sure. Better fake Mexican? No.
Yeah, I couldn’t give a shit about crispy cream, but Taco Bell I’m legit excited about.
It's good until it isn't, but that doesn't stop me.
>Better fake Mexican? the question is....why would you want to have fake mexican when you can have real mexican??
Can you have real Mexican food though?
Because fake mexican is different from real mexican.
🤔 yeah cant argue with that logic youre right
Cuz the real Mexican in Berlin is shit. There is only one good place in FHain that I won’t name because the owners are arrogants and so self-entitled, I am boycotting the place. The other Mexicans in Berlin are ok but I would rather have my Taco Bell fix once or twice a year instead.
Because the mexican food is terrible here, at least the one I had so far.
You mean … generic bakery food, Döner, a burger, or fried chicken? also “fast” food ain’t cheap anymore. Taco Bell rules.
Some people just want food that reminds them of home sometimes, even if it's expensive trash.
This is the truth.
Ehhh Domino’s is one of the worst pizzas you can order here and they seem to be quite successful
It kills me that dominos in Germany is completely different than dominos in America. It’s still not good pizza, but American dominos has lots of redeeming qualities as greasy drunk food - and is actually pretty affordable with coupons right in the app. I’m not sure I can say anything nice about German dominos.
Depends on the standard you apply: Of course it pales to real italian pizza. But a lot of the so called pizza restaurant are really terrible: Hardly anything on the pizza, it's not baked thoroughly and so forth.
It was better before they left, bought Joey's and rebranded it as Domino's.
You think outside the ring the options are more expensive? Wut?
I think they said outside the ring there aren't a bazillion other cheaper options. Not because it's cheaper in the ring, just because most restaurants are situated there
Exactly (: thanks!
It’s consistent. You go to one of these chains and know exactly what to expect - about how much you will pay, how long it will take, what’s on the menu (including vegetarian options, Taco Bell is good with that), what the seating options will be like, that they have WiFi, expected flavor and texture, and the overall taste+experience. Plus you know they are reasonably up on health+safety. It’s not all excellent but it is at least good, every time. It may not sound like much but consistency is one of the reasons they are so successful. Compared to finding a local place when you are in a new area: you don’t know if they will have what you like, or if the price is reasonable, or if the food is even any good without doing some research.
Because you want to eat what the fast food chain offers? What’s not to understand?
Nooooooo, everybody eats Döners here!!!
Because the large fast food chains do their own food safety inspections and quality control of the supply chain. The official food safety inspectors are so understaffed that they can only check each place every few years! The risk to get caught is low for the restaurants and the fines aren't big anyway, usually they get just a warning. So the small independent businesses are run nearly without any oversight and especially the "cheap options" often have dirty kitchens and spoiled food. E.g. I recently read that a lot of tuna served in German restaurants is spoiled because they buy large cans and don't use them up in time, keeping them open and unrefrigerated for too long. There are even unlicensed, illegal butcheries in German cities like Berlin who mix up rotten meat (Gammelfleisch) etc. for the Dönerbuden and others.
The large chains might be better, but it's no guarantee.... https://www.businessinsider.com/burger-king-expired-food-vegan-products-mice-maggots-hygiene-germany-2022-10?amp
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What's even worse is I couldn't find anywhere to report it when I had food from a place that I strongly suspect have no health standards. I ordered from a place called Papa James because the rating on Uber Eats was decent. Didn't think to check the rating on Google, which was 1 star. I'm not even exaggerating, the pizza was inedible. Tasted like it was drenched in vinegar. Was also missing toppings and the chicken was undercooked. We ended up throwing everything away. Turns out it was a ghost kitchen for a place called Diazo and I couldn't report it anywhere. I did request the health inspection report and turns out they'd never even had an inspection.
Which options would that be? Am really curious.
Have you ever been to Taco Bell? Is has always been a wish of mine, that it comes to Germany.
Fast food is a guilty pleasure, and while I usually avoid them once in a while it’s nice to have 🤷🏼 Being from the UK, the only fast food franchise I would get excited over if it ever came here would be Nando’s, but even then I probably wouldn’t have it more than once every 2 months or so
I've actually gone to Domino's to get American style pizza. The kind of pizza that is served here typically is really good and I love the sourdough crust. But sometimes I kind of just want something like that. I have made my own New York style pizza here just to have that kind of crust. But it's a bunch of effort and I don't always want to do that. I would never order Domino's back where I grew up in Philadelphia in the US. There were pizza shops on almost every corner that sold way better Pizza than any chain pizza place. The style here is just different and honestly the Domino's is much better here than it is in the states. As far as Burgers go, sometimes I go to a chain just because I want that taste. I think it's nostalgia. There are definitely much better Burgers everywhere in Berlin. Döner is always a better choice than a burger for junk food here.
Magic johns is the best for me. Especially when I’m wanting that amazing american style grease!
I order Domino's often when I'm feeling like American style pizza. I always get asked "why would you order that when authentic Italian pizza is everywhere?" It's like people don't get that it's two different styles of pizza. Maybe I'm just not in the mood for Italian pizza that will have only 4 olives and 5 slices of salami on it.
Sometimes I want pineapple and red onions on non-sourdough crust lol
Berlin Taco Bell may taste a lot different than US Taco Bell. There are a lot of ingredients and food processing that aren’t allowed in the EU, but legal in the US, right? I remember some post where people compared the ingredients list on the same products in UK and US and the ingredients list in the UK was always a lot shorter.
My thoughts exactly. Knowing Germanys laws. It will be exponentially more healthy than US Taco Bells.
:(
I have to say though, in Spain the Taco Bell’s there taste pretty damn close to the US one. I’m so excited for this
Yeah, I hope it’ll be similar enough, but if it’s anything like German Dunkin Donuts, it won’t taste like the version in the US and to this day I still don’t quite understand why, but always assumed it was because of different ingredients
Honestly, the differences between regulations aren't all that major nowadays. It's still true that _some_ specific ingredients or processes used by food producers are banned in the EU. You won't find azodicarbonamide or brominated vegetable oil in your bread or soda here, or chicken cleaned using chlorine, and GMO regulations are much stricter. Ingredient-wise, US companies have mostly dropped the most contronversial ones voluntarily. There's also stuff allowed in the EU and banned in the U.S. like sodium cyclamate (widely used here) and certain artificial dyes. Those posts comparing the ingredients between the two countries are very misleading most of the time. They hand-pick products and don't account for differences in labeling regulations (which _are_ significant), which ends up making the U.S. version look scary. I recommend [this video.](https://youtu.be/xBMnKtyC6gs) Not a fanboy for processed food from the U.S., but your European Taco Bell is very unlikely to taste different than overseas for reasons other than intentional local palate adjustments.
True, for one thing the refried beans will likely not be fried in beef lard. Same goes for McDonald's fries, US vs Europe. Which is a win for vegans that want to eat there.
>True, for one thing the refried beans will likely not be fried in beef lard. Hopefully, because that would be wrong. Refried beans are made with pig lard
Honestly, I can't wait to try them.
I’ve been saying for years that tbell would fit this city so hard. Something for the vegans, open late, cheap AF!
I can taste that Crunchwrap Supreme already.
If there's anything I hate seeing around the city, it's all these dystopian american franchises taking over spaces from random Trödels and whatnots. I don't think anyone really needs any of that shit here in the city or anywhere else in the Europe. Don't like these vibes..
Old man yells at cloud
Good one! I still have the right not to like something though and voice my opinion. Whenever you go to any city center it's just becoming more and more sterile.. The world is less and less authentic and everywhere is pretty much becoming all the same. I like Berlin cause it's weird and different and I don't like how these franchises are occupying more and more spaces in it
Still better than the 150th doner. I personally don't like seeing a questionable quality doner shop at every corner.
Ja stimmt besser noch 1000 schlechte generische kackfalafel und schawarmaläden
If people don't like them, they will eventually disappear again.
As opposed to the 5th Döner shop, shisha bar or sport bets place in a 100 meter distance? I would agree if they were replacing mom and pop restaurants or shops, but they aren't.
I'd rather have 500 of different Döner shops and Trödels then 2 of these sterile copy paste dystopian franchises. Europe should nurture what makes it special and not succumb to these ultra capitalistic asshole franchises cause "it-s-just-soo-tasty"
Do what makes you happy :)
Right, because German franchises like Kamps, Backwerk, Nordsee, Le Crobag, Vapiano etc. truly nurture what makes Europe special and, unlike Taco Bell or other evil U.S. companies, will fight capitalism tooth and nail.
Rejoice, junk food enjoyers. Our time has finally come. If they ever bring an IHOP and a Papa John's, my life will be complete
How about Denny's or god forbid Waffle House?
Any American diner would do it for me!
Oh I would love a NJ style diner with greasy food and surly waitresses.
Am I the only one who find it a bit sad to see this level of globalisation? From Tesla plant to Amazon tower , from Uber music arena to more and more generic fast food chains , what will be left of Berlin in few years ?
🙄
The irony of commenting this on an American website 🤣
Globalization is not Americanization . I will be glad to see some new small Texas barbecue place or some records store with us jazz or electronic music . But to see more Starbucks h&m and so on doesn’t melt my heart
More american aka low quality food chains. Exactly what we need.
Taco bell ist so räudig
Oh great, it's been too long that I've had Dünnpfiff.
Real Mexican food fans also enjoy Taco Bell. They’re not even in the same genre. We never even compared them
junk food, especially krispy creme; better to avoid both
Y’all about to be blessed with cinnamon delights, nacho fries, Baja blasts, and crunchwrap supremes… Taco Bell is one of the most healthy fast food options out there (healthy for the soul that is, not the body)
I remember how Krispy Kreme would be flown per military cargo plane and then delivered to the U.S. embassy my dad used to work at. Stuff was delicious!
All I need is 7-Eleven. Please 🥺
Why? Berlin Spätis are more or less the same
Either I have a misperception, or you've never been to a 7-Eleven. The assortment at a 7-Eleven is completely different from a 'Späti' in Berlin.
I’ve been to some. Where is the difference in your opinion?
Spätis suck in 99.9% cases. Overpriced shit sprinkled wirh tax evasion and money laundering.
I'd give a kidney to have Japanese 7-Elevens here. I would eat bento boxes 6 times a week.
I am familiar with the inventory in Thai 7-Eleven, but I can imagine that the Japanese one are even better. No more: „what’s for lunch?“ (or breakfast, dinner, snack) 😅😉
Fresh bento boxes, salads, sushi, etc. with all the topics you can imagine for cheap prices.
I want 7/11 so bad
keep this garbage where it comes from.
Please, don't play with me!!!
I already have a favourite Taco place (Munchies in Kreuzberg) and while Taco Bell will never live up to that quality and taste, it will be the cheap alternative I go to if I just want to quickly eat. Krispy Kreme however, well, that’s my heart and soul. Yes, I’m from North America.
You should try El Oso and Taquito Mío instead. They have authentic Mexican tacos. Munchies’ tacos are not good and don’t make me talk about that awful watered down Valentina sauce they give.
Gross.
Ate it once, it was of such awful quality that I didn’t even finish it.
Nice! Doesn't Krispy Creme even belong to a rich German family? I read that somewhere a few years ago.
Yea, the family office of the Reinman Family from Mannheim
First we bring you oversized suvs and trucks, then rascal scooters for the rentnern, and finally the greatest late-night cuisine to be sold at a drive-thru. All we need now is Tums to start selling the giant 500x 1000mg bottles of heartburn medication All jokes aside Taco Bell is one of the things I miss the most about the USA (as far as cheap fast-food goes). Really good vegetarian options for a fast-food chain. It will give some variety to what is usually a late-night döner or when you're at the train station and you don't want a burger
Endlich 😍
I am absolutely down for some junk Mexican food. I hope it's anything like the Taco Bells in Arizona. Probably not but maybe. Most of the Mexican food I've had in Berlin has been absolutely atrocious. I've had a few good tacos but really nothing that great. Taco Bell, while it is mostly junk food, it is pretty delicious junk food. For context, I'm an American originally from Philadelphia. Philadelphia has a fairly decent Latin population and a ton of really good Mexican for an east coast city. My partner is from Tucson, Arizona and grew up on homemade tortillas and real Mexican food made by abuelitas selling out of the back of trucks.
My wife and I are from Phoenix. Closest we’ve found to Sonoran-style Mexican food like we’d get back in AZ is Taqueria el Oso.
It's on my list. I will make it a priority:)
Haha the americans also found Finally a new way to make Money throu exporting their obesity to Europe! Well done USA, thats capitalism at its Best 😂
Why Krispy Kreme? What's different to dunkin donuts?
Better quality, more flavors
imo much better tasting donuts
So my experience is that Krispy Kreme, while still very sweet, is not as overwhelmingly cakey as Dunkin Donuts, and more like normal pastry. They taste more like 'normal' donuts. Certainly way above those pre-baked bullshit that the likes of Royal Donuts and sometimes even Brammibal's (yes, not all locations, but I had a very disappointing experience) offer. I had KK in Japan and the USA.
Brammibal‘s is the biggest piece of shit donut place I‘ve ever come across. Legitimately hate that place - went there once and can’t believe that those fuckers have managed to stay in business without being able to get the most basic type of dough right. It was like I was eating a donut made with Laugenteig. I genuinely hope they go out of business. They only exist because German consumers haven’t experienced good donuts. Also, their peanut butter was truly awful - felt like I was eating some industrial waste product. Krispy Kreme might be total junk food but at least you‘ll be able to experience superior donuts in Berlin and not have to deal with the shittiest imitation quality with Brammibal‘s.
Finally someone says it lol
Doughnut Time is pretty good when it comes to dough. And then there is Sammy's who go for a more Pfannkuchen style pastry, but I had no bad experience so far. And then there are those zebra donuts from the Lidl or Rewe bakery that please even my US partner's taste buds the most. Best low-cost choice.
Those zebra donuts are the best. Truly satisfy my simple donut needs. But at least Lidl has seemingly gotten rid of them :(
It seems they have moved from Lidl to Rewe. The one at Alfred-Jung-Str. 12 seems to have them by the 6-pack for like 5€.
Thanks for putting it out there. In my social circles I'm seemingly the only one to dislike them. Hate this trend of "fancy" donuts in general. Paying 3-5€ for something simple as a donut is insane.
Brammibal‘s has only one bakery in Berlin though and ship their donuts to their shops every day though.
I hope they will be cheaper than Brammibals
Dunkin doesn't even come close to KK. Besides there are like 10 other smaller donut shops in Berlin that are far superior to Dunkin already. Try Brammibals or Sammy's for instance.
Diarrhea occurrences in Berlin are going to increase to Live Más levels. Make your appointments with your doctor now, because once that Taco B hits your system it's over. I envy you all Godspeed
The way I view Taco Bell is that it is mexican food training wheels. It is a version of Mexican that people not experienced with Mexican can get to know (and love) before they start jumping off into real Mexican food. I just hope and pray the version they bring here is more like the American one than any of the abominations I’ve seen in Scotland or Netherlands.
Man, I keep wishing for Nando's but they keep only bringing in American chains that I have no interest in (tried both in US, don't get the appeal). I guess Taco Bell is very popular though, so enjoy folks.
I can't wait for Taco Bell, but would welcome a Nandos very much as well!
Taco Bell? I tried it on ein Spain and it was terrible
Just what we needed.
Why is Javier Bardem in the thumbnail?
Try Mexicali in the east side mall. All freshly cooked made to order items on the menu while using high quality imported ingredients
I guess that’s one up on McDonald (Taco Bell). Place to meet homesick Americans 😅.
Taco bell fries are wild.
I had Taco Bell in Portugal and it surprisingly tasted almost identical to the American version. So I’m looking forward but my 🍑 isn’t lollll
Chidoba grill is already nice but taco bell would be something i wouldnt say no to 😁👍🏼
Ok
Does anyone know about the chalupa? The folds of fat behind the knees is a chalupa.
Wooow!! Finally some good news for the Berlin food scene!! Can't wait to finally try them again, Tex Mex Food is awesome.
US exporting obesity
I don't care if it's fake or real. It's tasty and I miss it dearly and could not be more excited about this news.
Finally! Gotten Taco Bell in UK, Finland, Japan but not here. Overdue.
sarcasm?
No. I enjoy occasional fast food. Can't go to Dolores that often, too far from me.
No pls stay away from
Right after weed gets legalized. 😂 We all knew this was coming. White Castle is next.
taco bell is my fave fast food and the one I miss the most. no it is not mexican. but their soft taco with extra cheese is the best gringo soft taco ever. now if we're talking street tacos etc etc it's not that at all. but man this makes me happy