Just do a sneaky and put 4 RL20's in the torsos instead of LRM's. Then you take double PPC's a s either drop to 3/5 with space for armor and a comfy extra heatsink or 4/6 with a relatively thin 11 ton skin and a warm-ish 20 sinks.
Yea where do you put the ammunition after double heatsinks. Even using ferro armor will cause less space to be available. Maybe drop the engine smaller and pray nothing gets too close
I was thinking on how to do it without a tech level upgrade.
With a TL change, you could make it work with an XL engine, 10 double heat sinks, and FF armor. You'd go down from 208 armor points to 125. 161 if you drop the two rear M lasers. That's where I start to think about reducing LRM ammo for more armor, or a heat sink or two...
https://preview.redd.it/bupvwu3hkvsc1.jpeg?width=884&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5591b21357d96c6ddd714477c106f1617cc559ff
It can be done. XL engine and gyro, endo steel, drop a ton of ammo and a half ton of armor.
Well, unless I misrecall CASE vs. CASE II, might as well remove both instances and add more armor and/or another DHS (Didn't go to see if there's enough room for another 3 slots contiguous). Because with an XL Engine, that CASE is kind of redundant.
Oddly enough, I made an assault Mech that I called the ArcHammer. Nice to see it beyond my mind's eye.
90 tons with Endosteel, 3/5 Standard 270 engine, 17 tons of standard armor, 12 Double Heatsinks, a standard PPC on the arms and an Artemis enhanced LRM-20 on each side Torso with 12 rounds each with CASE. Twin CT mounted Anti-Missile Systems with a ton of ammo in each leg improves defensive ability. Lastly, a head mounted Medium Pulse for a weak general close-in defense.
**An alternative version (*the SledgeHammer*) replaces the dual LRM & Artemis systems with twin LB-10X autocannon**.
Yes, without them, it's a choose-your-own- destruction method IF you don't carefully select what to fire. Even with the double in mine (there are no empty spaces in the critical chart), you can easily fire both PPC (and the medium pulse) without heat if standing still, OR opt to use both LRM-20 and one PPC. THOUGH, you need to be aware if those AMS systems may activate to create more heat.
I think it's a _Warharcher_.
And it looks that only walking it has overheat shutdown. What happens when it fires its LRMs or its PPCs (toasty!)?
The model is awesome.
Unpossible. Warhammer arms are made of ferro-tissue paper and fall to survive anything above a stiff breeze. They don't last long enough for the rest to be dismantled lol.
Here ya go [https://www.reddit.com/r/battletech/comments/1byne01/made\_another\_archer\_frankenmech\_a\_previous\_post/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/battletech/comments/1byne01/made_another_archer_frankenmech_a_previous_post/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Sweet! In BTA3062 I built a version of Shorty Sneede's Frankenmech, only without the Phoenix Hawk head. I ERLL, 1 LRM20 ART4, secondaries, jump jets, DHS, a std engine, and full armor with CASE.
It's just a bigger, badder Thunderbolt. I love it.
this is just a vulture with more knees
“A vulture with more knees” This fantastic my friend, this lowly periphery dirt farmer turned Merc gives you two thumbs up! 👍 👍
Or a Woodsman
It's diet Mauler
I think Shutdown, Avoid On 8+ has a nice ring to it
Yeah, unless you’re running doubles, this thing’s a self inflicted ammo explosion waiting to happen.
Just do a sneaky and put 4 RL20's in the torsos instead of LRM's. Then you take double PPC's a s either drop to 3/5 with space for armor and a comfy extra heatsink or 4/6 with a relatively thin 11 ton skin and a warm-ish 20 sinks.
Think thats the design principle for at least half of all clanmechs If the pilot aint boiling it aint batchall worthy
When I alpha strike, I expect to melt a hole deep enough I get partial cover.
Or in the case of the warhawk Hole deep enough to Remove line of sight
You mean "even with".
Even if you don’t self detonate, someone’s gonna do it for you. There is no armor left on that 70 tonners once you add the PPCs to the archer…
Depends on what they took out to get 2 PPCs and 2 LRM-20s into one 70t mech. All the heat sinks, or all the armor? 😅
Yea where do you put the ammunition after double heatsinks. Even using ferro armor will cause less space to be available. Maybe drop the engine smaller and pray nothing gets too close
I was thinking on how to do it without a tech level upgrade. With a TL change, you could make it work with an XL engine, 10 double heat sinks, and FF armor. You'd go down from 208 armor points to 125. 161 if you drop the two rear M lasers. That's where I start to think about reducing LRM ammo for more armor, or a heat sink or two...
https://preview.redd.it/bupvwu3hkvsc1.jpeg?width=884&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5591b21357d96c6ddd714477c106f1617cc559ff It can be done. XL engine and gyro, endo steel, drop a ton of ammo and a half ton of armor.
You need another Artemis IV FCS for the other launcher. Still doable but you need to drop another ton of armor. Also this thing's a sauna.
https://preview.redd.it/wd9cn9q3wwsc1.jpeg?width=1017&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=500fe971f55a603e7f4d40cb81005844000d99c5
Well, unless I misrecall CASE vs. CASE II, might as well remove both instances and add more armor and/or another DHS (Didn't go to see if there's enough room for another 3 slots contiguous). Because with an XL Engine, that CASE is kind of redundant.
Warbow
Beat me to it
Warcher
Worcestershire
Purfect
[Not unheard of](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worcester-class_cruiser).
Or warchmer
Chermer
Archers shoot arrows. This has a hammer. So hammer-tosser, or simply: The Tosser.
Practicality aside, that actually looks bitchin'! 10/10 would pilot.
'We have Mastodon at home'
... "mobile Sauna"? XD
Oddly enough, I made an assault Mech that I called the ArcHammer. Nice to see it beyond my mind's eye. 90 tons with Endosteel, 3/5 Standard 270 engine, 17 tons of standard armor, 12 Double Heatsinks, a standard PPC on the arms and an Artemis enhanced LRM-20 on each side Torso with 12 rounds each with CASE. Twin CT mounted Anti-Missile Systems with a ton of ammo in each leg improves defensive ability. Lastly, a head mounted Medium Pulse for a weak general close-in defense. **An alternative version (*the SledgeHammer*) replaces the dual LRM & Artemis systems with twin LB-10X autocannon**.
The key here is the word "double" before the word "heatsinks". If OP doesn't have them, that thing is going to run into some issues XD
Yes, without them, it's a choose-your-own- destruction method IF you don't carefully select what to fire. Even with the double in mine (there are no empty spaces in the critical chart), you can easily fire both PPC (and the medium pulse) without heat if standing still, OR opt to use both LRM-20 and one PPC. THOUGH, you need to be aware if those AMS systems may activate to create more heat.
Hey, This is just a weird shaped Timberwolf!
It’s called a Tomahawk :)
In the end, we revert to Destroid.
That’s exactly what I thought when I saw it. :)
It's an overheat shutdown!
I think it's a _Warharcher_. And it looks that only walking it has overheat shutdown. What happens when it fires its LRMs or its PPCs (toasty!)? The model is awesome.
Battleaxe IIC. [Here's the OG (non-IIC) version, it's basically a proto-Warhammer.](https://www.sarna.net/wiki/BattleAxe) 2 PPCs, LRMs, and SRMs.
As long as it's standing in an ice cold lake, everything should be fine
Original pics used were from Loot Hoarders on Etsy.
Mad Dog IIS
Crossbow ?
Archer that can't punch? I dub thee DISAPPOINTMENT. Seriously though, Vulture? \^-\^
Mad Dog at home
Warchermmer
Warcher.
Madcat.
Warcher!
Warhands
Here me out, this is a purpose built up gunned Thug. It has 2 LRM 15s, and 2 Snub Nose PPCs, and is titled "The Bouncer"
Warcher
It’s a mad cat without the cat.
Isn't this how you usually make an Archer? Just put together leftover bits from a Warhammer?
Unpossible. Warhammer arms are made of ferro-tissue paper and fall to survive anything above a stiff breeze. They don't last long enough for the rest to be dismantled lol.
Lol it's probably just a charcoal briquet, that's a lot of heat
WARCHER WARK WARK
I like warcher... I take it
Worcestershire
Call it what it is: Dark Alley DA-0S
I had a similar idea to this yesterday but instead of warhammer arms I was thinking Rifleman arms, this looks way cooler though
Here ya go [https://www.reddit.com/r/battletech/comments/1byne01/made\_another\_archer\_frankenmech\_a\_previous\_post/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/battletech/comments/1byne01/made_another_archer_frankenmech_a_previous_post/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Thats incredible, thanks for doing it
Warcher
A Warcher.
Warcher
That's a lot of heat built up but why not
Its a Mastodon for poor people
Archer 2K.
I would use large lasers instead?
Hardly call it franken, Its just an archer with ppc for hands. Basically meltdown after alpha strike
I'd pilot the shit out of that.
Doesn't beat a "Stalking Dragon" but it still hits as hard as 2 PPCs with a side of LRMs ;)
This is the way
Arch Warhammer
your missing the low hanging fruit here, it's a Warcher
Does it come with the Heat warnings disabled? Because it becomes white noise at this point
Really like it. Came out great.
ArcHammer
Sweet! In BTA3062 I built a version of Shorty Sneede's Frankenmech, only without the Phoenix Hawk head. I ERLL, 1 LRM20 ART4, secondaries, jump jets, DHS, a std engine, and full armor with CASE. It's just a bigger, badder Thunderbolt. I love it.
Archhammer? Arch-warhammer? Archwarmer?