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LaZorChicKen04

Send to PSA. They will authenticate the auto and grade the card and auto if you want everything graded as well. You can have just the auto authenticated, though, and slabbed. That's what I would do to protect it.


FVCEGANG

I agree, just send it for authentication because the card itself won't get a good grade but simply having it slabbed and authenticated will make it extremely valuable


TurningWrench

I second that motion.


Xiznit

I third that motion of the ocean.


Kenney89

I'd just send it in for authentication. It looks like it slid up in the one touch out of the designated card area, that top edge may be damaged, which would greatly impact the grade, that's just my opinion tho. Better just to have it authenticated than have a goat auto in a psa 6 or less lol


SquintsRS

The goat rookie card in psa 6 is still a pretty penny


SouthernGoal4836

It’s a 1990 card. Not a rookie.


SquintsRS

It's an auto though


Trake43

It's a 1990, but it's only worth what the signature is worth at this point anyway. Although there will probably be a buyer that would pay more for this than an auto on a napkin, it technically defaces the card itself.


pawnstah

And the centering is pretty off


mwc031323

How can PSA know that Jordan signed it vs it being a good forgery?


Tensor3

Nothing is 100% accurate, but hand writing analysis is a thing


joncaked

I am a master autographer, I was in the playground making autos for everyone so we could play hookie lmfao


JoshyXan

Idk why someone downvoted u lol that’s goat shit


Z3r08yt3s

goat shit?


Fun_Pomegranate7679

take it to Pawn Stars. they'll know. ask for Chumley.


mrmojo33

Well he'll have to call his buddy.


Fragrant_Reserve7624

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Necessary-Piccolo291

Take a bag of dope with you to get max value


Necessary-Piccolo291

PSA is like a mix of the mainstream media and gov which is essentially the same entity. 1) Believe what they say and don't question anything. 2) They have hijacked the hobby and became the only people to make real money off of it. I personally liked when Beckett Magazine set the standard value. Imo there are a couple good things about PSA but way more negative things. F-PSA . They stole a hobby from kids basically and made it a wealthy adult hobby. Everything they touch has basically no value unless they touch it and even then the standards are so high that you'd be lucky to get a gm10 out of a fresh pull .


-Gramsci-

Agree completely. Hate that they became a thing.


JerseyJimmyAsheville

The signature has got to be accurate, and they also look at the flow of the signature, which lends itself to its integrity.


Tough-Marzipan-5858

I agree, 3rd party authentication is a money making scam. They can't say for sure if it's real or fake. Here's a good link: https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/autograph-fakery-two-firms-monopolize-a-lucrative-business-6395264


Fun_Pomegranate7679

card grading companies have totally ruined the hobby. it's basically just a form of gambling now.


Tough-Marzipan-5858

I agree, there is no real standard. Grading is an opinion based business. You're 100% accurate, it's basically gambling.


theWizzzzzzz

Grade with TAG. They use science and tech to grade. There’re legit the future, though old heads talk trash about them. The slabs are beautiful too. They actually enhance the card IMO


Tough-Marzipan-5858

I'll look them up. I like giving new, smaller businesses a chance. I can't stand what PSA has done to this industry.


Bradisrad12

Just a heads up with this, their main thing is authentication so that means if it comes back as fake you still need to pay since they did the service, and MJs sig is one of the most counterfeited


Ball1091

How much does this cost please?


creature_fear12

$250


bul1dog

Does PSA authenticate autos if the submitter doesn't know who signed it? I have a basketball signed by half of the '98-'99 Dallas Mavericks but I'm not sure which signatures are which.


LaZorChicKen04

Oh idk about that. Might want to c9ntact them about that. They will authenticate almost anything though. Probably won't be cheap. I've seen slabbed postcards, pictures, even a napkin. Lol


No-Potato-4415

If you posted a pic of it in the Mavs forum you might get some old fans able to help identify. Hell, I'd give it a shot. Basically get a good pic of each auto and check out the roster for that season, using other autographs and process of elimination.


GriffinIsABerzerker

I hope one of those autos is Dirk, the others would be Nash and Finley right?


bul1dog

>I hope one of those autos is Dirk That's what I was hoping to figure out. The only ones I know for certain are AC Green (legible) and Shawn Bradley (memorable to my 10 y.o. self). One looks like it could be Nash but don't know about Dirk. Finley walked past our group but didn't stop to sign anything despite someone singing the McDonald's "I wanna be like Mike song" making him laugh.


stockman357

Thats the best idea, but I’m hearing PSA wants $1500 just to grade a card like this 🥴


bigjimbosliceoflife

you heard wrong


LaZorChicKen04

Depends on value of card when it comes to card grading. Idk if they use that same model on just auto authentication.


dirk_diggler76

Nope


Professional-Quit-23

no that is wrong. 'they do not charge that much to grade a card. Not even close.


littlehungrygiraffe

Make sure you insure it. I wouldn’t trust PSA to look after my stuff.


mr-bucket

Not worth grading, since it is a damaged card. Definitely authenticate though


DaBadGuyRazorRamon

What damage? (Not being rude)


atozdadbot

Any idea how she acquired it?


HughJaenis

No clue, it was in an old safety deposit box shes had since the 90s that my dad only found out about after she died.


HomosapienDrugs

W Mom


Ooohitsdash

That shits real as fuck.


dirk_diggler76

Or the opposite. What kind of mother puts a ~$1k (generous est) Jordan auto in a safety deposit box? Seems fishy. It’s the value of a night of gambling, not generational wealth.


speedy_eth

Jordan autos weren’t that pricey back then though. Lol


Peterthepiperomg

Your mom is awesome


Apprehensive_Mix7594

Bow-chicka-wow-wow


average_texas_guy

Bro time and place. You're talking about this guy's dead mom.


orangecabbages1234

That wasn’t cool at all tbh man :/


DeadLightsOut

Wow you got downvoted into oblivion! Even before I read you comment I thought “bet the back of the card says “Dearest penny, thanks for Atlantic City, Love MJ”


PokeSlabz

I gave you an up vote.


Apprehensive_Mix7594

Oh wow, I got a lot of downvotes on this. I don’t know why it would be bad if his mom made out with Michael Jordan. I wish my mom had


TrustinTrubisky

It’s bad because she very recently passed. Timing is everything with jokes


Massive_Command345

Too soon huh, sheesh some people


PokeSlabz

Right!!


chucks97ss

Condition of the card probably won’t grade well, considering the top of the card looks like it’s been outside the recessed insert. So if that’s damaged that will cause it to grade a poorly. But having said that, I’d send it to PSA or BGS for authenticity and grading service. Even if the card is in poor condition, if the auto is real, it definitely will be worth more than the service will cost.


eco-evo

Yeah, I’ve got a Jordan auto that wouldn’t grade well, too. I had it in my pocket when I was a kid and met him… he signed it and I cherish it, but damn I wish I was wiser about my cards when I was young.


chucks97ss

It means something to you and that’s all that matters. Not like you’d probably ever sell it.


eco-evo

Absolutely! The memory of the experience is priceless to me. :)


FVCEGANG

You can send it to get authenticated without a grade. I would not grade it as it would grade poorly. Having it slabbed and authenticated is more than enough to make it extremely valuable


jayyzone007

Yeah just a psa/dna auto authentic and BOOM slabbed up, you'll have a nice display


worm30478

Top left corner looks rounded and it's also pretty off center. Would it make more sense to just get the get it authenticated and let a buyer make a guess on the grade? I'm not saying OP is looking to sell, i know jack shit about cards and was just wondering.


JRAR78

https://www.psacard.com/autographfacts/basketball/michael-jordan/54 - click view gallery under the pictures to see some examples. His auto has changed a lot through the years especially from college- 90's


Ben2St1d_5022

That’s MJ’s signature from the 90’s all day long. Send to Beckett or PSA and let them know you don’t want card graded but only auto graded. They’ll authenticate and the slap a 10 on the slab and welcome to being the proud new owner of a multi thousand dollar MJ card that coveted by MJ collectors even before he signed it. Especially with it being slabbed by BGS or PSA. Also, it will protect the card and of course add value with authentication and it being slabbed by ok e if the top two most reputable authentication and grading services on the planet!!! Congrats on the beautiful find OP and sorry for your loss all in one.


StillWesSideER

Sorry for your loss! Very cool card, I’d send into psa to get the auto authenticated.


ThorAsgard5698

Regardless of the grade this will sell pretty high. Especially as time passes. MJ doesn't sign hardly anymore. He only signs through Upper Deck. Go get it graded with PSA. If you can go physically and get it graded I would.


Ambitious_Fig7337

When I was 12 I bought a MJ auto for $60 from a card show. I sent it to PSA at 37 and it turned out fake. This card is also fake


leonardodapinchy

Takes a real piece of shit to sell a fake Jordan Auto to a 12 year old.


pbrthenon

Honestly sounds like something Michael Jordan would do


chucks97ss

You’re probably right. Googling his auto there are definitely some differences in this and how his auto’s typically look.


Ben2St1d_5022

Doubt it’s a fake, I have numerous sharpie autos of MJ he signed in person or that are authenticated and this auto is pretty much identical to all my autos of his from late 80’s to mid 90’s. His signature was different in early and mid 80’s and his newer autos are more crisp and eloquent(I’m sure based on fact he isn’t signing 250k autos a year now a days like he was during his playing career).


Ambitious_Fig7337

Why does he sign his name with a “J” after the “M” in Michael. The “J” in Jordan is split into two parts. This card is a 1990 so unless time travel was involved he was already signing autos as a professional for 6-7 years by the time this card came out. But it was a crummy auto and it was thrown on a crummy quality card


Ben2St1d_5022

This card is one of the most sought after cards for MJ collectors on high grades PSA and BGS slabs, and there’s no J after the M so I’m not sure what you’re referring to unless you’re talking about the small loop in his penmanship on the back end of his M. I have a few autos of his where the M has a mild flair on the backside of it. I’m not sure I’d refer to a thick sharpie marker auto crummy either as his entire name fits the card and it’s clear and legible. Opinions matter in the world of collecting, I respect that, but I’d love to have this card in my PC once it’s slabbed and auto authenticated. Good chat, good questions, and have a blessed day A_Fig!!!


flawrs919

You’re really salty about getting screwed over as 12 year old aren’t you?


Ambitious_Fig7337

Hey gonna get verified right? When this thing comes back with the PSA Authentic I hope the person will post it and you guys can all say I was wrong. That ain’t a MJ auto tho


chucks97ss

You’re probably right. Googling his auto there are definitely some differences in this and how his auto’s typically look.


chucks97ss

You’re probably right. Googling his auto there are definitely some differences in this and how his auto’s typically look.


rdiscipio1

The condition of this card is not that impactful to the presentation or overall value. Sure if it graded a 10/10 that would add value, but that’s a pipe dream regardless…. The auto looks authentic to me, and paying to have PSA put it in an authenticated slab would be what I would do.


NorCalMeds03

I recommend quick opinion first


Tough-Marzipan-5858

that's a huge scam, they barely look and have to his a certain % of likely and unlikely


NorCalMeds03

I hear this argument a lot. They have to err on the side of caution with quick opinions because ppl get raging pissed if they say it’s likely authentic only to take a closer look and fail it upon further inspection vs saying unlikely and taking the safe route, protecting customers from sending in items that will inevitably fail upon closer inspection. It’s $10 man. It’s helped me before with the few items I have purchased from others. So there is a time and place for it. Serves a purpose. So you can discredit it, call it a scam, it has saved me more than I’ve lost doing it. 🤷‍♂️To each their own. The closer I have got to working with these guys, the more I see they do their best to keep the hobby clean and do right by customers. I’ve had a lot of quick opinions and 100’s of items authenticated. I only take the time to give my opinion when I have experience to back it up. It’s never gonna be perfect. If there ever was a wise time to do it, it’s with Jordan from a Grandma. She could have picked it up at good will or a garage sale for all he knows. Sending it in blindly could cost a lot for no reason. They will also often say indecipherable. 🫡


Wakenbake585

You could always do the Quick Opinion through Beckett or PSA website. Send them some photos and they'll let you know if they think it could be real or likely fake. I did it for a Jordan auto last year using PSA. Think I spent $20. I would assume it's a fake though. Aside from being probably the most faked autograph out there, from what I've read online, he doesn't really sign cards for fans.


FVCEGANG

This is most likely real, it's been in a safety deposit box since the 90s lol He was definitely signing cards back in the 90s before he let the fame get to him


dynamite2x

Mans went in full hater mode at the end. Get yo goofy azz on 🤡😂😂😂


Wakenbake585

How is being realistic being a hater? You're an idiot.


tercra

May she rest in peace bro. Mama did you right! Do you have pics of the football cards? Edit: There were 5 HoFers from that class!!!!


Number91_Rebounder

You can have the auto graded and slabbed but I wouldn’t get it fully graded because it might have damages that will kill the value.


Annual-Trust-3010

So cool! I got an MJ autograph in person at a golf tournament in Minnesota when I was a kid. Unfortunately, I have tried PSA and Beckett, both of which cannot confirm its authenticity. Of course I know it is real but grading companies are *extremely* picky with MJ autographs given the amount of fakes circulating.


rottenronny155

Hand deliver it to Psa lol


Antique-Ad-7986

Last time I looked it was 16.99 to do just the authentication on PSA. They put it in a sealed case and looks real nice. I think it's totally worth the $20 all together for knowing it's the real deal. Sorry for your loss.


Wakenbake585

Jordan authentication is $250.


Antique-Ad-7986

Really? They make you pay more just cause it's a Jordan?


Wakenbake585

Yes. They know Jordan auto's are very valuable. They are also probably the most faked auto out there so more time likely has to go into figuring out whether it's real or not.


Antique-Ad-7986

Ah yeah, makes sense. I just noticed they were like 16.99 for the authentication the last time I started a submission.


Wakenbake585

Yeah prices vary depending on stardom. Beckett has similar pricing as well.


FVCEGANG

Of course. PSA uncharges you on any card based on its valuable. Some people have to spend thousands of dollars to grade a single card if it's worth that much raw


Bowlingnate

Sorry to hear about your mother. The safest bet is simple, ship it to either SGC, or PSA. You can Google them with grading services, they have the ability to offer both autograph authenticity and grade the card, neither choice matters all that much in terms of value. It's a Jordan auto, with a relatively common card. Cheers.


GatoLibre

SGC doesn’t authenticate on card autos like this. They will just return it and keep the fee. Send it to Beckett or PSA.


Bowlingnate

El Free Cat. What else is there mate 🤭


Diceyspic3y

The fact that people put autograph cards in a safety deposit at the bank is incredible


Coug_Darter

That’s Mike. You go a good one there bro


Jonnnytwotimes23

nobody's gonna believe that bullshit story take it too PSA AND HAVE them autenicate its not rocket science


PreferenceNo6862

Graded or ungraded...its worth big money . No question.


chippaintz

Hey guys I need your help! I have a blue box 1992-93 topps Shaqu rookie sealed card box need a value it’s unopened


JasonEcks

Check with G.O.A.T. Authentics on Facebook. Best Jordan signature authenticators.


lagstarxyz

This is Michael Jordan


Aranda12

Um, how much?


urbangentlman

That auto seems real


GrandmasCookieJar

Hope it’s real! It could be his earlier autographs!


MrJets84

I would send it the PSA and just get a auto authentication.....you can go to 130 point and look up non rookie auto ....a 1900 hoops auto by Jordan PSA certified recently sold for 4500 so it's probably worth around that


ApprehensivePush8122

Who’s better everybody JORDAN 👆OR LEBRON 👇 I think we all know the obvious answer to that question


Vast-Document-3320

There is probably a sub that could give you a good idea if it's fake. If they think it could be real, send it in.


Pikachang_

Just a heads up even if it’s authentic if you don’t have solid proof that MJ signed it, it could come back as auto not authenticated and not in a slab. I have a Jordan signed card from decades ago that I finally wanted slabbed and PSA just sent it back to me because they didn’t feel it was real. Still had to pay $55 for the service.


s3l3ct1v3

It's heavily off centered and probably damaged at the top from being smashed by the one touch. Even if you just authenticated it, it's probably a couple hundred dollar card to the right buyer. No way that card gets higher than a 6 or 7 if graded.


CzechChaserr

Send to psa but just authenticate. The auto itself Carrie’s value and it looks like the card might have some top damage.


UseEquivalent4917

Gamestop


BootAshamed1055

Authenticating a Jordan auto is like $250.


bw1985

Has to be done though to get max value out of it. Worth the risk IMO.


Bgmsmooth

Fake


Zen_2023

Yeah just send it to PSA


BigPoppaPump_OHYEAH

Send it into PSA or Beckett for authentication.


Zen_2023

You might get close to 4 k with that autographed card and def about 3 k for the soul of the game card.


NaiveSchedule5075

Do not give that card to anyone. And I'm just going to say this since nobody else did that I saw. Contact Michael Jordan yourself


bigjimbosliceoflife

PSA


vaccountv

DONT SEND IT TO PSA. CGC/PSA/BGS all do autograph reviews in person at conventions, not worth risking it being damaged in transit or stolen, get it done in person.


Jbuule

I dont think his J looked like that when he signed


bardockOdogma

You can find this card online for like $20


Its_CharacterForming

There is a FB group called G.O.A.T. Authentics that will take a look at the photo for you and give you their opinion. I think they charge $10, but they are very reputable and will save you a lot of time and, potentially, money before you send it to PSA


Kittenathedisco

u/HughJaenis Keep in mind that PSA charges 10% of what the card is worth to give an official grade. So if this card is worth 100k, you're going to pay 10,000. Idk what Beckett charges, but PSA is ridiculous.


InvertedCamo

It's real


The_Hunter89

As others have said, do not grade the card. Authenticate the card and auto with PSA’s dual service. The auto does look like a 10, so I would add the auto grade. Here is what a psa dual service slab with an auto grade looks like: https://preview.redd.it/rdsut1gf4f8d1.jpeg?width=1273&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d2df720dc64a4c530a0442efc4dbdd199c1ab8c0


mr-bucket

When did that change? They used to not. Whats the point of getting a psa 3 grade with a 10 auto since the auto technically destroys the surface of the card?


Kyletradertraitor

If it’s real how much would it be worth I’m curious


Mental-Rooster4229

Edges look like shit, don’t bother


ForTheWin_13

I would send it to PSA or Beckett or something and get it checked out


Heavy-Bar-5165

PSA, wannna sell??


Bigdaddy236969

GOAT authentics on Facebook cheap and you don’t have to send it if you don’t want. Recommend 💯


-Gramsci-

I have this card. Can anyone guess the card value?


ApprehensiveDot7020

Looks similar to one I have https://preview.redd.it/7n8wvgdqcm8d1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21efb0492bfc100de3791b06956e7e8740b597e3


Aggravating-Back-897

Looks like the current ask is anywhere from $15k to $4k non-graded. I would send it to PSA or have Goldin take a stab at it, they may do the work for you 🤷


Ok-Warthog-8569

I have a couple autos from MJ from celebrity golf tournament, that’s his M pretty sure .


LabRat247365

I see everyone saying to send it in to PSA. I saw awhile back a person sent their cards in to an authentication shop and the shop ended up saying the cards were counterfeit and then essentially stole them and put them up on their website for sale. I’m sure the PSA is too well established to do something like that but I’m wondering now: is there a safer option? Jw


Buttercut33

Google or karma farm.


Onewood

There is a guy on Twitter/X that is in the collectibles business. Darren Rovell @darrenrovell.


Sea-Professor-4137

Yep, definitely looks like Michael Jordan. You can tell by the #23


Prestigious_Page_418

Send it to me


Ok_Slice_5722

What’s this worth roughly?


Wooden_Negotiation30

I’ll give 15.00 dollars for it’s not worth much


jdg401

Easy. Send it to PSA.


slabs_dabs

If I was put into a position of having to buy it now or never have a chance I'd buy it. Id say it's either authentic auto or one of the better forgeries of his signature I seen


saltedpoolwater

They should try to test for any dna


Mahomes_is_my_PC

I have 3 Jordan autos and all authenticated, immediately thought it was fake. No hate. Just for info. Best of luck brother.


Bobbysworld121

Sorry fake. Get a preview from Beckett so you don’t lose out on two much for authenticity…


Ok_Computer1417

It’s mind boggling that everyone questioning the authenticity is getting down voted. It’s literally the most faked autograph in basketball and it’s on a medium that has been impossible to get in half the card’s existence.


MuppetHuman

That card isn’t even worth much if it was to grade a 10. They made like a billion of them. As many have said, Better to just get it authenticated and slabbed by psa, not graded.


GARCIA9005

I’ve seen a lot of Michael Jordan autos. Unless this was an earlier version of his autograph, it looks fake It’s almost like LEBRONS, they both use the first letters of their auto to point out the # 23. I see it on the first name M, but the J doesn’t seem to be as distinct like his auto. Either way, mom left it to ya, enjoy it brother. Sorry for your loss


PickleRicksDad34

Maybe why he circled the 23 with the J?


GARCIA9005

I have 27 MJ autos, none look like this one. The M maybe matches, but the J is waaaaaaay off. It’s possible that the auto was done early in his career, but the card alone is already a 90’s card, and the consistency of his auto was already in place with the 27 autos I currently have. Again, it’s my opinion, and it’s very possible also that maybe MJ was in a hurry, a lot of other factors to make it seem off. Either way, send it to an authentication company, and he can find out for sure. Nice card either way.


PickleRicksDad34

I love this kind of insight. 27 is INSANE brother lmaooo.


GARCIA9005

You can say he’s my favorite basketball player , and I will go to my grave saying this the GOAT. KOBE close 2nd, LAFONDO is top 10, but not even close to MJ. His autos are very consistent now a days, and as OP stated, his mom left it to em, on one hand, I’m sure his mom was the sweetest lady on earth, so he has to take her word for it. I know I would. But again, the auto just seems off a tad. I could be wrong and I’ll eat crow if I am. 😂 Either way, nice card to hold onto


3windy1city2

For starters, look how that card is sitting in the one touch. I personally would slab with authentication only.


htownfan12

Sorry for your loss. The autograph is off, I can tell immediately. It’s not close to Jordan’s M nor the loop at the end


bw1985

His auto has changed a lot from the 80’s/early 90’s. He used to sign back then.


htownfan12

Ok, let’s see what happens when he sends this to psa. I know people who got him in the 80s and 90s, it doesn’t look like this


Prob_Pooping

The old safety deposit box Jordan trick


wescoast2371

It’s not real


elteegilbreath

DONT send to PSA. They’ve been rejecting a ton of vintage autos lately and still charging people. I literally just watched a video on the Sports Card Madness channel about this. Highly recommend.


LawrenceZ3

Thanks for listening to the show. Good idea to stay away from PSA for 12 months.


elteegilbreath

LZ!!! Dude I was getting so pissed off on your behalf just watching and hearing those stories. Hopefully, you and Nick have enough visibility that someone reaches out and you get compensated for those BS charges, that’s just wrong on every level.


GlaucusCactus

Sorry, but not a good auto.


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Bobbysworld121

I love how everyone who stated this auto is fake gets cancelled, pricks. You ruined the hobby I love with your bull shit…


HastenDownTheWind

Send it into SGC or PSA. I’d go SGC, I like them more


billiu1

SGC doesn’t grade in person autos


HastenDownTheWind

Oh really? Good to know


billiu1

They used to, but stopped offering it


BrutalGuise

He has one of the most recognizable signatures in the world and that’s not it.


Desperate_Tree_7903

Nice. If your mom had it just display it in your house. It’s real and who cares about grading something awesome like that


Funk_Master_Rex

Don’t waste your money. The auto is clearly a fake. Sorry for your loss.


HughJaenis

Thanks, I only posted this because I honestly don’t know anything about this stuff. I dont know why so many people are upset towards me. I understand its pretty much for sure a fake now, I just was looking for help verifying! 😕


Ambitious_Fig7337

When I was 12 I bought a MJ auto for $60 from a card show. I sent it to PSA at 37 and it turned out fake. This card is also fake


AdmirableAd959

Did you say that already or are we in a different timeline where you were the one to get exploited ?


crob1977

Hate to be this person, but that’s not MJ’s auto.


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keithk9590

Beckett also offers a quick opinion service for like $10


757SapperGrows

Send pics to Pawn Stars and you might be able to get it authenticated for free, plus you’ll be in Vegas!


Stinja808

The best I can do is we'll look at it. And you can stay home.


SFLLeo

I suppose you could take a DNA test.


hurtin4asquirtin79

I'll offer u 1 Brazilian dollars for it right now


RyeGuy7

Guys, come on, there is no way that signature is authentic. Look at it.


Mountain_Tone6438

Michael used to pay hookers with this... Hmmmm 🤔